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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by extraterestrial: 6:22am On Mar 21, 2019
GoodMemory:


For me:
Outdoor culture. It means a lot to Aussies. Eating out means a lot to them. I'm tired of answering the question "what do you have planned for the weekend?" What else do I have have planned? I'll be with the family and watch movies...lol. If you give such a response twice, they will see you as a boring person.. lol. If you tell them you are going on some trip to see kangaroo and koala... viola! you will be their friend because on Monday morning, they will cluster around you to hear "gists"

Another culture shock is how everything works. Australia is one giant machine with different parts like centrelink, medicare, tax, etc. one part goes into another. How they have managed to create a society where things work is a shock to me.

How majority drive within speed limit without the presence of police or patrol cars was a shock to me.

LOL if it is by this one I am the most boring person in my team. Every Friday I tell them same thing.."spend time with the family" lool I think they pardon me because they know I have a baby and I have just weekends to catch-up and spend time with him.
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by citizen202(m): 4:15pm On Mar 21, 2019
can I move in with 2million to Australia ?
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Bnimz(m): 7:59pm On Mar 21, 2019
FBS:

Drove in Sydney and just couldn't wait to get out. Omo, madness full that place o! cameras everywhere yet some people just dont give a toss. cheesy
Unlike some other states, in NSW/ACT a warning sign MUST be placed before any fixed or mobile speed camera.. It is the law... This gives some of us peace of mind cos except you are not paying attention to the road, you'll see the sign and slow down.... The only real fear in NSW is being caught by Highway patrol... Cos They can be anywhere at anytime and you often don't see them until its too late.

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Nobody: 10:40pm On Mar 21, 2019
I was fined $130 for driving on a transit lane to work lol, I didn't even see the police bikeman behind me until he beefed and pulled me over na there my eye clear �

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by GoodMemory: 12:52am On Mar 22, 2019
Nigerians in Melbourne, here's an event to look forward to

https://www.comedyfestival.com.au/2019/shows/best-of-africa-live-stand-up-comedy

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by trastar(f): 2:32am On Mar 22, 2019
citizen202:
can I move in with 2million to Australia ?

Is that for just you or a family of 7? anyways, thats 8k aud.
that's decent if you ask me. hopefully u will get a job before you spend all of that on rent and bond.

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Nobody: 6:02am On Mar 22, 2019
Greetings to all the Seniors here.
I’ve just graduated from the DIY guide thread to Living in Australia thread. My family just got TAS 489 visa, and our IED is August 8. Good read and very insightful write ups thus far. I’ll need clarity on some few things as it comes up, and I’ll reqlly appreciate your response. At the moment, I’ll like anyone in Tasmania already to give some specifics- accommodation, initial settling, job prospects etc. Thanks all.

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Soblaz: 2:03am On Mar 23, 2019
doyen06:
Hi fellow Nairalanders, just a quick update. My family of 4 left Lagos on 14th for Dubai DXB airport and we had a 4 hours stop over. The ticket IOM sent us only had a stop over at Dubai but we were surprised To have another stop over at Bangkok, though a brief one. Emirate is excellent and their in flight entertainment system really helped in relieving the stress of the journey. After about 24 hours on the air, we safely arrived Sydney by 9am on the 16th of oct. We clear the customs easily and people here are so helpful, we got two stranger helped with out trolley and Sannywemmy was already waiting to pick us up. He's an excellent guy and so is his wife. Thanks to other members who kept tracking us on the air: ayaboyo, sir bellong, mctowel, bnimz, kikiade and my personal person @disectur. Special thanks to my landlord(Jamson) and Mrs Jamson for her hospitality, the efo and semo was very much on point. On the 17th of oct, Sannywemmy is around again to take us to centerlink and we complete our registrations. I'll give more update as we settle.
wow its like a dream coming through already... But cant do this on my own oh help pls
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by abby2443: 8:51am On Mar 25, 2019
Hello great minds, please i need help. AACA has asked that i provide an address in Australia where they can send my assessment outcome letter to since i can't receive the one they sent to Nigeria for like a month now. Please i need someone who can receive this letter for me and then scan it to me. Please note that AACA does not post assessment outcome by email hence, the reason for the whole stress. Thanks in anticipation.

My email is platinumdrawingz@gmail.com for anybody willing to help.

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by GoodMemory: 11:36am On Mar 25, 2019
A lot has been said and written on the issue of racism in Australia. Most of the write-ups have come from non-Africans, usually Indians and Islanders and sometimes, but rarely, blacks who aren’t Africans. I believe racism/stereotypical behaviors towards these set of people might be different depending on the circumstances.
Personally, I feel Australians do not deserve the bad image which they have earned internationally as a racist country. It may have been because of the way and manner the Aboriginal people were treated or the growing concern about increased migration into Australia. In a survey, Australia, was ranked top as one of the most tolerant countries while India is ranked as the least tolerant country.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/15/a-fascinating-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/?utm_term=.4b318d97beda

In another survey by economic and trading group, Insider Monkey, India again ranked top country where people are racially least tolerant. Australia is not even on the list of racially intolerant countries.

https://businesstech.co.za/news/lifestyle/116644/the-most-racist-countries-in-the-world/

This is not an attempt to downplay racism in Australia. It is alive and well. However, what you will experience here is different from what immigrants in Canada, the USA, or the UK experience daily. For example, you may witness commuters not wanting to sit next to you in public transport, people going back to their car on seeing you, to check if their car door is safely locked, pedestrians changing lanes on sighting you from afar etc. the number and frequency is just the same whether you are in Vancouver, BC Canada, Texas in the US , Manchester in the UK or Melbourne in Australia. These acts are not on their own conclusively pointing to racism as a second meaning might be read to them. Pedestrian changing lanes might be doing it genuinely, commuters sometimes prefer standing to sitting, etc. Please note I am not holding briefs for perpetrators of racism.

