Jonraid:
Prove and come with stats that Nigeria's entertainment industry is the biggest in the continent

Please, don't start this, you will lose.

naijalander:
Oga keep kwayet. You men whank to pictures of Tiwa Savage & Yemi Alade everyday. Liar.

That kind hourglass more like broomstick. Kenyan women are so skinny and featureless. Nigerian women are the finest black African women.

Nigeria economy=Nigeria gov revenues. You got funny theories. Gov bureaucracy should be less than 10% of your GDP. Nigeria economy is OIL. If it wasn't oil - your economy won't sway with oil prices. If like you claim oil was just 10% or less - of the economy - it would only shave 10% of gdp growth. For example - in Kenya tourist sector is now 1.6% - even when we had alshabaab killing our tourism - our economy still grew.

As for agri - first you data is questionable - you barely export anything -those are SOLID numbers we could use to argue - coz it hard to rig what get exported - and You IMPORT a lot of the food you claim to produce (RICE, CORN/MAIZE, WHEAT).

How can you produce tonnes of maize & rice - and still import so much? I mean nobody knows how you collect agriculture data of the tubers you produce - do you approximate based on land cultivated? or estimate based on the food or farmers markets?

In short if we disregard the figures your national stats office - and use VERIFIABLE numbers - exports and imports of food - you agricluture will be exposed for what it is - DEAD AS DODO.


If you agricluture is already 81B - that should be more than enough to feed the entire Africa continent. So 190M is just an excuse - you simply produce very little - and depend on oil proceeds to buy food. There is enough anecdotal evidence of your collapsed agricluture - and frantic effort by your gov to divest from oil to agricluture and stuff like that.

Ibrahimanis:

Nigeria went into recession because oil is where government get it's revenue not because it affects the GDP. Nigeria ranks first in Africa in agricultural output and sixth in the world. I have shown you how to calculate worth of sectors but you chose to ignore it. Nigeria imports agricultural products because even though we produce much, it's not enough to feed 190million people.

If you insist that Kenyan agric sector is bigger than Nigeria, then tell me how many metric tonnes of rice, beans, yam, cassava, Sesame seed, other agric stuffs does Kenya produce every year

genieluv:


Well, your opinions are highly false. I have posted my picture here before and I didn't have the features you posted. The first black African to win a miss world didn't have the features you posted. Who then does?

Once again, I'm telling you using the fact that a Nigerian woman won Miss World to claim Nigerian women are desired is just stupid. They don't even focus on beauty in that thing - see, a transgender woman is on course to win Miss Universe, does that make transgenders the most desired women on earth? Ethiopia has never won Miss world, can you honestly look me in the face and say Nigeria has more beautiful women than Ethiopia?

Those are not my opinions, those are the opinions of the average Kenyan man towards Nigeria women. Trust me, I'm not saying this for the sake of arguing.

***** I can remember we had a picture posting contest about ladies and body shapes between Kenya and Nigeria in the past and we even won.

I don't know which picture posting contest you're talking about and u don't know how you decide you won either but based on how you guys argue here I have an idea. forgiveness for example comes here with this skyscraper battle every other time and all the time we post him more skyscrapers from Nairobi than Lagos but everytime he claims victory.

Don't forget that Nigerian ladies come in different looks.
Yoruba women do not look like Hausa-fulani women on average while Igbo women do not look like Ijaw women on average.
The most famous Kenyan woman (Lupita) doesn't have a mesmerizing body figure. So I wonder how you guys arrive at your lame and baseless statistics.

Kenyan women don't come in the same shape either, that's common sense. But on average, Nigerian women have wide shoulders and wide faces.

Lupita has an awesome figure. Google her and Yemi Alade and compare, the only thing she lacks is boobies. Lupita isn't even desired for her shape here in Kenya, she's just average in that department. Google people like Sarah Hassan, Corazon Kwamboka, Huddah Monroe, Grace Msalame et al and see.

••••• Besides let us assume you are right. Why do Nigerian women still don't intermarry other West African men in spite of the fact that we and them look the same? Or can we go by your point and say other west African men also find Nigerian women to have wide faces unlike their women? When we all look the same?

Well, I can only speak for East Africans and specifically Kenyans. Maybe you can tell me why other West Africans don't want you. All I know, in Kenya,
1. When a man desires a woman who's more beautiful than the average Kenyan, he looks to Ethiopia and Eritrea.

2. When he wants a woman that's similar to a Kenyan in looks department but more submissive and less materialistic, he looks to Uganda and Tanzania.

