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Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by XaviDayo(m): 10:15am On Mar 08, 2019
You guys claim there are alterations in other books safe the Quran. You came to this lame conclusion because it was written inside tge Quran that all others books have been altered. What if the other books also mention that the Quran was also altered ? How can one book condem others and same book will proclaim itself the most correct.


Una funny sha. This typifies the attitude of some folks who will go all lot to tell you why Christianity is the wrong religion ( its not a religion in any case......it's a way of life) instead of focusing on bettering their lives and following the teachings of Mo.

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Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by Bgetto: 10:20am On Mar 08, 2019
Quran is the only religion book whos pass the test of time Muslim and non Muslim testified that you claim that Quran copy from other scripture please stop fooling yourself Quran and history record prophet Mohammed is illitrate he is not Learned how can he copy?

2. If we agree with your Quran was copy from other scriptures why did Quran doesn't copy error, confusion contradiction and unscientific portion in the scriptures most especially the Bible

3.quran give scientists falsification test for non believe as mention above it's so easy to proof Quran was wrong , produce some thing like the Quran even just one sural like the Quran no-one eble to do it up to now
tintingz:
1. There's nothing miraculous about the Quran, it's filled with copied ancient myths and fairytales, the Quran is poorly written, claiming it can't be rewrite is just an egoistic and fallacious statement. There are more well written books like Harry Potter, Lord of the Ring, Game of thrones etc.

2. Another fallacy by claiming the Quran is the last scripture and Muhammad is the last prophet, these are cognitive bias, egoistic and delusional belief. There are many scriptures and people claiming to be prophet after Muhammad. The Quran is not in authority to make that claim by discrediting other scriptures and prophets.

3. Unfortunately Allah has not been able to guide his worshipers from diversity, he's more interested in protecting a book than his worshipers. And secondly how do you expect someone to replicate the Quran when such person will be killed? A statement with a threat.

4. Your number 4th statement is a lie.

5. Again the Quran has no authority to discredit other scriptures, if you want to play the authority game then game on.
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by Nobody: 10:24am On Mar 08, 2019
Mumu-mugus grin
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by Nobody: 10:26am On Mar 08, 2019
All the books that some people tried to brag about after significantly changing it to suit thier goals, was actually meant for the Muslim ummah, I know its shocking, but you just have to accept the truth or live in denial.

1-Tawra (Torah or the Law) revealed to Musa(A.S) (Moses)

2- Zabur (Mizmor/Zemirot or Psalms) revealed to Dawud (A.S)(David),

3- Injil (Euangélion/Ewwangelliwon or the Gospel) revealed to Isa(A.S) (Jesus) aka the Bible

4- Quran revealed to Muhammad( S.A.W) The last prophet


P.S it is not by force that one must be a Muslim, You are free to worship whatever you want
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by Harkyn92(m): 10:33am On Mar 08, 2019
tintingz:
1. There's nothing miraculous about the Quran, it's filled with copied ancient myths and fairytales, the Quran is poorly written, claiming it can't be rewrite is just an egoistic and fallacious statement. There are more well written books like Harry Potter, Lord of the Ring, Game of thrones etc.

2. Another fallacy by claiming the Quran is the last scripture and Muhammad is the last prophet, these are cognitive bias, egoistic and delusional belief. There are many scriptures and people claiming to be prophet after Muhammad. The Quran is not in authority to make that claim by discrediting other scriptures and prophets.

3. Unfortunately Allah has not been able to guide his worshipers from diversity, he's more interested in protecting a book than his worshipers. And secondly how do you expect someone to replicate the Quran when such person will be killed? A statement with a threat.

4. Your number 4th statement is a lie.

5. Again the Quran has no authority to discredit other scriptures, if you want to play the authority game then game on.

Having read your comments, I can see that you're nothing but an antagonist trying to antagonize a fact that can not be changed.
It will have made a little sense if you put something to support your claim.
Nonentity like you.
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by Xisnin(m): 10:50am On Mar 08, 2019
Another thread full of lies.
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by Nobody: 10:53am On Mar 08, 2019
tintingz:
1. There's nothing miraculous about the Quran, it's filled with copied ancient myths and fairytales, the Quran is poorly written, claiming it can't be rewrite is just an egoistic and fallacious statement. There are more well written books like Harry Potter, Lord of the Ring, Game of thrones etc.

