chiipink:



Quit smoking it, just quit already!

LOL, most Yoruba guys don't, I don't, we all know use of hard drugs is common among your guys, Nevertheless, you still have to marry them the way they are, and leave us for our pretty Yoruba girls, stop admiring us, keep hating Yorubas, we are the most intelligent tribe in Africa.

Rossikki:


Oh shut your ignorant trap, you stupid pig.

Humans have been around for over 50,000 years, but it was only in the last 200 years that the white man entered an industrial revolution which got their land developed. If they are the superior beings you claim they are, why only in the last 200 years did they develop? Why were they not advanced over the 49,800 years prior?

Where were they when Africans were inventing/discovering Writing, Mathematics, Medicine, Astrology, Laws, Religion, Mining, Architecture, the Arts, the Sciences, Trade, Seafaring, and Philosophy?

Why were they the poorest region on earth up till only a couple of centuries ago? Do you realise it was their mass poverty that led them to go around the world killing and looting and enslaving other more prosperous places, including Africa?

Do you realise that it was black African moors who rescued Europe from illiteracy and barbarism between the 11th century and 16th century, pulling them out of their Dark Ages and into their Renaissance?

Do you realise that Benin City had streetlights and underground drainage 300 years before any city in Europe?

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace

People like you are babies. When asked to bathe they wash only their bellies. Likewise you cannot assess humanity beyond the present-day. Try to use your brain, and do some more research, so you can give more intelligent responses to serious questions.

After all, your brain is not there for decoration.

most people on nairaland commenting are babies, they don’t know shit about the so-called white man, the european that keep you poor they are praising them, an average Nigerian youth has short memory.

Because they think through everything, unlike us.

golddust6000:
You reasoning shows that you never travel anywhere. If I show you picture or some european countries you will change your perception.

sharrap there...we have resources more than these nations...we should be advancing...

Innoceeman:


sharrap there...we have resources more than these nations...we should be advancing...

and aren’t we advancing mr idiot ?

Because they do not do follow follow like we blindly follow Nigerian pastors that are scammers.

Nurrex:
LOL, most Yoruba guys don't, I don't, we all know use of hard drugs is common among your guys, Nevertheless, you still have to marry them the way they are, and leave us for our pretty Yoruba girls, stop admiring us, keep hating Yorubas, we are the most intelligent tribe in Africa.

U are a clown!
Don't force words out of my mouth with pictures?
Nobody is answering u, u are the one admireing urself....
Go and check the records of the tribe with the most professors, The tribe with the highest rate of literacy,.. IGBO.
So stop chest beating

chiipink:


U are a clown!
Don't force words out of my mouth with pictures?
Nobody is answering u, u are the one admireing urself....
Go and check the records of the tribe with the most professors, The tribe with the highest rate of literacy,.. IGBO.
So stop chest beating

quack professors every where, none of your literature professors can beat prof. Wole Soyinka. You think earning the title professor means the person is the most intelligent in the world. University of Ibadan have the highest number of professors, 1st class professor, award winners, Not professors in SSCE that you can easily get in Igboland.

Have you lived among them?

Rossikki:


Oh shut your ignorant trap, you stupid pig.

Humans have been around for over 50,000 years, but it was only in the last 200 years that the white man entered an industrial revolution which got their land developed. If they are the superior beings you claim they are, why only in the last 200 years did they develop? Why were they not advanced over the 49,800 years prior?

Where were they when Africans were inventing/discovering Writing, Mathematics, Medicine, Astrology, Laws, Religion, Mining, Architecture, the Arts, the Sciences, Trade, Seafaring, and Philosophy?

Why were they the poorest region on earth up till only a couple of centuries ago? Do you realise it was their mass poverty that led them to go around the world killing and looting and enslaving other more prosperous places, including Africa?

Do you realise that it was black African moors who rescued Europe from illiteracy and barbarism between the 11th century and 16th century, pulling them out of their Dark Ages and into their Renaissance?

Do you realise that Benin City had streetlights and underground drainage 300 years before any city in Europe?

As stated by the Guardian UK, ''With its mathematical layout and earthworks longer than the Great Wall of China, Benin City was one of the best planned cities in the world when London was a place of ‘thievery and murder’''

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace

People like you are babies. When asked to bathe they wash only their bellies. Likewise you cannot assess humanity beyond the present-day. Try to use your brain, and do some more research, particularly historical research, so you can give more intelligent responses to serious questions.

