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| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by CANTICLES: 9:36pm On Apr 04, 2019 |
ChristianNorth:Apostle can mean sent one , but it can also mean a foremost disciple of Christ . so context matters So also when the question is asked : Is Jesus God ? Many ask in the context of he being the supreme being. So the answer is NO in that sense. Whether "mighty God" or "almighty God" the most important thing is that the Bible said he is God.Context matters . Mary gave birth to a God in a flesh. This means he has all the attributes of a man.But it was God ? So brother answer 1) Did Mary give birth to God ? 2) Did humans kill God ? |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by ChristianNorth: 9:42pm On Apr 04, 2019 |
CANTICLES:It so shameful you don't even understand the basic concept of trinity. |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Emusan(m): 10:06pm On Apr 04, 2019 |
CANTICLES:I can see you misunderstood what I meant there.... I didn't talk about one word with a different meaning but FOCUS on the word APOSTLE... If Jesus and Peter are both apostles, it means the word apostle applied to them and with the same role...that makes them to be both apostles Now both Jesus and Jehovah are mighty God, then how many God do you have? |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Janosky: 10:55pm On Apr 04, 2019 |
ChristianNorth:John 20:28 Thomas called Jesus my Lord and my God" *Jesus is the Master of Thomas and his words carry more authority than Thomas. John20:17Jesus said to his followers:'I am going to my Father and your Father,my God and your God" Jesus & Thomas worship the Father and God of Jesus who is Superior ,greater than Jesus ( John 14:28). Jesus is not the Supreme God he worships. *** 1,tim3:16 https://biblehub.com/1_timothy/3-16 *LEXICON " ...He appeared in the flesh..." ** Here, in the most ancient authorities,the word 'God' does not occur . We must then literally translate the Greek of the most famous and trustworthy manuscript as follows: "He who manifested in the flesh" The Textus Receptus (TR) English bibles removed "he" in the Greek manuscript and dubiously inserted 'God',to support Trinity scam. *Your claim that JWs "expunged" or changed things in the Bible is a lie.. Ignorance and lies fed to you by pastorpreneurs be una problem. Isa9:6,psalms 82:1,6,psalms 24:8 mighty God is a title for Jesus, for man and for Jehovah accordingly. * In Isaiah 7:14 you are telling us that virgin Mary gave birth to God in the flesh, therefore she is the mother of God. (Alu mere!) |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Janosky: 11:08pm On Apr 04, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:Matt Slick and olaadegbu are liars who spread falsehood about JWs. https://nairaland.com/4062678/deeper-life-bible-cult https://nairaland.com/1049799/some-deeper-life-practices-alien olaadegbu belongs to deeper life Bible cult spoon fed by kumuyi. Kumuyi's word is law, traits of a cult. |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Nobody: 6:07am On Apr 05, 2019*. Modified: 7:52am On Apr 05, 2019 |
Emusan:NO Sir,Jesus is the Lord over his own followers just as David and others were also Lords over their own servants[2Samuel 19:27] he had 12 Apostles and Numerous disciples. So Jehovah is the ALMIGHTY God[Exodus 6:2,3] he has so many angels whose positions are higher than others [1Corinthians 8:5]they are mighty gods under the Almighty, Jesus happens to be one of those mighty spirits [angels or gods]! Psalm 82:1 After God created Jesus, he[Jesus] was given the assignment as in privilege to create all other things[Colossians 1:15,16 compared to Proverbs 8:22-31] but that never gave him the sole right to destroy any of it unless his father gives the order! Psalms 110:1 compared to Matthew 8:22 |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by CANTICLES: 5:47pm On Apr 05, 2019 |
Emusan:U are a dubious fellow, are you seeing what trinity is doing to your reasoning ? Jesus was Sent to die for mankind sins [John 3:16 ] , Peter wasn't sent for such role , [b] the word apostle is applied to them in a different context [b] Same applies to Jesus and His Father. To Jesus its applied as a title as a Mighty one , But to Jehovah its applied as the supreme being over ALL |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by ChristianNorth: 6:59pm On Apr 05, 2019 |
