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Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by AfonjaConehead: 8:09am On Mar 16, 2019
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Rossikki:
But for thousands of years up till the above upheaval, Black Africa led the world.

Here is more knowledge, FOR THOSE WHO REALLY WANT TO LEARN: Black Africa is the source and cradle of human civilization and progress.


In ancient Greece, all Africa south of the Sahara was referred to as ''Ethiopia''. Here is what the ancient Greeks, many of whom visited Egypt wrote about what they saw:


Ancient Text Source (Primary):


Greek historian Diodorus Siculus. From his own statements we learn that he traveled in Egypt around 60 BC. His travels in Egypt probably took him as far south as the first Cataract.

"They (the Ethiopians) say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris ["King of Kings and God of Gods] having been the leader of the colony . . . they add that the Egyptians have received from them, as from authors and their ancestors, the greater part of their laws."

Diodorus's declared intention was to trace the origins of the cult of Osiris, and much of Book 3 of the Bibliotheka Historica is devoted to the intertwined histories of Osiris and the god-favored Ethiopians whom he believed to be the originators of Egyptian civilization. 

(1st century B.C., Diodorus Siculus of Sicily, Greek historian and contemporary of Caesar Augustus, Universal History Book III. 2. 4-3. 3)


Diodorus devoted an entire chapter of his world history, the Bibliotheke Historica, or Library of History (Book 3), to the Kushites ["Aithiopians"] of Meroe. Here he repeats the story of their great piety, their high favor with the gods, and adds the fascinating legend that they were the first of all men created by the gods and were the founders of Egyptian civilization, invented writing, and had given the Egyptians their religion and culture. (3.3.2).

"Now they relate that of all people the Aithiopians [Ethiopians] were the earliest, and say that the proofs of this are clear. That they did not arrive as immigrants but are the natives of the country and therefore rightly are called authochthonous is almost universally accepted. That those who live in the South are likely to be the first engendered by the earth is obvious to all. For as it was the heat of the sun that dried up the earth while it was still moist, at the time when everything came into being, and caused life, they say it is probable that it was the region closest to the sun that first bore animate beings".


Diodorus continues:

"They further write that it was among them that people were first taught to honor the gods and offer sacrifices and arrange processions and festivals and perform other things by which people honor the divine. For this reason their piety is famous among all men, and the sacrifices among the Aithiopians are believed to be particularly pleasing to the divinity."

"The Aithiopians [Ethiopians] say that the Egyptians are settlers from among themselves and that Osiris was the leader of the settlement.The customs of the Egyptians, they say, are for the most part Aithiopian, the settlers having preserved their old traditions. For to consider the kings gods, to pay great attention to funeral rites, and many other things, are Aithiopian practices, and also the style of their statues and the form of their writing are Aithiopian. Also the way the priestly colleges are organized is said to be the same in both nations. For all who have to do with the cult of the gods, they maintain, are [ritually] pure: the priests are shaved in the same way, they have the same robes and the type of scepter shaped like a plough, which also the kings have, who use tall pointed felt hats ending in a knob, with the snakes that they call the asp (aspis) coiled round them."

"There are also numerous other Aithiopian tribes [i.e. besides those centered at Meroe]; some live along both sides of the river Nile and on the islands in the river, others dwell in the regions that border on Arabia [i.e. to the east], others again have settled in the interior of Libya [i.e. to the west]. The majority of these tribes, in particular those who live along the river, have black skin, snub-nosed faces, and curly hair".

(Diodous Siculus, Bibliotheke, 3. Translated by Tomas Hagg, in Fontes Historiae Nubiorum, vol. II: From the Mid-Fifth to the First Century BC (Bergen, Norway, 1996))
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Aristotle (384-322 B.C.E.) Greek philosopher, scientist, and tutor to Alexander the Great.
Aristotle is said to have written 150 philosophical treatises.