As someone who has lived in a western country for 10 years before relocating to Australia, I can tell you one thing you will witness. Supremacy mentality. Superiority complex is pervasive in any first world countries or any nation with predominantly Caucasian population.
The average white person feels genetically superior to the next black person until circumstances prove him otherwise. A homeless guy, a slowpoke and a never-do-well feel they are better than a black person who is perhaps a medical doctor. Remember we are dealing with 400 odd years, age-long mentality.
Superiority complex will daily confront you at work, during social interactions etc.


As an African, here’s my top 4 ways that will help minimize racism. Some of them are long term approach but I think they have to happen before racism can be reduced.

Awareness
The first step to defeating any problem is having an awareness of the problem. Knowing the full strength of the problem helps to access the strategy and tactics to deal with the problem. Knowing your rights is another form of having awareness.
We need to be able to recognize tell-tale signs of racism. If convinced you are racially abused, call out the perpetrator and seek justice in Australian Human Rights Commission.
https://www.humanrights.gov.au.
Unfortunately, Black people are not known to escalate issues like this as they are quick to forgive people who racially abuse them. The fact is, you can forgive and still take your abuser to court. That has nothing to do with your religious instruction to forgive.

Black people should stick together
I do not advocate black people should create their own enclave and live there. I mean black people should learn to cooperate with themselves. We are quick to say “I avoid fellow Africans wherever I go because of my previous experience with them”. What I want to know is do you also avoid white people and Asians because of your experience in their hands? I doubt, otherwise you would have moved back to naija. Why are we quick to forgive other races and hold eternal grudges against people that look like us? Why are we quick to befriend others and reluctant to be friends with our own? As an example: My kids were the only black kids in the school until this school term when another black kid, a Nigerian for that matter, joined them. The principal of the school had told us about the new kid, so we were looking forward to meeting them.
On the day we finally met, we were given a cold shoulder by the parents of the kid. We thought maybe they were introverts and were the type that reluctantly warmed up to strangers. Well, after several failed attempts to talk to them, we gave up. We hardly even say ‘hi” to each other anymore. What message do you think both of us had sent to other races in that school? To minimize racism, the culture of self-hate among black people has to stop.
When a people are united, it is hard for others to disrespect them. Are you the type who feels happy when he is told by other races “you are not like others”? If you were, then you need to know they (other races) are playing divide and rule on you.

Let’s start taking over
How do you expect others to respect us when we are constantly rocking the bottom of the social ladder of any society? How will others respect us when our target are jobs that pay minimum wages but because of exchange rate to Naira and other African currencies, we are proud to label it “good money”. Why do we always think so small? Why is it that the only business Africans run is a tiny African shop that caters for only Africans? An Indian moves to Australia. He is accommodated by his friends. He saves up money, teams up with friends and they buy 7-Eleven franchise. He employs and brings in 5 more people from India to work in the 7-Eleven shop. The white guy who goes into that Indian owned 7-Eleven is bound to respect because he knows they are visibly contributing to the Australian economy. The cold fact of life is no one respects an economically backward people. There was a time when Caucasians used to look down on Chinese, but today it is classy to go to Chinese restaurants and it is also a sign of sophistication to eat with chopsticks! Let’s start dominating wherever we find ourselves. If you have the capital or resources or know rich politicians back home, convince them to start investing in Australia. There are lots of opportunities in real estate and other businesses. Trust me, you can never imagine the impact it would have on our beautiful race and its people. Let’s cultivate the habit of selflessness.
I thank the moderator, creators and the selfless contributors on Living in Australia and A Guide to Permanent Residency in Australia on Nairaland. These platforms have assisted a lot of people and is continuing to assist thousands of people. That is what we are talking about. I benefited immensely from these threads. Ironically, some people who have benefited are the ones who are mute now after receiving the PR and are settled in Australia. Let’s us learn to share information just like other races.

Be firm and assertive
You are on the train and someone racially abuses you. What are you going to do? Sit there and smile? Hell no! Calmly but firmly give it back to him. Watch your words though so you do not in anger racially abuse him too and you know what? They will not hesitate to sue you at the drop of a pin. If possible, use your phone to record the encounter so you can have evidence that will be presented when you approach human rights commission later.
At work, being assertive is good because it is a proactive approach. If they know you don’t take nonsense, they are less likely to say things that will annoy you.

Having said all these, racism in Australia is not as bad as people say. Most Australians are friendly. On the street, no one cares what you look like and in the offices and workplaces, there are strong laws that prevent people from discrimination.
The people who complain the most are the ones who are guilty of it. They are the people whose country are ranked No. 1 on the list of racially intolerant countries.

Racism is probably worse in the US compared to Australia, so guys if you are thinking of moving to Australia, please come over and have fun!

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by murphy02(m): 12:54pm On Mar 25, 2019
GoodMemory:

A lot has been said and written on the issue of racism in Australia. Most of the write-ups have come from non-Africans, usually Indians and Islanders and sometimes, but rarely, blacks who aren’t Africans. I believe racism/stereotypical behaviors towards these set of people might be different depending on the circumstances.
Personally, I feel Australians do not deserve the bad image which they have earned internationally as a racist country. It may have been because of the way and manner the Aboriginal people were treated or the growing concern about increased migration into Australia. In a survey, Australia, was ranked top as one of the most tolerant countries while India is ranked as the least tolerant country.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/15/a-fascinating-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/?utm_term=.4b318d97beda

In another survey by economic and trading group, Insider Monkey, India again ranked top country where people are racially least tolerant. Australia is not even on the list of racially intolerant countries.

https://businesstech.co.za/news/lifestyle/116644/the-most-racist-countries-in-the-world/

This is not an attempt to downplay racism in Australia. It is alive and well. However, what you will experience here is different from what immigrants in Canada, the USA, or the UK experience daily. For example, you may witness commuters not wanting to sit next to you in public transport, people going back to their car on seeing you, to check if their car door is safely locked, pedestrians changing lanes on sighting you from afar etc. the number and frequency is just the same whether you are in Vancouver, BC Canada, Texas in the US , Manchester in the UK or Melbourne in Australia. These acts are not on their own conclusively pointing to racism as a second meaning might be read to them. Pedestrian changing lanes might be doing it genuinely, commuters sometimes prefer standing to sitting, etc. Please note I am not holding briefs for perpetrators of racism.

