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KingOfAllIgbos:


Would you want a chest-beater and a coward to be in charge of the nation's security ?

post=75103079:
Another thoughtful article..........

SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now barely 3 weeks to another election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

I really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

I've learnt not to bother myself anymore to avoid unnecessary abuse from nonentities . As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it.
Ka Chineke mezie okwu. 

END OF DISCUSSION.
Dr Uche

jasonguru:
When only igbos are qualified they will remember quota system, but when it is only hausa people they will only appoint by merit.

Buhari is a terrible bigot!

dolphinife:
Nonsense talks.....are Itshekiri, Urhobo, Isoko, Benin, Annang, Ogoni, And so countless numerous ethnic groups in southern Nigeria are also not worthy to be considered for any top security job? Why are we all fixated on Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa/Fulani? Are they the only ethnic groups in Nigeria? Buratai is not even an Hausa or Fulani man, but kanuri....so why do we always look at political appointments from the basis of 3 ethnic groups?

Are you people mad?

nextstep:
Not appointed by Buhari, so not relevant to this discussion.
He isn't Igbo BTW, he's Egbema from Rivers.

EponOjuku:
Let me tell you guys a true story.

Last year, during the Ipob protests in Aba, the protesters at Ariaria attempted burning down the police station opposite the Ariaria market. The policemen called for reinforcements and a Mopol team was sent to the station.

That Mopol team was headed by an Igbo man and when he got there, instead of him to ask his men to quell the situation, he started making calls and delaying. His men were getting impatient but he asked them to stand down and kept making calls to different people, speaking Igbo language.

Eventually, he pulled his men out and that station was burnt with a policeman killed. In fact, when the Ipob protesters killed the policeman, they were rejoicing until it was revealed later on that the late policeman was from Imo state and also igbo. That's when they became sober. If he wasn't Igbo, they wouldn't have cared. The death of the policeman was here on Nairaland and many Igbos supporting Ipob were applauding it here on Nairaland.

The truth is that for most Igbos, primordial sentiments overcome logic and in political decisions, you can't joke with the loyalty of your security chiefs. Election is coming and you want an Igbo IGP? These guys think Buhari is daft.

Hope you guys remember that Evans the Igbo kidnapper was once arrested in Imo and was released by the Igbo CP before he was arrested again in Lagos.

Until we get Igbos like Dora Akunyili in the Police, Igbos can forget being the IGP. The position of IGP is not anyone's right, it's a political rank. Show commitment and loyalty to the Government of the day and you would get much more than IGP position.

The police force won't be run the way you guys ran Diamond Bank. Paschal Dozie the father of that lmbecile called Uzoma Dozie can explain better to you in Igbo.

Igbos don't deserve anything and they won't get anything till they align. They can cry all they want, but that is the bitter truth. Sensible Igbos have said this same thing I'm saying but the vast majority of policically daft ones shout them down.

Please, try to read this thread below and see the comments of Igbos. Thereafter, judge if they deserve anything.
https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan#9019830

post=75103079:
Another thoughtful article..........

SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now barely 3 weeks to another election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

I really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

I've learnt not to bother myself anymore to avoid unnecessary abuse from nonentities . As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it.
Ka Chineke mezie okwu. 

END OF DISCUSSION.
Dr Uche

SEONaijaExpert:
My problem with some Igbo activist is that they always think you owe them something.

Like wherever they are, they always want to dominate the place and it's not possible.

For example, I saw one ignoramus celebrating Buhari's acclaimed campaign flop in Enugu and when Buhari enters again for the second term the same person would be the first to be shouting marginalization...Igbo's are not appointed... President Buhari is a tribalist and all nonsense conclusions, the question is...

What have you contributed?

What did you do to support the system?

I find it hard to believe some people will open their mouth and claim dominance in a place they never sowed.

Uglymugg:
So angry that he stammered

VULCAN:
When a person blows big grammar but goes off point it is a double tragedy.

The question is a simple one yet not only did you fail to answer it, you displayed crass ignorance about how a professional army is run.

The question is are Igbo officers not good enough for appointment?

The only tenable answers are

Yes
No
I don't know

Instead of answering you went off tangent which is the norm for a BMC and politicised military postings.

A president who determines which officer to promote based on whether the zone the officer belongs voted for him is nothing short of an illiterate.

Oh I forgot. Buhari can't find his waec

RTSC:
Which buhari appointee can be compared to prof chike obi of AMCON, Dora akunyili of NAFdac, onyuike okereke of the SEC, Ngozi iweala of the ministry of finance and Prof Barth Nnaji in the ministry of power?
Compare them to their current replacements and weep for your backwardness.

EponOjuku:
Let me tell you guys a true story.

Last year, during the Ipob protests in Aba, the protesters at Ariaria attempted burning down the police station opposite the Ariaria market. The policemen called for reinforcements and a Mopol team was sent to the station.

That Mopol team was headed by an Igbo man and when he got there, instead of him to ask his men to quell the situation, he started making calls and delaying. His men were getting impatient but he asked them to stand down and kept making calls to different people, speaking Igbo language.

