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| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by krushdripper(m): 8:06am On Feb 03, 2019 |
All the countries we desire to go and live in were made better than ours by the citizens of that country. They made use of their heads and put national interest first—because that determines what happens to everyone within the geographical space. I've since understood that 90% of Nigerian citizens have degenerated to animals with human physic (won't be suprised if thier physic starts degenerating too).. One could see five thousand people as just one person cos they all grow to follow after the negative trend, no personality whatsoever, brainless, spineless and fake, only thing they know is how to hurt or oppress thier fellow citizen, a total disgusting waste. 2 Likes |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by kgb101: 8:07am On Feb 03, 2019 |
I also know many people will not read this. They will say it is too long a write up or because he is not rooting for PDP or APC. Please how do we get this message on air in the 3 major languages. Let's try and educate our people. 3 Likes |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by kgb101: 8:10am On Feb 03, 2019 |
John343:They can put an end to it by saying no to the selfish politician when he comes with 500 so he can retain power. 1 Like |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Codes151(m): 8:11am On Feb 03, 2019 |
No sir! It’s we the youths! aishapmbtoto: 1 Like |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Ruddyman(m): 8:11am On Feb 03, 2019 |
i AGREE with you.....But some of us can't be bought....i know who i'm voting for ( AtikuObi for the presidency ) though i'm yet to decide on who to vote for the governortorial ONE 1 Like |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by DonnyT: 8:12am On Feb 03, 2019 |
aishapmbtoto: Nigerian leaders are not foreigner, they’re the product of Nigerian society. So masses are the problem. Nigerians will not vote for a candidate that didn’t bribe them, and you don’t expect someone that spent billions of Naira in campaign to not embezzle public fund when he/she becomes the leader. 1 Like |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by kygo(m): 8:13am On Feb 03, 2019 |
Best ever thread on this forum.. God bless you for speaking the truth... I love this wholely 4 Likes |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Nobody: 8:15am On Feb 03, 2019 |
I stopped hoping for a meaningful turn-around the day I realized that Masses are responsible for 90% of problems plaguing this Nation. The kinds of leaders we see around today are nothing but perfect reflections of what constitutes the general Masses. All I can see are programmable robots, religion and ethnic bigots, blamers and complainers, selfish and greedy citizens, unrepentant hypocrites,... I an afraid things might not work until a very HARD reset is done on our mentality. HOW?... I Have no f**king idea but it can happen. 6 Likes |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Lordave: 8:16am On Feb 03, 2019 |
Achebe didn’t publish that article today, what he saw in the masses then is no more with the masses now. Different strokes for different generations! One has chosen to be irredeemably dumb and enmeshed in BBnaija worthless frenzy. So write your own article and remove that rubbish you talked about Achebe. |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by DonnyT: 8:17am On Feb 03, 2019 |
kygo: Totally agrees with you, I’ve said this times without number that Nigerians are the problem, not the politician. Simple law they won’t obey, ordinary traffic law they won’t comply. They blocked their own streets drainage system and be crying government responsible when the whole neighborhood is flooded. 3 Likes |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by T3amie(m): 8:18am On Feb 03, 2019 |
We need to kick start this public awareness if anything good is going to come from this write up. Social media is killing every Nigerian dream, All we do is follow irrelevant thrends and gossip about our fellow citizens. Enough is Enough to this backwardness, Together we can reunite Nigeria. A society of sheeps would in time beget a government of wolves. That is the case in this country We are in an era of democracy (but fear is still in us) I blame our parents for this fear and our religion for brainwashing everyone not to go out there ND change the nation. #Patriotism #OneNigeria 1 Like |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by HomeOfMe(f): 8:19am On Feb 03, 2019 |
ayukdaboss:Exactly. By them (the useless leaders) zoning the presidency to the north again,the people have no choice but to focus on the two northern candidates,buhari and atiku. The other ones are not from the north,and voting for them is like throwing away our votes. I wish it was possible for us to rebel against their plans and vote for one of those people. 2 Likes |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by akigbemaru: 8:20am On Feb 03, 2019 |
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| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Newboss(m): 8:21am On Feb 03, 2019 |
I'll keep saying it. Nigeria is useless and will remain useless, all thanks to the average Nigerian. So it's the leaders who are harassing people on the road? So it's the leaders who drink sachet water and throws the sachet on the road? So it's the leaders who carry megaphone and be constituting nuisance on the road and bus? So it's the leaders who ask people to pay a certain illegal amount before being served in public offices? So it's the leaders who have no integrity? So it's the leaders who asks people to shake body? So it's the leaders who collect money for marks? So it's the leaders who leave their duty posts to attend church during work hours? So it's the leaders who skip work? So it's the leaders who use toilet without flushing it, even when there's water? So it's the leaders who vandalize public infrastructure? So it's the leaders who are violent cultists? So it's the leaders who violate people who don't agree with them due to religion or sexual orientation? So it's the leaders who demand for bribe? So it's the leaders who collect money to free the innocent and the guilty (SARS and NPF)? So it's the leaders who... ? ALL OF YOU ARE STUPID! No offense. Those who do the above are on a salary. They don't work for free. If it's leaders who do the above, then all the members of the masses are leaders Nigeria is a bottom to top waste. This kind of waste is one of its kind globally, and looks irredeemable because it's passed on from generation to generation as an inheritance. It's a generational fūck up. We have top to bottom waste all over the world, but not in Nigeria. Be the change you want. Be responsible, you mõron. Government owes you NOTHING! You're the ultimate government  4 Likes |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by hush15: 8:23am On Feb 03, 2019 |