As someone who has lived in a western country for 10 years before relocating to Australia, I can tell you one thing you will witness. Supremacy mentality. Superiority complex is pervasive in any first world countries or any nation with predominantly Caucasian population.
The average white person feels genetically superior to the next black person until circumstances prove him otherwise. A homeless guy, a slowpoke and a never-do-well feel they are better than a black person who is perhaps a medical doctor. Remember we are dealing with 400 odd years, age-long mentality.
Superiority complex will daily confront you at work, during social interactions etc.


As an African, here’s my top 4 ways that will help minimize racism. Some of them are long term approach but I think they have to happen before racism can be reduced.

Awareness
The first step to defeating any problem is having an awareness of the problem. Knowing the full strength of the problem helps to access the strategy and tactics to deal with the problem. Knowing your rights is another form of having awareness.
We need to be able to recognize tell-tale signs of racism. If convinced you are racially abused, call out the perpetrator and seek justice in Australian Human Rights Commission.
https://www.humanrights.gov.au.
Unfortunately, Black people are not known to escalate issues like this as they are quick to forgive people who racially abuse them. The fact is, you can forgive and still take your abuser to court. That has nothing to do with your religious instruction to forgive.

Black people should stick together
I do not advocate black people should create their own enclave and live there. I mean black people should learn to cooperate with themselves. We are quick to say “I avoid fellow Africans wherever I go because of my previous experience with them”. What I want to know is do you also avoid white people and Asians because of your experience in their hands? I doubt, otherwise you would have moved back to naija. Why are we quick to forgive other races and hold eternal grudges against people that look like us? Why are we quick to befriend others and reluctant to be friends with our own? As an example: My kids were the only black kids in the school until this school term when another black kid, a Nigerian for that matter, joined them. The principal of the school had told us about the new kid, so we were looking forward to meeting them.
On the day we finally met, we were given a cold shoulder by the parents of the kid. We thought maybe they were introverts and were the type that reluctantly warmed up to strangers. Well, after several failed attempts to talk to them, we gave up. We hardly even say ‘hi” to each other anymore. What message do you think both of us had sent to other races in that school? To minimize racism, the culture of self-hate among black people has to stop.
When a people are united, it is hard for others to disrespect them. Are you the type who feels happy when he is told by other races “you are not like others”? If you were, then you need to know they (other races) are playing divide and rule on you.

Let’s start taking over
How do you expect others to respect us when we are constantly rocking the bottom of the social ladder of any society? How will others respect us when our target are jobs that pay minimum wages but because of exchange rate to Naira and other African currencies, we are proud to label it “good money”. Why do we always think so small? Why is it that the only business Africans run is a tiny African shop that caters for only Africans? An Indian moves to Australia. He is accommodated by his friends. He saves up money, teams up with friends and they buy 7-Eleven franchise. He employs and brings in 5 more people from India to work in the 7-Eleven shop. The white guy who goes into that Indian owned 7-Eleven is bound to respect because he knows they are visibly contributing to the Australian economy. The cold fact of life is no one respects an economically backward people. There was a time when Caucasians used to look down on Chinese, but today it is classy to go to Chinese restaurants and it is also a sign of sophistication to eat with chopsticks! Let’s start dominating wherever we find ourselves. If you have the capital or resources or know rich politicians back home, convince them to start investing in Australia. There are lots of opportunities in real estate and other businesses. Trust me, you can never imagine the impact it would have on our beautiful race and its people. Let’s cultivate the habit of selflessness.
I thank the moderator, creators and the selfless contributors on Living in Australia and A Guide to Permanent Residency in Australia on Nairaland. These platforms have assisted a lot of people and is continuing to assist thousands of people. That is what we are talking about. I benefited immensely from these threads. Ironically, some people who have benefited are the ones who are mute now after receiving the PR and are settled in Australia. Let’s us learn to share information just like other races.

Be firm and assertive
You are on the train and someone racially abuses you. What are you going to do? Sit there and smile? Hell no! Calmly but firmly give it back to him. Watch your words though so you do not in anger racially abuse him too and you know what? They will not hesitate to sue you at the drop of a pin. If possible, use your phone to record the encounter so you can have evidence that will be presented when you approach human rights commission later.
At work, being assertive is good because it is a proactive approach. If they know you don’t take nonsense, they are less likely to say things that will annoy you.

Having said all these, racism in Australia is not as bad as people say. Most Australians are friendly. On the street, no one cares what you look like and in the offices and workplaces, there are strong laws that prevent people from discrimination.
The people who complain the most are the ones who are guilty of it. They are the people whose country are ranked No. 1 on the list of racially intolerant countries.

Racism is probably worse in the US compared to Australia, so guys if you are thinking of moving to Australia, please come over and have fun!




@GoodMemory

Good day bro
i just sent you a PM kindly reply.

Thanks

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by RealityShot: 1:36pm On Mar 25, 2019
GoodMemory:

"If you
have the capital or resources or know
rich politicians back home, convince
them to start investing in Australia."


we more interested in telling them to invest here and make a state like dubai here in Nigeria.


who Australia hepp?

