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tesppidd:
That Is because the champions league has got a big element of luck in it, that's what I think.

But there's a bigger likelihood that Bayern could have won more with Messi and Barca less without Messi.

8 of the last 10 UCL winning sides have either a Messi or a Ronaldo in them. Of the remaining 2, one had Robben and Ribery. The only team you can attribute to have been lucky to win the UCL during this period is Chelsea.

Of course luck plays a role; but that role reduces significantly if you’ve got great players in your team. If we didn’t have players as great as Messi and Ronaldo in the last decade maybe luck would’ve played a greater part.

GloryIsaac:
They respect the guy a lot here, unlike some of the overpampered babies in Madrid who don't respect their best player in history.

Real Madrid is the king’s team. Their fans are like members of a ruling political party. They are arrogant and insatiable.

Leyqute:
Bro. You’re still hangry about hazard.

How can i be angry about someone that i don't even give a fvck about?

LoRdCaT:
How can i be angry about someone that i don't even give a fvck about?

LooooL. Take it easy on them biko

Leyqute:
Real Madrid is the king’s team. Their fans are like members of a ruling political party. They are arrogant and insatiable.

True though ... Ramos is gradually going to become their next victim, and after him, Modric. Kroos will silently disappear

I just pity Courtouis, that one is finished.

GloryIsaac:
Nobody is downplaying the other players, but there is that one player that makes things happen.

What Messi is to Barca, is what Ronaldo was to Real Madrid.

See Debroslink's last paragraph, he said that Messi is the reason we are not boasting of beating Barca and it is 100% true.

Even though we believe that we can beat Barca, the thought of Messi playing against us is humbling enough, that is the undiluted truth.

He even mentioned that Messi is the center of their achievements. See ehn, Messi is the reason some Barca fans have the audacity to come and make noise on our thread, the moment he gets injured, they will all keep silent till the match is over. Na me talk am.

I don't think you are getting me. I know Ronaldo is a game changing player, but no matter how much he steps up to carry the team, he would achieve nothing if the team doesn't play their part too. If Ronaldo is at his A game and he scores 5 goals, but the defence is at level Zero and they concede 6 how will the team win? Ronaldo is very important but he can't do it if his teammates are poor. Football is never a one-man game no matter how good a player is. Do you think Ronaldo can ever win the UCL for a team like Villareal? Ofcourse not, because villareal's team is not good enough. Ronaldo complemented Madrid and vice versa. A good player will go nowhere without a good team. Is Messi not also a game changing player? Why has he not replicated the same success Ronaldo had with Madrid with Barca in the UCL? It is simply because his teammates refused to play their parts.


Bros the entire team gets trolled. The reason players like Ronaldo and Messi are trolled is because of the rivalry between them. Some people think Messi is the GOAT while some stand for Ronaldo so when any of the both team loses the Rival fans pick on the star man but ultimately, the whole team is trolled.

Leyqute:
LooooL. Take it easy on them biko

GloryIsaac:
True though ... Ramos is gradually going to become their next victim, and after him, Modric. Kroos will silently disappear

I just pity Courtouis, that one is finished.

LooL.

Chelsea legend Thibaut Courtois.

airmark:
But when raumdeuter types his rubbish asking for Hazard's Ucl trophy, you and your fellow 'up barca' fans, won't come out to talk sense into his skull, that soccer is a team sport. Continue.

We are talking about Messi and Ronaldo and their UCL exploits. You dey talk about Hidden Ikebe Super who isn't an impact player.

We are talking about players who have scored over 100 UCL goals, you dey bring Hidden Lizard who has less goals than Michael Essien(DM) in UCL.

Tell us one great knock out match Hidden Ikebe has won for Chelsea in UCL since you sign him.

LMaO. Eden Shakushaku getting dragged again.

Debroslink:
We are talking about Messi and Ronaldo and their UCL exploits. You dey talk about Hidden Ikebe Super who isn't an impact player.

We are talking about players who have scored over 100 UCL goals, you dey bring Hidden Lizard who has less goals than Michael Essien(DM) in UCL.

Tell us one great knock out match Hidden Ikebe has won for Chelsea in UCL since you sign him.

don't insult Hazard, no winger in Barcelona is better than him. Besides the blame can also go to his team, his team are extremely poor.

