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Do you people know what you worship at all? Many of you envagelise and convert muslims and atheists into falsehood making them twice as deserving to go to hell as yourself (if hell exists).
Here is what a preacher has to say about your trinity:

What horrible confusion, vain glory and litigation that has been produced by the philosophers who seem Christians, placing God under the microscope in their intellectual laboratories and sectioning Him into three beings; even altering the Scriptures to support their damnable heresies! What arrogance! What presumption!

These are doctrines of demons designed to confuse and mislead seekers of truth. They exist to test pilgrims who travel to the heavenly city of God. Paul told the Corinthians:

"For there must be heresies among you also, that they which are approved [of God] may appear among you" (1 Corinthians 11:19 MKJV).

The Scriptures also say:

"Hear, O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord UNO is." (Deuteronomy 6: 4 NKJV)

" A one Lord, one faith, one baptism." (Ephesians 4: 5 NKJV)

"And without contradiction, great is the mystery of piety: God was manifested in the flesh; justified in the Spirit; seen from the angels; preached to the Gentiles; believed in the world; received up in glory. "(1 Timothy 3:16 NIV)

"Jesus said to him: So long have I been with you, and you have not yet met me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; How, then, do you say: Show us the Father? "(John 14: 9 MKJV)

"Therefore, take heed to yourselves, and to all the flock in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God, which He purchased with His own blood ." (Acts 20:28 NIV)

Who bought the Church of God - Jesus, the Holy Spirit or God?

Some apologists for the doctrine of the trinity came out with the beautiful explanation that we pray to the Father, through the Son, through the Holy Spirit. But who did Esteban pray to him when he was stoned?

"And they stoned Stephen, while he invoked God and said: Lord Jesus, receive my spirit." (Acts 7:59 RVG)

Perhaps the trauma of the experience prevented him from understanding the difficult, yes, the impossible concept of the trinity and remembering how he should relate to such a concept? (Who can conceive such a thing?)

The arguments of the Trinitarians are the product of a brainwashing, and very easily countered with the truth of the Scriptures.

Jesus said: "My sheep hear My voice." I hear the voice of God. Do I hear introductions like, "This is the Father," or "This time is the Son," or, "Yesterday you heard the Son, but today it's Me, the Holy Spirit, the one who speaks to you."? Or do I hear a chorus of three voices sometimes? No, I hear a voice, as it happened to the prophets of God. He is One, not three.

Jesus is God, and all the figurative language that Jesus and others used regarding the Person of God is understood by those to whom it is given. Isaiah says that there is only one Savior and that there is no other but Him:

Isaiah 45: 21-23 NKJV
(21) Declare and present your case; Yes, let them deliberate together: Who has announced this since antiquity and declared it since then? Is not I, the LORD? There is no God but Me, a just and saving God; there is none outside Me.
(22) Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; because I am God, and there is no other.
(23) By Myself I have sworn, a word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness that will not be revoked: That to Me every knee will bow, and every tongue will swear allegiance .

Philippians 2: 9-11 MKJV
(9) Therefore God also exalted him to the utmost, and bestowed on him the name that is above every name,
(10) so that at the Name of Jesus all the knee of those who are in Heaven, and on earth, and under the earth,
(11) and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father .

Isaiah calls the Son "Admirable, Counselor, Mighty God , Eternal Father , Prince of Peace." God presented himself to the world in a body formed for that purpose, and we must worship Him as He is. Any other things is vanity.

I am a person. I am a father, a son, and a husband. That speaks of three positions or roles, but it does not make me three people. So it is with God, the Lord Jesus Christ. The Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit is Lord (Father) Jesus (Son) Christ (Holy Spirit, meaning "The Anointed One".

Man was created in the likeness of God. Is man three people? If God is three, but man is one, the image that God created is false. But God is not three, and His image is perfectly accurate. Yes, I am spirit, soul and body, but I am a person, not three.

Read our section The Trinity .

For more explanations of various Scripture verses about the Oneness of God, read Jesus Christ, Almighty God and The Most Glorious of Truths .

Consider the alternative to the confusion of the doctrine of the trinity: If you believe in the One True God, and seek to honor Him, you will never have to figure out who you are dealing with, or worry about minimizing God in any way, subtracting His authority, power or glory.

Michellekabod:
Do you people know what you worship at all? Many of you envagelise and convert muslims and atheists into falsehood making them twice as deserving to go to hell as yourself (if hell exists).