3. When he's the lazy type who wants a woman to finance his lifestyle, he looks for an older white woman.

Generally, East African men have nothing to desire about a Nigerian woman

You can see that your point truly holds no water.

Nigerian women are not interested in other African men not just because of looks, but because of styles and attitudes. We tend to just see our men as the best when it comes to stylishness.

I can't speak for you but most East African men don't desire West African women either.......and considering it's the man that makes the move, I think this is more about lacking opportunity on the side of the Nigerian woman. I may be wrong though.

Below is a picture of Lupita Nyong'o who apparently according to you has no hourglass figure. Compare her to Alade or Tiwa Savage.

naijalander:
Oga keep kwayet. You men whank to pictures of Tiwa Savage & Yemi Alade everyday. Liar.

That's the most ridiculous statement you can say in Kenya.
This country has gems like Vera Sidika, Corazon Kwamboka, Sheila Mwanyigha, Grace Msalame, Victoria Rubadiri et al, why would any normal functioning Kenyan self-service on Tiwa and Alade? No offense, their music is good but wanking on their pictures? That's hilarious. Look at Victoria Kimani's ass and tell me why I would look at Alade or Tiwa's ass after looking at that.

does anyone have moyo lawal picks?

According to the pwc report on the continent's entertainment industry
SA was the largest in terms of revenue,followed by Nigeria and then Kenya

SA pulled 8 billion plus revenues, Nigeria's revenue was at 4.1 billion whilst Kenya's revenues stood at 2 billion

It just appears that Nigeria with all that large market of 197-200 million consumers can only pull figures twice more than Kenya who has a populace of about 46-50m

On revenue per capita,we beat Nigeria

Here is the link https://www.sde.co.ke/amp/pulse/article/2000216284/money-talk-kenyan-entertainment-industry-ranked-third-in-africa-with-over-sh-189-billion-revenue

Ibrahimanis:

gdp per capita (not GDP ALONE) is the international approved metric on how to calculate how wealthy a country, and Nigeria ranks above Kenya, though not by much

Remember 5 years ago your GDP per capita was three times ours, right now it's negligibly higher. What does that tell you?

rvp20183:
Nigeria economy=Nigeria gov revenues. You got funny theories. Gov bureaucracy should be less than 10% of your GDP. Nigeria economy is OIL. If it wasn't oil - your economy won't sway with oil prices. If like you claim oil was just 10% or less - of the economy - it would only shave 10% of gdp growth. For example - in Kenya tourist sector is now 1.6% - even when we had alshabaab killing our tourism - our economy still grew.

As for agri - first you data is questionable - you barely export anything -those are SOLID numbers we could use to argue - coz it hard to rig what get exported - and You IMPORT a lot of the food you claim to produce (RICE, CORN/MAIZE, WHEAT).

How can you produce tonnes of maize & rice - and still import so much? I mean nobody knows how you collect agriculture data of the tubers you produce - do you approximate based on land cultivated? or estimate based on the food or farmers markets?

In short if we disregard the figures your national stats office - and use VERIFIABLE numbers - exports and imports of food - you agricluture will be exposed for what it is - DEAD AS DODO.


If you agricluture is already 81B - that should be more than enough to feed the entire Africa continent. So 190M is just an excuse - you simply produce very little - and depend on oil proceeds to buy food. There is enough anecdotal evidence of your collapsed agricluture - and frantic effort by your gov to divest from oil to agricluture and stuff like that.

is it your business? We export what we have so you expect us to export yams and leave oil?

Dumb Kenyas

You'd think all the third-rate music and movies makes them giants. They don't. South Africa like in everything else has an advanced entertainment sector - with movies you can actually sit and watch - music you can listen to for hours and name it. Nigeria have the same copy-paste music & movies that are so third-rate they can only be enjoyed majority poor africans - with no dime to spend on entertainment.

Jonraid:
According to the pwc report on the continent's entertainment industry
SA was the largest in terms of revenue,followed by Nigeria and then Kenya

SA pulled 8 billion plus revenues, Nigeria's revenue was at 4.1 billion whilst Kenya's revenues stood at 2 billion

It just appears that Nigeria with all that large market of 197-200 million consumers can only pull figures twice more than Kenya who has a populace of about 46-50m

On revenue per capita,we beat Nigeria

Here is the link https://www.sde.co.ke/amp/pulse/article/2000216284/money-talk-kenyan-entertainment-industry-ranked-third-in-africa-with-over-sh-189-billion-revenue

I am looking for verifiable data of yams you produce. I distrust whatever Kemi Yale The Nigerian Stats General is spewing and for good reasons. That is all. So go slow on the aggression and use that to produce enough maize, rice and wheat for your own consumption.