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by suurutu: 4:44pm On Mar 25, 2019
@ Goodmemory

Great inspiration mate!

Keep it coming.

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Soblaz: 6:00pm On Mar 25, 2019
GoodMemory:

A lot has been said and written on the issue of racism in Australia. Most of the write-ups have come from non-Africans, usually Indians and Islanders and sometimes, but rarely, blacks who aren’t Africans. I believe racism/stereotypical behaviors towards these set of people might be different depending on the circumstances.
Personally, I feel Australians do not deserve the bad image which they have earned internationally as a racist country. It may have been because of the way and manner the Aboriginal people were treated or the growing concern about increased migration into Australia. In a survey, Australia, was ranked top as one of the most tolerant countries while India is ranked as the least tolerant country.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/15/a-fascinating-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/?utm_term=.4b318d97beda

In another survey by economic and trading group, Insider Monkey, India again ranked top country where people are racially least tolerant. Australia is not even on the list of racially intolerant countries.

https://businesstech.co.za/news/lifestyle/116644/the-most-racist-countries-in-the-world/

This is not an attempt to downplay racism in Australia. It is alive and well. However, what you will experience here is different from what immigrants in Canada, the USA, or the UK experience daily. For example, you may witness commuters not wanting to sit next to you in public transport, people going back to their car on seeing you, to check if their car door is safely locked, pedestrians changing lanes on sighting you from afar etc. the number and frequency is just the same whether you are in Vancouver, BC Canada, Texas in the US , Manchester in the UK or Melbourne in Australia. These acts are not on their own conclusively pointing to racism as a second meaning might be read to them. Pedestrian changing lanes might be doing it genuinely, commuters sometimes prefer standing to sitting, etc. Please note I am not holding briefs for perpetrators of racism.

As someone who has lived in a western country for 10 years before relocating to Australia, I can tell you one thing you will witness. Supremacy mentality. Superiority complex is pervasive in any first world countries or any nation with predominantly Caucasian population.
The average white person feels genetically superior to the next black person until circumstances prove him otherwise. A homeless guy, a slowpoke and a never-do-well feel they are better than a black person who is perhaps a medical doctor. Remember we are dealing with 400 odd years, age-long mentality.
Superiority complex will daily confront you at work, during social interactions etc.


As an African, here’s my top 4 ways that will help minimize racism. Some of them are long term approach but I think they have to happen before racism can be reduced.

Awareness
The first step to defeating any problem is having an awareness of the problem. Knowing the full strength of the problem helps to access the strategy and tactics to deal with the problem. Knowing your rights is another form of having awareness.
We need to be able to recognize tell-tale signs of racism. If convinced you are racially abused, call out the perpetrator and seek justice in Australian Human Rights Commission.
https://www.humanrights.gov.au.
Unfortunately, Black people are not known to escalate issues like this as they are quick to forgive people who racially abuse them. The fact is, you can forgive and still take your abuser to court. That has nothing to do with your religious instruction to forgive.

Black people should stick together
I do not advocate black people should create their own enclave and live there. I mean black people should learn to cooperate with themselves. We are quick to say “I avoid fellow Africans wherever I go because of my previous experience with them”. What I want to know is do you also avoid white people and Asians because of your experience in their hands? I doubt, otherwise you would have moved back to naija. Why are we quick to forgive other races and hold eternal grudges against people that look like us? Why are we quick to befriend others and reluctant to be friends with our own? As an example: My kids were the only black kids in the school until this school term when another black kid, a Nigerian for that matter, joined them. The principal of the school had told us about the new kid, so we were looking forward to meeting them.
On the day we finally met, we were given a cold shoulder by the parents of the kid. We thought maybe they were introverts and were the type that reluctantly warmed up to strangers. Well, after several failed attempts to talk to them, we gave up. We hardly even say ‘hi” to each other anymore. What message do you think both of us had sent to other races in that school? To minimize racism, the culture of self-hate among black people has to stop.
When a people are united, it is hard for others to disrespect them. Are you the type who feels happy when he is told by other races “you are not like others”? If you were, then you need to know they (other races) are playing divide and rule on you.

Let’s start taking over
How do you expect others to respect us when we are constantly rocking the bottom of the social ladder of any society? How will others respect us when our target are jobs that pay minimum wages but because of exchange rate to Naira and other African currencies, we are proud to label it “good money”. Why do we always think so small? Why is it that the only business Africans run is a tiny African shop that caters for only Africans? An Indian moves to Australia. He is accommodated by his friends. He saves up money, teams up with friends and they buy 7-Eleven franchise. He employs and brings in 5 more people from India to work in the 7-Eleven shop. The white guy who goes into that Indian owned 7-Eleven is bound to respect because he knows they are visibly contributing to the Australian economy. The cold fact of life is no one respects an economically backward people. There was a time when Caucasians used to look down on Chinese, but today it is classy to go to Chinese restaurants and it is also a sign of sophistication to eat with chopsticks! Let’s start dominating wherever we find ourselves. If you have the capital or resources or know rich politicians back home, convince them to start investing in Australia. There are lots of opportunities in real estate and other businesses. Trust me, you can never imagine the impact it would have on our beautiful race and its people. Let’s cultivate the habit of selflessness.
I thank the moderator, creators and the selfless contributors on Living in Australia and A Guide to Permanent Residency in Australia on Nairaland. These platforms have assisted a lot of people and is continuing to assist thousands of people. That is what we are talking about. I benefited immensely from these threads. Ironically, some people who have benefited are the ones who are mute now after receiving the PR and are settled in Australia. Let’s us learn to share information just like other races.

