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Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by YellowSimba(op): 5:37am On Mar 25, 2019
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by Opexzy: 5:48am On Mar 25, 2019
Nope... They are two different thing... One was a voluntary union with very great prospect and explainable reasons... While the other is a union based on our colonial masters selfish interest to bring their colony into a union
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by YellowSimba(op): 8:13am On Mar 25, 2019
You dont think they are the same kind of struggle for freedom?

Opexzy:
Nope... They are two different thing... One was a voluntary union with very great prospect and explainable reasons... While the other is a union based on our colonial masters selfish interest to bring their colony into a union
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by Opexzy: 8:48am On Mar 25, 2019
YellowSimba:
You dont think they are the same kind of struggle for freedom?
Brexit isn't about freedom... European union (i mean the rest of the countries in EU) benefits from United Kingdom and United Kingdom benefit from them as well... This is more like a mutual benefit...

People only clamor for freedom when they are in slavery. In the case of Brexit. It's more like a divorce

Brexit is more like a contract termination and you know contracts are bounded by agreements..

Even the case of Biafra can not be likened to that of the United Kingdom because every nation in the UK are bounded by an act that is boldly represented in the constitution therefore can be separated by same act in the constitution...

In the case of biafra there is no constitution binding the regions... Our constitution was created after the amalgamation in 1914... So we started as a sovereign state together. The major issue now is simply because none of the regions exhibit total sovereignty before amalgamation. This is the major reason while any advocacy for a breakup can be treated as treasonous by the federal government
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by gidgiddy: 8:59am On Mar 25, 2019
I think that BREXIT and the current agitation are similar in terms of the fact that it is an agitation where a group of people want to leave a political union for something new

Where they differ is that while Britain is a sovereign nation, Biafra isn't.

The lesson Brexit should teach Nigerians is that everybody has the right to decide where they want to be. "One Nigeria" is nothing but "unity by force"
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by YellowSimba(op): 9:07am On Mar 25, 2019
Do you feel like Biafran agitation is as legitimate as Brexit
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by YellowSimba(op): 9:08am On Mar 25, 2019
You feel like Biafran referendum would go the same was as the Brexit referendum?

Opexzy:
Brexit isn't about freedom... European union (i mean the rest of the countries in EU) benefits from United Kingdom and United Kingdom benefit from them as well... This is more like a mutual benefit...

People only clamor for freedom when they are in slavery. In the case of Brexit. It's more like a divorce

Brexit is more like a contract termination and you know contracts are bounded by agreements..

Even the case of Biafra can not be likened to that of the United Kingdom because every nation in the UK are bounded by an act that is boldly represented in the constitution therefore can be separated by same act in the constitution...

In the case of biafra there is no constitution binding the regions... Our constitution was created after the amalgamation in 1914... So we started as a sovereign state together. The major issue now is simply because none of the regions exhibit total sovereignty before amalgamation. This is the major reason while any advocacy for a breakup can be treated as treasonous by the federal government
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by DejiSantos: 2:44pm On Mar 25, 2019
Brexit and Biafra are very similar.

YellowSimba:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-3DbRA0Tzg
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by gidgiddy: 3:07pm On Mar 25, 2019
YellowSimba:
Do you feel like Biafran agitation is as legitimate as Brexit
Self determination is recognized in international law
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by ibotic(f): 3:19pm On Mar 25, 2019
I honestly want referendum drafted into the constitution so the ibos can go with their four states....honestly look at the economic data....these people contribute nothing but mass migration to our lands.....we need their visa money and increased taxes as most will still want to stay in Nigeria even as immigrants.
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by Preshy561(f): 3:23pm On Mar 25, 2019
ibotic:
I honestly want referendum drafted into the constitution so the ibos can go with their four states....honestly look at the economic data....these people contribute nothing but mass migration to our lands.....we need their visa money and increased taxes as most will still want to stay in Nigeria even as immigrants.
When Biafra comes, we will have those things that your zoogeria govt denied us of that made some of our kinsmen to migrate to Lagos, due to the fact that we are the highest in importation business.
Lagos will be depopulated, and then, hunger will.set in since you guys won't see anyone to do your owo mida again on.
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by wirinet(m): 4:07pm On Mar 25, 2019
gidgiddy:
I think that BREXIT and the current agitation are similar in terms of the fact that it is an agitation where a group of people want to leave a [b] political union [/b]for something new
European Union is not a political union but an economic union just like ECOWAS or African Union. Political unions are more difficult to break than economic unions.