Excaperx:
is it your business? We export what we have so you expect us to export yams and leave oil?
Dumb Kenyas

rvp20183:
I am looking for verifiable data of yams you produce. I distrust whatever Kemi Yale The Nigerian Stats General is spewing and for good reasons. That is all. So go slow on the aggression and use that to produce enough maize, rice and wheat for your own consumption.

Kenyas are so dumb

I also won't mind if you find verifiable emperical evidence of that allegation. Yes kenyans are dumber than South Africans or American but not Nigeria. First deal with malnutrition - where you're doing worse than kenya - which has a direct consequences on dumbness.

Excaperx:
Kenyas are so dumb

why do Kenyan names sound like someone is grinding something?lol

rvp20183:
Nigeria economy=Nigeria gov revenues.

I swear you don't know the first thing about economics. Oil account for almost 90pct of government revenue, when oil price crash, government have no money to spend, if for any reason today a government of ANY country should be denied 90pct of its revenue, that country will have a negative growth.

rvp20183:
I also won't mind if you find verifiable emperical evidence of that allegation.

evidences from your own people?

This is why Nigeria GDP is cooked. It just doesn't make sense. So how can an industry that contributes 8% of GDP contribute 90% of the gov revenues. You've got an aggresive FIRS and several S-IRS trying to desperately collect taxes.

How can whole economy (sector by sector) get into a recession when 8% of the sector is having trouble. Reading your GDP composition - it very similar to kenya - it appears diversified - but it's NOT RESILIENT. A diversified economy like kenya is very resilient because no one sector can bring it down. A primitive OIL based economy like Nigeria is just moving along with oil prices.

The reality is that OIL is Nigeria main sector of the economy. The rest are the lies of Yemi Kale your Gen Stats Officer.

Ibrahimanis:

I swear you don't know the first thing about economics. Oil account for almost 90pct of government revenue, when oil price crash, government have no money to spend, if for any reason today a government of ANY country should be denied 90pct of its revenue, that country will have a negative growth.

That is anecdotal. I asked for empirical. Go back to school. This time in Kenya.

Excaperx:
evidences from your own people?

Kenyans stop bothering yourselves.ur country is boring but richer than Nigeria.music is trash with one beat,lots if autotune and female rappers copy nicki Minaj but can't pull it off.movies might be good but how can we tell since they AREN'T IN ENGLISH.you basically make music and movies for yourselves only and yet you are surprised when no one cares about them outside east Africa.SPEAK ENGLISH IN YOUR SONGS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!

rvp20183:
Maybe you can show us one with qualified acceptance. Nigeria would be a perfect candidate. IMF offers technical assistance but how you use it is upto you.

Oil is you only true industry. That is why you catch recession when oil prices drop.

As for services sector - we have gone thro it sector to sector - and we have compared to kenya - at best your service industry is twice kenya - and at times even less than kenya. Our GDP is 90B dollars. Your's right now has come down to 350B or so...but in reality it should be about twice kenya plus OIL.

You must be kidding when you talk about Brazil GDP. Nigeria economy is simple. It export crude oil and import food & refined oil. It second or first importer of wheat, rice and name it.

I'll ignore your ignorance on brazil agri - you agri is not even at kenya or south africa level - maybe you do really good with yams, cassava and such tubers - but outside that - you are nothing.

Continue to fool yourself based on the bolded. We know Nigeria service sector is 3 - 4 times of that of Kenya after various sections under service proved with verifiable facts that it is so.

You can continue to live self denial.


$280b (Nigeria) Vs $91b (Kenya).

forgiveness:

Now that it has been proven Nigeria smashed Kenya times 5 in the Service sector of the economy, let me do the breakdown and calculate the amount it contributed to each countries GDP in 2017.


.... Sector............Nigeria...............Kenya.... Year(2017)

1. Telecommunications $8.5b.................$2.2b..


2. Financial services.

A (i) Banking industry assets $101b..... $39b

ii. Banking industry revenue ..$10b...........$1.2b

B (i) Insurance industry assets.$2.6b..............$5.7b

(ii) insurance industry (revenue). $1.6b....$2.2b


3. Retail sales $109b...........$28b

(ii) FMCG............$4.8b................$800m


4. E&M(+filmed) .... ........$11b.............$2b


5. Hospitality/Tourism.....$2.6b...........$926m

7. Professional services

(I) Accounting................$17b......... ?


8. Gambling.........$5.2b ...........$1.8b


Let me go straight to the point.

Of the $79.22b GDP of Kenya in 2017, the service sector contributed 45.38% while that of Nigeria was 55.8%.