Be firm and assertive
You are on the train and someone racially abuses you. What are you going to do? Sit there and smile? Hell no! Calmly but firmly give it back to him. Watch your words though so you do not in anger racially abuse him too and you know what? They will not hesitate to sue you at the drop of a pin. If possible, use your phone to record the encounter so you can have evidence that will be presented when you approach human rights commission later.
At work, being assertive is good because it is a proactive approach. If they know you don’t take nonsense, they are less likely to say things that will annoy you.

Having said all these, racism in Australia is not as bad as people say. Most Australians are friendly. On the street, no one cares what you look like and in the offices and workplaces, there are strong laws that prevent people from discrimination.
The people who complain the most are the ones who are guilty of it. They are the people whose country are ranked No. 1 on the list of racially intolerant countries.

Racism is probably worse in the US compared to Australia, so guys if you are thinking of moving to Australia, please come over and have fun!




Thank you sir for your contribution... May God continue to strengthen you in his mercy.... Pls I wud like to have your e-mail or anywhere I can talk to you from... Need more of your enlightenment cus am planing to come in anytime soon.. Thanks
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by BusinessHub1: 6:09pm On Mar 25, 2019
Goodmemory God bless.. please don’t relent. Keep posting cos a lot of silent readers are enjoying your posts. Just last week I used the link you provided to practice that driving test to see how far I can go. Though my score was below 70 but I learnt few things. Keep up and thank you so far.

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by extraterestrial: 10:32pm On Mar 25, 2019
GoodMemory:

A lot has been said and written on the issue of racism in Australia. Most of the write-ups have come from non-Africans, usually Indians and Islanders and sometimes, but rarely, blacks who aren’t Africans. I believe racism/stereotypical behaviors towards these set of people might be different depending on the circumstances.
Personally, I feel Australians do not deserve the bad image which they have earned internationally as a racist country. It may have been because of the way and manner the Aboriginal people were treated or the growing concern about increased migration into Australia. In a survey, Australia, was ranked top as one of the most tolerant countries while India is ranked as the least tolerant country.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/15/a-fascinating-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/?utm_term=.4b318d97beda

In another survey by economic and trading group, Insider Monkey, India again ranked top country where people are racially least tolerant. Australia is not even on the list of racially intolerant countries.

https://businesstech.co.za/news/lifestyle/116644/the-most-racist-countries-in-the-world/

This is not an attempt to downplay racism in Australia. It is alive and well. However, what you will experience here is different from what immigrants in Canada, the USA, or the UK experience daily. For example, you may witness commuters not wanting to sit next to you in public transport, people going back to their car on seeing you, to check if their car door is safely locked, pedestrians changing lanes on sighting you from afar etc. the number and frequency is just the same whether you are in Vancouver, BC Canada, Texas in the US , Manchester in the UK or Melbourne in Australia. These acts are not on their own conclusively pointing to racism as a second meaning might be read to them. Pedestrian changing lanes might be doing it genuinely, commuters sometimes prefer standing to sitting, etc. Please note I am not holding briefs for perpetrators of racism.

As someone who has lived in a western country for 10 years before relocating to Australia, I can tell you one thing you will witness. Supremacy mentality. Superiority complex is pervasive in any first world countries or any nation with predominantly Caucasian population.
The average white person feels genetically superior to the next black person until circumstances prove him otherwise. A homeless guy, a slowpoke and a never-do-well feel they are better than a black person who is perhaps a medical doctor. Remember we are dealing with 400 odd years, age-long mentality.
Superiority complex will daily confront you at work, during social interactions etc.


As an African, here’s my top 4 ways that will help minimize racism. Some of them are long term approach but I think they have to happen before racism can be reduced.

Awareness
The first step to defeating any problem is having an awareness of the problem. Knowing the full strength of the problem helps to access the strategy and tactics to deal with the problem. Knowing your rights is another form of having awareness.
We need to be able to recognize tell-tale signs of racism. If convinced you are racially abused, call out the perpetrator and seek justice in Australian Human Rights Commission.
https://www.humanrights.gov.au.
Unfortunately, Black people are not known to escalate issues like this as they are quick to forgive people who racially abuse them. The fact is, you can forgive and still take your abuser to court. That has nothing to do with your religious instruction to forgive.

Black people should stick together
I do not advocate black people should create their own enclave and live there. I mean black people should learn to cooperate with themselves. We are quick to say “I avoid fellow Africans wherever I go because of my previous experience with them”. What I want to know is do you also avoid white people and Asians because of your experience in their hands? I doubt, otherwise you would have moved back to naija. Why are we quick to forgive other races and hold eternal grudges against people that look like us? Why are we quick to befriend others and reluctant to be friends with our own? As an example: My kids were the only black kids in the school until this school term when another black kid, a Nigerian for that matter, joined them. The principal of the school had told us about the new kid, so we were looking forward to meeting them.
On the day we finally met, we were given a cold shoulder by the parents of the kid. We thought maybe they were introverts and were the type that reluctantly warmed up to strangers. Well, after several failed attempts to talk to them, we gave up. We hardly even say ‘hi” to each other anymore. What message do you think both of us had sent to other races in that school? To minimize racism, the culture of self-hate among black people has to stop.
When a people are united, it is hard for others to disrespect them. Are you the type who feels happy when he is told by other races “you are not like others”? If you were, then you need to know they (other races) are playing divide and rule on you.

