| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by femi4: 5:13am On Feb 07, 2019 |
FriendNG:
History will not be fair if we allow the misleading thread on front page about the construction of Lagos Ibadan Railway. While "AutoReport.Ng" might be doing so unintentionally, there is still need to put the record straight.
Currently, I believe there is not a single nairalander that follow-up infrastructural development threads like I and "Blue.3k." Especially when it comes to railway and transportation related threads.
For every new update on Lagos-Ibadan railway, I got the pictures as well as the video(s) first while many others are still searching.
Now back to the matter: AutoReport.NG claimed that Lagos-Ibadan railway starts with the administration of President Good luck Jonathan.
https://www.nairaland.com/5006756/fact-check-started-lagos-ibadan
Now the word Start might be very complex but we will decode it.
Start what exactly?
There is a clear difference between starting a project practically and starting a project theoretically on paper.
The Lagos-ibadan railway is only a segment of the larger Lagos - Kano Standard Guage Rail, which is divided into four segments.
a. Lagos-Ibadan.
b. Ibadan-Abuja.
c. Abuja-Kaduna.
d. Finally kaduna-kano.
However it was later redesigned to accommodate other state capitals like Ado Ekiti, Minna, Akure etc.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos–Kano_Standard_Gauge_Railway
Idea & Construction Of The Project On Paper:
In 2006, the Nigerian government awarded a $8.3 billion contract to the China Civil Engineering Construction Corporation to construct a standard gauge railway from Lagos to Kano.
The idea of the project starts during the administration of President Obasanjo. The word awarded doesn't mean you have started the work. It's just a mere written commitment and not the work.
That is why despite Obasanjo awarding the project, not a single stone or brick was put on ground.
Due to lack of funding, the rail project was divided into 4 segments.
Abuja–Kaduna Segments ($876 million) : The construction of this segment starts with President Good luck Jonathan in 2011 and completed by President Buhari in 2016.
It is all clear President Jonathan starts the construction of Abuja - Kaduna railway segment of Lagos - Kano rail. And it was completed by President Buhari.
Lagos–Ibadan Segment
1. Who Awarded The Contract On Paper?
It was awarded by President Obasanjo in 2006 on paper and re-awarded by President Jonathan in 2012 on paper. And then renegotiated by President Buhari Administration.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/07/fg-to-award-lagos-ibadan-rail-contract-soon-—jonathan/
2. Who Paid For The Contract?
I watched the vice presidential candidate of a party lying on national television that "the Administration of Goodluck pay for the rail project before leaving office." That is not only false but unbecoming of someone that once occupied the seat of power.
The first and full counterpart funding of Lagos Ibadan Railway was released by the Administration of Muhammad Buhari after a series of negotiation between China & Nigeria.
(The Nigerian Team includes: H.E Rotimi Amaechi, Hon. Kemi Adeosun, among others)
Buhari Released N72BN Full Counter Part Funding For Lagos-Ibadan Railway (Jan 2017)
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/01/fg-releases-n72bn-full-counterpart-funding-lagos-ibadan-rail/
3. Who Start / Flag Off The Practical Construction Of Lagos-Ibadan Railway?
The ground breaking which marks the initial commencement of construction works for the Lagos-ibadan railway was performed by H.E the acting president Prof Yemi Osinbajo in March 2017
https://www.legit.ng/amp/1092288-osinbajo-storms-lagos-flag-lagos-ibadan-rail-line-project.html
https://lagosstate.gov.ng/blog/2017/03/07/acting-president-osinbajo-gov-ambode-at-ground-breaking-ceremony-of-lagos-ibadan-railway-project-at-nigerian-railway-corporation-compound-ebute-metta-lagos/
https://www.sunnewsonline.com/excitement-anxiety-as-work-begins-on-lagos-ibadan-rail-project/amp/
If awarding of contract on paper means you have start the project then for every railway built by another administration, we can say Buhari started it. How?