Janosky:I am sorry you guys argue blindly. My father is my master and his words carry authority than mine, does that make him my god? No. Thomas recognised Jesus as his God because Jesus is a deity. Janosky:There is no single christian organisation that recognises Jesus as the supreme god. He is the second person in the Godhead. You guys understanding of trinity is wacked and the way you people depicts it graphically is so stupid. Trinity is the union of the father, son and Holy spirit as one. This means there is one God who exists in 3 dimensions. They are the same and yet separate. Janosky:Read from verse 15 of your New World Translation and stop being mischievous. Janosky:I was born into a JW family, so don't be stupid. Janosky:If he is given the title mighty God, then he is a God. It is as simple as that. Janosky:A virgin will give birth to a son and his name shall be called Emmanuel; God with us. Keep interpreting the Bible to suit your warped ideologies, the truth remains that Jesus is a God. You guys believe that everything that was made was made by Jesus, that Jehovah created only Jesus, the first born of all creations. Yeah, you are right because the Bible said so. The same Bible said, in the beginning God created Heaven and Earth. If you believe that God created everything and that everything that was made was made through Jesus, then simple logic says he is a God. Jesus is A God not God, he is the second person in the Godhead. |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Emusan(m): 7:07pm On Apr 05, 2019 |
CANTICLES:When I said you're a confirm Olodo...y some people won't believe but just look at your delusion... So to be an Apostle now mean to die... Jesus is a mighty God and Jehovah is a mighty God, how many God do you have? That's the question! |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Janosky: 10:03pm On Apr 05, 2019 |
Emusan:"God stands in the congregation of the mighty ;he judges among the gods" "I have said ,'you are gods'; you are all sons of the Most High" Psalms 82:1,6. Deu10:17.Jehovah is a mighty God Isaiah 9:6 Jesus is a mighty God. Psalms 82:1,6. man is a mighty God and angels are mighty Gods. Mighty God is a title for JEHOVAH ,.,title for Jesus and a title for man/angels. ** How many Gods do you have? Oya respond ! If anybody deserved "olodo" title , it is you Emusan because out of the abundance of your ignorance and unbelief ,your post speaks. |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Janosky: 10:38pm On Apr 05, 2019 |
ChristianNorth:This is the Christian North Trinity radically different from the Catholic Church Trinity of Ubenedictus and Deeper Life Trinity of Olaadegbu or non denominational brocab ,solite3& johnw47 Trinity . None of them will agree with your wacky Trinity. Your confusion is awesome! Man is a deity ,angel is a deity. Psalms 82:1,6. Jn10:34-36(KJV) If Jesus is a deity,& so what? ***1tim3:15 But in case I am delayed that you may know how to conduct yourself in God's household,which is the congregation of the living God, a pillar and support of the truth" You too sabi lie. |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by CANTICLES: 11:47pm On Apr 05, 2019 |
Emusan:Pathetic, so pathetic ... Apostle means " one who is SENT. " Jesus was sent in what context ? ( God SEND his son ( 1John 4:14) .. Same with Peter ? Jesus is a mighty God and Jehovah is a mighty God, how many God do you have? That's the question!When you answer if Jesus and Peter were SENT with the same role as you Earlier lied . this one will be clear . |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Emusan(m): 10:09am On Apr 06, 2019 |
Janosky:SMH...see concorted lies Before it was, Jehovah is Almighty God and Jesus is a mighty God. But now both Jehovah and Jesus are mighty God not only that, man and Angels are now also mighty God! This can only be found in JWs logic.... I wonder if man and angels are already A MIGHTY GOD, while then Jesus will be called same thing Anyway, there is ONLY ONE God who is Mighty... Now, show us where in the Bible where Man and Angels are called MIGHTY God |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Emusan(m): 10:34am On Apr 06, 2019*. Modified: 6:54pm On Apr 06, 2019 |