Where they differ is that while Britain is a sovereign nation, Biafra isn't.

The lesson Brexit should teach Nigerians is that everybody has the right to decide where they want to be. "One Nigeria" is nothing but "unity by force"
No lessons whatsoever as comparing an economic union with a political union is like comparing ice with steam.

Once a political unit is formed, it takes great efforts and upheavals (most times war) to break. Even the US fought a civil war to remain united. It will be near impossible for any of the 13 original states that formed the United States or any of the 37 that joined since to just decide to secede, because "everyone has the right to secede"
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by wirinet(m): 4:13pm On Mar 25, 2019
Preshy561:
When Biafra comes, we will have those things that your zoogeria govt denied us of that made some of our kinsmen to migrate to Lagos, due to the fact that we are the highest in importation business.
Lagos will be depopulated, and then, hunger will.set in since you guys won't see anyone to do your owo mida again on.
You guys have an over exaggerated ego. Lagos with a population of over 20 million will go hungry because 6 - 8 million of you guys decide to leave? Are you guys the farmers that feed the people of Lagos? You guys are not even involved in the food trading business.
Most of the petty trading you guys engage in is not taxable and contribute little to Lagos IGR

In addition, importation business is going out of fashion. Jumia, jiji, alibaba, aliexpress, eBay, payport, amazon, etc, are taking over.
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by MetaPhysical: 4:13pm On Mar 25, 2019
Opexzy:
Brexit isn't about freedom... European union (i mean the rest of the countries in EU) benefits from United Kingdom and United Kingdom benefit from them as well... This is more like a mutual benefit...

People only clamor for freedom when they are in slavery. In the case of Brexit. It's more like a divorce

Brexit is more like a contract termination and you know contracts are bounded by agreements..

Even the case of Biafra can not be likened to that of the United Kingdom because every nation in the UK are bounded by an act that is boldly represented in the constitution therefore can be separated by same act in the constitution...

In the case of biafra there is no constitution binding the regions... Our constitution was created after the amalgamation in 1914... So we started as a sovereign state together. The major issue now is simply because none of the regions exhibit total sovereignty before amalgamation. This is the major reason while any advocacy for a breakup can be treated as treasonous by the federal government
I agree and like your intelligent clarification on the subject. Im curious about the bolded.

Define sovereingty in the sense you presented and fitted it in here.
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by ibotic(f): 4:17pm On Mar 25, 2019
Preshy561:
When Biafra comes, we will have those things that your zoogeria govt denied us of that made some of our kinsmen to migrate to Lagos, due to the fact that we are the highest in importation business.
Lagos will be depopulated, and then, hunger will.set in since you guys won't see anyone to do your owo mida again on.
In your myopic mind ......you guys will kill each other,.....and be asking for a return visa.....seriously I just want the SW depopulated even if Biafra comes....Yorubas are too tolerant.....we know Britain has not experienced half of the SW immigration but today they are shouting Brexit.
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by olagbola45(m): 4:23pm On Mar 25, 2019
Preshy561:
When Biafra comes, we will have those things that your zoogeria govt denied us of that made some of our kinsmen to migrate to Lagos, due to the fact that we are the highest in importation business.
Lagos will be depopulated, and then, hunger will.set in since you guys won't see anyone to do your owo mida again on.
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by SuperIgbo1(m): 4:34pm On Mar 25, 2019
ibotic:
In your myopic mind ......you guys will kill each other,.....and be asking for a return visa.....seriously I just want the SW depopulated even if Biafra comes....Yorubas are too tolerant.....we know Britain has not experienced half of the SW immigration but today they are shouting Brexit.
The same unintelligent drivel. If Biafra becomes a reality, it would be a member of Ecowas and, Ecowas allows movement within member states without a Visa.