2. Another fallacy by claiming the Quran is the last scripture and Muhammad is the last prophet, these are cognitive bias, egoistic and delusional belief. There are many scriptures and people claiming to be prophet after Muhammad. The Quran is not in authority to make that claim by discrediting other scriptures and prophets.

3. Unfortunately Allah has not been able to guide his worshipers from diversity, he's more interested in protecting a book than his worshipers. And secondly how do you expect someone to replicate the Quran when such person will be killed? A statement with a threat.

4. Your number 4th statement is a lie.

5. Again the Quran has no authority to discredit other scriptures, if you want to play the authority game then game on.

You sound naive and an uneducated person wondering around The Quran attest to earlier prohets and the books gvn to these prophets
1.David(Dauda)....Gvn Zabur(Psalms)
2.Mosses(Musa)...Gvn Torah(old testament)
3..Isa(Jesus)..Gvn Injil(new testement)
4..Muhammed(Mohameth)..Gvn..Quran(Quran)

All above prophets were sent at different times and with these books to guide the people.They all preached Monothesim just like so many other prophets were sent like Nuhu(Noah),ibrahim(Abraham),Jacob(Yakub).But mohammad was sent to mankind and that was why he wrote letters to the four corners of the world asking all to accept and worship the one and only true love God.

The topic hear is only saying that all earlier books and laws stopped when Muhammad was sent and that was why the the Jews and xtians e.g Abyssinian xtian king all accepted Islam.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by proxillin(m): 11:10am On Mar 08, 2019
After Mohammed stealing from the Bible and Torah?

Quran can't be more superior than its source.
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by abujaafar18: 11:29am On Mar 08, 2019
XaviDayo:
When the Quran uses the word "We".....


Abeg na who be We biko
Did you study English in your primary or secondary education at all? check the meaning in your dictionary.
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by abujaafar18: 11:32am On Mar 08, 2019
jazakAllahu khayran
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by zionzoe(m): 12:19pm On Mar 08, 2019
Jiang:
All the books that some people tried to brag about after significantly changing it to suit thier goals, was actually meant for the Muslim ummah, I know its shocking, but you just have to accept the truth or live in denial.

1-Tawra (Torah or the Law) revealed to Musa(A.S) (Moses)

2- Zabur (Mizmor/Zemirot or Psalms) revealed to Dawud (A.S)(David),

3- Injil (Euangélion/Ewwangelliwon or the Gospel) revealed to Isa(A.S) (Jesus) aka the Bible

4- Quran revealed to Muhammad( S.A.W) The last prophet


P.S it is not by force that one must be a Muslim, You are free to worship whatever you want

Was Adam the first Muslim?

Here is a typical Muslim statement: “Some people have a giant misconception that Islam came into existence when the last prophet Muhammad arrived but this is false. Islam started when Adam stepped foot on earth. Islam means submission to God (creator) Jesus (pbuh) said I submit my will to god which means Islam.”

The reason this is false is because the claim that Adam was a “Muslim”, according to any Muhammadan meaning of that word, is mere fictional historical revisionism and is used in order to project “Islam” back onto history in order to help give it some air of pseudo-historical legitimacy; but the claim itself originated with Muhammad in the 7th century making it no more historical than the date the claim began.

So the claim that Islam didn't originate with Muhammad but with Adam actually originated with Muhammad. Just ask yourself Muslims, who told you Adam was a Muslim? Muhammad! So what you try to pretend it isn't a 7th century invention yet it is based upon a 7th century claim?

In brief then to reiterate: the claim that Adam was a “Muslim” is based on claims that only began to be made after the arrival of Muhammad in the 7th century A.D. which makes it depend on circular reasoning, and the idea that Islam didn’t originate with Muhammad actually originated with Muhammad!!!!!! (As did all its other bogus claims). – Via Andre Stefen Baerga)

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Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by objobj: 1:14pm On Mar 08, 2019
tintingz:
1. There's nothing miraculous about the Quran, it's filled with copied ancient myths and fairytales, the Quran is poorly written, claiming it can't be rewrite is just an egoistic and fallacious statement. There are more well written books like Harry Potter, Lord of the Ring, Game of thrones etc.

2. Another fallacy by claiming the Quran is the last scripture and Muhammad is the last prophet, these are cognitive bias, egoistic and delusional belief. There are many scriptures and people claiming to be prophet after Muhammad. The Quran is not in authority to make that claim by discrediting other scriptures and prophets.

