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Binikingdowm:
Yorubas are good at lies and twisting documented facts.

When oduduwa was banished from Benin, the roads he passed is still here in Benin.

The family that wanted to take over Benin rulership, the ogiamen is still here.

Benin is east to ife, it's a fact Yoruba believed oduduwa came from the East.

Yoruba also believe he fell from heaven, oduduwa was a child of an ogiso, which means "kings of the skies".

Yoruba's should accept the facts and be proud that a Benin man discovered them

Which one are we to believe now??
That Yoruba came from Benin kingdom or Benin kingdom came from the Yoruba race??

Besides can you give us concrete evidences( if possible pictures inclusive) about this. You can even create a thread on this.

Am confuse here,
if oduduwa is father of yorubas,who is father of oduduwa?

Onijagidijagan:
You mean the Ipods yoot? I have traveled to the northern part, the Hausas keep reminding the Yorubas just the Benins that Odudua is an Hausa man.

Probably Igbo people will soon claim him too... Who doesn't like good things?

Igbo people to claim the wicked thing Called oduduwa,

my brother clean your mouth.

loveth360:
Igbo people to claim the wicked thing Called oduduwa,

my brother clean your mouth.

Just wait and see. Everybody likes to associate with good things. Don't forget West side is the Best side.

Onijagidijagan:
Just wait and see. Everybody likes to associate with good things. Don't forget West side is the Best side.

he is good thing.then why did they throw him down from sky.

MyVILLAGEpeople:
Which one are we to believe now??
That Yoruba came from Benin kingdom or Benin kingdom came from the Yoruba race??

Besides can you give us concrete evidences( if possible pictures inclusive) about this. You can even create a thread on this.

Yoruba's and Benin have already been existing separately long before oduduwa came.

Oduduwa only came across the present Yoruba in ile Ife when he was wandering around the forest. The people found him and took him in.

The first word he spoke to them is "ile Ife" a corrupted version of Benin "I've run to wealth".

After he was banished, this " ogiamen" family wanted to take over the ruler ship of Benin but was resisted so that caused caused in the then "igodomigodo".

Oduduwa told the Yoruba's he met at ile Ife that he was banished and was from " ogiso " which in Benin means "king of the sky".

Every thing oduduwa said can still be confirmed here in Benin, even the ogiamen family is still here trying to claim over the throne.

The Benin has no reason to lie, oduduwa married a Yoruba woman and sent his son to Benin which was part Yoruba and Benin, since Benin was in chao, he left and called the place " ile ibenu"

Oyo empire conquered Dahomey present Benin republic.

MyVILLAGEpeople:
Never heard of that though. So are you saying the Dahomey kingdom( present Benin republic) was once conquered by the Benin kingdom??

I don't like arguing the fact like benin people .Benin historian refused to show us a concrete evidence that Yoruba people came from Benin. However Yoruba historian provided fact that oromiyan was sent to Benin. But despite this fact there is no evidence that oromiyan is aboriginal because when he got to Benin he married a king daughter that gave birth to eweka.

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EdiAbali:
There is no conflict whether Yoruba originated from Benin Kingdom or vice versa

It was very clear that Oduduwa was a prince from Benin kingdom sent on exile

The Yoruba don't want to accept this historical fact because of their ego. This won't change the truth that the prince of Benin Kingdom was the Father of Yoruba people.
The Oba of Lagos who is a descendant of Benin Prince have confirmed it so many times
Yoruba people should accept it and be proud as descendants of the Great Benin Kingdom just like every other group in the Niger Delta and stop the so called yeye conflicts.

[/s]Stop talking rubbish and call it fact. All these ravitionists. Yorubas are many in numbers compare to Benin. Your distortion won't change the truth. Benin originated from yorubas just like ekitis, akokos, ondos, Akures, ijesha, egba etc.

Binikingdowm:
Yoruba's and Benin have already been existing separately long before oduduwa came.

Oduduwa only came across the present Yoruba in ile Ife when he was wandering around the forest. The people found him and took him in.

The first word he spoke to them is "ile Ife" a corrupted version of Benin "I've run to wealth".

