bLacKGoLd3:


I am a babe in Christ.
I will take a bow at this point so this doesn't descend to insults.

Cheers!

Mariangeles:
Deep!

Dencotext:
In summary Ephesian stated that the war is not against FLESH AND BLOOD but against DEVIL spirits. Please let us be practical. I gave here my experience. Can you give us your experience how you fight this war. If it is a way I can kill my enemies, it would be interesting to know.

Aceed:


if people can die through physical means, tell me why are you insinuating that they can't due through spiritual means

and you have not still answered my question of how you deal with unrepentant enemies?

Dencotext:
You do not do anything to unrepented enemies (they cannot touch you spiritually when you are covered by the BLOOD of CHRIST). And again no human being is your enemy; the devil is your enemy. So you simply deliver your unrepented enemies whenever the opportunity arises by demonstrating the power of God. I SEE THAT IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO WASH AWAY THIS HUMAN ENEMY CONSPIRACY THEORY AWAY FROM YOUR MIND UNLESS I TYPE IN CAPITAL LETTERS.

If a witch come to you for deliverance, do you know how to do it? This is the gospel of GOODNEWS.

bLacKGoLd3:


Thank you. I am glad you used the bible to try to buttress his experience.

One question - did they OVERCOME BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB because they used the "Blood of Jesus" in warfare or because Jesus Christ defeated Satan at the Cross of Calvary by shedding his Blood for our REDEMPTION?

Aceed:



you don't do anything

okay what happens during spiritual warfare and what is the sword of the spirit used for, if it doesn't kill or maim

Aceed:



you don't do anything

okay what happens during spiritual warfare and what is the sword of the spirit used for, if it doesn't kill or maim

Dencotext:
Yes you do not do anything negative to your fellow human being. If they attack you using satanic powers, Oh MY GOD, it is the time to demonstrate the power of God against the devil, not them. You must neutralize the devil using the SWORD for attack by using the name of JESUS, and you must also DEFEND yourself in case you have any sin in you by using the blood of JESUS.

Mind you in the battle field, ask chess players or footballers, defense is your greatest asset when you try to attack, or you will be finished. If I was covered by the blood of JESUS in the beginning, those cult guys would not have walked into the room. Just as you noted, they were monitoring me till the coast was clear for the attack. And how can I attack them, if I was living in sin? The devil may not touch me if I shouted JESUS, but neither will he leave if I was living in sin. My house would be comfortable for him to linger longer. NOW THAT YOU ASKED, I CAN NOW EXPLAIN HOW THE BLOOD OF JESUS WORKS FOR US.

chess players people who know how to strategize well but have never give to war... go and ask any soldier the best defence is a good (winning) offence... heard it on TV when some people from the US forces were interviewed about a fight they won.

Dencotext:
In your previous post you wrote that the devil aid them or they are using the devils power. When you defeat the devil, what would happen to the person that is using the power? They become powerless and surrender. I WATCHED ON YOUTUBE WHEN SOME BABALAWO guys attacked a church and were conjuring outside because of land dispute. The pastor went outside and battle with them spiritually. The end result was that they all fell to the ground and started manifesting; none of them died. I have never heard of witches collapsing and dying in the church. They may collapse, but they do not die. Why because the devil is defeated in them, and must bow and leave. What did the Church do? I guess they did not kill these babalawos with knives and cutlasses because they collapsed... but they were taken into the church and laid beside the altar. Guess what happened next...DELIVERANCE.

I AM SORRY THE CHURCH OF JESUS NOWADAYS DO NOT KNOW THEIR AUTHORITY AND WHAT GOD WANTS THEM TO DO AND NOT TO DO OR BE CONCERNED WITH.