After all, your brain is not there for decoration.

Chai. See fake news.

Nurrex:
quack professors every where, none of your literature professors can beat prof. Wole Soyinka. You think earning the title professor means the person is the most intelligent in the world. University of Ibadan have the highest number of professors, 1st class professor, award winners, Not professors in SSCE that you can easily get in Igboland.

he ehehehhee.. First Class professors indeed.
Made by Yoruba gutter media.
U need google to help urself
Use google to the check the tribe with highest literacy level.. I hope u understand the English
Even the jamb and waec results tell Te asked for the past 4 5 years IGBOS are at the top.
While yorubas are struggling too hard to top Hausa almajiris

IGBOS are not ur mates...

Mainly it is because they make laws that is progressive for everyone on average and those who make the law knows to follow it and lead by example.

Those who enforce these laws have their own laws to guide them in their job.

All laws are tested and refined with each failure

chiipink:


he ehehehhee.. First Class professors indeed.
Made by Yoruba gutter media.
U need google to help urself
Use google to the check the tribe with highest literacy level.. I hope u understand the English
Even the jamb and waec results tell Te asked for the past 4 5 years IGBOS are at the top.
While yorubas are struggling too hard to top Hausa almajiris

IGBOS are not ur mates...

LOL, The best in Last WAEC result was a Yoruba, that of two sessions ago was an Hausa girl, that of 3 sessions ago was a Yoruba boy. Igbos are only known for HIV and related epidemic. Most of our professors are award winners, starting from prof. Wole Soyinka who was the first Nobel Laureate winner in Africa and the Only Nobel Laureate winner in the Nigeria

Its simply because they have been aggressive of humankind.

Nurrex:

[s]LOL, The best in Last WAEC result was a Yoruba, that of two sessions ago was an Hausa girl, that of 3 sessions ago was a Yoruba boy. Igbos are only known for HIV and related epidemic. Most of our professors are award winners, starting from prof. Wole Soyinka who was the first Nobel Laureate winner in Africa and the Only Nobel Laureate winner in the Nigeria[/s]

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I hope u know africa had universities before any European country...
In fact white people had to travel n learn how to establish a university from Africans before they could build oxford or cambridge universities....
Europe was a massively undeveloped and backward place at the time Africans and Arabs were building pyramids, sailing across the ocean or constructing roads....

What white man has above every other race is principle of self preservation....
The white man will never develop an area unless he intend to reside in the territory....
Before he does that, he destroys whatever civilisation or people that he doesn't understands or not his colour....
He destroys their culture and damage their psyche with inferiority complex.....
The Chinese and Asians has proven there's no big deal about the white man's achievement...
China lifted 850 million people out of poverty within 20 years....
A feat no other race has ever achieved....
Now Chinese are ahead in many advanced technology n catching up in other areas....
The most modern cities in the world right now with futuristic infrastructure are in china and middle east not Europe or america....

The black man can catch up and even beat other races if we drop our inferiority complex and religious dogma....
Embrace hard work, logical thinking, technology and emphasise on meritocracy.....
We were ahead before...
We can do it again.....

OkoroPeugeot:
Have you lived among them?

Yes I am currently

Ilamina:


Yes I am currently

Youv'nt been on Facebook in a bit

advocate666:


Chai. See fake news.

It will be ''fake news'' to you since you're an uneducated, colonised dullard who has never set eyes on a history book in his entire useless life.

Rossikki:


It will be ''fake news'' to you since you're an uneducated, colonised dullard who has never set eyes on a history book in his entire useless life.

Keep deceiving yourself.

Just take a look at yourself in the mirror, then take a look at the person you call your president and see where your 50000 years civilisation got you.

OkoroPeugeot:


Youv'nt been on Facebook in a bit

Do you know me on Facebook

They are developed because they make use of their common sense. But Africans have substituted religion , faith and culture for their common sense.

I lie?
If there's another reason I'm willing to learn.

meccuno:

SIRTee15:
I hope u know africa had universities before any European country...
In fact white people had to travel n learn how to establish a university from Africans before they could build oxford or cambridge universities....
Europe was a massively undeveloped and backward place at the time Africans and Arabs were building pyramids, sailing across the ocean or constructing roads....