"Too black a hue marks the coward as witness Egyptians and Ethiopians and so does also too white a complexion as you may see from women, the complexion of courage is between the two."
(Physiognomics, Vol. VI, 812a)

Aristotle makes reference to the hair form of Egyptians and Ethiopians: "Why are the Ethiopians and Egyptians bandy-legged? Is it because the bodies of living creatures become distorted by heat, like logs of wood when they become dry? The condition of their hair supports this theory; for it is curlier than that of other nations, and curliness is as it were crookedness of the hair."
(Physiognomics, Book XIV, p. 317)
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The evidence of Lucian (Greek writer, 125 B.C.) is as explicit as that of the previous writers. He introduces two Greeks, Lycinus and Timolaus, who start a conversation:

Lycinus (describing a young Egyptian): "This boy is not merely black; he has thick lips and his legs are too thin . . . his hair worn in a plait behind shows that he is not a freeman."

Timolaus: "But that is a sign of really distinguished birth in Egypt, Lycinus, All freeborn children plait their hair until they reach manhood. It is the exact opposite of the custom of our ancestors who thought it seemly for old men to secure their hair with a gold brooch to keep it in place."
(Lucian, Navigations, paras 2-3)



''There can be no doubt that the Colchians are an Egyptian race. My own conjectures were founded, first, on the fact that they are black-skinned and have woolly hair, which certainly amounts to but little, since several other nations are so too. But further and more especially, on the circumstance that the Colchians, the Egyptians, and the Ethiopians, are the only nations who have practised circumcision from the earliest times.''

(Herodotus, The Histories, Book 2:104)


Stephanus of Byzantium, who is said to represent the opinions of the most ancient Greeks, says:
"Ethiopia was the first established country on the earth, and the Ethiopians were the first who introduced the worship of the Gods and who established laws."

Quoted by John D. Baldwin, Prehistoric Nations, p. 62.



The Western Dilemma:

If Egypt is a dilemma in Western historiography, it is a created dilemma. The Western historians, in most cases, have rested the foundation of what is called "Western Civilization" on the false assumptions, or claim, that the ancient Egyptians were white people. To do this they had to ignore great masterpieces on Egyptian history written by other white historians who did not support this point of view, such as Gerald Massey's great classic, Ancient Egypt, The Light of the World, (1907) and his other works, A Book of the Beginnings and The Natural Genesis. Other neglected works by white writers are Politics, Intercourse, and Trade of the Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Egyptians, by A.H.L. Heeren (1833), and Ruins of Empires, by Count Volney (1787).

In the first chapter of his book, Dr. Diop refers to the Southern African origins of the people later known as Egyptians. Here he is on sound ground with a lot of support coming from another group of neglected white writers. In his book Egypt, British scholar Sir E.A. Wallis Budge says: "The prehistoric native of Egypt, both in the old and in the new Stone Ages, was African and there is every reason for saying that the earliest settlers came from the South." He further states: "There are many things in the manners and customs and religions of the historic Egyptians that suggests that the original home of their prehistoric ancestors was in a country in the neighborhood of Uganda and Punt." (Some historians believe that the biblical land of Punt was in the area known on modern maps as Somalia.)

European interest in "Ethiopia and the Origin of Civilization" dates from the early part of the nineteenth century and is best reflected in a little known, though important, paper in German Egyptologist Karl Richard Lepsius' Incomparable Survey of the Monumental Ruins in the Ethiopian Nile Valley in 1842-1844. The records found by Lepsius tend to show how Ethiopia was once able to sustain an ancient population that was numerous and powerful enough not only to challenge but, on a number of occasions, to conquer completely the populous land of Egypt. Further, these records show that the antiquity of Ethiopian civilization had a direct link with civilization of ancient Egypt.

Many of the leading antiquarians of the time, based largely on the strength of what the classical authors, particularly Greek historian Diodorus Siculus (1st century B.C.) and Stephanus of Byzantium, had to say on the matter, were exponents of the view that the ancient Ethiopians, or at any rate, the Black people of remote antiquity were the earliest of all civilized peoples and that the first civilized inhabitants of ancient Egypt were members of what is referred to as the Black race who entered the country as emigrants from Ethiopia. A number of Europe's leading writers on the civilizations of remote antiquity have written brilliant defenses of this point of view. Some of these writers are Brice, Count Volney, Fabre, d'Oliver, and Heeren. In spite of the fact that these writers defended this thesis with all the learning at their command and documented their defense, most of the present-day writers of African history continue to ignore their findings.