aishapmbtoto: Here is my own 2cents. He is quite right and on point. The problem with nigeria is not just the political class but also the undiscerning masses and due to this, an endlesss cycle that contnues to breed corruption, prejudice, nepotism, bigotry and the rest. A corrupt masses delivering a corrupt leadership and the corrupt leadership strenghtening a corrupt masses.Those two are not mutually exclusive. As a people, what is our value? what do we consider a virtue and vice in our society? Our value system is completely bad and filthy but the good news is there is actually solution. It all goes back and start with good parenting, making religion a personal affair not a national or societal one, elders setting the right society standards and society values, governments enlightening and orientating on the best society values and enforcing such values that promotes a better society. 2 Likes |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by FantasticJ: 8:24am On Feb 03, 2019 |
vidicsky: Oh oh, why then don't you stone them when they come to the community �� |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Sholaco: 8:24am On Feb 03, 2019 |
How can masses be the problem of Nigeria? If masses are treated well and there are social justice, equality and no discrimination among people the society will be a better place but in a society where the rich oppressed the poor nd put the masses in isolation, imagine the situations we find ourselves in Nigeria whereby the rich chose to build there homes in Asokoro, maitama and forced the poor to live in Nyanyan and mararaba in Abuja, the children nd the family of the rich school while the children of the masses continue to live with disease, poverty, squalor. Tell me, with all these injustice where will d peace come from? The problem of this country s caused by the elites....Achibe was totally wrong in his theory! I will forever believe in Karl Marx theory 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by EyeBeeK(m): 8:32am On Feb 03, 2019 |
Chinua was very wrong.. Why You Vote The Way You Do @ http://deolaonline.com/why-you-vote-the-easy-you-do/ Pointing Fingers Is The Beginning Of Corruption @ http://deolaonline.com/pointing-fingers-is-the-beginning-of-corruption/ |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Martinez19(m): 8:39am On Feb 03, 2019 |
aishapmbtoto:The problem is with masses, precisely the character and mentality of the average nigerian. Patriotism and morality is of no concern to the average nigerian instead they want, by all means (morally or immorally), huge money to buy cars, build houses, marry, born children and buy stuffs to show their pairs or social media that they are making it. They are dominated by vain competition. So imagine if these set of people become leaders, what do you expect? Their stupidity doesn't help matters too. They don't care to fight for what's theirs or even know what their rights are. They would rather eat crumbs or just get by instead of fighting for their rights and betterment of their country. If they are smart, morally upright and care about values like political transparency, accountability and human rights, PDP and APC with their godfatherism would have crumbled or they would have sat up long ago. Like leaders like masses. 1 Like |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by otokx(m): 8:40am On Feb 03, 2019 |
Newboss: Took the words out of my mouth. 1 Like |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by SexExpert(m): 8:42am On Feb 03, 2019 |
After reading only the upper half of your write-up, this is how I summarise your points: 1. Poverty 2. Lack of education 3. Religion 4. Tribalism ... are the major factors why real progress has continued to elude Nigeria. From the above, 1 & 2 bother on capacity to make or hold on to an informed decision. From the little I know about sociology, psychology and participatory democracy, it is actually the duty of the government to empower its citizens to enable them participate rationally in inclusive governance. High rates of poverty and illiteracy will make this near impossible. Have you ever heard of the millions of almajiris in Northern Nigeria? Do you earnestly expect them to make the sort of rationalisation you are suggesting here? For 3 & 4, the story is worse because even those who are educated and financially capable still make decisions that are coloured by tribe and religion. For me, this is the biggest problem facing Nigeria. Who do we blame for this? Leadership of course! Decades of selfish leadership and segregation based on tribal and religious considerations has created a generation of Nigerians who think tribe and religion first. Indeed, majority of Nigerians probably never think Nigeria, like an American would think America. 3 Likes |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Slimpotter(m): 8:51am On Feb 03, 2019 |
ayukdaboss:Bros 15 years too small o, when the old ones go, what of the younger ones, do you see any sign of good leadership in them, truly we're too useless. |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Deadlytruth(m): 8:51am On Feb 03, 2019 |
