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| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by able1993(m): 8:16am On Jan 10, 2019 |
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| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by Goke7: 8:17am On Jan 10, 2019 |
franchasng:You have some valid points but The main issue is have we all in Nigeria agreed on the definition of corruption in Nigeria? That is the starting point, start asking the average Nigerian to define corruption and you will be shocked just like the former president told us that stealing is not corruption. Until we all agree on the same definition of corruption, then we will be serious, PMB is not the problem but we Nigerians! Even the religious bodies in Nigeria are yet to agree on the definition of corruption |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by Aladdin1(m): 8:18am On Jan 10, 2019 |
And any one who thinks that Buhari and APC government is fighting corruption is a myopic,gullible and incurable fool. END OF DISCUSSION! |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by jrusky(m): 8:18am On Jan 10, 2019 |
Great talk not fighting corruption is dangerous and satanic but fighting it only on perceived enemies is very very and very dangerous and extremely satanic. So tell Buhari to free all his ministers with looting cases in their various state to return home to answer their querries. Tell Buhari to remove Akpabio from his campaign team. Akpabio is owing Nigeria $700 million he looted and we need the money back. Tell Buhari to make nationwide broadcast that all looters that jumped fence to his party should pls be ready for probe. Tell Buhari we need statement and EFCC ICPC investigation on the $25 billion NNPC fake contract ASAP. Tell Buhari we need EFCC to take over with immediate effect Ikoyi gate, Daura gate, Grass cutter gate, Meina gate, Aisha gate, Osubandit gate, Ganduje gate, Oshio chimpz gate etc. Anything short of the list above apc plus kegame or Kegaga should shut da f u c k. Nothing like fighting corruption in Nigeria and that is why none of these armed robbers called politician has not learn any lesson till today. So Kegame should mind his business and shut up he doesnt know what we are going through in the hand of Buhari with his fake corruption fight here. |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by martineverest(m): 8:21am On Jan 10, 2019 |
ACHILLES45:do u even know Paul kagame and his legacy in Rwanda? |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by Alexk2(m): 8:23am On Jan 10, 2019 |
Goke7:Nothing more to say that that; God bless you bro. |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by Tomis954: 8:24am On Jan 10, 2019 |
ATIKU WANTS TO EAT YOUR CAKE AND HAVE IT Atiku latest adventure in trying to stand shoulder-to-shoulder in matters of integrity with President Muhammadu Buhari is a political suicide mission from which we thought his handlers would have tried to steer him away. But alas! They have decided to test the waters. Locally and internationally President Muhammadu Buhari stands several miles away from Alhaji Atiku Abubakar in matters of integrity. When the President used all his life in public office building a reputation and a name, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar used all his life in public office to build mansions and acquire personal wealth. Now Judgment Day has come when the credentials needed by the Nigerian people for the highest office are not the buildings and wealth but the simple quality of integrity. Atiku cannot eat his cake and have it.
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| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by jrusky(m): 8:27am On Jan 10, 2019 |
martineverest:Yea he is good leader no doubt about it but he does not know what is going on here so he should mind his business because if he has be settling his wartorn nation the way Buhari and apc are doing here in Nigeria his country would have no longer exist by now. |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by HomeOfMe(f): 8:27am On Jan 10, 2019 |
seunmsg:Corruption needs to be fought. But fighting it selectively while shielding your own men who are equally corrupt is hypocritical and indirrectly promoting same corruption. |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by Acidosis(m): 8:27am On Jan 10, 2019 |
tesppidd:Selective fight against corruption does more harm than good. Ever heard the word hypocrisy? It is knowing something is wrong and refusing to take actions because it affects you and your close allies. Better not fight Melaye for stealing than fight him and still keep even greater criminals as friends. This is a "worse" form of anti-corruption and it is doing more harm than good. Nigeria as far as I'm concerned is not fighting corruption. The Buhari many of you f00lishly talked about in 2014 is that Buhari that would jail Gandollar and that Ex PDP Senator that immediately became a saint after waving the broom. The Buhari many of you envisioned only existed in the figment of your imaginations. The current one is no different from some of the greatest thieves ever known in this country. |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by Omolaawari: 8:27am On Jan 10, 2019 |