In 1825, German backwardness in this respect came definitely to an end. In that year, Arnold Hermann Heeren (1760-1842), Professor of History and Politics in the University of Gottengen and one of the ablest of the early exponents of the economic interpretation of history, published, in the fourth and revised edition of his great work Ideen Uber Die Politik, Den Verkehr Und Den Handel Der Vornehmsten Volker Der Alten Weld, a lengthy essay on the history, culture, and commerce of the ancient Ethiopians, which had profound influence on contemporary writers in the conclusion that it was among these ancient Black people of Africa and Asia that international trade was first developed. He thinks that as a by-product of these international contacts there was an exchange of ideas and cultural practices that laid the foundations of the earliest civilizations of the ancient world. Heeren in his researches says: "From the remotest times to the present, the Ethiopians have been one of the most celebrated, and yet the most mysterious of nations. In the earliest traditions of nearly all the more civilized nations of antiquity, the name of this distant people is found. The annals of the Egyptian priests are full of them, and the nations of inner Asia, on the Euphrates and Tigris, have interwoven the fictions of the Ethiopians with their traditions of the wars and conquests of their heroes; and, at a period equally remote, they glimmer in Greek mythology. When the Greeks scarcely knew Italy and Sicily by name, the Ethiopians were celebrated in the verses of their poets, and when the faint gleam of tradition and fable gives way to the clear light of history, the lustre of the Ethiopians is not diminished."


The French writer Constantin-François Volney (1757-1820), in his important work, The Ruins of Empires, extends this point of view by saying that the Egyptians were the first people to "attain the physical and moral sciences necessary to civilized life." In referring to the basis of this achievement he states further that, "It was, then, on the borders of the Upper Nile, among a Black race of men, that was organized the complicated system of worship of the stars, considered in relation to the productions of the earth and the labors of agriculture; and this first worship, characterized by their adoration under their own forms and national attributes, was a simple proceeding of the human mind."

Volney's Ruins; or, Meditation on the Revolutions of Empires, Boston, J. Mendum, 1869.


The testimony of Flora Shaw, the wife of Lord Lugard, British Governor-General of colonial Nigeria. SHE KNEW THE TRUTH! She wrote about it in her seminal work 'A Tropical Dependency: An Outline of the Ancient History of the Western Sudan'


Flora Shaw's (alias Lady Flora Lugard) book is an extraordinary look at the history of Africa, which she gathered from countless sources, and one would imagine a great deal of it came from the British Library and from the archives of The Times of London, for whom she had for many years been the Foreign Political Correspondent. She had always been known to be an intensive researcher into her subject matter, and one wonders at the months and probably years she put into this undertaking, which became the reference work for so many future books on Africa. This book was first published 100 years ago showing with detail and descriptive power, the greatness that Africa once was. Lady Lugard argues that:

"When the history of Negroland comes to be written in detail, it may be found that the kingdoms lying towards the eastern end of Sudan (classical home of Ancient Ethiopians) were the home of races who inspired, rather than of races who received, the tradition of civilization associated for us with the name of ancient Egypt. For they cover on either side of the Upper Nile between the latitudes of ten degrees and seventeen degrees, territories in which are found monuments more ancient than the oldest Egyptian monuments. If this should prove to be the case and civilized world be forced to recognize in a black people the fount of its original enlightenment, it may happen that we shall have to revise entirely our view of the black races, and regard those who now exist as the decadent representatives of an almost forgotten era, rather than as the embryonic possibility of an era yet to come."