Aceed:


you're putting words to my post, who said witches die in churches or that the warfare was physical with sticks and sorts?

so what you're telling me is that satanic human agents can't or don't die because of our prayers against them?

and you saying we do nothing against an unrepentant enemy on the warfront still get as e be

Aceed:


you're putting words to my post, who said witches die in churches or that the warfare was physical with sticks and sorts?

so what you're telling me is that satanic human agents can't or don't die because of our prayers against them?

and you saying we do nothing against an unrepentant enemy on the warfront still get as e be

Dencotext:
I did not mean to insult you. But it had been a frustrating argument as if the WORD of God was divided against its own self. We understand in part, nobody knows all, so that is why we are here to share knowledge. That incidence happened to me in 1990 for instance and we are in 2019.

CHEERS man! We learned from each other. I will take time to study every thing you wrote and others. Lets keep the fire burning for JESUS.

Dencotext:
I asked you, how can they attack you? You said by using satanic powers. So who is attacking you now... satan or man? And why do you keep calling man your enemy?

ayam not understanding you again ooo

satan is our enemy
a human who refused the life option Good gave every man, then decided to work with the devil against me and my Lord Jesus and you say he's not an enemy?

see I can't even continue this argument the One who has started this good work in us will perform it until the day of Christ

Dencotext:
You really have forced my hand to tell you the truth. If you do not change your mindset to consider that satan is your true enemy and not any man, on the judgement day of God you will be highly disappointed by your own works. The kingdom of God has come, and you must start living it on earth. The kingdom is about LOVE. You must also love yours ENEMIES, even those that can kill you physically but cannot destroy your spirit. I tell you whom to fear... fear God and be very careful about insulting and cursing or wishing or praying bad against things that do not concerns you. This kind of attitude is antigod and not befitting for those who will go to heaven. IN HEAVEN YOU MUST LIVE WITH YOUR FELLOW MAN IN PEACE, LOVE AND HARMONY.

In fact it is gospel to allow your human enemies to kill you physically if they so wished, just to make heaven. If you missed heaven for any reason, the repercussion would be so great. I have seen hellfire and my mother also have been taken to heaven and hellfire... I will discuss those visions soon. The time is so short to worry over these enemy things that constitutes nothing to your salvation. You need to focus more on praising and worshiping God, and living holy lives, and God would take care of HIS business and fight your battles. God says...THE BATTLE IS THE LORD'S.

so you know that the Bible says we should live our enemies, which means we have enemies both satan, demons and HUMANS, why are you now saying that a human can't be our enemy

what you're trying to say is for example in the parable of the wheat and tares, Lord Jesus spoke about, that the tares were not the enemies of the wheats, tares that were planted to truncate the growth of the wheat, haba na

yes the battle is the Lord's, why is the blame now on me when a person dies in answers to my prayers?

Aceed:


ayam not understanding you again ooo

satan is our enemy
a human who refused the life option Good gave every man, then decided to work with the devil against me and my Lord Jesus and you say he's not an enemy?

see I can't even continue this argument the One who has started this good work in us will perform it until the day of Christ

Dencotext:
I tell you in black and white...a demon possessed person is not your enemy. The devils in them or the devils in the world are your enemies. You must seek to cast them out at any given opportunity. Although the demoniac man was bonded with many chains, Jesus simply walked up to him and cast the devils out. The next day he was clothed in fine linen and eating food.

See I will mock your myopic thinking for the first time. The witches you think you are fighting against are mostly found in the churches beside you, not in the villages. When the church refuses to conduct deliverance for those possessed church members, and concentrate on preaching pleasant gospel to the ears, and raising prayer topics that shift attention from binding satan and casting him out, to killing human enemies so that they do not touch your material wealth... iniquities shall abound.

