wirinet:


I know, but we are in a very peculiar and precarious position. The legislative and judiary had always been jealous of the total immunity granted the executive ( I also frown at total immunity. the executive should only have administrative immunity and not criminal). So the legislative and judiciary have found a loophole to grab total immunity also.

The problem is the CJN and the judiciary are ready to blackmail the whole country to enforce that total immunity on judicial officers.

It cannot work. Their plot will fail.

The President(Buhari), Miyetti Allah Fulani Herdsmen and all 4 + 4 Adherents are wrong with Nigeria, because they know nothing about Democracy.
Onnoghen is a good man otherwise the Presidency should have been sued for various Contempt.
The President committed similar Contempt on Saraki by violating the Independence of the Legislature. Saraki should have gathered muscle to impeach Buhari on this singular issue but for his 46 Conspiratory Allies in The Senate.

why people will see an obvious truth and pretend baffles me.
is it not obvious that there is a sinister motive behind the cJN imbroglio.
the timing,the speed and alacrity and the people behind it leaves much to be desired.
whether they are right or wrong to me is now not the issue,the issue is,is there any altruism behind what they are trying to do?

docadams:


Upgrade please. I am not a lawyer, but having the opportunity to listen to some of the best in the profession, there arose one unanimity amongst them. That issue is members of the bench are categorized either as either judicial officers or public officers as the case may be. Offences committed as a judicial officer goes to the NJC, while those committed as a public officer goes to the courts. Ngwuta committed an offence in the course of dispensing justice i.e he comnitted an offence as a judicial officer. This falls under the NJC. The CJN offence wasn't committed in the course of dispensing justice but while performing a function as a public officer.
All what you staked your life on yesterday never came to pass. A govt can't bring

Ngwuta was standing trial by the EFCC .Get your facts right.No judicial officer can be tried without recourse to the NJC

wirinet:


I know, but we are in a very peculiar and precarious position. The legislative and judiary had always been jealous of the total immunity granted the executive ( I also frown at total immunity. the executive should only have administrative immunity and not criminal). So the legislative and judiciary have found a loophole to grab total immunity also.

The problem is the CJN and the judiciary are ready to blackmail the whole country to enforce that total immunity on judicial officers.

Please speak for yourself and your fellow zombies and not for the whole country.Popular public opinion is for the CJN

JusticeSeeker:
The lawyers that brainstormed to produce charges against Onoghen are wonderful brains. They carefully avoided any charge that will mention or relate to administrative/judicial misconduct thereby making the case purely that of a public officer infracting the laws of the land. If not, here we are with a CJN that has close to 1 billion in his foreign accounts which amounts to unlawful enrichment. Kudos to them.

VERY FUNNY.THE CASE IS DOA!!! TOMORROW JANUARY 17 THE FEDERAL HIGH COURT ABUJA WILL COMPLETELY STOP THE TRIAL CITING THE LAGOS APPEAL COURT RULING

wirinet:


I don't think the lawyers went about it the right way. I feel they should have made the case both public officer and judicial/administrative misconduct. They should have first pursued the admistrative/judicial case at the NJC (even though they know the NJC trial would be a farce), and also pursue the public office misconduct at the CCT. They should waited a few months (and see how long the NJC would drag it's feet as they usually do in cases concerning it's officers), before dragging the CJN to the CCT.

They way they are going about it, all of the judiciary and the opposition party would vehemently defend the CJN. They are even prepared to launch this country into a judicial crisis. Most senior lawyers having case at the supreme Court or intending to go to the supreme Court will not want to be seen as being against the CJN.

AM GLAD YOU GET SMALL SENSE.I BET YOU THE CJN WILL NEVER APPEAR BEFORE THE CCT.A HIGHER COURT WILL COMPETELY THROW OUT TEH CHARGES CITING THE LAGOS APPEAL COURT RULING.