Here is what a preacher has to say about your trinity:

What horrible confusion, vain glory and litigation that has been produced by the philosophers who seem Christians, placing God under the microscope in their intellectual laboratories and sectioning Him into three beings; even altering the Scriptures to support their damnable heresies! What arrogance! What presumption!

These are doctrines of demons designed to confuse and mislead seekers of truth. They exist to test pilgrims who travel to the heavenly city of God. Paul told the Corinthians:

"For there must be heresies among you also, that they which are approved [of God] may appear among you" (1 Corinthians 11:19 MKJV).

The Scriptures also say:

"Hear, O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord UNO is." (Deuteronomy 6: 4 NKJV)

" A one Lord, one faith, one baptism." (Ephesians 4: 5 NKJV)

"And without contradiction, great is the mystery of piety: God was manifested in the flesh; justified in the Spirit; seen from the angels; preached to the Gentiles; believed in the world; received up in glory. "(1 Timothy 3:16 NIV)

"Jesus said to him: So long have I been with you, and you have not yet met me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; How, then, do you say: Show us the Father? "(John 14: 9 MKJV)

"Therefore, take heed to yourselves, and to all the flock in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God, which He purchased with His own blood ." (Acts 20:28 NIV)

Who bought the Church of God - Jesus, the Holy Spirit or God?

Some apologists for the doctrine of the trinity came out with the beautiful explanation that we pray to the Father, through the Son, through the Holy Spirit. But who did Esteban pray to him when he was stoned?

"And they stoned Stephen, while he invoked God and said: Lord Jesus, receive my spirit." (Acts 7:59 RVG)

Perhaps the trauma of the experience prevented him from understanding the difficult, yes, the impossible concept of the trinity and remembering how he should relate to such a concept? (Who can conceive such a thing?)

The arguments of the Trinitarians are the product of a brainwashing, and very easily countered with the truth of the Scriptures.

Jesus said: "My sheep hear My voice." I hear the voice of God. Do I hear introductions like, "This is the Father," or "This time is the Son," or, "Yesterday you heard the Son, but today it's Me, the Holy Spirit, the one who speaks to you."? Or do I hear a chorus of three voices sometimes? No, I hear a voice, as it happened to the prophets of God. He is One, not three.

Jesus is God, and all the figurative language that Jesus and others used regarding the Person of God is understood by those to whom it is given. Isaiah says that there is only one Savior and that there is no other but Him:

Isaiah 45: 21-23 NKJV
(21) Declare and present your case; Yes, let them deliberate together: Who has announced this since antiquity and declared it since then? Is not I, the LORD? There is no God but Me, a just and saving God; there is none outside Me.
(22) Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; because I am God, and there is no other.
(23) By Myself I have sworn, a word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness that will not be revoked: That to Me every knee will bow, and every tongue will swear allegiance .

Philippians 2: 9-11 MKJV
(9) Therefore God also exalted him to the utmost, and bestowed on him the name that is above every name,
(10) so that at the Name of Jesus all the knee of those who are in Heaven, and on earth, and under the earth,
(11) and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father .

Isaiah calls the Son "Admirable, Counselor, Mighty God , Eternal Father , Prince of Peace." God presented himself to the world in a body formed for that purpose, and we must worship Him as He is. Any other things is vanity.

I am a person. I am a father, a son, and a husband. That speaks of three positions or roles, but it does not make me three people. So it is with God, the Lord Jesus Christ. The Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit is Lord (Father) Jesus (Son) Christ (Holy Spirit, meaning "The Anointed One".

Man was created in the likeness of God. Is man three people? If God is three, but man is one, the image that God created is false. But God is not three, and His image is perfectly accurate. Yes, I am spirit, soul and body, but I am a person, not three.

Read our section The Trinity .

For more explanations of various Scripture verses about the Oneness of God, read Jesus Christ, Almighty God and The Most Glorious of Truths .

Consider the alternative to the confusion of the doctrine of the trinity: If you believe in the One True God, and seek to honor Him, you will never have to figure out who you are dealing with, or worry about minimizing God in any way, subtracting His authority, power or glory.

No one except atheists, is doubting whether or not God is a Spirit, and/or also that He is the Word, Jesus Christ.

The fact and truth, that I know is difficult for many, to understand, is that, God, as well, is: I AM

''I AM that I AM'', ''I SHALL BE THAT I SHALL'' or ''I WILL BE THAT I BE'' are expressive phrases, meaning God will be what God needs to be.