Connect rail to 36 state capitals, Buhari directs
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/10/connect-rail-36-state-capitals-buhari-directs/
For The Records
1. The idea of Lagos Kano rail become more pronounced during the time of Obasanjo in 2016.
2. The Abuja - Kaduna segment was started by Goodluck administration in 2012 and Completed by the Buhari administration in 2016.
3. The Lagos Ibadan segment started with Buhari administration & it is already nearing completion.
Nigerians and irrelevant bragging For every new update on Lagos-Ibadan railway, I got the pictures as well as the video(s) first while many others are still searching. 6 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by megacity: 5:15am On Feb 07, 2019 |
If the project design wasnt already there, Buhari sure would have done nothing
This government seem incapable of conceiving any meaningful project of their own
Kudos to Obasanjo for conceiving the project 6 Likes |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by ToyinDipo(m): 5:16am On Feb 07, 2019 |
God bless PMB and grant him good health, Amen. 9 Likes 3 Shares |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by seguno2: 5:17am On Feb 07, 2019 |
megacity:
If the project design wasnt already there, Buhari sure would have done nothing That is what makes the difference between an educated person and an illiterate. Thanks 3 Likes |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by Siddeek: 5:18am On Feb 07, 2019 |
One thing about those pigs is that,they will never tell you that the "club"called pdp started corruption or recession in the country. But,when it comes to government achievements, they're quick to claim that pdp started it. Shameless supporters 15 Likes 3 Shares |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by Stalwert: 5:19am On Feb 07, 2019 |
God bless PMB 6 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by Nobody: 5:19am On Feb 07, 2019 |
Interesting topic. This is how it suppose to be. Senate is aware of these things and any incoming government cannot just abandon it easily. Though, with good argument can. Anyway, no stupid person will abandon such project. OBJ had good ideas. He really had indeed. Hmmmm! But no single stone was laid. Lol. Who really gave him the ideas? See, those who gave him definitely will still move the idea to another person if he did not accept them. So, what is the benefit of just signing papers? A beg, leave story. The person who completes a job is the real worker so says our adage. Why cannot Jonathan use his 6 years complete these projects. Is it not less than 4 years Buhari is still spending in Aso rock. Despite I am not a Buhari guy and not an Atiku guy, I still think he has done excellently well on this. And thanks to two guys: Amaechi and Osinbajo. 16 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by LordCenturion(m): 5:20am On Feb 07, 2019 |
I come to realise that igbo people love to act base on lies they feed them, and this kind of lies will be uniform, am still in South Africa,and I used to hear it around, especially from South African ladies that igbo people use to say common yoruba people cannot compete with them,because they are very poor in their region,that they are the one that brought money to yorubaland and make lagos a mega city,that they owned 90% properties of lagos,they use to say yoruba are not part of Nigeria initially that they came from Republic of Benin,hausas comes from Niger Republic and chad ,that they are the first tribe that occupied Nigeria...
Lol, even some of them was arguing with me the other day that obasanjo is of igbo origin,that his parents brought him to ogun state when he was a year old or something. This kind of thing is what they use to tell around in South Africa here, I don't even know people that put all this lies in their brain,Majority of them here are illiterate without formal secondary school education and they are very arrogant, almost 99% of them here are drug dealers,some even lured South African ladies and Zimbabwe ladies into prostitution and they do other manners of crimes... They will shout, makes noises all around as if they are in aba just for people to notice them,that's why SA police and immigration used to arrest them and they will heavily bribe their way out,this is one of the few reasons why yorubas disassociate themselves from them,you will hardly see yoruba man and igbo man as friends here,both tribes do their things separately here... ...