LIKE YOU SAID THE JUDICIARY WILL DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST EXECUTIVE BULLYING.YES THEY WILL ALL WORK TOGETHER TO FRUSTRATE THE TRIAL.WHY DID YOU THINK THE EFCC HAVE NOT YET GONE TO THE SUPREME COURT TO APPEAL AGAINST THE RULING OF THE LAGOS DIVISION OF THE APPEAL COURT? BEACUSE THE OUTCOME IS VERY OBVIOUS

Nigeria is fvvked by The Fulanis and The Military among them.
The Yorubas and The Igbos(Ibos) were aground before The Fulanis migrated in to mix with The Hausas. Why should the Fulanis now want to occupy others' lands and corrupt their Cultures?
There was no Civil Law when the Europeans invaded America. There is Civilization now in every Culture and Tribe so The Fulanis should keep off Yoruba, Igbos, Tivs, Ijaws, Ibibios, sw, se, ss, cs and other Climes where the people protest.
The President(Buhari) is wrong with Nigeria because he is deliberately refusing to reorganize the Nigeria's 36 Constitutional States the way the people want.

duncun:
You suddenly realised that Nigeria can never change, Maybe you're crawling out from your cave, but let me remind you that we have big-wigs politicians under this APC government that have had corruption cases the likes of Akpabio ,Osho, Kalu, Ganduje.and co, you know what? they all found love and peace under the solemn hands of this administration. Now you see the wreck everyone is in.

Mind you I am apolitical. I belong to no political party but I belong to the party to get called Nigeria. Anything that will make Nigeria good better and best among committee of nations is what I canvass for. A situation where a sitting chief judge of a whole country is alleged to have his hand soiled speaks no well for our nation. How do you want me or even you to have trust in that same court that will determine my case. Bro it’s not about party it’s about doing and saying the right thing to make my dear country better.
It is only when we have a fair umpire in the court of law that we all can have faith in such court .

JusticeSeeker:
This case has no bearing in anyway with the NJC. The judiciary has created immunity for herself when the constitution has not done that for them.

allow the judiciary to interpret the laws.Its their job.

lezan:


Mind you I am apolitical. I belong to no political party but I belong to the party to get called Nigeria. Anything that will make Nigeria good better and best among committee of nations is what I canvass for. A situation where a sitting chief judge of a whole country is alleged to have his hand soiled speaks no well for our nation. How do you want me or even you to have trust in that same court that will determine my case. Bro it’s not about party it’s about doing and saying the right thing to make my dear country better.
It is only when we have a fair umpire in the court of law that we all can have faith in such court .

very well then.They should take the case to the NJC so we can be sure the CJN is clean.BTW the CJN is not been accused of soiling his hands.Stop manufacturing allegations.

PaChukwudi44:


very well then.They should take the case to the NJC so we can be sure the CJN is clean.BTW the CJN is not been accused of soiling his hands.Stop manufacturing allegations.

Did you say NJC? You need to find out who the chairperson of NJC is. Can a man be a judge in his own case. The man already said he forgot to declare and ignorant they say is no excuse in law. Don’t forget the position of CJ is till he retires...are we then gonna wait till that time before he can be tried. All these are the reasons I give up on Nigeria and the so called National Assembly will not do anything about that section of the constitution to correct it

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JusticeSeeker:
To my greatest surprise, the so called learned people who are the middlemen in bribe giving and taking in the judiciary are all talking about nonsense procedure-that Onoghen should be reported to NJC first. One even called for the punishment of the lawyer that is representing the FG in the case saying he isn't abreast of justice position on judges' discipline and I ask, if a judge slaughters a man now, must he be reported to the NJC who will take more than a year before commencing sitting over the case? Thereafter they will determine whether the judge should be prosecuted or not before prosecution will commence? Is this what these so called learned people are saying? Another barrister said the judge that delivered that judgement they are trying to take cover in never gave a blanket ruling. He said it's not in all cases that judges will be reported to the NJC. To me it appears as if those SANs are LAZY, failing to read that judgement so as to comprehend it.