We find out what God was yesterday, we keep knowing Him every moment and day. He is new every morning, He is new tomorrow.

Thats why, God in Exodus 3:14, said to Moses:
"I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you."

Essentially means, I will become whatsoever I may become.

God therefore, is, "not-known-number" of person
God, then, is, x-person
and God, in effect is, ∞-persons, as in, infinite or infinity.

God is someone without any bound.
God is someone bigger and larger than any specified number, even three or trinity.

If more Christians properly read the Bible, they'll be less Christians.

PS frosbel2 what's with the reserving place, space and position with that placeholder word you plonked there below me

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@ Michellekabod.

The old testament prove the fact that there is
ONLY ONE GOD. Isreal is surrounded with many
nation that worship different gods. God people
needed to know that there is only ONE GOD:
Deut. 6:4
"Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God is ONE LORD"

This verse give two details about God. 1. The
nature of God (God's ONENESS) and 2. Jehovah
is the only God.The old testament emphasizing
of the UNITY of God, is not silent with respect to
the PLURALITY of God's Nature. The old
testament lay the groundwork for the new
testament revelation.

The hebrew word for God is Elohim, plural in
form."In the beginning God CREATED" (Genesis
1:1). God is the omnipotent CREATOR! The
name for "God" found in Genesis 1:1 is the
Hebrew word "ELOHIM" the ending of this word
(..IM) is a plural ending,(more than one) just like
our english language "S" is the ending word for
plural. For example:

1. CHERUBIM (Exodus 25:18-20)
2. SERAPHIM (Isaiah 6:2,6)
3. TERAPHIM(judges 17:5)

The words end with IM , they are plural in form.
In Genesis 1:1 the verb "CREATED" is a
SINGULAR verb, and it means "HE (singular)
CREATED." Two answers may be given to the
question, "Who created the heavens and the
earth?"
1. HE DID (singular) because the verb means
"HE CREATED." The verb does not mean
"THEY CREATED."
2. GOD DID (plural) because the word
ELOHIM is a plural word!
So, there is a sense in which God the Creator is
singular. There is only ONE God and He is the
Creator. There is no other God. It is also true
that there is a sense in which He is plural. This
brings us to our next point:
PLURAL UNITY OF GOD.

Deuteronomy 6:4 says: "Hear, O Israel: The
LORD [singular] our God [ELOHIM-plural] is ONE
Lord."

God is Love, if God is two, our Love will be
DIVIDED and one will not Get our full devotion.
So YES, God is ONE and He deserve our Full
attention.

The Hebrew word"ONE"found in Deuteronomy 6:4
is a word that can be used to describe a
plural (composite) UNITY (a unity made up of
more than one component). For Example in
Genesis 11:5 "Behold, the PEOPLE IS ONE." The
people (plural) at Babel were united together as
ONE. It was a UNITY, but it was made up of
many people (a plural unity).

Another example is in Genesis 2:24 where the
same word "one" is found: "Therefore shall a
man leave his father and his mother and shall
cleave unto his wife and they shall be one flesh."
Here we have a plural unity. It is a ONENESS
made up of two persons" a husband and a wife"
They (plural) shall be one (singular) flesh. The
two are one.

Just as Genesis 11:5 speaks of a plural unity
(many people being ONE), and just as Genesis
2:24 speaks of a plural unity (two people being
ONE), so also Deuteronomy 6:4 describes God
who is a PLURAL UNITY. Later we will learn that
this plural unity is actually a TRI-UNITY.
In Isaiah 6:8 , we have a threefold
declaration of God's holiness: "And one cried
unto another, and said, HOLY, HOLY, HOLY is
the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of His
glory" (Isaiah 6:3). we learn elsewhere in
Scripture, namely that 1) God the Father is Holy
(John 17:11); 2) God the Son is Holy (Heb. 7:26
and compare Luke 1:35); 3) God the Holy Spirit
is Holy (as His very Name declares)
In Genesis , God is repeatedly mention as the
creator, and in Genesis 1:2 we saw how the Holy
spirit is actively involve " was moving in the face
of the water. And in john 1:1 we understand that
the Word (jesus) was God and everything were
created through Him.

Even Jesus appeared to over 500 disciples at thesame time yet he is still one Jesus.
500 Jesus = 1 Jesus.

"After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep." - 1 Corinthians 15:6

Nothing is impossible with God
Human understanding is limited.