Let’s start taking over
How do you expect others to respect us when we are constantly rocking the bottom of the social ladder of any society? How will others respect us when our target are jobs that pay minimum wages but because of exchange rate to Naira and other African currencies, we are proud to label it “good money”. Why do we always think so small? Why is it that the only business Africans run is a tiny African shop that caters for only Africans? An Indian moves to Australia. He is accommodated by his friends. He saves up money, teams up with friends and they buy 7-Eleven franchise. He employs and brings in 5 more people from India to work in the 7-Eleven shop. The white guy who goes into that Indian owned 7-Eleven is bound to respect because he knows they are visibly contributing to the Australian economy. The cold fact of life is no one respects an economically backward people. There was a time when Caucasians used to look down on Chinese, but today it is classy to go to Chinese restaurants and it is also a sign of sophistication to eat with chopsticks! Let’s start dominating wherever we find ourselves. If you have the capital or resources or know rich politicians back home, convince them to start investing in Australia. There are lots of opportunities in real estate and other businesses. Trust me, you can never imagine the impact it would have on our beautiful race and its people. Let’s cultivate the habit of selflessness.
I thank the moderator, creators and the selfless contributors on Living in Australia and A Guide to Permanent Residency in Australia on Nairaland. These platforms have assisted a lot of people and is continuing to assist thousands of people. That is what we are talking about. I benefited immensely from these threads. Ironically, some people who have benefited are the ones who are mute now after receiving the PR and are settled in Australia. Let’s us learn to share information just like other races.

Be firm and assertive
You are on the train and someone racially abuses you. What are you going to do? Sit there and smile? Hell no! Calmly but firmly give it back to him. Watch your words though so you do not in anger racially abuse him too and you know what? They will not hesitate to sue you at the drop of a pin. If possible, use your phone to record the encounter so you can have evidence that will be presented when you approach human rights commission later.
At work, being assertive is good because it is a proactive approach. If they know you don’t take nonsense, they are less likely to say things that will annoy you.

Having said all these, racism in Australia is not as bad as people say. Most Australians are friendly. On the street, no one cares what you look like and in the offices and workplaces, there are strong laws that prevent people from discrimination.
The people who complain the most are the ones who are guilty of it. They are the people whose country are ranked No. 1 on the list of racially intolerant countries.

Racism is probably worse in the US compared to Australia, so guys if you are thinking of moving to Australia, please come over and have fun!




Amazing amazing right up. A lot of truths especially about the Chinese. In the last decade it was very different. Another funny fact is I have experienced racial discrimination from Indians even more than the Australian descents themselves. I am struggling to distinguish between racism and the superiority complex you say Caucasians have. I am of the Opinion that is what births racism and racial discrimination. In terms of choice jobs you were so Apt. I use myself as an example. On getting here the black community we met(church)..God bless their heart they were obviously trying to be helpful but the job choices they ruled out for us and advised us to get were all these factory job and the likes. I told my husband no matter what we can't loose sight of where we are going, you will write your AMC exams and practice as a doctor that you are. It's not easy I agree but nothing good comes easy . Thank you again for this.

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by extraterestrial: 10:45pm On Mar 25, 2019
RealityShot:
GoodMemory:

"If you
have the capital or resources or know
rich politicians back home, convince
them to start investing in Australia."


we more interested in telling them to invest here and make a state like dubai here in Nigeria.


who Australia hepp?
O yea I agree definitely I think we will earn the respect of the wider community if we build our economy and are self sustaining. Let them invest in Nigeria first please

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by GoodMemory: 11:52pm On Mar 25, 2019
extraterestrial:

O yea I agree definitely I think we will earn the respect of the wider community if we build our economy and are self sustaining. Let them invest in Nigeria first please

Realityshot & Extraterrestial

There is no hint in the write-up that suggests businessmen/politicians shouldn't invest in Nigeria. I only mentioned investment in Australia within the narrow context of gaining respect and helping immigrants in Australia.

Businessmen can invest in Nigeria, Australia or anywhere in the world. Proceeds and profits (in dollars) will be injected into Nigerian economy.

I completely agree with you that investing in Nigeria is very important and I think it probably should have been number 1 on the list. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by jukeblam(m): 4:53am On Mar 26, 2019
GoodMemory:


Be firm and assertive


(Quoting just a line to avoid clogging)

Well put. As I started reading, it seemed you were toeing the line of 'racism is minimal', but then I read further and couldn't agree more with - ''This is not an attempt to downplay racism in Australia''.

"Supremacy mentality'' is the apt description. Once some of them see black, they easily assume this person can't possibly know much; omo! the onus is on you to 'clear their doubts' straightaway- and I mean straight away, don't wait till another time. If you let it go the first time, it's harder to recover it. Clear any doubts the first time and when anyone approaches you again, they know how to - with the respect your role demands.

Speak up, clearly and pass your message- even to a superior colleague. No 'oga oga' mentality here. Also, know your job, so you say what you're confident of; and if you aren't certain, still speak confidently. I mean, there are times in life where you're not sure if it's socks first before shoes or shoes before socks. Just pick one and later you can send an email to everyone to 'reconfirm' and say it is "Socks before shoes oo. Regards."
Even in normal conversations, be assertive. Initial days here, I used to wonder 'Why is the guy speaking so loudly? I dey right in front of you here, less than 1m between us'...now I don join, haha

Something too is our Nigerian names and pronunciation. The one time I wish I had an English name was when I was submitting resumes allover trying to get the first job, haha. Now, say my Nigerian name and say it right is the order of the day.
I'm sure the world over knows and can pronounce 'Arnold Schwarzenegger', so why can't they pronounce your name?
Some won't even try- they can be that lazy (and bad at spelling too, which they proudly accept and say). If I can pronounce Morrison or Elizabeth or Shane, then you should be able to say my name properly. I'll say it and have them repeat it after me- otherwise, I won't 'comprehend' what you intend to say. After maybe the fourth attempt, we call it a day; next class is when you have something to say to me wink

Some say 'Your English is so good, how come?'; my reply: "Well, my country was colonised by the British, what else would you expect?!" grin


The Asians 'conglomerate' themselves and keep taking over industries, businesses and suburbs too; visit any GP clinic and it's usually a mix of Indian, Chinese and Nigerian doctors. We dey try but chance still dey to corner one industry although our population here is nowhere close to theirs.