Meaning, Kenya's service sector contributed $35.9b. However, since the revenue Nigeria's service sector generates is times 5 of Kenya's service sector, we will multiple it with the sum Kenya's service sector contributed to the GDP.


That is about $179.5b.

$280b (Nigeria) Vs $91b (Kenya) in service sector. This is for a country that has been politically stable since independent against a country just coming out from military rule.

really half of them make money from selling sex, what real value do they bring to your society.

Nigeria has the most forward thinking women on the continent. Number Feminist on earth - Chimamanda Adichie.

Tiwa we know is a successful award winning musician, Yemi Alade too.

Your comparing them to newscasters that are paid to wear make up to tell news they know nothing about, abeg shift.

Is beauty by a$$ alone?

NairobiWalker:


That's the most ridiculous statement you can say in Kenya.
This country has gems like Vera Sidika, Corazon Kwamboka, Sheila Mwanyigha, Grace Msalame, Victoria Rubadiri et al, why would any normal functioning Kenyan self-service on Tiwa and Alade? No offense, their music is good but wanking on their pictures? That's hilarious. Look at Victoria Kimani's ass and tell me why I would look at Alade or Tiwa's ass after looking at that.

Ibrahimanis:

How did you know non have been rejected, you think they will announce it if it were rejected?

Oil does not and have not influenced Nigerian GDP, contribution of oil to Nigerian GDP was and still is negligible. Banking, services, agriculture, Telecommunication, nollywood are the main contributors to Nigerian GDP in 2014, and they are still the major contributors today.

About Nigerian agricultural sector being bigger than that of brazil, it's not rocket science, Brazil with 2trillion economy has an agric sector 5.5pct, Nigeria with 400b economy has an agric sector 20.1pct, calculate 5.5pct of 2trillion for brazil and 20.1pct of 400b for Nigeria and you have your answer

AAAARRRRGGGHHH!! Nigga,we thoroughly destroyed those delusions months ago and enjoyed many many laughs. We can't go back there!

Jonraid:
Prove and come with stats that Nigeria's entertainment industry is the biggest in the continent

well according to quora and every other ranking website on earth Nigeria came tops 70percent,S.A. 20percent and Kenya third ten percent.satisfied?in fact I feel like listening to some good local nigerian music.I'm sure you can't relate,can you?

Well you're well known liar..so typical. We are still waiting for that building. As regard to services...Kenya is not 91B - that is the entire economy - it more like 55B - about 60% the economy is services - the agriculture, manufacturing, construction and minning - takes 40%.

Nigeria services sector - we went thro financial (2.5 times kenya), Insurance (kenya beat nigeria), tourism, hotels & accommodation (we beat you), entertainment & media (2 times kenya), advertising (we beat you), real estate & formal trading ( we beat you), informal trading (nobody has the figures , Gov services (we have about the same budget), social spending in education & etc (we beat you).

Actually looking at it again - it appears you service sector might be equal to Kenya or smaller despite the population disparity - it appears the rest of your economy is just tuber-growers in the south and cattle herders in the north

forgiveness:

You can continue to live self denial.


$280b (Nigeria) Vs $91b (Kenya).

rvp20183:
This is why Nigeria GDP is cooked. It just doesn't make sense. So how can an industry that contributes 8% of GDP contribute 90% of the gov revenues. You've got an aggresive FIRS and several S-IRS trying to desperately collect taxes.

How can whole economy (sector by sector) get into a recession when 8% of the sector is having trouble. Reading your GDP composition - it very similar to kenya - it appears diversified - but it's NOT RESILIENT. A diversified economy like kenya is very resilient because no one sector can bring it down. A primitive OIL based economy like Nigeria is just moving along with oil prices.

The reality is that OIL is Nigeria main sector of the economy. The rest are the lies of Yemi Kale your Gen Stats Officer.

Nollywood, telecommunication did not go into recession though, in fact 2016 is one of the most successful year for nollywood. And no firs became aggressive during and after the recession, before recession government does not pay much attention to revenue generating agencies like firs, customs e.t.c. they only paid attention to nnpc. Which is why some can steal billions of naira with ease. Now firs and customs are setting records for revenues collected.

That being said, I agree with you. Nigeria is vulnerable to oil prices.

NairobiWalker:


If you're so hardworking then why are you poor? Nigeria has the largest number of poor people in the world and a higher percentage of people living below the poverty line than Kenya. You can't boast of being hardworking and have nothing to show for it.

Nigerians are judged to be so poor by western statisticians who just cannot comprehend how people survive in rural northern Nigeria without spending cash.