"The fame of the ancient Ethiopians (ancient Kushites) was widespread in ancient history. Herodotus described them as the most beautiful and long-lived of the human races, and before Herodotus, Homer, in even more flattering language, described them as the most just of men, the favorites of the gods. The annals of all the great early nations of Asia Minor are full of them. The Mosaic records allude to them frequently; but while they are described as the most powerful, the most just, and the most beautiful of the human race, they are constantly spoken of as Black, and there seems to be no other conclusion to be drawn than at that remote period of history, the leading race of the Western World was a Black race."

Lady Lugard/Flora Shaw Lugard, Asa G. Hilliard, III, A Tropical Dependency: An Outline of the Ancient History of the Western Sudan With an Account of the Modern Settlement of Northern Nigeria, (1900)


http://wysinger.homestead.com/blackegypt101.html [/s]

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Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by Nobody: 8:46am On Mar 16, 2019
AfonjaConehead:
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Ogogoro analysis

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no mind the idiot. He go dey use long useless epistle to cover up his stupidity and lack of logical reasoning. The obi1 guy kept poumding his head into understanding but his type are too stubborn. Typical behaviour of all those cramming professors all over our useless universities that dwell more on paper cramming than coming up with real world solution.

The same useless strategy one Gbawe like that normally deploy here to confuse and cover up his lies.

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Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by deadkamalu: 10:07am On Mar 16, 2019
the mistake some of you make is to think that humans started existing just some hundred years ago,our era will also be buried in the dust of history,from next 10000 years to come,the remnants of the present almighty white might go back to caves. nothing last forever
Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by philoo(m): 10:20am On Mar 16, 2019
Biologically, an average Caucasian Brain is larger by 12%. Brain-wise, it is a huge difference. .
Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by capitalzero: 3:57pm On Mar 16, 2019
Rossikki:


George W Bush could barely string two sentences together without error. He reportedly visited Brazil on an official tour, and asked their president ''You have blacks here too?''

Americans voted in Trump, and he can hardly spell simple words, is totally incurious, and is painfully ignorant of the world outside America. Winston Churchill had little or no real education. He was a virtual illiterate. Stop idealizing 'white people'.


I am yoruba native speaker and I still make mistakes in speaking it. Proper education and speaking languages are different. We should start to learn new things and be innovative. We should develop habit of reading. Internet has made learning easy. People who understand real world with proper education should in leadership position.
Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by obaaderemi: 11:55am On Mar 20, 2019
Rossikki:


You wanna go by UN HDI? Ok. Let's go!

SOURCE:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

Barbados, a black country, is higher on the HDI than China, Turkey, Serbia, Albania, Georgia, Moldova, Mexico among others.

Bahamas, a black country, is higher on the HDI than Barbados. wink

Jamaica, a black country, is higher on the HDI than Indonesia, Moldova, Paraguay, Uzbekistan, Belize.

Gabon, a black country, is higher on the HDI than Moldova, Paraguay, Philippines, India, Bolivia, East Timor, Honduras.

The Republic of CONGO is higher on the HDI than Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Pakistan, Nepal.

Your racist theories place blacks at the bottom of intelligence. In fact those 'studies' place Asians as smarter than whites! So how come on both UN HDI and GDP Per Capita measurements, we have BLACK COUNTRIES SURPASSING WHITE AND ASIAN COUNTRIES?

ANSWER THAT QUESTION. Mumu.





Erm...that's what you just did there. You must be on drugs.




Different HOW? Your so-called Bantu nations in Africa are doing better than the 'Berbers/Cushitic groups', or can you compare Kenya, Ghana, Gabon, and Nigeria to Somalia, Eritrea or Sudan? The SLAVS are WHITE EUROPEANS. If they were rich you would have had no problem including them in your crowd.



And, according to your racist theory, Asians have a higher IQ than whites, yet some black nations surpass Asian nations in living standards (as shown above). EXPLAIN THE MASSIVE CONTRADICTION THERE.




But Slavic nations rank much higher in ''IQ tests'' than blacks. So why do we have black nations with greater economic success than Slavic nations?




