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ibrahimovic303:
Wow just wow...I live in Finland myself and always visit Stockholm via Viking Cruise, I never knew it is like that there. This means that these are generally easier here in Finland, because e.g with our local drivers license from Naija, we can get Finnish temporary license immediately and after verification, the original can be obtained in some months...lol no wonder Finns don’t like Swedes one bit lol

i thought people from finland are called finish?

keryj:
And who wouldn't want to die there than staying with this lots in Naija

So this one has changed her pics

Rextizz:
So this one has changed her pics

Is there any issue with that?

Stewart83:
I see alot of Nigerians wanting to move abroad but are unaware of the challenges there,most especially in Europe.

I moved to Sweden in 2006(Although presently in Nigeria now handling some things)At first I loved what I saw - free education, beautiful and abundant nature -even in the cities, well designed communities with plenty of free facilities, many free community activities and a strong commitment to sustainability.

However after living here a few years I began to notice that some things are very wrong and Sweden is not the paradise it appears to be at first glance. Here is my list of the biggest issues as I see them:

Firstly, there is no consumer choice. Generic and expensive goods line the same few large supermarket type shops. Small business is virtually nonexistent aside from the awful pizza/kebab, Asian food or hotdog/ hamburger stalls run by entrepeneurial immigrants. Customer service and special requests are also non existent. Innovation, warmth, product knowledge and creativity are strongly lacking in the commercial sector.

Immigrants are welcomed, with racism frowned upon harshly, however once these immigrants arrive they are segregated off away from the native Swedes, unable to find employment and unable to navigate the endless complex rule systems with strong risks of being persecuted by the social services. The ‘welcoming’ Swedes dont allow their children to set foot in immigrant suburbs or schools, and wonder why there is very little integration happening.

Swedish people are very unfriendly, closed minded and conforming. It is almost impossible to form close friendships.
Winter is like hell. The first few months feel cosy and the snow is beautiful, but eventually the darkness, cold and boredom start wearing you down.

There are endless trivial rules which are harshly enforced. I wanted to get my licence in Sweden, but ticked a box on the licence form which asked about health issues. I have had declining kidney function (very irrelevant to driving) so I noted it down. I was unable to get a licence (I have been driving 15 years, but my Australian licence is not recognised here after the first year) because I needed a certificate from a kidney specialist. I was unable to be referred to a kidney specialist because my kidney function is not severely declined. When attempting to fix the issue - rules are rules, and thats simply the way it is. The issue is unable to be resolved so I am allowed to drive in neighbouring countries, but not here. Attempting to live here is filled with many similar incredibly frustrating experiences. Banks wont let you open an account except on weekday mornings, but dont let you know that until you have waited in a queue for several hours. There is no other option even if you work or study on weekday mornings, and nobody cares. Every simple process is a beaurocratic nightmare

Whilst at first I believed the free schools, childcare and medical services were a great family friendly policy, on closer interaction in the system I realised this is a system of control and incompetence which is not leading to positive outcomes. Firstly, everyone is expected to take their children to daycare and go to work.

There is no freedom of choice to look after your children, homeschool or rear your children according to your beliefs and values. Children are informed about endless rights, and have no obligations to behave in a respectful manner. Parents are powerless, teachers are powerless and getting an education in a swedish school is a debacle of children on phones and talking during class, swearing at teachers, abusing and bullying each other and any form of punishment towards unruly children is disallowed. School is somewhat reminiscent of lord of the flies.

Police are useless - except with regard to prosecuting minor crimes such as parking fines. Fewer than 3% of crimes are solved, reports are filed but never investigated - even with matters which are taken very seriously in the rest of the world such as violent crime and rape.

Whilst medical care is generally free to low cost, the wait times are insane. It could be 3 weeks to see your GP (too bad if the matter is urgent) and 10 months to see a specialist. Specialists are allowed to refuse referrals, and if you have a chronic illness you are likely in the wrong country.

So guys if you want to immigrate always think about the Pros & Cons so you won't regret!!!

When are you coming home

keryj:
Is there any issue with that?