In 1989 and 1990 when we conduct night vigils in churches in Nigeria, we really pray all night till dawn against satan. This was how we prayed 1. binding satan and casting him out
2. loosing people from his grips
3. and destroying all his works
we never kill witches or wizards or engaged in fruitless exercises... this method of thinking was not known then. We get instant results because the devil send his agents to challenge us immediately, to burn our churches, to attack us while we are at worship. Nobody challenges today churches because the devil is comfortable in thre because they are not bruising him. But after we have labored and today the Nigerian Christian population have grown.... not a single night vigil is spent on wrestling with the devil till dawn, the night period that satanic forces kill people and drink blood. Have you heard the name PRAYER BAND before? Our prayer meeting was to stay awake with the devil till morning wrestling with him. THIS WOULD BE A STRANGE CONCEPT TO TODAY'S CHRISTIANS. But you guys spend all night in church, which even hardly happen again anyway, praying for wealth and prosperity and against human enemies dying. WHO IS YOUR ENEMY? The devil is your enemy; if you do not checkmate him (see what is happening in NIGERIA today) the devil would use the unbelievers who are tools in his hand to decimate you. I weep sorely for this lack of knowledge about God we are experiencing today.

Aceed:



Thank God

nnamdiosu:
Proverbs 17: 14: Starting a quarrel is like opening a floodgate, so stop before a dispute breaks out.

Permit me to speak like a foolish and ignorant person. I have 3 things to say, and after that I'll hold my peace entirely on this matter.
Thank you.


Number one
The issue of Christianity is one that an entire generation can never understand it fully. Apostle Paul, that is regarded as one of the annionted new testament writers, never ever spoke about using the blood of Jesus, or holy ghost fire as a weapon. But now, in this our generation, it is a common affair, constantly been used by even winners most times. Imagine if someone had told him (during his time on earth), to pray using holy ghost fire. Only God knows what he would have said.

What am I am trying to say is that No one holds the monopoly with knowledge, especially on spiritual matters. If a brother passes an observation, belief or doctrine, ESPECIALLY WHEN HE CLAIMS CAME FROM AN ENCOUNTER OR REVELATION, YOU ARE FREE TO DROP YOUR POINT OR BELIEF AND MOVE ON. Stop stressing and re stressing your point. MATURITY (BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPIRITUAL) SUGGESTS OVERLOOKING SOME THINGS, EVEN WHEN YOU ARE RIGHT.


number 2

James 4:1
What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you?


When you have a revelation, and you drop it and it is being challenged or critiqued, its pride that keeps you coming back to defend it or prove a point. First, everyone has a right to challenge, but if the revelation you gave is true and from God, then allow God to defend it. And let the matter died a normal death.


Number 3.
Unfortunately, my actions might be misunderstood. And I apologise again for that. But all I said, I said out of love for us, and love for a wonderful thread that was being derailed.
Permit my utterance as a small child that just wants peace between his beloved parents. Pardon me again for my ignorance and foolishness in entering a matter too high for me.

Happy new year (I believe this is my first post this year)
May God bless us. Amen

nnamdiosu:
Proverbs 17: 14: Starting a quarrel is like opening a floodgate, so stop before a dispute breaks out.

Permit me to speak like a foolish and ignorant person. I have 3 things to say, and after that I'll hold my peace entirely on this matter.
Thank you.


Number one
The issue of Christianity is one that an entire generation can never understand it fully. Apostle Paul, that is regarded as one of the annionted new testament writers, never ever spoke about using the blood of Jesus, or holy ghost fire as a weapon. But now, in this our generation, it is a common affair, constantly been used by even winners most times. Imagine if someone had told him (during his time on earth), to pray using holy ghost fire. Only God knows what he would have said.

What am I am trying to say is that No one holds the monopoly with knowledge, especially on spiritual matters. If a brother passes an observation, belief or doctrine, ESPECIALLY WHEN HE CLAIMS CAME FROM AN ENCOUNTER OR REVELATION, YOU ARE FREE TO DROP YOUR POINT OR BELIEF AND MOVE ON. Stop stressing and re stressing your point. MATURITY (BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPIRITUAL) SUGGESTS OVERLOOKING SOME THINGS, EVEN WHEN YOU ARE RIGHT.


number 2

James 4:1
What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you?