After he was banished, this " ogiamen" family wanted to take over the ruler ship of Benin but was resisted so that caused caused in the then "igodomigodo".

Oduduwa told the Yoruba's he met at ile Ife that he was banished and was from " ogiso " which in Benin means "king of the sky".

Every thing oduduwa said can still be confirmed here in Benin, even the ogiamen family is still here trying to claim over the throne.

The Benin has no reason to lie, oduduwa married a Yoruba woman and sent his son to Benin which was part Yoruba and Benin, since Benin was in chao, he left and called the place " ile ibenu"

hmmm
But the Yorubas will also say otherwise.

MyVILLAGEpeople:
hmmm
But the Yorubas will also say otherwise.

because they were raised like that, they try to twist history because of ego problem.

How would a sane human being believe oduduwa trekked from meccai to ile Ife? Or he was banished from heaven

BuhariAdvocate:
Oyo empire conquered Dahomey present Benin republic.

Yeah.. I heard so too.

Binikingdowm:
because they were raised like that, they try to twist history because of ego problem.

How would a sane human being believe oduduwa trekked from meccai to ile Ife? Or he was banished from heaven

loool
I think the problem here is, they(Yorubas) have evidences to back up their claims too. So how can we know the authentic history??

Binikingdowm:
they preferred to be slaves to Hausa Fulani than to be friends to the benins

We the igbos don't call them fulani slaves for nothing. Just imagine?

Binikingdowm:
Yoruba's and Benin have already been existing separately long before oduduwa came.

Oduduwa only came across the present Yoruba in ile Ife when he was wandering around the forest. The people found him and took him in.

The first word he spoke to them is "ile Ife" a corrupted version of Benin "I've run to wealth".

After he was banished, this " ogiamen" family wanted to take over the ruler ship of Benin but was resisted so that caused caused in the then "igodomigodo".

Oduduwa told the Yoruba's he met at ile Ife that he was banished and was from " ogiso " which in Benin means "king of the sky".

Every thing oduduwa said can still be confirmed here in Benin, even the ogiamen family is still here trying to claim over the throne.

The Benin has no reason to lie, oduduwa married a Yoruba woman and sent his son to Benin which was part Yoruba and Benin, since Benin was in chao, he left and called the place " ile ibenu"

This a pathetic lie

ile ife have long existed even before the advent of oduduwa.

The ewe of Ghana have historical links with ife, Yorubas in Togo are even known as Ife-togo or Anago.

Onijagidijagan:
Just wait and see. Everybody likes to associate with good things. Don't forget West side is the Best side.

You should bring logical arguments to counter the hard facts from benin people here and keep igbo out of your misery

icebird25:
And I don't know how Benin kingdom who's the second oldest kingdom in Africa after king pharoah ...will originate from youruba it sounds strange..


Before he was called the ancient city of Benin una think say na by play abi

Second oldest my foot. Seems this one is on weed. Which Benin kingdom after pharaoh?

Even Egypt kingdom is not the oldest kingdom in Africa but kingdom of kerma.

Benin empire came into existence 40years after oyo empire.

Stop distorting history here.

Iamgrey5:
This a pathetic lie

ile ife have long existed even before the advent of oduduwa.

The ewe of Ghana have historical links with ife, Yorubas in Togo are even known as Ife-togo or Anago.

Yes both of you are saying the same thing. Ile ife existed before oduduwa came from benin to establish a dynasty there

MyVILLAGEpeople:
loool
I think the problem here is, they(Yorubas) have evidences to back up their claims too. So how can we know the authentic history??

what evidence?

MXrep:
Yes both of you are saying the same thing. Ile ife existed before oduduwa came from benin to establish a dynasty there

I just tire.

Oduduwa met ile Ife people there with there tradition and culture

EdiAbali:
It's not true, I have never heard of Hausa people claiming Oduduwa.
Oduduwa was from Benin kingdom, it's a fact.
Instead of Yoruba people to accept the fact, they are now claiming that they didn't know where Oduduwa came from, most Yoruba claim Oduduwa fall from the sky while the Yoruba Muslims claim that Oduduwa was from Saudi Arabia

You people should be proud of your origin

No one will accept fact from distortionist like you. Too empire has been In existence before Benin.

