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2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by mekaboy(op): 11:30am On Nov 24, 2018
Jonathan was voted out because:

He was corrupt, today corruption is higher.

Fuel was 96 and he wanted to remove subsidy to make the industry more competitive like telecoms. Today fuel is 145 plus more subsidy without approval.

Dollar was 156 and its 360 today.

Unemployment was high, today over 11 million have lost existing jobs adding to the new unemployed .

He could not end bokoharam because the North said an attack on them was an attack on the North. It has not ended today. They are even hiding news of bokoharam attacks to make Nigerians believe they are defeated.

The almajiri schools Gej built for the North have all been closed.


Today the rule of law is totally disregarded.

Spending without approval.

Millions are spent on healthcare abroad for the president and his son that goes about crashing power bikes.

Spending is done outside the budget.


It will be unfair if we voted out GEJ for a government that is worse than his . A government whose major achievements are those of Gejs administration.

On what basis will we allow an administration that has performed far less than that if goodluck Jonathan to continue in power if not for selfish interest?
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by mekaboy(op): 3:02pm On Nov 24, 2018
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by jidamsel43(m): 3:07pm On Nov 24, 2018
But Buhari has never said corruption is different from stealing
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by mekaboy(op): 3:29pm On Nov 24, 2018
jidamsel43:
But Buhari has never said corruption is different from stealing
Does it matter what he said? It's what is done that matters. Didn't he say abacha never stole? Are they not returning his loot to be relooted?

How come his administration is rated higher in corruption?

Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by mekaboy(op): 5:09pm On Nov 24, 2018
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by mekaboy(op): 5:32pm On Nov 24, 2018
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by mekaboy(op): 11:32am On Nov 28, 2018
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by mekaboy(op): 4:29pm On Nov 29, 2018

Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by Nobody:
This one is always posting rubbish threads.....we are marching to the next level....no going back

Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by mekaboy(op): 4:44pm On Nov 29, 2018
omoowo8888:
This one is always posting rubbish threads.....we are marching to the next level....no going back
That is to chad.
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by Nobody: 4:47pm On Nov 29, 2018
mekaboy:
That is to Nigeria
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by Nobody: 5:05pm On Nov 29, 2018
mekaboy:
[s]Jonathan was voted out because:

He was corrupt, today corruption is higher.

Fuel was 96 and he wanted to remove subsidy to make the industry more competitive like telecoms. Today fuel is 145 plus more subsidy without approval.

Dollar was 156 and its 360 today.

Unemployment was high, today over 11 million have lost existing jobs adding to the new unemployed .

He could not end bokoharam because the North said an attack on them was an attack on the North. It has not ended today. They are even hiding news of bokoharam attacks to make Nigerians believe they are defeated.

The almajiri schools Gej built for the North have all been closed.


Today the rule of law is totally disregarded.

Spending without approval.

Millions are spent on healthcare abroad for the president and his son that goes about crashing power bikes.

Spending is done outside the budget.


It will be unfair if we voted out GEJ for a government that is worse than his . A government whose major achievements are those of Gejs administration.

On what basis will we allow an administration that has performed far less than that if goodluck Jonathan to continue in power if not for selfish interest?[/s]
Trash as usual.....not surprised
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by Nobody: 5:07pm On Nov 29, 2018
mekaboy:
That is to chad.
Trash
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by mekaboy(op): 10:58am On Nov 30, 2018
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by mekaboy(op): 7:38am On Dec 14, 2018
All those who attacked GEJ for trying to remove subsidy, should bow their head in shame.