Nigerians don't be deceived..There is corruption in every country of the world...the menace requires a continuous and systematic approach to tackle. Building a more dynamic institution to prevent corruption is quite better than fighting it just like an adage says...Prevention is better than cure. Nigerians are alwaz in a rush and haste to get things done....just like our leaders fought for independence at the wrong time...Gradually am so sure we will get there and get it right soon. Just as we have condemned all previous govt, I strongly believe each administration has contributed something positive to the building and development of this great nation...Nigeria is better off that 1999 truth be told....Even if you hate PDP, alwaz acknowledge the fact the party deepened and sustained democracy and also allowed smooth transition to an opposition..and that is the basis of all we are talking about today. So many institution created, satellite launched, debt recovery and the rest of it...that laid the foundation the APC is now building on..so my believe is so strong that we are gradually getting there...If the welfare of a civil servant is not enhanced so as to live a normal and fulfilled life...fighting corruption is like chasing shadows. |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by ednut1(m): 8:28am On Jan 10, 2019 |
Goke7:the iraq and libya wars was not corruption ba The funding of rebels is not. |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by buharitill2023: 8:30am On Jan 10, 2019 |
Guide777:the only economy policy of thief atiku/obigot, pdp and the jobless aggressive lazy idiotic pigs of biafra terrorist is importation and corruption. |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by franchasng: 8:30am On Jan 10, 2019 |
Goke7:Many people misunderstood President Goodluck's statement that stealing is not corruption. APC used their media propaganda back then to blow it out of proportion. Goodluck was trying to make Nigerians understand that stealing is just an end product of corruption and not the real corruption which I tend to agree. Corruption goes beyond stealing, corruption is a system that produces stealing and other social vices including stealing. When it comes to leadership corruption, it goes beyond stealing which was what Goodluck was trying to make Nigerians understand. Leadership corruption is a systematic approach that involves chains of human systems that connive to perpetrate all manner of evil practices that undermine a nation's growth and development. When a President ignores rule of law and national laid down policies and bi-laws and appoint cabinet members based on his own personal sentiment and perception, that's a greater form of corruption, but in this case the President did not steal but he has started a system that will breed corruption because there won't be balance to checkmate excesses. When a President says I will do this and then turns around to do that, that's corruption because he has reneged on his promise to the people but then, that President didn't steal but he is corrupting the system of leadership through lies, deceit, promise and fail, bigotism and above the law kind of ambience. So if you forget sentiment and partisanship and analyze Goodluck's infamous statement that **stealing is not corruption** you will understand his point. Close the loopholes and corrupt systems that will breed corruption and then stealing will become hard for corrupt people that was Goodluck's ideology with NOI which was the reason why they started bank BVN, NIM, TSA and many others to ensure that corrupt systems that encourage stealing are closed. Nigerians ought to be celebrating Goodluck and Ngozi Okonjo Iweala for BVN and TSA, these two great initiatives from them has helped to reduce and curb stealing in Nigeria. Buhari's approach is to use soldier, EFCC, DSS to be harassing people, that cannot stop or end corruption in any nation, you need to put systems in place to stop and discourage corrupt practices not through guns and bombs |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by Ugosample(m): 8:31am On Jan 10, 2019 |
Do you people understand the concept of the book ![]() Have you read it ![]() So many goats and senseless people in my unfortunate COUNTRY of origin Kagame gives a suggestion and all these e rats are running their mouth ![]() |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by Daymur(m): 8:31am On Jan 10, 2019 |
With this kind of book, NOI has spoken the minds of some Nigerians, while Kagame obviously set forth the thoughts of another section of Nigerians. Either way, it's crystal clear that the coming general elections will be a battle between those who love corruption and those that do not! For me, I will go by the saying that "as you lay your bed, so shall you lie on it" The choice is ours! |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by danot1030: 8:32am On Jan 10, 2019 |
Is only in Nigeria that we have people that defend corruption practices, celebrate people accused of corruption and fight any system that fight corruption. |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by OldBeer: 8:32am On Jan 10, 2019 |
LiveByNight:Kai nairalanders are wicked. Only one like! ![]() I am sure nobody even read it ![]() |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by Mccullum: 8:32am On Jan 10, 2019 |
LiveByNight:Buhari's integrity still standing strong and for the political associates of him, they will surely face the consequences of their actions... Just watch. |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by WORLDPEACE(m): 8:33am On Jan 10, 2019 |
Satan66:Are speaking from a parochial Nigerian perspective or from a worldwide perspective? |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by Ugosample(m): 8:34am On Jan 10, 2019 |
LiveByNight:don't mind these apologists online He only suggested that she writes another book, not that there is something wrong with the book And all of a sudden these dullards are running their mouth |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by tesppidd: 8:35am On Jan 10, 2019*. Modified: 9:15am On Jan 10, 2019 |