No not really, btw are you married yet

It reminds me of the documentary the swedish theory of love

madridguy:


This remind me of the article " it is not always green in abroad " meanwhile, anyhow you can't compare with Nigeria where O.Y.O is the case. Bro, if you're not returning back to Sweden, can I enter for you

bro u wan leave Buhari? I thought Buhari has plans for you

femi4:
When are you coming home

Lol.

You say wah?

Promise them heaven and Earth .ones people don jand ,they don't come home again except for parties and visits

bujebudanu1:
Lol.

You say wah?

Promise them heaven and Earth .ones people don jand ,they don't come home again except for parties and visits

yet he's discouraging people. The fact is the worst challenge you think you are facing there is far better of than the hell called Nigeria

Can I get to eat Fufu and Okro soup in Sweden.

madridguy:


This remind me of the article " it is not always green in abroad " meanwhile, anyhow you can't compare with Nigeria where O.Y.O is the case. Bro, if you're not returning back to Sweden, can I enter for you

You ant to run and leave Naija, thought your government was "working"

Baba forget that talk. All you have said are trivial issues compared to the ills in the Nigerian society. There are Nigerians living fulfilled lives in Sweden, so take a chill pill. Anyway, I'll be glad to replace you if you're tired of staying there.

Blah blah blah! If you're above 20 and by now u still don't know anywhere in the world is better than Nigeria, Then u need A therapeutical Electric shock dose to reset your brain

No mind the OP!

E dey for Stockholm (abi na Gotenborg sef) dey tell us how life dey "bad" for Sweden. Meanwhile, im no wan come back.

Guy, relocate back home first and we will take all this your yarns serious.

mrLj:
Truth be told, that fucking place is still better than 9ja at the moment.

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because of exchange rate regime, if...... 1pound =1naira..... the way Nigerians are emigrating would be drastically reduced

Doing *boy boy job abroad and nothing to show back home

I have been considering relocating to the Europe to work and start a Life over there. Reading all these draws my spirit weak.

One man’s food is another man’s poison. Many wouldn’t mind living in those conditions you mentioned. Having travelled to experience the life in better climes I can say Nigeria is cheap. You can make money and get rich. However, you will use that money to provide basic amenities. In the developed climes, you have the basic amenities but you are taxed, pay heavily for rents and utilities and also goods are expensive. For me. I don’t enjoy living as a third or fourth class citizen.

olioxx:
Bros you sure you nor COPY n PASTE?
That aside, since Sweden nor play you well not come back home?

that's what I keep wondering with our Nigerian brothers and sisters , who continue to complain of hardship and how life abroad isn't as easy. Why not just come back ato stay in Nigeria?

Gerrard59:
https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-bad-things-about-Sweden

Like I knew sef.

Lobatan...dem catch am straight

This reminds me of the saying, "The grass is not always greener on the other side, it's greener where you water it"

The same country wey men dey do cleaning jobs; 6 hours a day and 5 days a week.

And you go still save clean 500k naira a month. After paying your bills and flexing.

Na oversabi go make you need car for Sweden self. Their transportation system reliable 24/7.

keryj:
And who wouldn't want to die there than staying with this lots in Naija

Be careful what you wish for...

Nigeria is not that hard believe me, and unless you experience the outside world yourself, you'll never value the freedom you have here as a first class citizen

Stewart83:
I see alot of Nigerians wanting to move abroad but are unaware of the challenges there,most especially in Europe.

I moved to Sweden in 2006(Although presently in Nigeria now handling some things)At first I loved what I saw - free education, beautiful and abundant nature -even in the cities, well designed communities with plenty of free facilities, many free community activities and a strong commitment to sustainability.

However after living here a few years I began to notice that some things are very wrong and Sweden is not the paradise it appears to be at first glance. Here is my list of the biggest issues as I see them:

Firstly, there is no consumer choice. Generic and expensive goods line the same few large supermarket type shops. Small business is virtually nonexistent aside from the awful pizza/kebab, Asian food or hotdog/ hamburger stalls run by entrepeneurial immigrants. Customer service and special requests are also non existent. Innovation, warmth, product knowledge and creativity are strongly lacking in the commercial sector.

Immigrants are welcomed, with racism frowned upon harshly, however once these immigrants arrive they are segregated off away from the native Swedes, unable to find employment and unable to navigate the endless complex rule systems with strong risks of being persecuted by the social services. The ‘welcoming’ Swedes dont allow their children to set foot in immigrant suburbs or schools, and wonder why there is very little integration happening.