GloryIsaac:
They respect the guy a lot here, unlike some of the overpampered babies in Madrid who don't respect their best player in history.

its not just Messi that we respect, every sensible Barca fan celebrates all players who have contributed to the legacy of the club, even Neymar that left us is still respected, Villa, Eto, Valdes, Bravo, Abidal, Alves, Toure, and so many others. Sensible club fans celebrate their history and those that contributed to that history

LoRdCaT:
I don't think you are getting me. I know Ronaldo is a game changing player, but no matter how much he steps up to carry the team, he would achieve nothing if the team doesn't play their part too. If Ronaldo is at his A game and he scores 5 goals, but the defence is at level Zero and they concede 6 how will the team win? Ronaldo is very important but he can't do it if his teammates are poor. Football is never a one-man game no matter how good a player is. Do you think Ronaldo can ever win the UCL for a team like Villareal? Ofcourse not, because villareal's team is not good enough. Ronaldo complemented Madrid and vice versa. A good player will go nowhere without a good team. Is Messi not also a game changing player? Why has he not replicated the same success Ronaldo had with Madrid with Barca in the UCL? It is simply because his teammates refused to play their parts.


Bros the entire team gets trolled. The reason players like Ronaldo and Messi are trolled is because of the rivalry between them. Some people think Messi is the GOAT while some stand for Ronaldo so when any of the both team loses the Rival fans pick on the star man but ultimately, the whole team is trolled.

So you want me to reply the same post on two different threads? ... It's all good sha, let's agree to disagree.

IKON360:
its not just Messi that we respect, every sensible Barca fan celebrates all players who have contributed to the legacy of the club, even Neymar that left us is still respected, Villa, Eto, Valdes, Bravo, Abidal, Alves, Toure, and so many others. Sensible club fans celebrate their history and those that contributed to that history

Exactly... this doesn't mean we won't knock you guys out sha .

Debroslink:
[s]We are talking about Messi and Ronaldo and their UCL exploits. You dey talk about Hidden Ikebe Super who isn't an impact player.

We are talking about players who have scored over 100 UCL goals, you dey bring Hidden Lizard who has less goals than Michael Essien(DM) in UCL.

Tell us one great knock out match Hidden Ikebe has won for Chelsea in UCL since you sign him.[/s]

Don't shy away from the point. Your earlier post confirmed what we always tell y'all about football being a team sport. Without other players performing, you confirmed that Messi would be useless. That's the point, not all these irrelevances you later typed above.

GloryIsaac:
So you want me to reply the same post on two different threads? ... It's all good sha, let's agree to disagree.

Lol. No vex, i didn't have power to type something else

GloryIsaac:
Exactly... this doesn't mean we won't knock you guys out sha .

lol, we are a nice club, that respect historic UCL teams, we will allow you guys 2 goals... But we are gonna defeat you guys. But if you people dont play Pogba you may have a more serious chance at beating us.

LoRdCaT:
Lol. No vex, i didn't have power to type something else

Can you imagine? You actually did it again

airmark:
Don't shy away from the point. Your earlier post confirmed what we always tell y'all about football being a team sport. Without other players performing, you confirmed that Messi would be useless. That's the point, not all these irrelevances you later typed above.

I wanted to point that out too, Hazard will do extremely well in a team that is willing to spend. See Sterling for Man city, Guardiola played a role in his development but Sterling, Sane, B Silva and Mahrez won't thrive without others pulling their weight. And Hazard is better than all these players. If Fernandinho gets injured again watch how the whole Man city will falter, the WHOLE TEAM...

LoRdCaT:
Hazard is a fraud, i do not even bother myself arguing about frauds. Messi and Ronaldo contribute their quota by banging in goals and giving assists. If the team doesn't win, then it is down to other players not playing their parts.
All Hazard does is dance shakushaku, he stagnates his team by dancing on the ball when he should be shooting or passing. Hidden Fraud Hazard

Since Hazard joined Chelsea in 2012, he has won:

2 epl, 1 Fa cup, 1 efl, 1 europa league


Man utd have won

1 epl, 1 Fa cup, 1 efl, 1 europa league


if Hazard is a fraud, what should we call your team?

IKON360:
lol, we are a nice club, that respect historic UCL teams, we will allow you guys 2 goals... But we are gonna defeat you guys. But if you people dont play Pogba you may have a more serious chance at beating us.

Pogba is definitely playing, that's not even negotiable lmao..

airmark:
Don't shy away from the point. Your earlier post confirmed what we always tell y'all about football being a team sport. Without other players performing, you confirmed that Messi would be useless. That's the point, not all these irrelevances you later typed above.