What white man has above every other race is principle of self preservation....
The white man will never develop an area unless he intend to reside in the territory....
Before he does that, he destroys whatever civilisation or people that he doesn't understands or not his colour....
He destroys their culture and damage their psyche with inferiority complex.....
The Chinese and Asians has proven there's no big deal about the white man's achievement...
China lifted 850 million people out of poverty within 20 years....
A feat no other race has ever achieved....
Now Chinese are ahead in many advanced technology n catching up in other areas....
The most modern cities in the world right now with futuristic infrastructure are in china and middle east not Europe or america....

The black man can catch up and even beat other races if we drop our inferiority complex and religious dogma....
Embrace hard work, logical thinking, technology and emphasise on meritocracy.....
We were ahead before...
We can do it again.....

False! When we are talking about Africa, we are talking about sub-Saharan Africa ; black African, not north Africa that had interactions with Europe and Asia stretching back centuries.
Sub Saharan Africa has always been the basket case of the world. We contribute little in terms of science, technology and even writing in human development.

Our main problem is our value system. We elevate vanity to a status symbol. We love to dance, sing, worship and sex more than any other higher endeavours. We did not and have not imbibed the culture of success through hard work like the Asians, or the culture of inquisitiveness through science like the Europeans.

chiipink:


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we all know ibo girls are the strongest in terms of bed issue, but Yorubas are not created to spend most of their life on bed. We rule, win awards like wole soyinka the winner of Nobel Laureate prize, be become president vice president etc. We develop Nigeria to where it is today, we foght for colonization while Igbos were busy doing bed issue. Now most of them are HIV positive. You see your life.

wirinet:

False! When we are talking about Africa, we are talking about sub-Saharan Africa ; black African, not north Africa that had interactions with Europe and Asia stretching back centuries.
Sub Saharan Africa has always been the basket case of the world. We contribute little in terms of science, technology and even writing in human development.

Our main problem is our value system. We elevate vanity to a status symbol. We love to dance, sing, worship and sex more than any other higher endeavours. We did not and have not imbibed the culture of success through hard work like the Asians, or the culture of inquisitiveness through science like the Europeans.

Pls Timbuktu is located where....
The richest man that ever liveth came from there....

wirinet:

False! When we are talking about Africa, we are talking about sub-Saharan Africa ; black African, not north Africa that had interactions with Europe and Asia stretching back centuries.
Sub Saharan Africa has always been the basket case of the world. We contribute little in terms of science, technology and even writing in human development.

Our main problem is our value system. We elevate vanity to a status symbol. We love to dance, sing, worship and sex more than any other higher endeavours. We did not and have not imbibed the culture of success through hard work like the Asians, or the culture of inquisitiveness through science like the Europeans.

This is why many of us are so sad that they've stopped teaching history in our schools.

Your points are complete trash.

First of all, NORTH AFRICA WAS BLACK during the time of the PHARAOHS. The builders of the great pyramids and temples of Egypt were BLACK AFRICANS. Their high development had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with their ''interactions with Europe and Asia'', because it was THEM, the blacks, our ancestors, who TAUGHT Europe and Asia civilization.

Civilization meaning Mathematics, the Sciences, Philosophy, and Laws.

The French writer Constantin-François Volney (1757-1820), in his important work, The Ruins of Empires, writes that the Egyptians were the first people to "attain the physical and moral sciences necessary to civilized life." In referring to the basis of this achievement he states further that, "It was, then, on the borders of the Upper Nile, among a Black race of men, that was organized the complicated system of worship of the stars, considered in relation to the productions of the earth and the labors of agriculture; and this first worship, characterized by their adoration under their own forms and national attributes, was a simple proceeding of the human mind."

Volney's Ruins; or, Meditation on the Revolutions of Empires, Boston, J. Mendum, 1869.


Around 1785 French scholar Count Volney stated, "When I visited the Sphinx...on seeing that head, typically Negro in all its features, I remembered...Herodotus says: "...the Egyptians...are black with woolly hair"..."

''The Greek historian Herodotus, for example, described the Colchians of the Black Sea shores as "Egyptians by race" and pointed out they had "black skins and kinky hair."

Apollodorus, the Greek philosopher, described Egypt as "the country of the black-footed ones" and the Latin historian Ammianus Marcellinus said "the men of Egypt are mostly brown or black with a skinny desiccated look."

Diop also argued that the Egyptians themselves described their race as black and that there were close affinities between the ancient Egyptian tongue and the languages of Africa.''