To my greatest surprise u don't seem to know the difference between a criminal case and a civil case so your comparison is totally baseless,go find out then use your gumption this time

lezan:

Did you say NJC? You need to find out who the chairperson of NJC is. Can a man be a judge in his own case. The man already said he forgot to declare and ignorant they say is no excuse in law. Don’t forget the position of CJ is till he retires...are we then gonna wait till that time before he can be tried. All these are the reasons I give up on Nigeria and the so called National Assembly will not do anything about that section of the constitution to correct it

The constitution says go through the NJC you are here spewing rubbish.The law is the law and must be obeyed.

BTW who told you that the NJC cant investigate the CJN because he is their chairman.Is he the only member of the NJC.He must have to recuse himself as chairman during the period of the investigation.

PaChukwudi44:

The constitution says go through the NJC you are here spewing rubbish.The law is the law and must be obeyed.

BTW who told you that the NJC cant investigate the CJN because he is their chairman.Is he the only member of the NJC.He must have to recuse himself as chairman during the period of the investigation.

Since you know the constitution so well... pls it will do us much good if you can quote that part of constitution...
The only thing the so called lawyers defending the CJN are referring to was an appeal court judgement and that is in the line of the duty of a judge... but in this case, the CJN is a public servant that refused to do what other public servants do and he can only be tried by a special court created by the law for that purpose...If a judge peradventure commits a murder would the law have to wait for the NJC to determine if he really commits the offense before he can be tried?

Secondly let’s have a healthy argument and don’t resolve to name calling. Make your point and move on... no be fight.

lezan:


Since you know the constitution so well... pls it will do us much good if you can quote that part of constitution...
The only thing the so called lawyers defending the CJN are referring to was an appeal court judgement and that is in the line of the duty of a judge... but in this case, the CJN is a public servant that refused to do what other public servants do and he can only be tried by a special court created by the law for that purpose...If a judge peradventure commits a murder would the law have to wait for the NJC to determine if he really commits the offense before he can be tried?

Secondly let’s have a healthy argument and don’t resolve to name calling. Make your point and move on... no be fight.

if you want to contest the appeal court judgement then go to the supreme court.BTW the appeal court judgement was not just in the line of judicial duty.It explicitly stated no judicial officer can be prosecuted for any crime whatsoever without recourse to the NJC



POWERS OF THE NATIONAL JUDICIAL COUNCIL

By the provision of Paragraph 21 of Part One of the Third Schedule to the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, as amended; The National Judicial Council shall have the power to:
a.recommend to the President from among the list of persons submitted to it by - the Federal Judicial Service Commission, persons for appointment to the Offices of the Chief Justice of Nigeria, the Justices of the Supreme Court, the President and Justices of the Court of Appeal, the Chief Judge and Judges of the Federal High Court, and the Judicial Service Committee of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja; persons for appointment to the Offices of the Chief Judge and Judges of the High Court of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja, the Grand Kadi and Kadis of the Sharia Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja and the President and Judges of the Customary Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja;
b.recommend to the President the removal from Office of the Judicial Officers specified in sub-paragraph (a) of this paragraph, and to exercise disciplinary control over such Officers;
c.recommend to the Governors from among the list of persons submitted to it by the State Judicial Service Commission persons for appointment to the Offices of the Chief Judges of the States and Judges of the High Courts of the States, the Grand Kadis and Kadis of the Sharia Courts of Appeal of the States; and President and Judges of the Customary Courts of Appeal of the States;
d.recommend to the Governors the removal from office of the Judicial Officers specified in sub-paragraph (c) of this paragraph, and to exercise disciplinary control over such officers;
e.collect, control and disburse all moniess, Capital and Recurrent, for the Judiciary;
f.advise the President and Governors in any matter pertaining to the judiciary as may be referred to the Council by the President or the Governors;
g.appoint, dismiss and exercise disciplinary control over Members and Staff of the Council;
h.control and disburse all monies, Capital and Recurrent, for the services of the Council; and
i.deal with all other matters relating to broad issues of policy and administration.
j.The Secretary of the Council shall be appointed by the National Judicial Council on the recommendation of the Federal Judicial Service Commission and shall be a Legal Practitioner.”
https://njc.gov.ng/profile-of-NJC