But I have met a lots of decent educated igbo people in lagos,but those ones that are here are very different set of people, I don't know why 26 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by megacity: 5:24am On Feb 07, 2019 |
Privettoall:
Interesting topic. This is how it suppose to be. Senate is aware of these things and any incoming government cannot just abandon it easily. Though, with good argument can. Anyway, no stupid person will abandon such project. OBJ had good ideas. He really had indeed. Hmmmm! But no single stone was laid. Lol. Who really gave him the ideas? See, those who gave him definitely will still move the idea to another person if he did not accept them. So, what is the benefit of just signing papers? A beg, leave story. The person who completes a job is the real worker so says our adage. Why cannot Jonathan use his 6 years complete these projects. Is it not less than 4 years Buhari is still spending in Aso rock. Despite I am not a Buhari guy and not an Atiku guy, I still think he has done excellently well on this. And thanks to two guys: Amaechi and Osinbajo. Jonathan did more work on Abuja Kaduna thank what has been done on Lagos Ibadan 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by megacity: 5:26am On Feb 07, 2019 |
LordCenturion:
I come to realise that igbo people love to act base on lies they feed them, and this kind of lies will be uniform What is the truth? |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by Oricha79(m): 5:26am On Feb 07, 2019 |
May almighty God bless president muhammadu buhari for the good job he is doing... imagine obi Chinese lieing on national TV that this present administration promise to make 1$ to a naira. 9 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by misano(m): 5:27am On Feb 07, 2019 |
deomelo:
Buhari lack mental capacity to put projects on the drawing board, also lack the mental capacity to loot the funds and abandon the project, but still able to complete all the projects the people with looting and abandoning capacity left behind.
At this stage in Nigeria, we actually prefer PMB's project starting and completing capacity, we don't want looting, stealing and project abandoning capacity. Last time I checked D project is still not completed so what are U saying. |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by islandmoon: 5:29am On Feb 07, 2019 |
may be that will put end to immunity the northerners have to break law at will, road safety officers no dey see them, 
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| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by sarrki(m): 5:39am On Feb 07, 2019 |
FriendNG:
I have not finished editing before you quote. If you don't mind modifying your post and qoute the updated post. I have change and remove many stuffs especially when it seems I am going after you or your blog and not the issue at hand. Thank you.
@future mentioners we meet later in the day.
@ I am tired. So any spelling and grammar error so be it. Good night. You call a Pdp online lobbyist a blog ? Pdp are miscreants 11 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by BabaAduras: 5:40am On Feb 07, 2019 |
SalamRushdie:
The bottom line is that Buhari is known not to have the mental capacity to be able to envision any original project since the 80s and it has remained so till date ..Our point still remains that you show us an original capital project he envisioned Political party affiliation has blocked your head that you cannot understand that if PMB can complete only 10% of projects that past administrations of PDD conceived, awarded (fully paid for) without proper engineering and nothing can be seen of the projects, Nigeria will be a paradise. What matters is not who conceived what project but who got the project executed to the point that the projects are adding values to the life of ordinary Nigerians. If you really want to talk on politics of projects, tell us what happened to $5.0b Refinery Turnaround project of OBJ. What happened to the $16.0b of the Power project? What happened to 2nd River Niger bridge? What happened to Dredging of River Niger? The list is numerous. All these projects were conceived and awarded by PDP led governments but nothing was done. All the money and the contractors just disappeared into thin air - what Oyinbo man will call "White Elephant" projects. 17 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by gotnel: 5:41am On Feb 07, 2019 |
SalamRushdie:
The bottom line is that Buhari is known not to have the mental capacity to be able to envision any original project since the 80s and it has remained so till date ..Our point still remains that you show us an original capital project he envisioned What do you want to archive with envisioning a project and the process of getting the project actualize remains a mirage. So, Buhari should envision a new project while the other projects started 20 to 30 years ago are still on the drawing board? Thank God for Buhari government who is taking it upon itself to make sure all abandon projects are being completed for the use of the masses. We should stop saying anything just to get at buhari personality. This government of buhari deserve another four years. Nigeria will witness original development. 13 Likes 2 Shares |
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| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by seunmsg(m): 5:47am On Feb 07, 2019 |
PDP’s attempt to claim the project after the failed attempt to rubbish it is just shameful. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
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| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by pfadom: 5:54am On Feb 07, 2019 |
China-made Peter Obi is an unrepentant liar. The new assignment as Atiku's running mate has done him more harm than good. We now know that Peter Obi on platform is a deceiver. 10 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by Koralords: 5:55am On Feb 07, 2019 |
[quote author=sarrki post=75490315]
You call a Pdp online lobbyist a blog ?