After all said and done, the country is still good to live in, Nigerians here haven't carved out a bad reputation for us unlike in other countries, so it's not like the hairs on people's backs stand up when you say you're Nigerian- although some jokingly ask if you're the African prince and when do they get their $42 million dollars; I say ''Nah, that's my cousin but here, pay $5,750 only into this account for logistics and admin fees to bring the money over'' grin grin whereas some still don't know what we've 'built our reputation into' elsewhere.

And yes, we need more synergy here; often people try to stay aloof and not mix with other Nigerians; sure you are free to, but if a fellow Nigerian comes to you, why the cold shoulder? I mean, life is not as harsh as Naija has taught us. And there's still space for more people- no need for all those 'I better pass my neighbour' or 'I get haters' mentality here; leave all that and our Naija gragra behind with the body search people at Murtala Mohd check-in wey dey always say "Bros, anything for your sister?"

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by citizen202(m): 8:44am On Mar 26, 2019
trastar:


Is that for just you or a family of 7? anyways, thats 8k aud.
that's decent if you ask me. hopefully u will get a job before you spend all of that on rent and bond.
yes it is just me alone..can it work?
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by ukcatlover(m): 3:24am On Mar 27, 2019
Hello mates. Please do anyone know the process to renew Nigeria passport in Canberra, I live in Perth and I wanna know the process before travelling there. Thanks
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by ozonechrome: 3:57am On Mar 27, 2019
@jukeblam I honestly regret changing to my English name.
Most of my colleagues have very difficult foreign names which I learn to pronounce why shouldn't they learn mine

I've already made that mistake that's why I insisted my daughter will bear her native name and it's so long but they should learn to pronounce it and funny enough they pronounce it so well.

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Alphadoor: 5:07am On Mar 27, 2019
ukcatlover:
Hello mates. Please do anyone know the process to renew Nigeria passport in Canberra, I live in Perth and I wanna know the process before travelling there. Thanks
you do not need to visit them for enquiry

Kindly send an email to them stating your request and they will tell you what to do.

nhcc.admin@ foreignaffairs. gov. ng

Their response time is very good.
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by teewhysafe(f): 5:45am On Mar 27, 2019
Wow. Been awhile i came on here. Really interesting views.
Covert racism is practiced here but i found that asserting myself and being excellent at what I do earned me respect.

The one thing i initially missed about Nigeria was the food but recently i have come to discover almost all our local foods are available e.g. ewedu, mushrooms, dry fish, fresh efo tete/soko etc., Eating out is too expensive jare. Quick dash to Hungry Jack/MacDonalds can cost you $30 while buying 12kg of Semo is just $20 grin

Peope here like Going Dutch too lipsrsealed cry cry A friend had a birthday dinner in the city recently. We were a party of 6 in a chinese restaurant. When the bill was brought, we had spent about $400. We had to split it equally despite not eating the same ijekuje. Birthday celebrants rarely carry the total costs except very few who will rather have a home party.

Daycare in my area is about $110 per day with Centrelink paying about 50% of this. Gas bills is about $160 every 60days, Electricity is close to $300 per quarter, Water is roughly $80 per quarter.

Drivers license is gold really. My hubby got his licence at first drive test. I am at the last stage and still dreading to even book my drive test. My Sis did it 5 times before getting her license. I have not been driving for a long time hence my reluctance.

Inviting family to Australia was also an easy process, it took longer than we hoped but we were able to bring my mom over for Omugwo. Seeing Australia through her eyes was beautiful because she was enthralled by the system. The 24-hours light alone and access to Youtube all day to listen to her evergreen songs and countless Nollywood and mount zion movies kept her busy and occupied. There are also some nice tourist destinations such as Australia Botanical gardens, Melbourne Star wheel, Melbourne SeaLife etc...

Australia is really whatever you make of it. you learn to cut your coat according to your size. And also maximise sales to buy stuffs we need. Its almost a year and i am still learning...

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by ukcatlover(m): 5:59am On Mar 27, 2019
Thanks for the info

Alphadoor:

you do not need to visit them for enquiry

Kindly send an email to them stating your request and they will tell you what to do.

nhcc.admin@ foreignaffairs. gov. ng

Their response time is very good.

Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by teewhysafe(f): 6:04am On Mar 27, 2019
View of Melbourne CBD from the Star wheel (that big thing that resembles a roundabout grin)

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Nobody: 11:42am On Mar 27, 2019
GoodMemory:



Black people should stick together
I do not advocate black people should create their own enclave and live there. I mean black people should learn to cooperate with themselves. We are quick to say “I avoid fellow Africans wherever I go because of my previous experience with them”. What I want to know is do you also avoid white people and Asians because of your experience in their hands? I doubt, otherwise you would have moved back to naija. Why are we quick to forgive other races and hold eternal grudges against people that look like us? Why are we quick to befriend others and reluctant to be friends with our own? As an example: My kids were the only black kids in the school until this school term when another black kid, a Nigerian for that matter, joined them. The principal of the school had told us about the new kid, so we were looking forward to meeting them.
On the day we finally met, we were given a cold shoulder by the parents of the kid. We thought maybe they were introverts and were the type that reluctantly warmed up to strangers. Well, after several failed attempts to talk to them, we gave up. We hardly even say ‘hi” to each other anymore. What message do you think both of us had sent to other races in that school? To minimize racism, the culture of self-hate among black people has to stop.
When a people are united, it is hard for others to disrespect them. Are you the type who feels happy when he is told by other races “you are not like others”? If you were, then you need to know they (other races) are playing divide and rule on you.