3. Unfortunately Allah has not been able to guide his worshipers from diversity, he's more interested in protecting a book than his worshipers. And secondly how do you expect someone to replicate the Quran when such person will be killed? A statement with a threat.

4. Your number 4th statement is a lie.

5. Again the Quran has no authority to discredit other scriptures, if you want to play the authority game then game on.


very watery argument. just want to comment.

go make research i beg you.
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by tintingz(m): 1:45pm On Mar 08, 2019
danjumakolo:


You sound naive and an uneducated person wondering around The Quran attest to earlier prohets and the books gvn to these prophets
1.David(Dauda)....Gvn Zabur(Psalms)
2.Mosses(Musa)...Gvn Torah(old testament)
3..Isa(Jesus)..Gvn Injil(new testement)
4..Muhammed(Mohameth)..Gvn..Quran(Quran)

All above prophets were sent at different times and with these books to guide the people.They all preached Monothesim just like so many other prophets were sent like Nuhu(Noah),ibrahim(Abraham),Jacob(Yakub).But mohammad was sent to mankind and that was why he wrote letters to the four corners of the world asking all to accept and worship the one and only true love God.

The topic hear is only saying that all earlier books and laws stopped when Muhammad was sent and that was why the the Jews and xtians e.g Abyssinian xtian king all accepted Islam.

Hope this helps.
These books are middle eastern fairy books, where's the book that came from Europe, America?

The Jews and Christian didn't accept Islam, infact Islam was spread by conquest.
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by tintingz(m): 1:48pm On Mar 08, 2019
Harkyn92:


Having read your comments, I can see that you're nothing but an antagonist trying to antagonize a fact that can not be changed.
It will have made a little sense if you put something to support your claim.
Nonentity like you.
What fact are you talking about?
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by Nobody: 2:11pm On Mar 08, 2019
zionzoe:



Was Adam the first Muslim?

Here is a typical Muslim statement: “Some people have a giant misconception that Islam came into existence when the last prophet Muhammad arrived but this is false. Islam started when Adam stepped foot on earth. Islam means submission to God (creator) Jesus (pbuh) said I submit my will to god which means Islam.”

The reason this is false is because the claim that Adam was a “Muslim”, according to any Muhammadan meaning of that word, is mere fictional historical revisionism and is used in order to project “Islam” back onto history in order to help give it some air of pseudo-historical legitimacy; but the claim itself originated with Muhammad in the 7th century making it no more historical than the date the claim began.

So the claim that Islam didn't originate with Muhammad but with Adam actually originated with Muhammad. Just ask yourself Muslims, who told you Adam was a Muslim? Muhammad! So what you try to pretend it isn't a 7th century invention yet it is based upon a 7th century claim?

In brief then to reiterate: the claim that Adam was a “Muslim” is based on claims that only began to be made after the arrival of Muhammad in the 7th century A.D. which makes it depend on circular reasoning, and the idea that Islam didn’t originate with Muhammad actually originated with Muhammad!!!!!! (As did all its other bogus claims). – Via Andre Stefen Baerga)

Yes Adam was the fish Muslim, And Muhammad( S.A.W) was relaying to us what Allah(S.W.T) revealed to him.
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by Nobody: 2:20pm On Mar 08, 2019
tintingz:
These books are middle eastern fairy books, where's the book that came from Europe, America?

The Jews and Christian didn't accept Islam, infact Islam was spread by conquest.

You just confirmed my earlier statement about your naivety.The religious books spread round the world because of the beleif in God.99% of the prophets were Jews and their preaching was in the Jewish land except for Muhammed who spread the oneness of God Tru preaching and conquest(Note that conquest of land was the order of the day then)as done by Christian crusaders too.Islam spread to Europe (Spain, Bosnia,Russia, Macedonia,turkey etc) already xtianity was already a dorminant religion in western world except for now that it's dying with the Advent of atheism etc.But there is no cause for alarm as Islam is already bridging the religious gap created by the extinction the Christian Europe is now facing.Great Islamic scholars like Alexandria the great(Zurkhainen) is from Macedonia Europe while Bukhari is from russia.Note that Europe saw light from the Persians(Iran).

If you know history you will know Jews and coptic Christian's who were very learned and know the books..Injila and Ataura all accepted Islam...