Pdp are miscreants [/quote but he has posted more informative post than you,someone that brings people to date about many projects,not you siting in your room and glorifying your lord 2 Likes |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by israelmao(m): 6:00am On Feb 07, 2019 |
Let Buhari bring US in Nigeria it will not save his outser. |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by Corrinthians(m): 6:01am On Feb 07, 2019 |
deomelo:
[s][/s]
I hope you are ready to do boy boy and follow athiefKulooter to retirement in Dubai after athiefKulooter's defeat. Dubai abi Cameroon? You dey f-up o!  3 Likes |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by mamajaz(f): 6:02am On Feb 07, 2019 |
sogodihno:
Well, the son of hates still tell us to abandon him and vote for Atiku and Obigotry.
Thunder fire all of u. what did d SW benefited from the 16 years of PDP looting? well, even the region supporting them are worst hit, but of course like pigs that they are they will still vote for them(tank God it is 5% after all) How will a sane Omoluabi abandon Osinbajo for Atiku/Obigotry ticket.
I kept reading and was like is it Obi- tuary you wanted to write. That guy seniors Liar Mohammed in the ministry.
SW is for PMB, Thunder fire PDP. 1 Like |
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| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by supereagle(m): 6:16am On Feb 07, 2019 |
Thanks OP, Buhari did more for us in the SW than our own OBJ was there for 8 years telling his people that he was the president of Nigeria not Yoruba race, he was busy removing Senate presidents and fighting Asiwaju for Lagos allocations. The children of Hate can follow to Atikuloot. 8 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by octavian(m): 6:17am On Feb 07, 2019 |
megacity:
If the project design wasnt already there, Buhari sure would have done nothing
This government seem incapable of conceiving any meaningful project of their own
Kudos to Obasanjo for conceiving the project For Christ sake, applaud the man's effort for implementation. I don't care about APC or PDP but government is about continuity not duplicating projects up and down 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by Bluffly: 6:23am On Feb 07, 2019 |
FriendNG:
History will not be fair if we allow the misleading thread on front page about the construction of Lagos Ibadan Railway. While "AutoReport.Ng" might be doing so unintentionally, there is still need to put the record straight.
Currently, I believe there is not a single nairalander that follow-up infrastructural development threads like I and "Blue.3k." Especially when it comes to railway and transportation related threads.
For every new update on Lagos-Ibadan railway, I got the pictures as well as the video(s) first while many others are still searching.
Now back to the matter: AutoReport.NG claimed that Lagos-Ibadan railway starts with the administration of President Good luck Jonathan.
https://www.nairaland.com/5006756/fact-check-started-lagos-ibadan
Now the word Start might be very complex but we will decode it.
Start what exactly?
There is a clear difference between starting a project practically and starting a project theoretically on paper.
The Lagos-ibadan railway is only a segment of the larger Lagos - Kano Standard Guage Rail, which is divided into four segments.
a. Lagos-Ibadan.
b. Ibadan-Abuja.
c. Abuja-Kaduna.
d. Finally kaduna-kano.
However it was later redesigned to accommodate other state capitals like Ado Ekiti, Minna, Akure etc.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos–Kano_Standard_Gauge_Railway
Idea & Construction Of The Project On Paper:
In 2006, the Nigerian government awarded a $8.3 billion contract to the China Civil Engineering Construction Corporation to construct a standard gauge railway from Lagos to Kano.
