₦airaland Forum

degamemaster:
You're considerably right but the fact remains that, church is not a profit orientated organisation even though some pastorpreneurs thinks otherwise. Then, on the other hand, if churches should provide "affordable schools" that means the gov't has failed the citizenry because that can only happen where there is a failed govt then churches may decide to step in, which is exactly the kind of society we found ourselves.
#OurGovtHasFailedUs that's why some now takes advantage of the situation to milk their congregation.

Church is not suppose to be for profit but majority of the Pentecostal pastors has made it so, when they build schools from the Church yet it's only for the rich.

If Churches can provide good education (formal and informal) to it's members, it will make a great positive impact on our society, not necessarily taking the role of the government.
Note: the members of the Church are the Church citizens.
The Church is supposed to be like a check/correct the excesses of the government, but rather they are not.
It's because of these pastorprenours activities that has caused all this complains in the Christianity of today

Judybash93:
I enjoyed reading your comment until i got to the last paragraph. Sir, that was quite insensitive. Judging from what i know about Christianity, it should be a religion of peace and not where you'll have to prove a point by insulting people that insult you.

Noted.
However, I'm not taking back my words. Tenkiu

desiredhome:
Church is not suppose to be for profit but majority of the Pentecostal pastors has made it so, when they build schools from the Church yet it's only for the rich.

If Churches can provide good education (formal and informal) to it's members, it will make a great positive impact on our society, not necessarily taking the role of the government.
Note: the members of the Church are the Church citizens.
The Church is supposed to be like a check/correct the excesses of the government, but rather they are not.
It's because of these pastorprenours activities that has caused all this complains in the Christianity of today

Who told you schools are for profit making? Sebi that's how Nigeria government took schools from missionaries. Today they're returning them. You think they don't have sense? Why do they struggle to pay salaries in Nigerian public schools.

donnie:
Who told you schools are for profit making? Sebi that's how Nigeria government took schools from missionaries. Today they're returning them. You think they don't have sense? Why do they struggle to pay salaries in Nigerian public schools.

So when a school built by Church is charging fee of 500k and above, is that not profit venture?
Government can't manage the schools because the system has made it so, we are good at destroying public property due to our greed, including you,

desiredhome:
So when a school built by Church is charging fee of 500k and above, is that not profit venture?
Government can't manage the schools because the system has made it so, we are good at destroying public property due to our greed, including you,

500k for Accomadation for a whole semester.
Plus Tuition the whole semester
Plus Books the whole semester.
Plus Constant light, security, facilities etc

Must really be a magical 500k.

And please mind how you use the Word "we".

donnie:
500k for Accomadation for a whole semester.
Plus Tuition the whole semester
Plus Books the whole semester.
Plus Constant light, security, facilities etc

Must really be a magical 500k.

And please mind how you use the Word "we".

We the Nigerians do can't manage public (government) properties what's wrong with that? are u not a Nigerian?

So what about those Church members who can't sincerely afford that amount?
When the missionaries brought education here, how much do they charge you?

desiredhome:
We the Nigerians do can't manage public (government) properties what's wrong with that? are u not a Nigerian?

So what about those Church members who can't sincerely afford that amount?
When the missionaries brought education here, how much do they charge you?

So because there are people in the congregation that cannot afford it, the idea should be jettisoned? Are there no other schools in the country they can attend?

And you think the missionaries those days built those schools for free? They had big givers overseas who sponsored mission work around the world!

Even communities in Ngeria put money together to send one or two children to school.

And for your information, there are Nigerian churches that give scholarship to school in some of these private schools, even today.

Do you know how much your government puts into tertiary education every year? You say the churches are supposed to check excesses of government or show example but they're not doing so; you even call them "pastorpreneurs". But now you realize they're good managers of funds; so much so that people think of schools as a profit making venture.

kennygee:
No. I'm not one of those o.

What I mean is, since freeze and his likes want for the church to announce their charity works, it will be announced.

It's okay Dear...
Happy Sunday and merry Christmas...

Don't forget my chicken laps oh...

donnie:
So because there are people in the congregation that cannot afford it, the idea should be jettisoned? Are there no other schools in the country they can attend?

And you think the missionaries those days built those schools for free? They had big givers overseas who sponsored mission work around the world!

Even communities in Ngeria put money together to send one or two children to school.

And for your information, there are Nigerian churches that give scholarship to school in some of these private schools, even today.

Do you know how much your government puts into tertiary education every year? You say the churches are supposed to check excesses of government or show example but they're not doing so; you even call them "pastorpreneurs". But now you realize they're good managers of funds; so much so that people think of schools as a profit making venture.