KlasysTech: Chinua Achebe is wrong. The problem of Nigeria is the followership (otherwise called the masses). Government, by it very nature and definition as the rule of man over fellow men, is bound to be naturally oppressive and exploitative. It therefore takes a principled and resolute followership to curtail the excesses of the leadership and set it in the right direction always. Leaders don't fall from heaven or hell. They come from among the followers. In essence, the leader you have at any given time was once a member of the followership (masses) hence the quality of leadership in any society is only a reflection of the quality of followership. A docile, unprincipled, greedy, myopic, pliable and gullible followership cannot produce good leaders any more than a kolanut tree can bear apple fruits. Such expectation is akin to a situation whereby a gang of armed robbers elect one among themselves as the gang leader and then expect him to become a rational, reasonable, compassionate and disciplined person just because he has become a leader. They forget that he is still an armed robber in the background like all the rest of them. It doesn't work that way. We often assume that advanced countries became what they are on account of being lucky to always have good leaders who fear God. However, in actual fact most of the leaders of such countries don't even believe in God's existence in the first instance talkless of fearing Him. The persons whom they fear are the followers whom they know are very resolute, principled, tenacious to principles, etc. Let us take an example: In 1999 we were presented with two choices as to who should pioneer our new democracy. One was a tested democrat and pure civilian with relatively pristine and satisfactory antecedents. The other one was a member of the occult, a part and parcel of the militaristic oligarchy which had raped the country for nearly four decades and caused the Nigerian tragedy. But Nigerians, urged on by primordial sentiments, rejected the first candidate for the obviously terrible one on the excuse that he had been to prison to learn lessons of life and that he would on account of that govern like Mandela who had similar experience. But they forgot that what took Mandela to prison was his selfless fight for humanity while our own culprit went to prison for a selfish and egocentric quest for power and vanity. But few years later Nigerians turned around and started to complain of militarized and compromised democracy, the weakening of democracy institutions and lawlessness on the part of leadership. But what were they expecting after having voted for a new democracy to be pioneered by a product of the military establishment which derailed democracy in 1966 and laboured hard to clamp down on advocates of democracy for 33 good years? So whose fault was it that we are in this mess today 20 years after we returned to democracy? Another example: In my state of Edo, during the campaign for the 1999 elections in the state, while Lucky Imasuen was campaigning with issues like how to harness the transportation hub potentials of the state courtesy of her most strategic location, how to harness the arability of the land, the feasibility of harnessing the myriad of solid minerals scattered all over the Northern parts of the state, etc; the Lucky Igbinedion campaign slogan was that as Oredo LGA Chairman Lucky Igbinedion used to give his salary to market women as gift. Guess what! Voters were enthralled by the emotional campaign of the Igbinedion team to the rejection of Lucky Imasuen's which they accused of speaking too much grammar. The real abnormality was on the fact that people concerned themselves with how Lucky spent his salary as LGA Chairman even though he didn't owe them any explanation for that... while they didn't bother about how he as Oredo Chairman spent the LGA's revenue accruals which he really owed Edo State people an explanation. Even university graduates of the Philosophy, Political Science, Sociology and other Humanities bought into the argument that Lucky Igbinedion was better than Lucky Imasuen for having the record of kindness to market women as Oredo LGA Chairman. But when Lucky Igbinedion's misgovernance started, they began to blame leadership. Do you honestly think the Edo situation I painted above was caused by bad leadership or by the Edo masses? 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Slimpotter(m): 8:54am On Feb 03, 2019 |
xynerise:That's the shameful part, you try to blame illiteracy but even the educated ones are not so educated after all 1 Like |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by BuhariAdvocate: 9:01am On Feb 03, 2019 |
Achebe is a bigotry writer. I have read his books from all indication Achebe contributed to civil war. |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Craigslists: 9:02am On Feb 03, 2019 |
Naija will only become better when the masses are ready to do the right thing. One day the Nigerian masses will have nothing left to eat but the leaders. The time is coming...keep your fingers crossed. |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by ceejee(m): 9:06am On Feb 03, 2019 |
u made some good points but u failed to understand the real cause of the problem u were talking about. let me give u an illustration. some years ago, the govt of kaduna state conducted a taste for secondary school teachers in the state and more than 80% of them failed the test. will u now blame the students for failing waec, even when their teachers can't pass same? how will the teaming almajiri in Kano understand governance when they are denied of good education. the leaders deliberately put the masses on the part of ignorance by denying true education ( ability to reason and make good choice when face with multiple options). So my friend the problem remains lack of leadership. a leader shows direction and u can't show direction when u don't know where u are going ( vision). The masses u are blaming are on the receiving end. what should a hungry man do when banana is dangle before him in exchange for vote? should the same be said to a man that can afford the banana? this issue is like talking about insecurity and lack of opportunities. Lack of opportunity breeds insecurity and insecurity in turn worsen the situation. 4 Likes |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by ceeceeco: 9:07am On Feb 03, 2019 |
Yes! it's the masses, because the masses have the right to vote in and vote out any candidate. But they choose to sale their rights/votes as true citizens! |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by stanliwise(m): 9:10am On Feb 03, 2019 |
aishapmbtoto:Cant you see that the day we voted out PDP. Our politicians have start taking us seriously? We are our destiny. 1 Like |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by stanliwise(m): 9:13am On Feb 03, 2019 |
ceejee:The elites knows the evil they are doing but always remember that if anything would be set right... it lies in the hands of the oppressed... |
| Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Boleyndynasty2(f): 9:15am On Feb 03, 2019 |
vidicsky:And who elected the bad leaders? |
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