NairobiWalker:


1. Why are you so stupid? I said he popularized it, twice. Stop trying to teach me Swahili just to prove to your Nigerian idiots you know Swahili. Everybody in the world knows what the word Safari means.

2.You're not Swahili. Be proud of your own people. You're the kind who'll disown your dad because he's poor.


3. Hurts me? You're really petty and stupid.


5. I would rather be mad than this stupid.


Google Swahili people and learn about them. I would explain it to someone like genieluv but to you, it's either you just want to argue or you're stupid beyond repair.

To google about Swahili people? I am a Swahili.Should I google myself?? Ho ho ho ho...

FYI,anybody can post anything online.Even fools posts tons of lies.We don't have to swallow everything but we need to verify.

A white dude can come in the coastal of east Africa and see some dudes who don't speak any tribal language but Swahili.He will arose and say Swahili is a tribe! Is a big tribe! He then writes his articles online and people will swallow that..

You too can go in west Africa and see the guys who speaks pidgin.Just come back and say pidgin is a tribe! Its a big tribe!

Friend,If we use DNA no one has Swahili DNA.All results will show all these Swahilis are from either Arab or some African Bantu tribes.Its the same case if we do to pidgin speakers.

genieluv:


I never argued that swahili isn't more Bantu dear. Just that without the Arabs it would never have been possible.
******* It's just like present day Hindi which was brought about by Iranian contact. Present day Hindi is now very different from Sanskrit (the original language). Get it?

In that case your reasoning capacity is wanting.

Remember Bantu was once a single language - not even Bantu, all Africans once spoke the same language and the more they interacted with different communities, the more their languages differed. All languages are what they are due to foreign contact. Your insistance on Swahili being what it is due to contact with Arabs is just the typical Nigerian hypocrisy of rubnishing success of other Africans.

PS.......I'm pretty sure if Swahili was a wholly Tanzanian language you'd be praising it like it was the most awesome thing to happen to Africa. Now that you know its actual origin is Kenya, you strive to rubbish it.

samsobo24:
I told you people that if you do anything better than Nigeria, we will leave you behind.

Nigeria's broadband penetration continues to improve

It hit around 35% or so recently

Just wait, we will achieve more than 50% in no time again

Nobody is waiting for you least of all Kenya which ahead of the curve in whole world.Last year we beat the likes of USÀ with average speed of 15mbps mobile internet.

genieluv:


No, Bantus and nilotes are the overwhelming majority and the face of Kenya.
***** The rest are a tiny minority.

so what the face of naija coz the ogas i see here all look the same.. ..which tribe is that..

Yobeezy:


You're always a Nigerian fool and that's it.

you just showed your frustration, your annoyance over the reality which i exposed.

Now who is the fool


If you allow your emotions to take over an argument ,then you a big definition of a frustrated fool

Get off my mentions if you can't argue like a reasonable fellow.

Just few of you are worth arguing with.



Let me tell you again


we see Kenya so irrelevant to our country Nigeria.

Kazikazi:
To google about Swahili people? I am a Swahili.Should I google myself?? Ho ho ho ho...

FYI,anybody can post anything online.Even fools posts tons of lies.We don't have to swallow everything but we need to verify.

A white dude can come in the coastal of east Africa and see some dudes who don't speak any tribal language but Swahili.He will arose and say Swahili is a tribe! Is a big tribe! He then writes his articles online and people will swallow that..

You too can go in west Africa and see the guys who speaks pidgin.Just come back and say pidgin is a tribe! Its a big tribe!

Friend,If we use DNA no one has Swahili DNA.All results will show all these Swahilis are from either Arab or some African Bantu tribes.Its the same case if we do to pidgin speakers.

1. There's nothing like tribal language. That's actually a racist term white people use on Africans and other races they despise.

2. You're being stupid. You're not Swahili, last time I checked, you said you come from interior Tanzania. Speaking Swahili doesn't make you Swahili.

3. I ask you to google because you're ignorant. Google is good with ignorance.

Kazikazi:
Yes it could be great if all east Africans unite and form a single entertainment industry. We were going to swallow the whole of Africa.But there are many obstacles...

First,Most Kenyans value English than Swahili.Its hard to convince them to let go of English.

Second,The entertainment industry in Tz doesn't have gov funding.Its purely individuals effort,in this case it will be harder for private companies to shoulder all the costs of unification.

Then,who will lead the industry? Kenyans aren't ready to been led by Tanzanians! Its a fact.Even on East African community there is a lack of leadership due to the same issue of everyone wants to lead.Kenya and Tz have a "siblings rivarly" type of relationship.