They weren't the only ones building big things in that era. Thousands of years before Rome and Greece existed, Africans and Asians had been building even more impressive structures. The whites are NEWCOMERS to civilization. Babies in fact. Which was why they had no morals guiding them in their mad drive to loot these older civilizations just to enrich themselves and claim 'superiority' based on theft and massacres of innocent people across the world.



''England'' conquered nothing. It was the thieving elite that used gun technology stolen from the Chinese to go around robbing nations to enrich themselves while the masses of ENGLAND starved. Go and read Dickens.



The coastal dwellers of Africa were small villages. How the hell did you expect them to ''sail the oceans''?

The odd time an African empire of old was near to the ocean, OF COURSE THEY SAILED.

Excerpts:

An overwhelming body of new evidence is emerging which proves that Africans had frequently sailed across the Atlantic to the Americas, thousands of years before Columbus and indeed before Christ. The great ancient civilizations of Egypt and West Africa traveled to the Americas, contributing immensely to early American civilization by importing the art of pyramid building, political systems and religious practices as well as mathematics, writing and a sophisticated calendar.

The strongest evidence of African presence in America before Columbus comes from the pen of Columbus himself. In 1920, a renowned American historian and linguist, Leo Weiner of Harvard University, in his book, Africa and the discovery of America, explained how Columbus noted in his journal that Native Americans had confirmed that “black skinned people had come from the south-east in boats, trading in gold-tipped spears.”

One of the first documented instances of Africans sailing and settling in the Americas were black Egyptians led by King Ramses III, during the 19th dynasty in 1292 BC. In fact, in 445 BC, the Greek historian Herodotus wrote of the Ancient Egyptian pharaohs’ great seafaring and navigational skills. Further concrete evidence, noted by Dr. Imhotep and largely ignored by Euro-centric archaeologists, includes “Egyptian artifacts found across North America from the Algonquin writings on the East Coast to the artifacts and Egyptian place names in the Grand Canyon.”

In 1311 AD, another major wave of African exploration to the New World was led by King Abubakari II, the ruler of the fourteenth century Mali Empire, which was larger than the Holy Roman Empire. The king sent out 200 ships of men, and 200 ships of trade material, crops, animals, cloth and crucially African knowledge of astronomy, religion and the arts.


https://www.globalresearch.ca/before-columbus-how-africans-brought-civilization-to-america/5407584



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African Olmec Heads dated to Pre Columbian era, two of several hundreds found in Mexico




The Bell Curve is a fraudulent work that has been DEBUNKED by scholars. The writers were a bunch of racist scumbags and crooks who avoided a peer review of the book before publication.

''Herrnstein and Murray were criticized for not submitting their work to peer review before publication, an omission many have seen as incompatible with their presentation of it as a scholarly text.''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve

If they had so much confidence in their work, why did they run and hide when time came to assess the validity of their so-called research?

This is the way to educate a man who knows nothing but thinks otherwise. You can just imagine how he was trying hard to justify the white man's erroneous stereotype of his own race. I think he was the same man who once argued with me that Nigeria was the most corrupt country in the world.
Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by obaaderemi: 11:56am On Mar 20, 2019
AfonjaConehead:
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Ogogoro analysis
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Bring your own analysis, illiterate. grin
Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by alphaNomega: 6:02pm On Apr 11, 2019
obaaderemi:
Bring your own analysis, illiterate. grin

The afonja is truly a stark illiterate.
Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by Guru10450(m): 10:17pm On Apr 14, 2019
Has been proven beyond doubt that all the organised religions currently operating in Africa of today are often mainly based on hidden motif and false premise.

For instance,

Questions: Who are the first humans created by God?

Answer: African people.

Question: Who are the angels?

Answer: African ancestors

Question: Who are men/women of the Almighy God?

Answer: Everyone


If Africans are the first people to have been created by the Almighty God, therefore, the angels and the entire heavenly host, are to one hundred percent look completely African.

Anything contrary to an all inclusive African paradise/heaven can only be seen as a falsity.

Everyone knows that humanity starts in Africa.