When you have a revelation, and you drop it and it is being challenged or critiqued, its pride that keeps you coming back to defend it or prove a point. First, everyone has a right to challenge, but if the revelation you gave is true and from God, then allow God to defend it. And let the matter died a normal death.


Number 3.
Unfortunately, my actions might be misunderstood. And I apologise again for that. But all I said, I said out of love for us, and love for a wonderful thread that was being derailed.
Permit my utterance as a small child that just wants peace between his beloved parents. Pardon me again for my ignorance and foolishness in entering a matter too high for me.

Happy new year (I believe this is my first post this year)
May God bless us. Amen

solomonbrown64:

.... That book is all shades of wrong....the book makes it seem like the kingdom of God is no match for the kingdom of darkness....a book that paralyses one with fear and make it seem like there is no hope... That is not the feeling I get when I read other books by anointed men of God...I won't advise any Christian to such a book especially baby ones.

bLacKGoLd3:


Hello Friend,

I read your post twice and there was a clear distinction between both - you should read it yourself.

The fact of the matter is that the "Blood of Jesus" is a covering for SIN only (a better offering than the lamb slain in the Old Testament for Sin offering) and not a weapon of warfare nor protection. The "Blood of Jesus" is not a covering for your car or properties - that is why you need an INSURANCE policy!

Ephesians 6 tells you all about the weapons of warfare and Hebrews tells you all about the "Blood of Jesus". If you wish to get down to the scriptures so we can fact check this then I'd happily oblige you.

CharlyG1:


I haven't read Decontext post yet, but i have to tell you.... The blood of Jesus is also a WEAPON of WARFARE and PROTECTION!

I'm sure you've heard about the Passover.. When the Israelites were instructed to put the blood of a "LAMB" on their doors so that the angel of death would PASS OVER and no harm will be brought to them or their first borns. This became a marked day for celebration. And then Jesus observed the Passover with His disciples, breaking bread and drinking wine.. telling His disciples that the bread was His body and the wine was His blood.. This was about His death. Because the PASSOVER IS ALL ABOUT JESUS.. Just as the Israelites (God's people) were freed from the Egyptian (satanic bondage) in the physical realm, Jesus's death brings great deliverance to God's people in the spiritual realm, by the shedding of His blood... same thing that was done in the Passover by the Israelites.. You see the connection?

God had been speaking subtly all these times in the old testament. John 3:16 says that as many that believe in Jesus they won't perish but have eternal life.. It is the same as "As many that put the blood of the Lamb on their door, death won't touch them"... this is a mirror to the old testament Passover!

Jesus Christ was slain before the foundation of this world. (Revelation 13:..What this means is that God already had a back up plan in the person of Jesus.. And this is subtly shown in many scriptures of the old testament... READ YOUR BIBLE!

The blood of Jesus has become an ultimate weapon in the hands of God's people because of the Ultimate sacrifice (Jesus).

The communion that Christians take is a ritual for empowerment. It is a reminder that we are connected back to the Father, as Children.. so therefore we have the power as sons of God (John 1:11).

Just like witches take flesh and blood for empowerment. Christians do this (when done right)and it strengthens the spirit. Believe it or not.


Personally, I use the blood of Jesus during deliverance sessions, and demons cannot stand it. It is a reminder to them that their victim is released by the reason of that blood (Jesus's death and resurrection), and that person no longer as a covenant with them but with Jesus. Ephesians 1:7

If you still don't understand this after reading this and studying your bible, then i cannot call you a Christian.

God bless you

bLacKGoLd3:



I believe we have over-flogged this topic already so you may be a little too late to the feast.
As advised by Nnamdi and keeping in mind that this discussion has no bearing on our salvation, I'll let this topic pass so that peace may reign.

And, no sir, I don't need your validation to affirm if I'm saved or not.

God bless you.