https://www.nairaland.com/4903042/until-fuel-subsidy-removed-fuel
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by trillville(m):
Mekaboy, there is no difference between Buhari and Jonathan. No one who understands Nigeria's problems would support and be against the other. These men see themselves as more special than people in their villages and believe it is okay for some people to be impoverished. These men are happy that they got an education, escaped poverty, and believe God has favoured them in life. If indeed there is hellfire, such leaders would spend their eternity acknowledging their failures to better the lives of their people. HELL FIRE is their only destination.
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by mekaboy(op): 11:22am On Dec 14, 2018
trillville:
Mekaboy, there is no difference between Buhari and Jonathan. No person with an understanding of Nigeria's problems would support one and be against the other. These men see themselves as more special than people in their villages and believe that it is okay for some people to be extremely poor. These men are happy that they got education and escaped poverty and believe God has favoured them in life. If truly there is hell fire, such leaders would spend their eternity acknowledging their failures to better the lives of their people. HELL FIRE is their only destination.
I beg to differ. GEJ had a systematic approach to the challenges of this Nation.

Unbundled the power sector.

Introduced BVN and biometric verification of civil servants weeding out ghost workers.

If subsidy was removed today we competition would have brought down the price of fuel like telecoms.

Built almajiri schools to tackle terrorism in the North.

What has buhari introduced? Trader money vote buying after 4 years?
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by trillville(m):
mekaboy:
I beg to differ. GEJ had a systematic approach to the challenges faced by this nation.

Unbundled the power sector.

Introduced BVN and biometric verification of civil servants, weeding out ghost workers.

If subsidies were removed today, competition would have brought down the fuel price, just as telecoms do.

Built almajiri schools to tackle terrorism in the North.

What has Buhari introduced? Trader money vote buying after 4 years?
Even with all the measures taken, poverty continued to increase in Nigeria. As far back as 2010, Steve Oronsaye suggested that the government merge agencies to reduce the high cost of governance. Throughout his tenure, recurrent expenditures on civil servants took over 80 per cent of the government's revenues from oil. No sensible leader would spend 80 per cent on less than 10 per cent of his population. This is the crisis Nigeria faces.

Your comment on fuel subsidies is also flawed. Telecommunication services are not commodities and are priced based on the cost of equipment, maintenance, and factors of demand and supply within a country's boundaries.

Oil and petroleum, on the other hand, are commodities that have one range of prices at any time across the world. Its price isn't affected by local demand and supply but by global demand and supply. In Nigeria, other vital factors are our exchange rate and the delivery cost in our ports since our refineries are not working. Whether Dangote refines crude oil in Nigeria or not, if the naira continues to get weak without subsidies, the price of petrol will continue to rise.

Who's fault is it that our currency is messed up? This should be your main question. Has any government invested in improving the productivity of Nigerians? You mention Almajeri schools. Is it not a shame that a school should be called Almajeri School? How many government schools did Gej build? How many hospitals did he build? What is the ratio of teachers to students in our public schools? Please, all these older men are failures. The quicker we realise this, the faster Nigeria will move forward.
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by mekaboy(op): 1:41pm On Dec 14, 2018
trillville:
Even with all the measures gej took, poverty kept increasing in Nigeria. As far back as 2010, Steve Oronsaye suggested that government merge agencies to reduce the high cost of governance. Through out gejs tenure recurrent expenditures on civil servants took over 80 percent of government's revenues from oil. No sensible leader would spend 80 percent on less than 10 percent of his population. This is the crisis Nigeria faces.

Your comment on fuel subsidies is also flawed. The telecommunication services are not commodities and are priced based on cost of equipment, maintenance and factors of demand and supply within the boundaries of a country.

Oil and petroleum on the other hand is a commodity and has 1 range of prices at anytime across the whole world. Its local price isn't affected by local demand and supply but by global demand and supply. In Nigeria, other important factors are our exchange rate and the cost of delivery in our ports since our refineries are not working. Whether Dangote refines crude oil in Nigeria, if the naira continues to get weak, without subsidies, the price of petrol will continue to rise.

Who's fault is it that our currency is messed up. This should be your main question. Has any government really invested in improving the productivity of Nigerians? You mention Almajeri schools. Is it not a shame that a school should be called almajeri school. How many government schools did gej build. How many hospitals did he build. What is the ratio of teachers to students in our public schools. Please all these old men are failures. The quicker we realise this the faster Nigeria would move forward.
Let us not let hypocrisy blind our sense of judgement. We have an over bloated service, but GEJ introduced measures to reduce the ghost workers by biometric registration, saving the nation billions monthly.