Therefore, if humanity starts in Africa then that suggest pre-existence also occurs in Africa. Pre-existence depicts the period whereby there exists no humans on Earth.
Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by Guru10450(m): 10:19pm On Apr 14, 2019
The fabled Libraries at Alexandria was commisioned by the Persian (Persia is modern day Iran) known as Alexander of Macedon.

Basically, most of clasified Khemetic intellectual property was kept and studied upon.

Greeks conquered Ancient Egypt and continued the ongoing foreign exploit of the people of Khemet and their lands; forming their own dynasty called the Ptolemaic Dynasty that ruled Ancient Egypt for nearly 300 years until 30 B.C.E.

At its peak, around 240 B.C.E Ptolemaic's Ancient Egypt expanded to control Libya, Palestine, Cyprus, and much of eastern Mediterranean Sea.

In 30 B.C.E the Romans took control of Ancient Egypt and ruled for over 600 years until 640 C.E

Eventually, the libraries became connected to a place of higher learning similar to modern day Technical, Polytechnics and Universities. Some of the more famous students include: Aristotle; Euclid; Diodorus; Herodotus; Hippocrates; Plato; Pythagoras; Socrates; Strabo e.t.c

Thales, Solon, Plato and Eudoxus all part of the earlier students, they studied in Egypt prior to the commisioning of The Libraries at Alexandria.

A famous Roman Emperor confirmed what is written above, stating that:

"If one would document the amount of Greek and Roman academics that visited ancient Egypt for the purpose of learning, their names would not be able to fit inside a book with 1,000 pages"

In those days, if you didnt study under the stewardship of Khemetic priest then you couldnt learn the basic fundamentals of the Arts, Commerce or Sciences and wouldnt really amount to much in olden day Greece.

Every single Greek that became famous during the so called "Greek Miracle", have studying under the Ancient Egyptians as a common factor.


That is to say, the so called "Greek Miracle" is not a miracle at all but a viscious exploitation of Khemet's intellectual property.

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Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by obaaderemi: 2:58pm On Apr 18, 2019
alphaNomega:

The afonja is truly a stark illiterate.
Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by Ilamina(f): 3:39pm On Jul 02, 2019
3stacks:
Smh. Typical self hating black. Nothing cool about them, In fact they are devil incarnate, you will soon learn.

Nothing wrong with white
After all, they are not the ones that took bakassi from us

They can do better, they are the only problem
Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by Ilamina(f): 5:55pm On Jul 24, 2019
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Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by OgaBuhari: 5:05pm On Aug 10, 2019
9jaArea:
Because the whites were created by God while blacks are the creation of the devil.

u need to see ur doctor
Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by ngadaAwo: 5:10pm On Aug 10, 2019
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OgaBuhari:
u need to see ur doctor
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Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by orunto27: 7:24pm On Aug 10, 2019
It's in their Orientation and Education. Nigerian Education has been bastardised by Fulani Terrorists.
Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by donfineboi: 7:48pm On Aug 10, 2019
Volksfuhrer:
You really want to know? Well, here it is ina rubbadub stylie...

They plundered everywhere they went and stole everything in sight including the identity of others! They were originally nomads who stole the civilization of others and later claimed what others invented as theirs. There's nothing cool about them as a race please! Even their poster boy Alexander of Macedonia was so wicked he sold women and children (nay, an entire population into slavery) as he plundered cooler civilizations much older and more advanced than his own!

I will always respect the Chinese...yea, those ones are truly cool. When they were on top centuries ago, they were sailing around the world trading peacefully. They had the might to seize "living space" for themselves but chose contentment over unbridled greed!

Very lame excuse. How many countries did America plunder? How many countries did Norway plunder?

The truth is the black race are naturally the scums of the earth. Everywhere they are you get the worst of all races. Look at America, Africa. There is something fundamentally wrong with us.

Except we realize our ways are detrimental and look within to consciously rewire our ways before we can redeem ourselves. Our natural path leads to chaos and destruction. But once tamed and refined we can attain greatness.

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Re: Why Are White People So Developed And Cool by Ilamina(f): 4:13pm On Sep 21, 2019
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