And, stop comparing your phantom Odour'dua republic with Britian. As far as, Nigeria remains one, no person can stop Igbos from migrating to Lagos, a former federal capital. You can keep fantasizing like the regular Yoruba person.
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by Preshy561(f): 4:38pm On Mar 25, 2019
ibotic:
In your myopic mind ......you guys will kill each other,.....and be asking for a return visa.....seriously I just want the SW depopulated even if Biafra comes....Yorubas are too tolerant.....we know Britain has not experienced half of the SW immigration but today they are shouting Brexit.
Lmao. Leave to kill ourselves naa, is it your killing?
You should be worried about the fast rising of your religious intolerance that will soon escalate to terrorism in your region.
I can see how your region is fairing well with the most profound profession called 'agbero ' that's killing and extorting your people.
Please, worry about yourselves, as you can see, we aren't concerned about whatever happens in your region.
So, fvck off.
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by Preshy561(f): 4:43pm On Mar 25, 2019
wirinet:
You guys have an over exaggerated ego. Lagos with a population of over 20 million will go hungry because 6 - 8 million of you guys decide to leave? Are you guys the farmers that feed the people of Lagos? You guys are not even involved in the food trading business.
Most of the petty trading you guys engage in is not taxable and contribute little to Lagos IGR

In addition, importation business is going out of fashion. Jumia, jiji, alibaba, aliexpress, eBay, payport, amazon, etc, are taking over.
Yes, you guys will be very hungry Just like your brothers in ondo, osun, ogun, ekiti that always look malnourished due to a absense of densed Igbo population.
And I'm sure you are from one of these aforementioned state.
Go and kill yourself.
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by SuperIgbo1(m): 4:48pm On Mar 25, 2019
wirinet:
You guys have an over exaggerated ego. Lagos with a population of over 20 million will go hungry because 6 - 8 million of you guys decide to leave? Are you guys the farmers that feed the people of Lagos? You guys are not even involved in the food trading business.
Most of the petty trading you guys engage in is not taxable and contribute little to Lagos IGR

In addition, importation business is going out of fashion. Jumia, jiji, alibaba, aliexpress, eBay, payport, amazon, etc, are taking over.

Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by ibotic(f): 4:50pm On Mar 25, 2019
SuperIgbo1:
The same unintelligent drivel. If Biafra becomes a reality, it would be a member of Ecowas and, Ecowas allows movement within member states without a Visa.

And, stop comparing your phantom Odour'dua republic with Britian. As far as, Nigeria remains one, no person can stop Igbos from migrating to Lagos, a former federal capital. You can keep fantasizing like the regular Yoruba person.
You cannot have it both ways and lagos is not the only former capital of Nigeria....there was lokoja and Calabar....why no go to those places toohuh...

Besides ibos are all over the SW not just lagos. When we get restructuring....immigration will be made more difficult for those who come in and contribute not thing apart from clog up the traffic with road side sellers after abandoning lands where their leaders embezzle their state funds only to come and invest in the south west.... embarassed

We don’t hate you people but you people are flooding our lands....lagos island was only capital for 18yrs out on Nigeria’s existence since 1914.....
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by wirinet(m): 4:51pm On Mar 25, 2019
Preshy561:
Yes, you guys will be very hungry Just like your brothers in ondo, osun, ogun, ekiti that always look malnourished due to a absense of densed Igbo population.
And I'm sure you are from one of these aforementioned state.
Go and kill yourself.
Did not know igbos were farmers, that feed areas with dense Igbo population. Heard you feed them also in Banjul, Pretoria, Kuala Lumpur, Beijing.