There's no link between Benin country and bini empire

Benin was called Dahomey at independence which other tribes in the country apart from the Fon found insulting, the Fon were the owners of the Dahomey kingdom.

There are Fon, Yorubas in the east, Bariba of Borgu (an Hausa tribe) to the North , Adja to the south.

Hence, in the spirit of fairness and equality, the country was renamed after the bight of Benin which covers west Africa basin countries like Togo, Ghana, Nigeria and Benin.

Westtimeline:
[s][/s]Stop talking rubbish and call it fact. All these ravitionists. Yorubas are many in numbers compare to Benin. Your distortion won't change the truth. Benin originated from yorubas just like ekitis, akokos, ondos, Akures, ijesha, egba etc.

We are not saying that yoruba originated from benin neither does number matter. We are saying that oduduwa travelled from benin to ile ife, met people there, settled among them and founded a dynasty

Westtimeline:
No one will accept fact from distortionist like you. Too empire has been In existence before Benin.

Your so called empires that fell before colonist came?

MXrep:
Yes both of you are saying the same thing. Ile ife existed before oduduwa came from benin to establish a dynasty there

The orgin of Oduduwa is very controversial and hidden in the mulky waters of History

Some said he came from the Nupe enclaves

Some said he might come from Afamei land in Edo

Others claim he is a son of the ogiso.

There are enough evidence to back the three

Hence, it is best we leave it to proper historians

loveth360:
Am confuse here,

if oduduwa is father of yorubas,who is father of oduduwa?

Your Dad is the father of oduduwa na

Iamgrey5:
The orgin of Oduduwa is very controversial and hidden in the mulky waters of History

Some said he came from the Nupe enclaves

Some said he might come from Afamei land in Edo

Others claim he is a son of the ogiso.

There are enough evidence to back the three

Hence, it is best we leave it to proper historians

Those controversies are the handiwork of the inflated ego of yoruba revisionists

Oduduwa was from Oke Ora [Ora Hills] in the eastern part of Ife. Ife East LGA covers the area even. Oduduwa was a local not a migrant from Bini or Mecca. He was a proper Ife man whose family is in Idio section of Ife where he lived & died.

To the Bini: did the lost Bini wanderer who ended up in Ughoton come with relatives to Ife?

MXrep:
Those controversies are the handiwork of the inflated ego of yoruba revisionists

No they are not

The Nupes also known as Tapa have often wandered into Yoruba land from time to time

For example, Oshodi is named after one such Nupe

It is also a known fact that Edos often wander in Yoruba territories and vice versa before the advent of Nigeria.

The dressing of Oduduwa looks more like Nupe than an Edo. Hence, the historians were led to believe he might have traveled all the way from Saudi Arabia.

Other historical facts might have supported an Edo origin i.e. trapped in cage etc.

MXrep:
We are not saying that yoruba originated from benin neither does number matter. We are saying that oduduwa travelled from benin to ile ife, met people there, settled among them and founded a dynasty

So you people can even lie that bini kingdom is second oldest kingdom after Egypt kingdom. That got me rolling. To start with, Egypt kingdom is not even the first kingdom. Benin kingdom that came into existence 40 years after oyo empire.

Benin kingdom came inv1440, oyo kingdom 1400.

MXrep:
Your so called empires that fell before colonist came?

Whether it falls or not. The fact is that, it came before Benin empire. That is the truth i want you to know.

Iamgrey5:
No they are not

The Nupes also known as Tapa have often wandered into Yoruba land from time to time

For example, Oshodi is named after one such Nupe

It is also a known fact that Edos often wander in Yoruba territories and vice versa before the advent of Nigeria.

The dressing of Oduduwa looks more like Nupe than an Edo. Hence, the historians were lead to believe he might have traveled all the way from Saudi Arabia.

Other historical facts might have supported an Edo origin i.e. trapped in cage etc.

How did Nupe take benin title of oba? Instead of their own etsu title?