Swedish people are very unfriendly, closed minded and conforming. It is almost impossible to form close friendships.
Winter is like hell. The first few months feel cosy and the snow is beautiful, but eventually the darkness, cold and boredom start wearing you down.

There are endless trivial rules which are harshly enforced. I wanted to get my licence in Sweden, but ticked a box on the licence form which asked about health issues. I have had declining kidney function (very irrelevant to driving) so I noted it down. I was unable to get a licence (I have been driving 15 years, but my Australian licence is not recognised here after the first year) because I needed a certificate from a kidney specialist. I was unable to be referred to a kidney specialist because my kidney function is not severely declined. When attempting to fix the issue - rules are rules, and thats simply the way it is. The issue is unable to be resolved so I am allowed to drive in neighbouring countries, but not here. Attempting to live here is filled with many similar incredibly frustrating experiences. Banks wont let you open an account except on weekday mornings, but dont let you know that until you have waited in a queue for several hours. There is no other option even if you work or study on weekday mornings, and nobody cares. Every simple process is a beaurocratic nightmare

Whilst at first I believed the free schools, childcare and medical services were a great family friendly policy, on closer interaction in the system I realised this is a system of control and incompetence which is not leading to positive outcomes. Firstly, everyone is expected to take their children to daycare and go to work.

There is no freedom of choice to look after your children, homeschool or rear your children according to your beliefs and values. Children are informed about endless rights, and have no obligations to behave in a respectful manner. Parents are powerless, teachers are powerless and getting an education in a swedish school is a debacle of children on phones and talking during class, swearing at teachers, abusing and bullying each other and any form of punishment towards unruly children is disallowed. School is somewhat reminiscent of lord of the flies.

Police are useless - except with regard to prosecuting minor crimes such as parking fines. Fewer than 3% of crimes are solved, reports are filed but never investigated - even with matters which are taken very seriously in the rest of the world such as violent crime and rape.

Whilst medical care is generally free to low cost, the wait times are insane. It could be 3 weeks to see your GP (too bad if the matter is urgent) and 10 months to see a specialist. Specialists are allowed to refuse referrals, and if you have a chronic illness you are likely in the wrong country.

So guys if you want to immigrate always think about the Pros & Cons so you won't regret!!!

Why did you pass it off as a personal experience whereas you copied it from Quora (written by a woman, Renee Gabriella Johnson)? https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-bad-things-about-Sweden

I think Sweden has the highest rape cases in the world.

KevMitnick:
Baba forget that talk. All you have said ate trivial issues compared to the ills in the Nigerian society. There are Nigerians living fulfilled lives in Sweden, so take a chill pill. Anyway, I'll be glad to replace you if you're tired of staying there.

He went there without focus and struggled . He is now generalizing it .. Africans are making it big there. The fact that it didn't work for you doesn't mean its a totally bad place.

sowilli:
One man’s food is another man’s poison. Many wouldn’t mind living in those conditions you mentioned. Having travelled to experience the life in better climes I can say Nigeria is cheap. You can make money and get rich. However, you will use that money to provide basic amenities. In the developed climes, you have the basic amenities but you are taxed, pay heavily for rents and utilities and also goods are expensive. For me. I don’t enjoy living as a third or fourth class citizen.

God bless you.

ibrahimovic303:
Wow just wow...I live in Finland myself and always visit Stockholm via Viking Cruise, I never knew it is like that there. This means that these are generally easier here in Finland, because e.g with our local drivers license from Naija, we can get Finnish temporary license immediately and after verification, the original can be obtained in some months...lol no wonder Finns don’t like Swedes one bit lol

Bros abeg, I want to leave Nigeria,,, getting a Finland visa is it difficult.
What's the minimum wage in Finland .
Can one make it there.
Please, reply a brother.

I am tired of Nigeria.

Murphy123:
The same country wey men dey do cleaning jobs; 6 hours a day and 5 days a week.

And you go still save clean 500k naira a month. After paying your bills and flexing.

Na oversabi go make you need car for Sweden self. Their transportation system reliable 24/7.

The OP even copied the article from another lowlife in quora.