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/africa/features/storyofafrica/3chapter5.shtml


MORE:

''Some of the most often quoted historians are Strabo, Diodorus Siculus, and Herodotus.

Herodotus states in a few passages that the Egyptians were black/dark. According to most translations, Herodotus states that a Greek oracle was known to be from Egypt because she was "black", that the natives of the Nile region are "black with heat", and that Egyptians were "black skinned with woolly hair".[43]

Lucian observes an Egyptian boy and notices that he is not merely black, but has thick lips.[42]

Diodorus Siculus mentioned that the Aethiopians considered the Egyptians a colony.[50]

Appollodorus, a Greek, calls Egypt the country of the black footed ones.[42]

Aeschylus, a Greek poet, wrote that Egyptian seamen had "black limbs."[51] Greeks sometimes referred to Egyptians as Aethiopians[52] – not to be confused with inhabitants of the modern-day nation of Ethiopia who were instead referred to as Abyssinians or Habesha and their land as Abyssinia.

Gaston Maspero states that "by the almost unanimous testimony of ancient [Greek] historians, they [ancient Egyptians] belonged to the African race, which settled in Ethiopia"'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Egyptian_hypothesis


Egypt, the black African civilization which civilized the world, fell to foreign invaders a few years BC after nearly 4,000 years of world dominance. Blacks were forced to flee southwards to escape first the Greeks and Romans, and latter the Arab invaders, who came in around 700 AD.

Most ethnic groups in West Africa trace their ancestry to these ancient migrations from the Nile Valley, as well as from Israel and the Levant.

These places were home to millions of blacks in antiquity. The ancient Hebrews were blacks. They fled, mostly into Africa, after the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. The evidence for their being black is copious and undeniable, from pictorial/artefact evidence to confirmation by the bible. Amos 9:7 ''Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the LORD.''



Europe has only dominated for the last 300 years or so. They have a long way to go to even begin to compare to black Africa's lengthy reign.

The question as to how black Africans eventually ''lost'' this knowledge can be traced to forced southward migrations caused by:

a) The desertification of the Sahara. A once lush, fertile region populated with cities and kingdoms, many of which lie buried under tonnes of desert sand. Upheavals caused by this forced movement of peoples brought strife and insecurity as the search for water and arable land created endless tensions between settler and settled communities in the interior of the continent.


b) More importantly, the ancient MIGRATIONS of Africans from the Nile Valley to regions further south which occurred over centuries were caused by foreign invasions of the Nile Valley - first the Hyksos (Assyrians). Then the Greeks. Then the Romans. And then finally the Arabs. Each conquest saw more African refugees heading SOUTH.

For thousands of years Africans had held their own against these foreign aggressors, and repelled them. But eventually they were toppled.

The migratory paths of these blacks are still seen today, skeletons still seen in the desert sands, of those who couldn't make it. Blacks fleeing enslavement and Jihad from foreign conquerors. The Masai of Kenya are looked upon with disdain and embarassment. But the Masai are worthy Africans. First class Africans whose illustrious ancestors fled to the hills, isolating themselves in preference to enslavement. The Masai have legends of a great and noble past, streaming through their folklore.

The Yoruba have legends of having fled the north - Egypt, following 'a great war'.

Was it the Greek invasion of Egypt by Alexander 'the great' in 332 BC?

Or was it the much later Arab invasion by General El Has in 633 AD?

They say they fled to protect their Ifa religion from extinction.

The Wolof, Bini, Ashanti et al, all point to the Nile Valley, as the land of beginnings, from whence they came.

In the years following these migrations, conflict with already settled communities in the newly settled lands was always an issue, as was competition for resourced arable lands with water.

The never ending Arab slave raids, and attacks from other fleeing groups looking for land and water, contributed to make life a game of Russian roulette - unsettled, insecure, unpredictable.

Life became for most Africans one long battle for survival.

Building sturdy houses and grand monuments became foolhardy.

What point doing that when your town or village could be raided, burnt down and sacked the following week?

People learnt they had to build small and live frugally so that not much is lost when time came to flee.

Writing and the higher arts and sciences were lost, or in most cases, came to be held only by a few initiated priests in each group, becoming increasingly couched in religious/occult symbolism.

Most of the ethnic groups we have today, if you inquire, lived in several different places in nearby regions before finally arriving at their current settlements. For several centuries the entire Africa South of the Sahara was in a state of flux.

What chance writing?

What chance the sciences?

What chance development?