As for subsidy, it it was removed the sector becomes demand driven. More people will build refineries, source crude and compete. Every business is driven by completion. Even if someone decides to import, they can source forex their own way without government interference. We have cases where CBN was giving forex to high profile Nigerians and they ended up selling to black market. Sanusi said how these men made billions via the forex window in seconds.

While manufacturers and petrol importers will cue up for months to be given little.

If there was no subsidy, are u telling me the someone who exported a product from Nigeria and was paid in foreign currency, and imported fuel with the payment will sell at the same price with someone that bought forex in the black market or even cbn ? Why hasn't this administration found any company to invest in the repair and building of refineries? You heard kachukwu say, that for the past 3 years they did not spend a dime on refineries and could not get investors to invest.

The sector would only be attractive when subsidy is removed.

As for telecoms, competition plays a role in prices. SIM card was 21k when mtn started, today it's 100. Was the cost of sim card production 21k then? But as competition grew, they discovered that it is more important to have people signed up to the network than scare them the price of sim card.


GTBank introduced 0 naira account opening when some banks were doing so with minimum of 10k. That was their competitive advantage and In no time other banks brought down the cost of opening an account to as.low as 1 k . So you can't say competition does not affect pricing.

If we are all importing and I am first to finish a production a refinery in Nigeria, I will sell cheaper than you. As both the crude and refinery are sourced locally.


Call it Almajiri school or whatever you like, the aim is to get the children begging off the streets. How many universities did GEJ build? How many has Buhari built?
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by trillville(m):
mekaboy:
Let us not let hypocrisy blind our sense of judgement. We have an overly bloated service, but GEJ introduced measures to reduce ghost workers through biometric registration, saving the nation billions monthly.


As for the subsidy, if it were removed, the sector would become demand-driven. More people will build refineries, source crude and compete. Every business is driven by completion. Even if someone decides to import, they can source forex without government interference. We have cases where the CBN gave forex to high-profile Nigerians, and they sold to the black market. Sanusi said that these men made billions in seconds via the forex window.

Meanwhile, manufacturers and petrol importers will queue up for months to be given little.

If there was no subsidy, are you telling me that someone who exported a product from Nigeria and was paid in foreign currency and imported fuel with the payment will sell at the same price as someone who bought forex in the black market or even CBN? Why hasn't this administration found any company to invest in the repair and building of refineries? You heard Kachukwu say that they have not spent a dime on refineries for the past three years and could not get investors to invest.

The sector would only be attractive when the subsidy is removed.

Competition plays a role in telecoms prices. When MTN started, a SIM card cost 21k; today, it's 100. Was the cost of SIM card production 21k then? However, as competition grew, they discovered that it was more important to have people sign up for the network than to scare them about the price of a SIM card.


GTBank introduced a 0 naira account opening when some banks were doing so with a minimum of 10k. That was their competitive advantage, and in no time, other banks brought down the cost of opening an account to as low as 1k. So, you can't say competition does not affect pricing.

If we are all importing and I am the first to finish producing a refinery in Nigeria, I will sell cheaper than you. Both the crude and the refinery are sourced locally.


Call it Almajiri school or whatever you like, the aim is to get the children begging off the streets. How many universities did GEJ build? How many has Buhari built?
This is an exciting conversation. Gej met an exchange rate of 120 naira and left it at 160 even though Nigeria was earning the most from oil sales. This was a significant issue between Gej and SLS.
Nigeria's problem is not the number of ghost workers but the number of honest government workers who consume 80 per cent of oil revenues without providing any service to the public. Leadership is not about making easy decisions but about making decisions that move your nation forward.