Eventually, he pulled his men out and that station was burnt with a policeman killed. In fact, when the Ipob protesters killed the policeman, they were rejoicing until it was revealed later on that the late policeman was from Imo state and also igbo. That's when they became sober. If he wasn't Igbo, they wouldn't have cared. The death of the policeman was here on Nairaland and many Igbos supporting Ipob were applauding it here on Nairaland.

The truth is that for most Igbos, primordial sentiments overcome logic and in political decisions, you can't joke with the loyalty of your security chiefs. Election is coming and you want an Igbo IGP? These guys think Buhari is daft.

Hope you guys remember that Evans the Igbo kidnapper was once arrested in Imo and was released by the Igbo CP before he was arrested again in Lagos.

Until we get Igbos like Dora Akunyili in the Police, Igbos can forget being the IGP. The position of IGP is not anyone's right, it's a political rank. Show commitment and loyalty to the Government of the day and you would get much more than IGP position.

The police force won't be run the way you guys ran Diamond Bank. Paschal Dozie the father of that lmbecile called Uzoma Dozie can explain better to you in Igbo.

Igbos don't deserve anything and they won't get anything till they align. They can cry all they want, but that is the bitter truth. Sensible Igbos have said this same thing I'm saying but the vast majority of policically daft ones shout them down.

Please, try to read this thread below and see the comments of Igbos. Thereafter, judge if they deserve anything.
https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan#9019830

EponOjuku:
Let me tell you guys a true story.

Last year, during the Ipob protests in Aba, the protesters at Ariaria attempted burning down the police station opposite the Ariaria market. The policemen called for reinforcements and a Mopol team was sent to the station.

That Mopol team was headed by an Igbo man and when he got there, instead of him to ask his men to quell the situation, he started making calls and delaying. His men were getting impatient but he asked them to stand down and kept making calls to different people, speaking Igbo language.

Eventually, he pulled his men out and that station was burnt with a policeman killed. In fact, when the Ipob protesters killed the policeman, they were rejoicing until it was revealed later on that the late policeman was from Imo state and also igbo. That's when they became sober. If he wasn't Igbo, they wouldn't have cared. The death of the policeman was here on Nairaland and many Igbos supporting Ipob were applauding it here on Nairaland.

The truth is that for most Igbos, primordial sentiments overcome logic and in political decisions, you can't joke with the loyalty of your security chiefs. Election is coming and you want an Igbo IGP? These guys think Buhari is daft.

Hope you guys remember that Evans the Igbo kidnapper was once arrested in Imo and was released by the Igbo CP before he was arrested again in Lagos.

Until we get Igbos like Dora Akunyili in the Police, Igbos can forget being the IGP. The position of IGP is not anyone's right, it's a political rank. Show commitment and loyalty to the Government of the day and you would get much more than IGP position.

The police force won't be run the way you guys ran Diamond Bank. Paschal Dozie the father of that lmbecile called Uzoma Dozie can explain better to you in Igbo.

Igbos don't deserve anything and they won't get anything till they align. They can cry all they want, but that is the bitter truth. Sensible Igbos have said this same thing I'm saying but the vast majority of policically daft ones shout them down.

Please, try to read this thread below and see the comments of Igbos. Thereafter, judge if they deserve anything.
https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan#9019830

Isobug:
Oga how, Didn't Onovo and Okiro do well ?

SEONaijaExpert:
My problem with some Igbo activist is that they always think you owe them something.

Like wherever they are, they always want to dominate the place and it's not possible.

For example, I saw one ignoramus celebrating Buhari's acclaimed campaign flop in Enugu and when Buhari enters again for the second term the same person would be the first to be shouting marginalization...Igbo's are not appointed... President Buhari is a tribalist and all nonsense conclusions, the question is...

What have you contributed?

What did you do to support the system?

I find it hard to believe some people will open their mouth and claim dominance in a place they never sowed.

KingOfAllIgbos:

If brave Hausa and Yoruba can't handle Boko Haram in 2 states.....

If coward flattinos are in charge, Shekau would be in Aso Rock at this moment.

Deep down you, you know this. Kedu

oooduancalmdown:
Story! Tell me how many Yorubas Jonathan appointed in his term.
Yett you fault.heads were supporting him. Most of you even hailed him for marginalizing Yoruba people.

https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan#9019830

Buhari till 2023

RTSC:
Yes.
I am sure your national sports teams dominated by the igbo nation are also saboteurs.

Clown.

jasonguru:
When only igbos are qualified they will remember quota system, but when it is only hausa people they will only appoint by merit.

Buhari is a terrible bigot!

Uzorsudoku:
domination is in the blood of most tribes.stop twisting truth.

SEONaijaExpert:
My problem with some Igbo activist is that they always think you owe them something.

Like wherever they are, they always want to dominate the place and it's not possible.

For example, I saw one ignoramus celebrating Buhari's acclaimed campaign flop in Enugu and when Buhari enters again for the second term the same person would be the first to be shouting marginalization...Igbo's are not appointed... President Buhari is a tribalist and all nonsense conclusions, the question is...

What have you contributed?

What did you do to support the system?

I find it hard to believe some people will open their mouth and claim dominance in a place they never sowed.