Far more prudent to device survival methods against harsh climates and soils, suspicious 'enemy' neighbours, and slave raiders!!

Hitherto, in the Nile Valley, Igbos, Yorubas, Ashantis, Hausa etc all spoke a similar language, and were not divided.

The current multiplicity of ethnic groups and languages in Africa is a direct result of the ancient migrations which saw previously united groups splinter, as a survival strategy, into smaller groups who headed each in its own direction, often to meet up centuries later in West or Central Africa with their long lost brethren now speaking different languages /dialects.

Division and disunity ensued, as previous brothers began to see themselves as separate. 'Tribes' sharing similar cultural attributes came to see each other as ''strangers'', ''enemies'', with each guarding jealously their 'independence'.

The Europeans meanwhile, watched all this with glee, and saw a continent ripe for the taking. Its divisions having made it a perfect hunting ground for slaves and loot.

The Europeans saw the Africans had become so divided that they, the whites, could hire whole armies of blacks from one region to conquer/enslave another group of blacks in another region, and so on.

For them, slavery and colonisation became a cakewalk.

The rest is history.

But for thousands of years up till the above upheaval, Black Africa led the world.

Here is more knowledge, FOR THOSE WHO REALLY WANT TO LEARN: Black Africa is the source and cradle of human civilization and progress.


In ancient Greece, all Africa south of the Sahara was referred to as ''Ethiopia''. Here is what the ancient Greeks, many of whom visited Egypt wrote about what they saw:


Ancient Text Source (Primary):


Greek historian Diodorus Siculus. From his own statements we learn that he traveled in Egypt around 60 BC. His travels in Egypt probably took him as far south as the first Cataract.

"They (the Ethiopians) say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris ["King of Kings and God of Gods] having been the leader of the colony . . . they add that the Egyptians have received from them, as from authors and their ancestors, the greater part of their laws."

Diodorus's declared intention was to trace the origins of the cult of Osiris, and much of Book 3 of the Bibliotheka Historica is devoted to the intertwined histories of Osiris and the god-favored Ethiopians whom he believed to be the originators of Egyptian civilization. 

(1st century B.C., Diodorus Siculus of Sicily, Greek historian and contemporary of Caesar Augustus, Universal History Book III. 2. 4-3. 3)


Diodorus devoted an entire chapter of his world history, the Bibliotheke Historica, or Library of History (Book 3), to the Kushites ["Aithiopians"] of Meroe. Here he repeats the story of their great piety, their high favor with the gods, and adds the fascinating legend that they were the first of all men created by the gods and were the founders of Egyptian civilization, invented writing, and had given the Egyptians their religion and culture. (3.3.2).

"Now they relate that of all people the Aithiopians [Ethiopians] were the earliest, and say that the proofs of this are clear. That they did not arrive as immigrants but are the natives of the country and therefore rightly are called authochthonous is almost universally accepted. That those who live in the South are likely to be the first engendered by the earth is obvious to all. For as it was the heat of the sun that dried up the earth while it was still moist, at the time when everything came into being, and caused life, they say it is probable that it was the region closest to the sun that first bore animate beings".


Diodorus continues:

"They further write that it was among them that people were first taught to honor the gods and offer sacrifices and arrange processions and festivals and perform other things by which people honor the divine. For this reason their piety is famous among all men, and the sacrifices among the Aithiopians are believed to be particularly pleasing to the divinity."

"The Aithiopians [Ethiopians] say that the Egyptians are settlers from among themselves and that Osiris was the leader of the settlement.The customs of the Egyptians, they say, are for the most part Aithiopian, the settlers having preserved their old traditions. For to consider the kings gods, to pay great attention to funeral rites, and many other things, are Aithiopian practices, and also the style of their statues and the form of their writing are Aithiopian. Also the way the priestly colleges are organized is said to be the same in both nations. For all who have to do with the cult of the gods, they maintain, are [ritually] pure: the priests are shaved in the same way, they have the same robes and the type of scepter shaped like a plough, which also the kings have, who use tall pointed felt hats ending in a knob, with the snakes that they call the asp (aspis) coiled round them."

"There are also numerous other Aithiopian tribes [i.e. besides those centered at Meroe]; some live along both sides of the river Nile and on the islands in the river, others dwell in the regions that border on Arabia [i.e. to the east], others again have settled in the interior of Libya [i.e. to the west]. The majority of these tribes, in particular those who live along the river, have black skin, snub-nosed faces, and curly hair".