As children, the generation enjoyed quality primary education provided by the British. They have failed to pass on this little legacy to future generations. The education deficiency starts at the primary level and can be seen in every region of the country. All serious countries provide quality, free primary education. Only in developing nations like Nigeria is university education seen as a means to escape poverty. A person with a high school degree can live a decent life in all developed countries. Until Nigeria improves the quality of our high schools and the living standards of artisans, poverty will keep increasing.

Once more, the main cost component of petrol is crude oil. In economics, the prices of food and fuel are typically separated from the prices of other goods and services when calculating inflation because there are commodities that are generally priced based on global pricing.

Even if crude oil is sold in Nigeria to a Nigerian refinery, the price of crude would still be based on the international price of the commodity.

Any government serious about reducing the price of fuel will not only invest heavily in refineries to reduce the demand for dollars to purchase fuel, thereby strengthening the naira and stabilising the internal macroeconomy. As we have all witnessed, stabilstabilizingdies and stabilstabilizingaira have achieved nothing. Obasanjo removed the subsidy several times, yet fuel just kept going up. He gave licenses to several business people, but none chose to build refineries. The IOCs are here in Nigeria, extracting oil, but they do not have refineries. Suppose they are intelligent business people; why haven't they built refineries here? Or do they hate us? Why are Coca-Cola and 7Up producing soft drinks here?

Gej partially removed subsidies, and it led to nothing. Buhari removed subsidies, but today, we are faced with further subsidies because the price of crude oil and naira has not remained the same since fuel went up to 145.

Subsidies need to go, but not before Nigerians can afford unsubsunsubsidized

Atiku wants to reduce the number of government-funded universities. This policy is similar to the fuel subsidy issue. Government-funded universities must be reduced before Nigerians can earn a living wage and a better quality of life without a university degree.


Investments in primary education and health are vital signs of a severe government. Nigeria has not had a severe government since independence. We have only had a bunch of semi-literate older men who care only about themselves and their families. The quicker people realise it is for all of us.
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by mycar: 2:47pm On Dec 14, 2018
jidamsel43:
But Buhari has never said corruption is different from stealing
Please don't mention that name when we are talking about those that can think for themselves. Someone has a memory loss and you still aspect that person to give a statement.
Re: 2019: We Must Be Fair To GEJ by ImmaculateJOE(m): 2:48pm On Dec 14, 2018
mekaboy:
Let us not let hypocrisy blind our sense of judgement. We have an over bloated service, but GEJ introduced measures to reduce the ghost workers by biometric registration, saving the nation billions monthly.


As for subsidy, it it was removed the sector becomes demand driven. More people will build refineries, source crude and compete. Every business is driven by completion. Even if someone decides to import, they can source forex their own way without government interference. We have cases where CBN was giving forex to high profile Nigerians and they ended up selling to black market. Sanusi said how these men made billions via the forex window in seconds.

While manufacturers and petrol importers will cue up for months to be given little.

If there was no subsidy, are u telling me the someone who exported a product from Nigeria and was paid in foreign currency, and imported fuel with the payment will sell at the same price with someone that bought forex in the black market or even cbn ? Why hasn't this administration found any company to invest in the repair and building of refineries? You heard kachukwu say, that for the past 3 years they did not spend a dime on refineries and could not get investors to invest.

The sector would only be attractive when subsidy is removed.

As for telecoms, competition plays a role in prices. SIM card was 21k when mtn started, today it's 100. Was the cost of sim card production 21k then? But as competition grew, they discovered that it is more important to have people signed up to the network than scare them the price of sim card.


GTBank introduced 0 naira account opening when some banks were doing so with minimum of 10k. That was their competitive advantage and In no time other banks brought down the cost of opening an account to as.low as 1 k . So you can't say competition does not affect pricing.

If we are all importing and I am first to finish a production a refinery in Nigeria, I will sell cheaper than you. As both the crude and refinery are sourced locally.


Call it Almajiri school or whatever you like, the aim is to get the children begging off the streets. How many universities did GEJ build? How many has Buhari built?
GEJ built 9 Federal university PMB built none.
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