CharlyG1:


Better late than never.
I'm not in this discussion just because of you.. But also because of others who come here for hardcore gospel truth.
I am happy that we are learning. But there are some things i cannot turn a blind eye to.


If our enemies shed the blood of cows, fowls and even humans to attack the children of God and place yokes on them, then ask yourself this...which blood has been put in place to break all those satanic attacks? If this isn't spiritual warfare, then i wonder what spiritual warfare really is.

God bless you too

bLacKGoLd3:


Ok, good to know. Let's divide the word.

Let me start by saying that when in danger or under an attack, whether you say "Blood of Jesus" or "Jesus" is of little significance since the one who watches over you knows you are calling for help. It is the same way a Mother or Father will attend to a baby pointing at water while uttering gibberish; he or she knows the baby is thirsty and needs a drink. God is a Father.

Let us start from the Passover and the application of the blood of the lamb (Exodus 12).
Why was the angel of death assigned to kill all the FIRSTBORN only? Why not all the sons or all the Egyptians? Why the FIRSTBORN only?
Why did they suddenly need to apply the BLOOD OF THE LAMB when the land of Goshen, where the Israelites dwelled was always excluded from the plagues that befell Egypt? Why this sudden change?

I want us to have this discussion in sections so it's easy for everyone to follow.

CharlyG1:
Hello Guys, pls try not to forget your dreams or visions. Always write them down so you don't forget. For people who hear strange numbers or strange languages in their dreams, do not disregard it. Here is an experience to guide you

I was having a dream one night while at the university. This was about 8yrs ago.
The dream was about the coming of the Antichrist, they were capturing christians, harming them. I cannot remember some of the details of the dream.
But at a point, they gathered many people, as if they were numbering them. Then I heard two numbers 21, 22.
On waking up, i heard some numbers together, it was 36663496.

I woke up, saw a pen and book by my bedside and wrote down these numbers immediately. I didn't understand what these numbers meant at all, it was quite mysterious. But I felt in my spirit that it held an important meaning.

So i wrote down these numbers.. 21 22, then 36663496.
I actually forgot about the 21 & 22.. The 36663496 struck me hard because it was an 8 digit number, so i felt if i should add 080, it wud be a complete gsm number. So i did that, then called the number. I was curious to know who it was, was it the antichrist? Lol. The number seemed suspicious. Lol.
So I called, i heard an angry tone on the line that said, 'Who is this!!. Then I cut the call sharp sharp.

You see, when God gives a revelation, never take out any detail of dat dream no matter how stupid it may look or seem. Write everything down.
I left my case unsolved for for about 5years more, until God started teaching me some things, meaning of numbers thru His word etc.. After some hard research & spiritual growth. I was now able to solve the mysterious numbers. What could they mean?

The number 21 & 22 i heard in the dream was a key(expo) to solving the mystery numbers but i was negligent back then.

3666=21, 3496=22
3= godhead(satanic Rev 13), 3=Godhead
666=Antichrist , 4=Creation
9=judgement
6= man/earth
Interpretation= the coming of the Antichrist will take place b4 God's final judgement on earth. This was actually what the dream was talking about. This is actually true & evident in the book of Revelation If you read from chapters 13 to the last chapter in the book.

Now 21 represents= chaos & disorder
22 represents= Light.
The book of Revelation has two last chapters which is 21 & 22..

Second interpretation= the coming of the Antichrist marks 'chaos' & 'disorder' on earth.. While
God's judgement on the earth marks 'Light'.. This is exactly what the last 2 chapters of Revelation even says, so the interpretation is balanced.
You see the way God uses numbers? Wow! It's amazing, it's out of this world!

This is just a guide for someone who disregards symbolic, or prophetic dreams. They're not imaginations, I cud never have imagined such. Always ask God to give you interpretations to your dreams & let His Spirit guide you. This is real. God is real . God speaks. He is alive! Hallelujah!