Let’s start taking over
How do you expect others to respect us when we are constantly rocking the bottom of the social ladder of any society? How will others respect us when our target are jobs that pay minimum wages but because of exchange rate to Naira and other African currencies, we are proud to label it “good money”. Why do we always think so small? Why is it that the only business Africans run is a tiny African shop that caters for only Africans? An Indian moves to Australia. He is accommodated by his friends. He saves up money, teams up with friends and they buy 7-Eleven franchise. He employs and brings in 5 more people from India to work in the 7-Eleven shop. The white guy who goes into that Indian owned 7-Eleven is bound to respect because he knows they are visibly contributing to the Australian economy. The cold fact of life is no one respects an economically backward people. There was a time when Caucasians used to look down on Chinese, but today it is classy to go to Chinese restaurants and it is also a sign of sophistication to eat with chopsticks! Let’s start dominating wherever we find ourselves. If you have the capital or resources or know rich politicians back home, convince them to start investing in Australia. There are lots of opportunities in real estate and other businesses. Trust me, you can never imagine the impact it would have on our beautiful race and its people. Let’s cultivate the habit of selflessness.
I thank the moderator, creators and the selfless contributors on Living in Australia and A Guide to Permanent Residency in Australia on Nairaland. These platforms have assisted a lot of people and is continuing to assist thousands of people. That is what we are talking about. I benefited immensely from these threads. Ironically, some people who have benefited are the ones who are mute now after receiving the PR and are settled in Australia. Let’s us learn to share information just like other races.




These points are gold.
Thanks for sharing your experience.

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Alphadoor: 12:02am On Mar 28, 2019
Driving: NSW Perspective
Obtaining a driver's license seem over-rated in my own opinion, people have attached so much brouhaha to obtaining one. It's not that hard. My advise is this, if you are a able to get a car on arrival, try and obtain one after four weeks of driving around and engage a driving instructor before taking the real test (they usually charge between $30 -$50 an hour. If you don't have a car, Book at least 4 hrs lesson with a driving instructor ($150 to $300) and on the test day, you can hire same car for your driving test which will cost about $80 /$100.

The first step is passing your Driver's Knowledge Test aka DKT which cost $47 per attempt, with good practice, you should be able to ace this once.
https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/licence/driver/tests/practice-dkt.html
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.coco.dktnsw&hl=en check IOS Appstore for same. This is best mobile app, master this and your good to go.

After Passing the DKT, the next step is the Driving Test (DT) which cost $57 per attempt.

After a successful driving test you, you will have to pay for the full license
Full license ,
1 year: $58
3 years: $136
5 years: $184
10 years: $342


After all the up and down.. you will be issued the golden ID...

One key thing I noticed that has helped to manage traffic here is lane management. you cannot be switching lane anyhow and making turning as if its your back yard and of course the fear of fine and repairing of expensive cars is the beginning of wisdom. one fine can be between 10 to 100% of your weekly income


WORK PLACE:
In as much as you don't want to be all over the place, you don't want to keep to yourself more than necessary. Mingle and Interact with people as much as you can while maintaining professional boundaries, as mentioned in some post, don't get saddle with the mentality of superiority and inferiority complex. Excel at what you and you will be fine. Also be careful not to tag every negative action towards you as racism, some people are just down right nasty people no matter your color of skin. You have to hold your head high all the time.
Another thing is learning to integrate with other cultures as Australia is really culturally diverse. Learn to be flexible and adaptable, over rigid and mental stiffness can be a setback.
I remember one thing I was invited to a birthday lunch of my team mate, I had assumed we will each pay for what we ate so I had ordered a lunch I can afford $20 but I ended up paying $50 grin as the overall bill was shared per each attendant.


INTERNET
Stay away from ADSL+, ADSL2 connections, they are very unreliable. If your location does not have NBN connection, Kindly opt for 4G home wifi Modems, although they cost a bit more, it's totally worth it. An handle once mentioned he had a terrible internet experience on this thread and it became a frenzy. Another trick to save cost is bundling your home and internet plan with same provider.

ELECTRICITY:
My first bill was $483 from Nov18-Mar19. The thing no dey blink.. so no issues paying for it.

INCOME MANAGEMENT:
This is not a matter of the man is the head of the family,or my wife must not work or this is my money, or my wife/husband cannot know how much I earn. here in Straya, Its FAMILY INCOME, both parties must pool income together with total transparency. So all hands on deck is what I do preach except in certain circumstances.

lastly
On behalf of those asking those keeping mute to say something, I urge you all to give people some time to come around. Some of them maybe going through a tough time one way or another. Coming to nairaland is the last thing on their mind. The bills don't wait for you to settle down in this country.

Let me borrow from teewhysafe quote

Australia is really whatever you make of it. you learn to cut your coat according to your size. And also maximise sales to buy stuffs we need. Its almost a year and i am still learning...
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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Bnimz(m): 1:28am On Mar 29, 2019
My Ogas don talk everything there is to say..

Nothing more to add cheesy
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by JewelStone(f): 12:24pm On Mar 29, 2019
Royal54:
@ Jewelstone, do you mind if I send you a PM, please?
Yeah sure. Sorry for late response, haven't been here for a while.
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by JewelStone(f): 12:31pm On Mar 29, 2019
It's really nice reading everyone's experiences, thanks for sharing.

My experience in Sydney/Straya is somewhat unconventional, but I do hope to share it soon. Lol

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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by JewelStone(f): 12:39pm On Mar 29, 2019
FBS:
Drove in Sydney and just couldn't wait to get out. Omo, madness full that place o! cameras everywhere yet some people just dont give a toss. cheesy
Haha in Sydney we train ourselves to spot speed/red light camera signs and cops patrol cars miles ahead and slow down accordingly. Mastering this skill affords us the luxury of driving how we like without fines. Lol

Seriously though, most drivers here go above the speed limit and everyone is always in a rush. It's a rat race!

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