I am from a state that feeds you and the rest of Nigeria. If your state don't come and collect the allocations we allow you every month, you will die of starvation.
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by ibotic(f): 4:52pm On Mar 25, 2019
Preshy561:
Lmao. Leave to kill ourselves naa, is it your killing?
You should be worried about the fast rising of your religious intolerance that will soon escalate to terrorism in your region.
I can see how your region is fairing well with the most profound profession called 'agbero ' that's killing and extorting your people.
Please, worry about yourselves, as you can see, we aren't concerned about whatever happens in your region.
So, fvck off.
The southeast should get their Biafra as they want and leave the SW alone...
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by Preshy561(f): 4:55pm On Mar 25, 2019
wirinet:
Did not know igbos were farmers, that feed areas with dense Igbo population. Heard you feed them also in Banjul, Pretoria, Kuala Lumpur, Beijing.

I am from a state that feeds you and the rest of Nigeria. If your state don't come and collect the allocations we allow you every month, you will die of starvation.
Says someone from ijebu cheesy cheesy
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by ibotic(f): 4:59pm On Mar 25, 2019
Preshy561:
Says someone from ijebu cheesy cheesy
His point is still valid...honestly ibos contribute nothing to Nigeria...just fake spare parts which waste our foreign exchange and petty traders by the streets....

I don’t know why this stupid federal government does not grant referendum and let these people go. I just hope it will not become a case like the British who chose Brexit but now refuse to leave the EUhuh....ibos must go....enough is enough.....
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by Preshy561(f): 5:06pm On Mar 25, 2019
ibotic:
His point is still valid...honestly ibos contribute nothing to Nigeria...just fake spare parts which waste our foreign exchange and petty traders by the streets....

I don’t know why this stupid federal government does not grant referendum and let these people go. I just hope it will not become a case like the British who chose Brexit but now refuse to leave the EUhuh....ibos must go....enough is enough.....
Tell your kinsmen to stop antagonizing our struggle, we have always wanted to stay on our own.
Ebonyi is there for us in terms of agriculture, Imo and Enugu, den of entertainment and tourism, Anambra and Abia, China of Africa, you see, we've got nothing to fear.
So, we can't be working on a fruitless country.
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by gidgiddy: 5:16pm On Mar 25, 2019
wirinet:
European Union is not a political union but an economic union just like ECOWAS or African Union. Political unions are more difficult to break than economic unions.
Not true, infact, the best way to describe the EU is that it is a confederation. The EU is a loose political union of 27 countries. The reason the EU is a political union is that all the countries in it are not only bound by EU law, they are also bound by the European court of justice(ECJ) as well as EU parliament. When two or more entities are subject to the same laws, they are a political union



No lessons whatsoever as comparing an economic union with a political union is like comparing ice with steam.

Once a political unit is formed, it takes great efforts and upheavals (most times war) to break. Even the US fought a civil war to remain united. It will be near impossible for any of the 13 original states that formed the United States or any of the 37 that joined since to just decide to secede, because "everyone has the right to secede"
The lesson of Brexit is that referendum can be used to determine which union, political or otherwise, which people want belong to rather than going to war.
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by SuperIgbo1(m): 5:18pm On Mar 25, 2019
ibotic:
You cannot have it both ways and lagos is not the only former capital of Nigeria....there was lokoja and Calabar....why no go to those places toohuh...

Besides ibos are all over the SW not just lagos. When we get restructuring....immigration will be made more difficult for those who come in and contribute not thing apart from clog up the traffic with road side sellers after abandoning lands where their leaders embezzle their state funds only to come and invest in the south west.... embarassed

We don’t hate you people but you people are flooding our lands....lagos island was only capital for 18yrs out on Nigeria’s existence since 1914.....
Who says Igbo are not living in other parts of Nigeria? During the oil boom in the 70s, Gowon invested a lot in Lagos with the oil proceeds. The national theater was built, many bridges and roads were constructed also.