*****Otherwise, Nigeria definitely has a far higher percentage (not just population) of the richest black Africans.

About spoiling women, maybe that's why you're poor. There's a thin line between treating your woman right a just being a fool.

Actually, the culture of spoiling women makes men richer. Let me tell you how.
In Nigeria, if you compare let's say, the Igbos and we middlebelters, the Igbos are far richer than us. This is because they have a very materialistic society which causes their men to work more harder and smarter.
***** In many parts of Igbo land, you must spend millions of Naira just to marry a wife (pay her brideprice). This culture drives many young Igbo guys to make serious money from an early age.

Like I told your brother Naijalander, you'll find 5 Nigerians here in Nairobi sharing a bedsitter (a bedsitter is a self contained one-room house - I don't know how you call it in Nigeria) yet the same fools will walk into a club and spend all their money on strange women they don't even know. You wonder, why can't these people use the few coins on affording a better life for themselves - like move in a better bigger house? There's nothing romantic about that, it's just foolishness that will eventually see you die a poor man. No Kenyan or South African man can entertain such nonsense.

Let me clear some things for you. Most Nigerians you see living such lives in Kenya may have big mansions and projects back in their hometowns. They even do such here in Nigeria sometimes.
Unless those guys are into internet fraud, then that is their way.
***** They may not be interested in living large in Kenya cos they know they are only there for the fraud and nothing else. They're not interested in establishing their lives there.
Fraudulent money keeps coming in, in the minds of those Nigerians, so they spend it stupidly.

Materialism is killing your society. Nothing to be proud of. I am afraid though it's finding it's way into Kenyan women but based on what you guys say about Nigerian women and the attitude I observe amongst Nigerians here, yours is worse.

Materialism is one of the reasons Southern Nigeria is far richer and more progressive than Northern Nigeria.
**** It is one of the reasons capitalist outcompete socialists and also one of the reasons Americans outcompete Europe.

It has pros and cons.

kikuyu1:


AAAARRRRGGGHHH!! Nigga,we thoroughly destroyed those delusions months ago and enjoyed many many laughs. We can't go back there!

Which delusions?

Your telecommunication services - that is just 8.5B dollars worth or less per annum - tops 10B dollars. Nollywood - like seriously - entertainment is now a sector you want hinge the economy on . I have heard it employ 1M people . Nigerian gots jokes.

The reality is yours is OIL dependant economy. Ignore Yemi Kale nonsense. If oil prices today come down to 20 dollars per barrel - you'll literally see blood..and nigeria gov will be overthrown..if it goes to 10 dollars a barrel...civil war will start.

You economy is OIL. The rest are nonsensical lies.

Ibrahimanis:

Nollywood, telecommunication did not go into recession though, in fact 2016 is one of the most successful year for nollywood. And no firs became aggressive during and after the recession, before recession government does not pay much attention to revenue generating agencies like firs, customs e.t.c. they only paid attention to nnpc. Which is why some can steal billions of naira with ease. Now firs and customs are setting records for revenues collected.

That being said, I agree with you. Nigeria is vulnerable to oil prices.

naijalander:
really half of them make money from selling sex, what real value do they bring to your society.

Some of them like Vera Sidika made money from sex - by fvcking your foolish Naija guys. She's now richer than them. Others like Rubadiri, Mwanyigha, Msalame are respectable media personalities. We However were not talking about how they made their money, we are talking about looks and so far, all of them are beautiful.

Nigeria has the most forward thinking women on the continent. Number Feminist on earth - Chimamanda Adichie.

So because a Nigerian feminist with some weird views said Nigerian women are the most forward thinking we should go on our knees and worship them? For the record, I consider feminism to be bullshit - you can now deduce the effect of quoting some feminist has to my views on the subject.

Tiwa we know is a successful award winning musician, Yemi Alade too.

Your comparing them to newscasters that are paid to wear make up to tell news they know nothing about, abeg shift.

Is beauty by a$$ alone?

Unfortunately, we are talking about beauty. Stop mixing issues, if you want us to talk about success the let's make it a different topic. Thank you.

kikuyu1:


AAAARRRRGGGHHH!! Nigga,we thoroughly destroyed those delusions months ago and enjoyed many many laughs. We can't go back there!

You are the most self deluded fella on this thread. Hope you are aware?

Very lame. Kenya has a large rural population than Nigeria. And so do many countries. Poverty is real in rural areas. Stop romanticizing cattle herding.

genieluv:

Nigerians are judged to be so poor by western statisticians who just cannot comprehend how people survive in rural northern Nigeria without spending cash.