Hope this helps
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by Olamilekxy(m): 2:39pm On Mar 08, 2019
objobj:



very watery argument. just want to comment.

go make research i beg you.



Don't mind him he was just saying is a fallacy where as he did not give any source to his word,he was just writing what's in mind, if he want to prove u wrong he should give us where he get his information , as op did
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by objobj: 3:35pm On Mar 08, 2019
Olamilekxy:

Don't mind him he was just saying is a fallacy where as he did not give any source to his word,he was just writing what's in mind, if he want to prove u wrong he should give us where he get his information , as op did


i can see why some ppeople refused to respond to him. he doesn't worth it. he only want to provoke unnecessary argument.

thanks bro
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by XaviDayo(m): 4:52pm On Mar 08, 2019
abujaafar18:
Did you study English in your primary or secondary education at all? check the meaning in your dictionary.


Your name says it all. A simple question and all you could do is throw insults around.. Peele... Education minister....u wey go primary school.....answer the question.....Who be we for una Quran

Talk nonsesne again.....I dey wait for you.
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by Nobody: 5:15pm On Mar 08, 2019
tintingz:
1. There's nothing miraculous about the Quran, it's filled with copied ancient myths and fairytales, the Quran is poorly written, claiming it can't be rewrite is just an egoistic and fallacious statement. There are more well written books like Harry Potter, Lord of the Ring, Game of thrones etc.

2. Another fallacy by claiming the Quran is the last scripture and Muhammad is the last prophet, these are cognitive bias, egoistic and delusional belief. There are many scriptures and people claiming to be prophet after Muhammad. The Quran is not in authority to make that claim by discrediting other scriptures and prophets.

3. Unfortunately Allah has not been able to guide his worshipers from diversity, he's more interested in protecting a book than his worshipers. And secondly how do you expect someone to replicate the Quran when such person will be killed? A statement with a threat.

4. Your number 4th statement is a lie.

5. Again the Quran has no authority to discredit other scriptures, if you want to play the authority game then game on.
This is not an argument stuff
Why don't u pick up a pen and write a small chapter
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by Lanre0: 7:06pm On Mar 08, 2019
Unlike other scriptures that are of many types, Quran , the true word of Allah Almighty can never be adulterated or rewritten. Candidly, Islam is the only true religion.
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by tintingz(m): 7:34pm On Mar 08, 2019
Bgetto:
Quran is the only religion book whos pass the test of time Muslim and non Muslim testified that you claim that Quran copy from other scripture please stop fooling yourself Quran and history record prophet Mohammed is illitrate he is not Learned how can he copy?
The Quran copied most from Jewish scriptures, it also copy some other ancient cultural myth like the Alexander mythical story.(Alexander Romance)

2. If we agree with your Quran was copy from other scriptures why did Quran doesn't copy error, confusion contradiction and unscientific portion in the scriptures most especially the Bible
The Quran has many errors and bad scientific approach!

3.quran give scientists falsification test for non believe as mention above it's so easy to proof Quran was wrong , produce some thing like the Quran even just one sural like the Quran no-one eble to do it up to now
Who will replicate the Quran when such person will be killed by Jihadists? Who wants to waste his/her life on that?
Re: Dominance Of The Qur'an Over Previous Scriptures by tintingz(m): 7:45pm On Mar 08, 2019
danjumakolo:


You just confirmed my earlier statement about your naivety.The religious books spread round the world because of the beleif in God.99% of the prophets were Jews and their preaching was in the Jewish land except for Muhammed who spread the oneness of God Tru preaching and conquest(Note that conquest of land was the order of the day then)as done by Christian crusaders too.Islam spread to Europe (Spain, Bosnia,Russia, Macedonia,turkey etc) already xtianity was already a dorminant religion in western world except for now that it's dying with the Advent of atheism etc.But there is no cause for alarm as Islam is already bridging the religious gap created by the extinction the Christian Europe is now facing.Great Islamic scholars like Alexandria the great(Zurkhainen) is from Macedonia Europe while Bukhari is from russia.Note that Europe saw light from the Persians(Iran).
Making people to accept a religion by force and threats is against freedom of practice, that was how Islam was spread.

If you know history you will know Jews and coptic Christian's who were very learned and know the books..Injila and Ataura all accepted Islam...

Hope this helps
Muslims also left the religion, this is not an argument.

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