(Diodous Siculus, Bibliotheke, 3. Translated by Tomas Hagg, in Fontes Historiae Nubiorum, vol. II: From the Mid-Fifth to the First Century BC (Bergen, Norway, 1996))
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Aristotle (384-322 B.C.E.) Greek philosopher, scientist, and tutor to Alexander the Great.
Aristotle is said to have written 150 philosophical treatises.

"Too black a hue marks the coward as witness Egyptians and Ethiopians and so does also too white a complexion as you may see from women, the complexion of courage is between the two."
(Physiognomics, Vol. VI, 812a)

Aristotle makes reference to the hair form of Egyptians and Ethiopians: "Why are the Ethiopians and Egyptians bandy-legged? Is it because the bodies of living creatures become distorted by heat, like logs of wood when they become dry? The condition of their hair supports this theory; for it is curlier than that of other nations, and curliness is as it were crookedness of the hair."
(Physiognomics, Book XIV, p. 317)
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The evidence of Lucian (Greek writer, 125 B.C.) is as explicit as that of the previous writers. He introduces two Greeks, Lycinus and Timolaus, who start a conversation:

Lycinus (describing a young Egyptian): "This boy is not merely black; he has thick lips and his legs are too thin . . . his hair worn in a plait behind shows that he is not a freeman."

Timolaus: "But that is a sign of really distinguished birth in Egypt, Lycinus, All freeborn children plait their hair until they reach manhood. It is the exact opposite of the custom of our ancestors who thought it seemly for old men to secure their hair with a gold brooch to keep it in place."
(Lucian, Navigations, paras 2-3)



''There can be no doubt that the Colchians are an Egyptian race. My own conjectures were founded, first, on the fact that they are black-skinned and have woolly hair, which certainly amounts to but little, since several other nations are so too. But further and more especially, on the circumstance that the Colchians, the Egyptians, and the Ethiopians, are the only nations who have practised circumcision from the earliest times.''

(Herodotus, The Histories, Book 2:104)


Stephanus of Byzantium, who is said to represent the opinions of the most ancient Greeks, says:
"Ethiopia was the first established country on the earth, and the Ethiopians were the first who introduced the worship of the Gods and who established laws."

Quoted by John D. Baldwin, Prehistoric Nations, p. 62.



The Western Dilemma:

If Egypt is a dilemma in Western historiography, it is a created dilemma. The Western historians, in most cases, have rested the foundation of what is called "Western Civilization" on the false assumptions, or claim, that the ancient Egyptians were white people. To do this they had to ignore great masterpieces on Egyptian history written by other white historians who did not support this point of view, such as Gerald Massey's great classic, Ancient Egypt, The Light of the World, (1907) and his other works, A Book of the Beginnings and The Natural Genesis. Other neglected works by white writers are Politics, Intercourse, and Trade of the Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Egyptians, by A.H.L. Heeren (1833), and Ruins of Empires, by Count Volney (1787).

In the first chapter of his book, Dr. Diop refers to the Southern African origins of the people later known as Egyptians. Here he is on sound ground with a lot of support coming from another group of neglected white writers. In his book Egypt, British scholar Sir E.A. Wallis Budge says: "The prehistoric native of Egypt, both in the old and in the new Stone Ages, was African and there is every reason for saying that the earliest settlers came from the South." He further states: "There are many things in the manners and customs and religions of the historic Egyptians that suggests that the original home of their prehistoric ancestors was in a country in the neighborhood of Uganda and Punt." (Some historians believe that the biblical land of Punt was in the area known on modern maps as Somalia.)

European interest in "Ethiopia and the Origin of Civilization" dates from the early part of the nineteenth century and is best reflected in a little known, though important, paper in German Egyptologist Karl Richard Lepsius' Incomparable Survey of the Monumental Ruins in the Ethiopian Nile Valley in 1842-1844. The records found by Lepsius tend to show how Ethiopia was once able to sustain an ancient population that was numerous and powerful enough not only to challenge but, on a number of occasions, to conquer completely the populous land of Egypt. Further, these records show that the antiquity of Ethiopian civilization had a direct link with civilization of ancient Egypt.