Interesting. I don't think a joint East African entertainment industry has to do with Tanzanians leading Kenyans or Kenyans leading Tanzanians.
****** I think it has to be more of you guys featuring each other.
Take for instance, some Ghanaian movies tend to be popular in the Nigerian market, because their movie producers feature our actors.

~~~~ Tanzanian producers can feature Kenyan actors in their movies and vice versa.

Btw, I would love to ask, how popular are Nigerian movies and musics in Tanzania?

Iwantslavesgone:


You think your overrated Mandela is like trump . Why are you khoizulus so stupid

Has anybody ever told you that you are the most foolish person on this thread? you can't even read a simple sentence.No wonder your president is that "lifeless" Buhari

rvp20183:
Nobody is waiting for you least of all Kenya which ahead of the curve in whole world.Last year we beat the likes of USÀ with average speed of 15mbps mobile internet.

what has the so called internet done for Kenyans.

Nigeria's internet media is one of the most vast ,if not the most self.






That's why you even know what Nigerians haven't heard on the news

mtisTheQubit:

so what the face of naija coz the ogas i see here all look the same.. ..which tribe is that..

Mostly Yorubas, Igbos, then perhaps Edo/Deltans.

tlann:
aahhhh that is the bank that Nigerians make noise about how they control kenya banking sector

Ecobank as the name implies is from the Ecowas body. Ecowas is predominantly a Nigerian thing, as you can see the key people there on the Wikepedia page are mostly Nigerians.
But Ecobank doesn't belong to one country, it's for the region Ecowas.
Everything can't be headquartered in Nigeria, because Nigeria though a big brother in Ecowas loves to share responsibilities and does not impose herself on other Ecowas member nations.

Kur17:

You mean Nairobi is not in Kenya, you're really mad!
Nigerian city pwahahaha

I told you that it isn't easy to manage a state with a tiny land mass, with a population more than Kenya,those pictures were when Lagos island was still in disorder due to only 1 CBD. Lagos island is ten million miles ahead of Nairobi cbd developed by whites. it has more high rises than the whole Kenya. I guess you would have been looking for same for VI ,lekki,Ikeja, etc. Your slums are a stone trow away from your cbd and it pleases you. Rural Lagos infrastructure is more sophisticated than Nairobi's so called cities. Google infrastructure revolution in Lagos and see for yourself. Nairobi is a place where travel agencies ought to explore to bring out the lies and pretence Kenya's have been resorting to. Lagos CBDs are well planned, Lagos is just too much for shitty nairobi

Kazikazi:
To google about Swahili people? I am a Swahili.Should I google myself?? Ho ho ho ho...

FYI,anybody can post anything online.Even fools posts tons of lies.We don't have to swallow everything but we need to verify.

A white dude can come in the coastal of east Africa and see some dudes who don't speak any tribal language but Swahili.He will arose and say Swahili is a tribe! Is a big tribe! He then writes his articles online and people will swallow that..

You too can go in west Africa and see the guys who speaks pidgin.Just come back and say pidgin is a tribe! Its a big tribe!

Friend,If we use DNA no one has Swahili DNA.All results will show all these Swahilis are from either Arab or some African Bantu tribes.Its the same case if we do to pidgin speakers.

Ok NairobiWalker, let's put childishness asides and be factual.
****** Here in Nigeria, there are non hausas who now identify as Hausas because they have been subsumed under Hausa culture and language. They've abandoned their own ancestral languages and now speak hausa as a mother tongue.
I think this is the exact case with Kazikazi. Many Tanzanians seem to have been subsumed by swahili language and culture, to the extent that they now see themselves as part of it. Going by this, don't you think they should be able to claim swahili nativity? Thanks.

>>>> Afterall, the Arabs of North Africa and the Levantine were never originally arabs, but were arabized. Today, they claim to be arabs and the world considers them such.

samsobo24:

I told you that it isn't easy to manage a state
with a tiny land mass, with a population more
than Kenya,those pictures were when Lagos
island was still in disorder due to only 1 CBD.
Lagos island is ten million miles ahead of Nairobi
cbd developed by whites. it has more high rises
than the whole Kenya.
I guess you would have been looking for same
for VI ,lekki,Ikeja, etc.
Your slums are a stone trow away from your cbd
and it pleases you.
Rural Lagos infrastructure is more sophisticated
than Nairobi's so called cities.
Google infrastructure revolution in Lagos and see
for yourself.
Nairobi is a place where travel agencies ought to
explore to bring out the lies and pretence
Kenya's have been resorting to.
Lagos CBDs are well planned, Lagos is just too
much for shitty nairobi

just look at the relative distance between your 2 CBDs

just 1 km and after the buildings of the white,you ride into the city of world class slums

genieluv:


Mostly Yorubas, Igbos, then perhaps Edo/Deltans.

an i thought the shy boy is the face of Naija.. the dude is hausa

samsobo24:
what has the so called internet done for Kenyans.

Nigeria's internet media is one of the most vast ,if not the most self.






That's why you even know what Nigerians haven't heard on the news

Wonder why Kenyans know almost everything about most of other countries?

Have you noticed that there's almost everything you would wish to know about Kenya online, from pictorial to all other form info, more than any other African country

Apart from having one of the fastest, it also has one of the highest in terms of penetrations

112% for Kenya
50% for Nigeria

NairobiWalker:


In that case your reasoning capacity is wanting.

Remember Bantu was once a single language - not even Bantu, all Africans once spoke the same language and the more they interacted with different communities, the more their languages differed. All languages are what they are due to foreign contact. Your insistance on Swahili being what it is due to contact with Arabs is just the typical Nigerian hypocrisy of rubnishing success of other Africans.

Yes you are right, but in most cases with the evolution of new languages, it involves a group of native speakers breaking away from the mother area and evolving new features either by interraction with others or isolation.
******* In the case of Swahili, it was somewhat the same. Just that another entirely different mix of genes, cultures and lifestyles came into the gene pool.
Arabs have already evolved a more advanced trade system than East African Bantus and this was the factor that mobilized the spread of the language all around the coasts and the hinterlands.
~~~~~ So, there is absolutely no way we can absolve Arab influence and contribution from the identity and spread of swahili, it's just impossible. It was a joint Bantu-Arab affair.

