₦airaland Forum

Iamgrey5:
No! the oba of Lagos is believed to be a direct descendant of Oba of Benin, unlike other Yoruba kings

However, the plain truth is that the current oba of Lagos is not entirely a direct descendant of oba of bini. it is believed he is a mixture of an Ijesha man called Alagba and a descendant of Oba of bini.

More importantly, the oba of lagos has no land in lagos, the land on the island belongs to a Yoruba sub group known as the Awori (the red cap chiefs) E.g.

The Oba oniru

The Oba Elegushi

The Oni Koyi of ikoyi

etc.

MXrep:
People from benin have given theirs which sound convincing enough

Iamgrey5:
Ogebni the bight of Benin belongs to no one.

It was simply named after the Empire of bini. it doesn't mean it now belongs to it.

MXrep:
All obas originate from benin. All emirs are fulani. Deal with it

MXrep:
All obas originate from benin. All emirs are fulani. Deal with it

Westtimeline:
Lol, and where is the proof? I do not take distorted history as fact. Cos if two children fight and they will surely talk I need favor of themselves. So nothing a Benin or Yoruba man will say that I will accept. I prefer outsider which is neutral.

MXrep:
Benin controlled the coast.

Iamgrey5:
Which coast did they control

The bight cut across different countries

The bini did not even have any influence in Dahomey history

Iamgrey5:
Lol.

How come there's only one Oba in Benin because of the link with the Yorubas

And it's common in Yorubaland

Westtimeline:
You are just a Paine igbo. Well, una no get history.

MXrep:
They controlled from lagos to benin. Ijaw controlled the eastern axis until the rise of Aro

Binikingdowm:
what evidence?

MXrep:
Because yoruba had many city states. Just like fulani spread emirs in the north

Iamgrey5:
They didn't control lagos.

They were given the opportunity to provide security in sections of Lagos island, while the Yorubas kept the ownership of their lands.

The ilaje controlled their own territory in Ondo, while Ijaw and some Edo influence controlled the rest to the East.

Yorubas, Fons and Guns controlled the sea side of the present day Benin Republic.

Iamgrey5:
Emirs is not a Fulani but a Muslim title.

Oba is quite different

MXrep:
You are very funny. We are talking about ancient people when it was all about Conquest. Lol. They can't be guarding the land if they had not conquered it

MXrep:
Fulani brought islam. They were first emirs and emir is hereditary. Do the maths

MXrep:
Fulani brought islam. They were first emirs and emir is hereditary. Do the maths

Iamgrey5:
Lol.

How come there's only one Oba in Benin because of the link with the Yorubas

And it's common in Yorubaland

prolog31:
Actually, the word Oba is the title of the emperor if Benin empire. The Yoruba copied it in the colonial era by using it to replace the word "sir" un front of the names if their nobles. Benin empire was the super power of the region which is why it gave its name the the bight if Benin and Dahomey later copied the name Benin as well.

MyVILLAGEpeople:
Same evidence you Benin have. According to the Yorubas. Oramiyan the son of oduduwa came to rule Benin( he called it ile ubinu before it was corrupted to Benin) and he gave birth to eweka. The story is kinda long though. This is also in their history.

Iamgrey5:
Not true.

Benin Empire were the first to come in contact with Europeans not the most powerful by any stretch.

Secondly, the word oba have long existed among the Yorubas even before the advent of Oduduwa. it is Binis that started using oba after they came in contact with Oranmiyan.

Obatala's household were the ones providing the kings in ife before the Advent of Oduduwa's dynasty.

Binikingdowm:
that's true.

What we Benin's are saying is that, oduduwa is a Benin man, so technically oramiyan is Benin.

MXrep:
Its the yorubas claiming that yorubas originated from oduduwa who fell from the sky. Ife being archaeologically older than benin mean nothing. Usman dan fodio came from futa jdalon and established the caliphate in northern city states, an event that is relatively recent in history

PVision2020:
Unman Dan fodio came into northern Nigeria through through Jihad conquest with highly trained Islamists guerrilla warlords. Unlike your claim that a pseudo Benin Prince came all by himself to govern/conquer a city and people that are light years ahead of his father's Kingdom.

How come binis bear Yoruba names and also practice the ancient yoruba elders cult (OGBONI).
tell me one bini influence on the Yoruba.

MXrep:
All obas originate from benin. All emirs are fulani. Deal with it

yemaldo:
Emir is not a fulani title

MXrep:
Fulani brought islam. They were first emirs and emir is hereditary. Do the maths

prolog31:
In nigeria, it is

yemaldo:
That's why we need to bring back history