Many of the leading antiquarians of the time, based largely on the strength of what the classical authors, particularly Greek historian Diodorus Siculus (1st century B.C.) and Stephanus of Byzantium, had to say on the matter, were exponents of the view that the ancient Ethiopians, or at any rate, the Black people of remote antiquity were the earliest of all civilized peoples and that the first civilized inhabitants of ancient Egypt were members of what is referred to as the Black race who entered the country as emigrants from Ethiopia. A number of Europe's leading writers on the civilizations of remote antiquity have written brilliant defenses of this point of view. Some of these writers are Brice, Count Volney, Fabre, d'Oliver, and Heeren. In spite of the fact that these writers defended this thesis with all the learning at their command and documented their defense, most of the present-day writers of African history continue to ignore their findings.

In 1825, German backwardness in this respect came definitely to an end. In that year, Arnold Hermann Heeren (1760-1842), Professor of History and Politics in the University of Gottengen and one of the ablest of the early exponents of the economic interpretation of history, published, in the fourth and revised edition of his great work Ideen Uber Die Politik, Den Verkehr Und Den Handel Der Vornehmsten Volker Der Alten Weld, a lengthy essay on the history, culture, and commerce of the ancient Ethiopians, which had profound influence on contemporary writers in the conclusion that it was among these ancient Black people of Africa and Asia that international trade was first developed. He thinks that as a by-product of these international contacts there was an exchange of ideas and cultural practices that laid the foundations of the earliest civilizations of the ancient world. Heeren in his researches says: "From the remotest times to the present, the Ethiopians have been one of the most celebrated, and yet the most mysterious of nations. In the earliest traditions of nearly all the more civilized nations of antiquity, the name of this distant people is found. The annals of the Egyptian priests are full of them, and the nations of inner Asia, on the Euphrates and Tigris, have interwoven the fictions of the Ethiopians with their traditions of the wars and conquests of their heroes; and, at a period equally remote, they glimmer in Greek mythology. When the Greeks scarcely knew Italy and Sicily by name, the Ethiopians were celebrated in the verses of their poets, and when the faint gleam of tradition and fable gives way to the clear light of history, the lustre of the Ethiopians is not diminished."


The French writer Constantin-François Volney (1757-1820), in his important work, The Ruins of Empires, extends this point of view by saying that the Egyptians were the first people to "attain the physical and moral sciences necessary to civilized life." In referring to the basis of this achievement he states further that, "It was, then, on the borders of the Upper Nile, among a Black race of men, that was organized the complicated system of worship of the stars, considered in relation to the productions of the earth and the labors of agriculture; and this first worship, characterized by their adoration under their own forms and national attributes, was a simple proceeding of the human mind."

Volney's Ruins; or, Meditation on the Revolutions of Empires, Boston, J. Mendum, 1869.


The testimony of Flora Shaw, the wife of Lord Lugard, British Governor-General of colonial Nigeria. SHE KNEW THE TRUTH! She wrote about it in her seminal work 'A Tropical Dependency: An Outline of the Ancient History of the Western Sudan'


Flora Shaw's (alias Lady Flora Lugard) book is an extraordinary look at the history of Africa, which she gathered from countless sources, and one would imagine a great deal of it came from the British Library and from the archives of The Times of London, for whom she had for many years been the Foreign Political Correspondent. She had always been known to be an intensive researcher into her subject matter, and one wonders at the months and probably years she put into this undertaking, which became the reference work for so many future books on Africa. This book was first published 100 years ago showing with detail and descriptive power, the greatness that Africa once was. Lady Lugard argues that:

"When the history of Negroland comes to be written in detail, it may be found that the kingdoms lying towards the eastern end of Sudan (classical home of Ancient Ethiopians) were the home of races who inspired, rather than of races who received, the tradition of civilization associated for us with the name of ancient Egypt. For they cover on either side of the Upper Nile between the latitudes of ten degrees and seventeen degrees, territories in which are found monuments more ancient than the oldest Egyptian monuments. If this should prove to be the case and civilized world be forced to recognize in a black people the fount of its original enlightenment, it may happen that we shall have to revise entirely our view of the black races, and regard those who now exist as the decadent representatives of an almost forgotten era, rather than as the embryonic possibility of an era yet to come."

"The fame of the ancient Ethiopians (ancient Kushites) was widespread in ancient history. Herodotus described them as the most beautiful and long-lived of the human races, and before Herodotus, Homer, in even more flattering language, described them as the most just of men, the favorites of the gods. The annals of all the great early nations of Asia Minor are full of them. The Mosaic records allude to them frequently; but while they are described as the most powerful, the most just, and the most beautiful of the human race, they are constantly spoken of as Black, and there seems to be no other conclusion to be drawn than at that remote period of history, the leading race of the Western World was a Black race."