Maybe you do not know the purpose of the Church, these people that are not able to are the number one priority of the Church, in this cases, over 70% of the members can't afford, meanwhile they all contributed to that building right?
Mind you "Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world"

The funding of the schools is still from the Church, instead of building empires and multiple businesses for yourself and be boasting to be stupendous rich, is that not the money that is supposed used for the funding the schools and other ventures that will be of benefit to the members?
mind you, Church of God are the members, both the rich and poor because in the site of God all are equal,

desiredhome:
Maybe you do not know the purpose of the Church, these people that are not able to are the number one priority of the Church, in this cases, over 70% of the members can't afford, meanwhile they all contributed to that building right?

Who deceived you.
So you're the one who called him to know the purpose of the Church

They are not the no.1 priority, Jesus and his commandment (to preach the gospel) are the no.1 priority of the Church. In so doing, we take care of the poor as well.

Besides, the poor that come don't remain poor. Why do you think we have growing congregations if there are no testimonies of changed lives? That's the power of the gospel.

desiredhome:
The funding of the schools is still from the Church, instead of building empires and multiple businesses for yourself and be boasting to be stupendous rich, is that not the money that is supposed used for the funding the schools and other ventures that will be of benefit to the members?
mind you, Church of God are the members, both the rich and poor because in the site of God all are equal,

The bolded is the reason why I said those who criticize the Church this way haven't yet said what is paining them. What empire? Church buildings, schools, printing press etc? That's the business empire?

Boasting? I laugh... don't worry, we understand the MOG, so no problems.

Just commot your eye for inside church purse face front. They are not responsible for the poverty in the land. And poor people are not about to finish; we'll always have them. And The members are not complaining, why would you?

donnie:
Who deceived you.
So you're the one who called him to know the purpose of the Church

They are not the no.1 priority, Jesus and his commandment (to preach the gospel) are the no.1 priority of the Church. In so doing, we take care of the poor as well.

Besides, the poor that come don't remain poor. Why do you think we have growing congregations if there are no testimonies of changed lives? That's the power of the gospel.



The bolded is the reason why I said those who criticize the Church this way haven't yet said what is paining them. What empire? Church buildings, schools, printing press etc? That's the business empire?

Boasting? I laugh... don't worry, we understand the MOG, so no problems.

Just commot your eye for inside church purse face front. They are not responsible for the poverty in the land. And poor people are not about to finish; we'll always have them. And The members are not complaining, why would you?

When one is so brainwashed to the point that you can't reason, that's is serious case.
You should base your points on facts on group not on some illusions that you been sold,

The poor don't remain poor?

just Google the poorest people on earth, the search should tell you your position of poverty (world capital of poverty = Nigeria) you inclusive, so you should stop deceiving yourself with this suffering and smiling mentality

you are not complaining, yet with the same mouth you are shouting hunger is killing us, the economy is bad, etc, I have a whole lot of you, some in worst situation.

Wonder why people are rushing to places like Dubai, America, etc, compare them to Nigeria, you will get a new name for blessing

desiredhome:
When one is so brainwashed to the point that you can't reason, that's is serious case.
You should base your points on facts on group not on some illusions that you been sold,

The poor don't remain poor?

just Google the poorest people on earth, the search should tell you your position of poverty (world capital of poverty = Nigeria) you inclusive, so you should stop deceiving yourself with this suffering and smiling mentality

you are not complaining, yet with the same mouth you are shouting hunger is killing us, the economy is bad, etc, I have a whole lot of you, some in worst situation.

Wonder why people are rushing to places like Dubai, America, etc, compare them to Nigeria, you will get a new name for blessing

See who is talking about facts on ground. What facts do you have apart from the lies the media sells to you?

I see with my own eyes daily, lives of brothers and sisters in Christ changed forever. Stop talking nonsense.

Then you mention Google.

Look, there is NIgeria and there is the Church. You get that? The church of Jesus Christ can never go down. Kingdom prosperity is real.

People are rushing to Dubai and America... really? Well, as for us in Christ, our prosperity is inborn... no need to run around.

Our prosperity is independent of the world around us. See what is written about us....

Isaiah 60:2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.

60:3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.

donnie:
See who is talking about facts on ground. What facts do you have apart from the lies the media sells to you?

I see with my own eyes daily, lives of brothers and sisters in Christ changed forever. Stop talking nonsense.

Then you mention Google.

Look, there is NIgeria and there is the Church. You get that? The church of Jesus Christ can never go down. Kingdom prosperity is real.

People are rushing to Dubai and America... really? Well, as for us in Christ, our prosperity is inborn... no need to run around.

Our prosperity is independent of the world around us. See what is written about us....

Isaiah 60:2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.

60:3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.

We have toiled a lot on this going back and forth but the truth must always stands and that's what will set you free.

It is only God that can bless and reward Dr Paul Enenche for his good deeds to human kind the body of Christ, his generation and the church of God, https://seedsofdestiny.com.ng/2018/12/25/dr-paul-enenche-gives-christmas-gifts-and-food-stuffs-to-widows-orphans-and-less-privileged/