Acidosis:In an ideal world yes. But in the Nigerian context selective anti corruption war is still a million times better than not fighting it at all. Nigeria is a special country, call it a zoo like Nnamdi Kanu if you would. I just gave an example with my small sample space which is the company where I work. In most companies in Nigeria people get sacked for exposing fraud. In Nigeria family members insult and criticize their uncles and fathers for not stealing while in government positions. Any government in this country which decides to go against it's members and loyalists gets booted out with a twinkle of an eye. The day Buhari and the EFCC decide to go against the Tinubus and the Amaechis who are ALLEGED to be corrupt, that day they begin the process of removing him. The day Buahri decides to send the EFCC against the 60 senators who are on his side, the very next day his impeachment proceedings begin. Stop being in dreamland. Stop thinking you are in an ideal society or in a reasonable society. All of this idea of going after everybody will never work in Nigeria. It will be a pass mark for Buhari if, Out of every 10 he prosecutes 8 are PDP and 2 are APC. When PDP comes they do same. |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by Ugosample(m): 8:38am On Jan 10, 2019 |
QueenEsther1:EXACTLY |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by franchasng: 8:41am On Jan 10, 2019 |
LiveByNight:This is part of what I was saying. Only fools and illiterates believe that Buhari is fighting corruption. Buhari has never fought corruption. His idea of fighting corruption is corruption of its own. If Buhari happens to come from civilised nations, he will end up in jail after his tenure but because Nigerians support leaders and politicians based on the tribe he or she comes from and based on his or her religion, Buhari who happens to come from a tribe with highest number of uneducated and unenlightened people and from a religion that goes by the command given to them at the general gathering, who see leadership as their sole way of advancing their religious domination, Buhari therefore enjoys a cult like followership that makes it seem like the wrong things he has been doing are the right things to do. It is only God that knows the truth, and one day, the truth will be made known, one day. |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by Goke7: 8:41am On Jan 10, 2019 |
franchasng:Oga, corruption is so simple to define, no need of long talk, GEJ goofed by making such statement to justify the malpractices happening under his watch. All the BVN and TSA you talked about, GEJ could not implement them fully to avoid the politicians going broke but the full implementation of those procedures is what has created a lot of enemies for PMB among the politicians so what are we talking about. We all need to agree on the right definition of corruption or else we are all jokers. The loopholes you are talking about, if they are all closed, we all including you and I will be up in arms against any govt that will finally block all the loopholes of corruption. It's as simple as making sure every car owner have up to date valid vehicle documents. Are you sure we all are ready for that? |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by franchasng: 8:42am On Jan 10, 2019 |
Goke7:so Buhari implemented BVN ![]() I am done with you sir, have a blessed day |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by chicfarmer: 8:45am On Jan 10, 2019 |
Read NOI's book first, then come back and comment. NOI and Kagame are saying same thing. Okonjo's book highlighted her challenges in fighting corruption and the resistance and even threats she faced from entrenched interests. She was simply saying that corruption must be stopped but don't expect it to be easy. Kagame's comment is a play on words (pun), not a sly dig. People should try and read more, abeg. Everything is not politics. |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by StoneLucifer: 8:46am On Jan 10, 2019 |
Goke7:This is a very big lie. I lived in Rwanda for 3 good years. What u all hear about the country is fallacy owing to the fact that it emerged from a devastating genocide. 90% Rwandese live below poverty line, tax is so high, corruption may not be as high as in Nigeria because in the first place they don't produce anything tangible. Remove Kigali, and I tell u Rwanda is a remote community.. |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by Kusetic(m): 8:47am On Jan 10, 2019 |
Dirkcoyt:The corruption practiced in Nigeria is highly detrimental, plans for infrastructure building would be made and money paid but not a single brick would be laid. They should atleast do the best job possible, then charge ridiculous fees, then it would be a win win situation for the corrupt individuals and the masses. Take for example a world class stadium is built, construction fees and materials would be inflated but it would recouped down the line. Our own politicians dont think like that. |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by danot1030: 8:47am On Jan 10, 2019 |
tesppidd:How i love your comment |
| Re: Not Fighting Corruption Is More Dangerous, Kagame Tell Okonjo Iweala. by Goke7: 8:48am On Jan 10, 2019 |
franchasng:Do you know how much funds are lying idle in many accounts because of BVN implementation? Think of that. Truth is we need to check the dictionary meaning of corruption and not rely on GEJ's definition of corruption if we are serious and want the world to take us serious too. That's the summary of kegame's message. Have a blessed day too. |
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