Lady Lugard/Flora Shaw Lugard, Asa G. Hilliard, III, A Tropical Dependency: An Outline of the Ancient History of the Western Sudan With an Account of the Modern Settlement of Northern Nigeria, (1900)


http://wysinger.homestead.com/blackegypt101.html

Their Governments are afraid of their people and not vice versa. They have Laws and they keep them. They keep their Military in check. They record their progress, report their variances and correct them.

orisa37:
Their Governments are afraid of their people and not vice versa.
They have Laws and they keep them.
They keep their Military in check.
They record their progress, report their variances and correct them.

Look, the main thing today is that the white countries have been independent for hundreds of years before the African nations. So they've had more time to build up and tweak their institutions into the responsive, corrective institutions of today. But a cursory study of their history shows that this is all really recent, historically speaking. They've not always been this efficient. Just over a century ago, London was a hellhole, even as corruption thrived, and the British aristocracy lived the good life with reckless abandon.

Here are a few quotes from the era.

''The 1834 New Poor Law did much to criminalize poverty. In the “workhouse,” where families fallen on hard times were forced to live, conditions were kept as unpleasant as possible without actually killing people in order to make sure the message was clear. Inmates of the workhouse were fed three meals a day of thin gruel, with an onion twice a week and on Sundays perhaps a roll.''

''By the time of the writing of A Christmas Carol [by Charles Dickens], England was in the grip of “the hungry 1840s.” Despite punitive measures—or perhaps because of them—there was rising unemployment and malnutrition.''

''In September 1843, Dickens visited the Samuel Starey’s Field Land Ragged School, where the most deprived children of London’s slums were taught lessons. He was disturbed by what he saw, and decided to tackle the gross unfairness of London society, its greed and callousness, in his book. “He had an idea of the state as a bad and neglectful parent of the poor,” wrote Michael Slater in his biography Charles Dickens.''

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/12/22/a-christmas-carol/


''Dickens likened another section of the workhouse to a prison, commenting that the meagre rations for inmates had created a primitive and bestial youth who had little to offer civilised society:

In one place, the Newgate of the Workhouse, a company of boys and youths were locked up in a yard alone; their day-room being a kind of kennel ...They slunk about, like dispirited wolves or hyenas; and make a pounce at their food when it was served out, much as those animals do.''

http://dickens.port.ac.uk/poverty/


This was all just over a century ago!

So it's not as if white society has always been functional. They are only just emerging from chaos if we're to be objective.

No reason why we won't do the same. In time.

Rossikki:


Oh shut your ignorant trap, you stupid pig.

Humans have been around for over 50,000 years, but it was only in the last 200 years that the white man entered an industrial revolution which got their land developed. If they are the superior beings you claim they are, why only in the last 200 years did they develop? Why were they not advanced over the 49,800 years prior?

Where were they when Africans were inventing/discovering Writing, Mathematics, Medicine, Astrology, Laws, Religion, Mining, Architecture, the Arts, the Sciences, Trade, Seafaring, and Philosophy?

Why were they the poorest region on earth up till only a couple of centuries ago? Do you realise it was their mass poverty that led them to go around the world killing and looting and enslaving other more prosperous places, including Africa?

Do you realise that it was black African moors who rescued Europe from illiteracy and barbarism between the 11th century and 16th century, pulling them out of their Dark Ages and into their Renaissance?

Do you realise that Benin City had streetlights and underground drainage 300 years before any city in Europe?

As stated by the Guardian UK, ''With its mathematical layout and earthworks longer than the Great Wall of China, Benin City was one of the best planned cities in the world when London was a place of ‘thievery and murder’''

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace

People like you are babies. When asked to bathe they wash only their bellies. Likewise you cannot assess humanity beyond the present-day. Try to use your brain, and do some more research, particularly historical research, so you can give more intelligent responses to serious questions.

After all, your brain is not there for decoration.

You're actually the piggy here.

You sure are gloating right now, thinking you've made a very big sense.

The question here is, why are Africans so behind the Whiteman?

...In today's world, not 300 years BC.

DON'T GET SO RILED BY THE ALLUSION TO LOVE FOR SEX.

Cuz it's true.

Who knows whether and how much you dance and splurge on sex?

Calm down Mr. Off-topic Historiana!