Gowon introduced the 3rs policy yet, reconstruction started in Lagos even though, a mortar never fell in Lagos. Lagos had a special attention during Gowon's administration. The funding for the construction of the bridges, roads and, other infrastructures came from the oil producing parts of Igbo land and, other oil producing areas. That been said, Igbos were living in Lagos before the amalgamation and independence of Nigeria and, that was way before your parents migrated from Ile ife. Now you think you can dictate to the Igbos living in Lagos?

Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by ibotic(f): 5:20pm On Mar 25, 2019
Preshy561:
Tell your kinsmen to stop antagonizing our struggle, we have always wanted to stay on our own.
Ebonyi is there for us in terms of agriculture, Imo and Enugu, den of entertainment and tourism, Anambra and Abia, China of Africa, you see, we've got nothing to fear.
So, we can't be working on a fruitless country.
Yorubas don’t care about your struggle until you drag them in with your insults.
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by ibotic(f): 5:28pm On Mar 25, 2019
SuperIgbo1:
Who says Igbo are not living in other parts of Nigeria? During the oil boom in the 70s, Gowon invested a lot in Lagos with the oil proceeds. The national theater was built, many bridges and roads were constructed also.

Gowon introduced the 3rs policy yet, reconstruction started in Lagos even though, a mortar never fell in Lagos. Lagos had a special attention during Gowon's administration. The funding for the construction of the bridges, roads and, other infrastructures came from the oil producing parts of Igbo land and, other oil producing areas. That been said, Igbos were living in Lagos before the amalgamation and independence of Nigeria and, that was way before your parents migrated from Ile ife. Now you think you can dictate to the Igbos living in Lagos?
This migration has exceeded by far those figures and need to stop. Secondly oil is not in ibo land. Thirdly ibos are all over Yorubaland and not just lagos....remember the flogging of your king in akure by the Dejihuh Fourthly.....Abuja has much more oil spent on it than lagos....please kindly face that side. Fifthly....only lagos island was the capital and that was for only 18 Years....why not go to other former capitals like calabar and lokoja?
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by DejiSantos: 6:00pm On Mar 25, 2019
You misunderstand economics.

Lagos would collapse without it's Igbo traders stimulating it's economy.

wirinet:
You guys have an over exaggerated ego. Lagos with a population of over 20 million will go hungry because 6 - 8 million of you guys decide to leave? Are you guys the farmers that feed the people of Lagos? You guys are not even involved in the food trading business.
Most of the petty trading you guys engage in is not taxable and contribute little to Lagos IGR

In addition, importation business is going out of fashion. Jumia, jiji, alibaba, aliexpress, eBay, payport, amazon, etc, are taking over.
Re: Can You Compare Biafra To Brexit? by wirinet(m): 7:07pm On Mar 25, 2019
DejiSantos:
You misunderstand economics.

Lagos would collapse without it's Igbo traders stimulating it's economy.
You that understand economics, please explain how traders are responsible for stimulating the economy of Lagos in these modern times.

First let's ask how many people here patronise Igbo traders daily.

Why not examine the lagos economy and estimate what percentage is contributed by Igbo traders.

I for example buy most of my gadgets and electronics online. Maybe people buying Tokunbo items patronise Igbo traders, but those buying new items buy online.

My wife buys most of her foodstuffs from hausa traders at Sabo market.

Most betting and lotto companies in Lagos are owned and operated by yorubas. Betting and lotto contribute a huge percentage to lagos revenue.

Manufacturing in Lagos is dominated by Chinese, Indian and other foreign companies, with some indigenous companies ie Dangote, honeywell. A few Igbo companies are into drug manufacturing.
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