¤¤¤¤ It's just like us trying to say that South African blacks are all Bantus and completely absolve the contribution of the Khoisans who even gave south african Bantu languages the unique click sounds they posses today.

PS.......I'm pretty sure if Swahili was a wholly Tanzanian language you'd be praising it like it was the most awesome thing to happen to Africa. Now that you know its actual origin is Kenya, you strive to rubbish it.

I thought Swahili originated all along the coasts of both Kenya & Tanzania at once?

JaceBlaze:
Has anybody ever told you that you are the most foolish person on this thread? you can't even read a simple sentence.No wonder your president is that "lifeless" Buhari

not lifeless but he is jibril Al sudan

samsobo24:

I told you that it isn't easy to manage a state
with a tiny land mass, with a population more
than Kenya,those pictures were when Lagos
island was still in disorder due to only 1 CBD.
Lagos island is ten million miles ahead of Nairobi
cbd developed by whites. it has more high rises
than the whole Kenya.
I guess you would have been looking for same
for VI ,lekki,Ikeja, etc.
Your slums are a stone trow away from your cbd
and it pleases you.
Rural Lagos infrastructure is more sophisticated
than Nairobi's so called cities.
Google infrastructure revolution in Lagos and see
for yourself.
Nairobi is a place where travel agencies ought to
explore to bring out the lies and pretence
Kenya's have been resorting to.
Lagos CBDs are well planned, Lagos is just too
much for shitty nairobi

It's an old pic? How old is it? Where is the current pic? Bcz even the Google maps is showing the same unfortunate sceneries

genieluv:


Yes you are right, but in most cases with the evolution of new languages, it involves a group of native speakers breaking away from the mother area and evolving new features either by interraction with others or isolation.
******* In the case of Swahili, it was somewhat the same. Just that another entirely different mix of genes, cultures and lifestyles came into the gene pool.
Arabs have already evolved a more advanced trade system than East African Bantus and this was the factor that mobilized the spread of the language all around the coasts and the hinterlands.
~~~~~ So, there is absolutely no way we can absolve Arab influence and contribution from the identity and spread of swahili, it's just impossible. It was a joint Bantu-Arab affair.

¤¤¤¤ It's just like us trying to say that South African blacks are all Bantus and completely absolve the contribution of the Khoisans who even gave south african Bantu languages the unique click sounds they posses today.



I thought Swahili originated all along the coasts of both Kenya & Tanzania at once?

gal i have seen a quite peculiar pattern ya have..you start a discussing by humbly asking questions an stuff but at the end ya turn around a claim you know everything..look i wouldn't argue on how Fulani people had an effect on Nigeria but same you dont have knowledge on swahili ..its an east african thing not west africa an its wise to listen to natives either Nairobiwalker or even kazimoto

Kur17:




Wonder why Kenyans know almost everything about most of other countries?

Have you noticed that there's almost everything you would wish to know about Kenya online, from pictorial to all other form info, more than any other African country

Apart from having one of the fastest, it also has one of the highest in terms of penetrations

112% for Kenya
50% for Nigeria

Keep on deceiving yourself

Even if Kenya has 10000000000%
it doesn't make black Kenyans better than Nigeria

Kur17:


It's an old pic? How old is it? Where is the current pic?

I refer you to forgiveness iwantslavesgone

They have tons of pics for you,meanwhile manage this one for me.

The Lagos light rail can be seen
The CBD you posted as slum,even has a modern bus terminus, something that looks like rocket science for Nairislum

tigakudora:
not lifeless but he is jibril Al sudan

pity when even the natives are not sure about their king...way to go naija

genieluv:


Ok NairobiWalker, let's put childishness asides and be factual.
****** Here in Nigeria, there are non hausas who now identify as Hausas because they have been subsumed under Hausa culture and language. They've abandoned their own ancestral languages and now speak hausa as a mother tongue.
I think this is the exact case with Kazikazi. Many Tanzanians seem to have been subsumed by swahili language and culture, to the extent that they now see themselves as part of it. Going by this, don't you think they should be able to claim swahili nativity? Thanks.

>>>> Afterall, the Arabs of North Africa and the Levantine were never originally arabs, but were arabized. Today, they claim to be arabs and the world considers them such.

I understand but can somebody from Delta state, born and raised, claim to be Hausa? Even in Kenya, many coasterians such as Mijikenda (whose language is basically a different form of Swahili and sounds exactly like Swahili) claim to be Swahilis. But this guy was born and raised in interior Tanzania. There's nothing Swahili about him other than being able to speak the language. He's just being stupid.

samsobo24:
Keep on deceiving yourself

Even if Kenya has 10000000000%
it doesn't make black Kenyans better than Nigeria

Since this thread began you've never shown where you positively lead above...
Just nominal(fake) GDP&population

Internet penetrations
Education
Health care
HDI
everything positive Kenya beats you hands down, and those are the indicators of better economy

samsobo24:
Keep on deceiving yourself

Even if Kenya has 10000000000%
it doesn't make black Kenyans better than Nigeria

You're losing it.Go smoke something.

NairobiWalker:


1. There's nothing like tribal language. That's actually a racist term white people use on Africans and other races they despise.

2. You're being stupid. You're not Swahili, last time I checked, you said you come from interior Tanzania. Speaking Swahili doesn't make you Swahili.

3. I ask you to google because you're ignorant. Google is good with ignorance.

Let's use DNA tests and see if your Mombasa governor will have Swahili DNA! Then you will tell me what made a Mombasa guy to be a swahili!

Kur17:


Since this thread began you've never shown where you positively lead above...
Just nominal(fake) GDP&population

Internet penetrations
Education
Health care
HDI
everything positive Kenya beats you hands down, and those are the indicators of better economy

And better quality of life and future prospect.

Kazikazi:
Let's use DNA tests and see if your Mombasa governor will have Swahili DNA! Then you will tell me what made a Mombasa guy to be a swahili!

Do you even know how a tribe forms.There are people who identity themselves as swahilis, they live together, are native swahilis speakers and have common unique maybe in 1000 yrs you'll be Tanzanian by ethnicity the same you got English or Germans or Italians.

mtisTheQubit:

an i thought the shy boy is the face of Naija.. the dude is hausa

The chances of you finding a Hausa person in Kenya are very slim, so I really don't believe this.

-------There is no face of Naija. The truth is that the major difference in Nigerian faces is mostly divided into Southern & Northern Nigeria.. .... Northern Nigerians tend to have a simpler, rounder and more 'feminine' face compared to southern Nigerians.
****** However, that doesn't mean there are no simpler, rounder and feminine faces in the south and no broader faces in the north.

°°°°°For instances, most Kenyans accept the faces they see on Nollywood to be the perfect representation of Nigerian faces. Forgetting that most Northerners look like this.

samsobo24:
Keep on deceiving yourself

Even if Kenya has 10000000000%
it doesn't make black Kenyans better than Nigeria

yah they are better..askwhy all ths naijas pitching on one bedroom house somewhere in Nairobi..what the freaky are they doing here..or the question is what the hell are they running from ..

NairobiWalker:


I understand but can somebody from Delta state, born and raised, claim to be Hausa? Even in Kenya, many coasterians such as Mijikenda (whose language is basically a different form of Swahili and sounds exactly like Swahili) claim to be Swahilis. But this guy was born and raised in interior Tanzania. There's nothing Swahili about him other than being able to speak the language. He's just being stupid.

Pwa pwa pwa pwa...
All those guys in the coast as you said had their tribes.Its true.
FYI,in Tanzania we have similar cases in interior too.That why you need to ask yourself who is a Swahili?