Later they will say Raumdeuter is an amala turner. Where did anybody say Messi will be useless? Hazard is useless because he adds nothing but shakushaku to his team, Messi cannot be regarded as useless even if Barca fails because he always does his part. What exactly does Hazard do for Chelsea except dancing? Hazard's mates put on their football boots on the field while Hazard puts on his dancing shoes. Hazard should be compared to that penguin in the movie Happy feet.

IKON360:
I wanted to point that out too, Hazard will do extremely well in a team that is willing to spend. See Sterling for Man city, Guardiola played a role in his development but Sterling, Sane, B Silva and Mahrez won't thrive without others pulling their weight. And Hazard is better than all these players. If Fernandinho gets injured again watch how the whole Man city will falter, the WHOLE TEAM...

That's how football works. That's why big teams ensure they fill all positions with competent players.

Liverpool learnt that in a very hard way against Madrid. Karius was sent packing asap.

airmark:
Since Hazard joined Chelsea in 2012, he has won:

2 epl, 1 Fa cup, 1 efl, 1 europa league


Man utd have won

1 epl, 1 Fa cup, 1 efl, 1 europa league


if Hazard is a fraud, what should we call your team?

Yeah, Hazard was the only one on the pitch when he won the titles abi? Hazard is a penguin.

GloryIsaac:
Pogba is definitely playing, that's not even negotiable lmao..

ahh, well just pray Herrera and Matic bring their A game, or its a certainty we will beat you guys. Pogba's liability outweighs his assets when pressure is turned on him

Wth Penguin

LoRdCaT:
Later they will say Raumdeuter is an amala turner. Where did anybody say Messi will be useless? Hazard is useless because he adds nothing but shakushaku to his team, Messi cannot be regarded as useless even if Barca fails because he always does his part. What exactly does Hazard do for Chelsea except dancing? Hazard's mates put on their football boots on the field while Hazard puts on his dancing shoes. Hazard should be compared to that penguin in the movie Happy feet.

Who told you Hazard didn't do his part, when Courtois opened legs multiple times against Barca?. We had a 1-0 advantage before we erroneously conceded a goal at the bridge and gave Barca the edge?

In the last carling cup final against City, didn't Hazard do his part, but for Pedro to refuse to shoot at almost empty net, before we lost on Pk?

Who destroyed your team's hope of winning a trophy last year?

You are the one turning amala now since i injected Hazard into this. But it won't work.

IKON360:
ahh, well just pray Herrera and Matic bring their A game, or its a certainty we will beat you guys. Pogba's liability outweighs his assets when pressure is turned on him

McTominay will replace Matic in the lineup. I believe in JLingz, Rashford and Martial. The Miracle of Camp Nou.

LoRdCaT:
Bro you brought this issue here? These niggas idolize Messi na

forget idolizing messi, check all the times we got knocked out of the UCL, he doesnt score in both legs

airmark:
That's how football works. That's why big teams ensure they fill all positions with competent players.

Liverpool learnt that in a very hard way against Madrid. Karius was sent packing asap.

Liverpool have the 2nd most expensive keeper, and the most expensive defender, they are the least conceding side in EPL, Man city spent over 200m in two years, and they have the most fearsome bench in EPL, the only player that Man city dont have back up for is Fernandinho, Gundogan tries but he is no Fernandinho.
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The season Madrid won UCL and La liga, they had an extremely solid team, everybody was pulling their weight from Isco, Kroos, to James and Morata. They obliterated Juventus.

GloryIsaac:
McTominay will replace Matic in the lineup. I believe in JLingz, Rashford and Martial. The Miracle of Camp Nou.

and there is Young, Smalling, their wings will give us extreme joy. Tell me which part of our defense you people will exploit?

IKON360:
Liverpool have the 2nd most expensive keeper, and the most expensive defender, they are the least conceding side in EPL, Man city spent over 200m in two years, and they have the most fearsome bench in EPL, the only player that Man city dont have back up for is Fernandinho, Gundogan tries but he is no Fernandinho.
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The season Madrid won UCL and La liga, they had an extremely solid team, everybody was pulling their weight from Isco, Kroos, to James and Morata. They obliterated Juventus.

That's how it goes.

Look at Liverpool, Salah hasn't been scoring in the last two months, but others took up the gauntlet and not many criticised Salah. Let's assume they have one average Mavugo from Burundi, instead of Mane and calamitous Boateng instead of Van Dijk. Do you think jury won't be out on Salah's goal drought?