The idea of the project starts during the administration of President Obasanjo. The word awarded doesn't mean you have started the work. It's just a mere written commitment and not the work.
That is why despite Obasanjo awarding the project, not a single stone or brick was put on ground.
Due to lack of funding, the rail project was divided into 4 segments.
Abuja–Kaduna Segments ($876 million) : The construction of this segment starts with President Good luck Jonathan in 2011 and completed by President Buhari in 2016.
It is all clear President Jonathan starts the construction of Abuja - Kaduna railway segment of Lagos - Kano rail. And it was completed by President Buhari.
Lagos–Ibadan Segment
1. Who Awarded The Contract On Paper?
It was awarded by President Obasanjo in 2006 on paper and re-awarded by President Jonathan in 2012 on paper. And then renegotiated by President Buhari Administration.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/07/fg-to-award-lagos-ibadan-rail-contract-soon-—jonathan/
2. Who Paid For The Contract?
I watched the vice presidential candidate of a party lying on national television that "the Administration of Goodluck pay for the rail project before leaving office." That is not only false but unbecoming of someone that once occupied the seat of power.
The first and full counterpart funding of Lagos Ibadan Railway was released by the Administration of Muhammad Buhari after a series of negotiation between China & Nigeria.
(The Nigerian Team includes: H.E Rotimi Amaechi, Hon. Kemi Adeosun, among others)
Buhari Released N72BN Full Counter Part Funding For Lagos-Ibadan Railway (Jan 2017)
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/01/fg-releases-n72bn-full-counterpart-funding-lagos-ibadan-rail/
3. Who Start / Flag Off The Practical Construction Of Lagos-Ibadan Railway?
The ground breaking which marks the initial commencement of construction works for the Lagos-ibadan railway was performed by H.E the acting president Prof Yemi Osinbajo in March 2017
https://www.legit.ng/amp/1092288-osinbajo-storms-lagos-flag-lagos-ibadan-rail-line-project.html
https://lagosstate.gov.ng/blog/2017/03/07/acting-president-osinbajo-gov-ambode-at-ground-breaking-ceremony-of-lagos-ibadan-railway-project-at-nigerian-railway-corporation-compound-ebute-metta-lagos/
https://www.sunnewsonline.com/excitement-anxiety-as-work-begins-on-lagos-ibadan-rail-project/amp/
If awarding of contract on paper means you have start the project then for every railway built by another administration, we can say Buhari started it. How?
Connect rail to 36 state capitals, Buhari directs
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/10/connect-rail-36-state-capitals-buhari-directs/
For The Records
1. The idea of Lagos Kano rail become more pronounced during the time of Obasanjo in 2016.
2. The Abuja - Kaduna segment was started by Goodluck administration in 2012 and Completed by the Buhari administration in 2016.
3. The Lagos Ibadan segment started with Buhari administration & it is already nearing completion.
Are you getting an award for this political burangada? Just give us infrastructure |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by ceaser: 6:24am On Feb 07, 2019 |
Born2Breed:
We know who had the idea and who started it.
GEJ started with the Kaduna and the second would have been the Lagos-Ibadan. But liars will always be liars!!!! With APC lie is their nickname. "Atiku will win. Let's get Nigeria looted again, biko!" |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by deomelo: 6:24am On Feb 07, 2019 |
[s] misano:
Last time I checked D project is still not completed so what are U saying. [/s] Typical ipob miscreant nonsense.. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Lagos Ibadan Railway - An Attempt To Rewrite History by Lush100(m): 6:27am On Feb 07, 2019 |
thanks op, wake me up when the real train that functioning. I.e conveying people from one state to the other in an orderly commercial manner like human beings. just a thought: lets assume "Atiku" wins the election and the train (not moving object) gets completed let's say in 2020. I am sure we no go hear word of who is to be praised for the railway. everyone of them will want to take the glory. my own is let us see a good befitting railway working without decay for the Nigerian people so that I (my wife) can convey goods conveniently to Abuja to sell.  |