CANTICLES:Just see the way you're exposing your ignorance the more. "Apostle mean one who is sent..." can't you see that because the person was SENT that's what makes him/her apostle? *Jesus was a prophet because He prophesied... *Jesus is the saviour because He saved man from sin that's why no one was called a saviour in the scripture... *Jesus was a teacher because He teaches...not because He died for mankind. *Jesus was an apostle because He was sent... Is Jesus the only prophet in the world? No! Is Jesus the only Apostle in the world? No! Is Jesus the only teacher in the world? No! What's is my point? Simple, if one thing bridges two people together you look at the nature of connectivity not how they perform it differently. You can't be called a teacher if you don't teach. So for Jesus and Jehovah to be called Mighty God...means something! When you answer if Jesus and Peter were SENT with the same role as you Earlier lied . this one will be clear .When did I say they were sent with the same role? My question still remains, you agree that Jesus and Jehovah are mighty God, how many God do you have? |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by ChristianNorth: 11:17am On Apr 06, 2019 |
Janosky:Christian definition of the Trinity remains the same "the union of the father, son and Holy Spirit as one God" JW are shameless revisionists, so we don't care about what your lies. Read 1 Tim 3:15-16 and stop being stupid with only verse 15. You guys are not christians but a christian wanabe religious movement. |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by OLAADEGBU(op): 4:17pm On Apr 06, 2019 |
Janosky:"For all the gods of the people are idols but the LORD made the heavens" (1 Chronicles 16:26). Now tell me if you know, who is the LORD that made the heavens? ![]() |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by budaatum: 5:06pm On Apr 06, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:I take it you've said this to Olaadegbu too or does Olaadegbu have only one finger? Or is it that they point four at Catholics so are fair game for Olaadegbu's typical four? Show me where you told him. |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by OLAADEGBU(op): 7:00pm On Apr 06, 2019 |
budaatum:If you live in glass house don't throw stones. |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Emusan(m): 8:30pm On Apr 06, 2019 |
Maximus69:Confuse person.... The other time you said, Jesus WAS a God meaning Past tense Again, Jesus serve as God in the past just as Moses...and both are no more God today Do you agree with your brother who says Angels are MIGHTY GOD? since to you Jesus is an Angel |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Janosky: 9:34pm On Apr 06, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:***"Jehovah made the heavens" 1 chro16:26 #Darby Bible Translation #Young's Literal Translation #American Standard Version " Lord Jehovah created (qanah) me at the beginning of his creation..".(Aramaic Bible). "I was there when he set the heavens in place" Prov8:22,27. You are truly confused because in the OT , the name of God (YHWH- Jehovah/ Yahweh) was removed by many Bible translators and replaced with the title 'LORD'. |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Janosky: 10:07pm On Apr 06, 2019*. Modified: 10:27pm On Apr 06, 2019 |
ChristianNorth: Janosky:Christian Not indeed . This Lying Pharisee dey vex because him scam for 1tim3:15,16 were exposed . That your definition of your scam no dey anywhere for your Bible,last last you go denge pose with the well known Textus Receptus fraud of 1john5:7 wey Trinity believers done know& talk say na Iwuruwuru https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ An_Historical_Account_of _Two _Notable_Corruptions_of_Scripture |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by OLAADEGBU(op): 10:26pm On Apr 06, 2019 |
Janosky:If that is the case then that means that all other gods are idols.
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| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Janosky: 10:33pm On Apr 06, 2019*. Modified: 10:53pm On Apr 06, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:Psalms 82:1,6(KJV), did Jehovah say his sons were idols? OLAADEGBU is twisting the holy scriptures because it does not suit his Trinity scam. Olaadegbu dey misquote Acts4:12 The name Jesus was "given to men to get saved " Who gave Jesus his name? #* " I bend my knees to the Father to whom every family in heaven and on the earth owes it's name" Ephesians 3:14 ,15. John 5:26 *** Who gave Jesus to men? " For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son" John 3:16. If you love your Heavenly Father who granted life to Jesus and you,pls jejely carry your Trinity scam throw am put for dustbin. |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Janosky: 11:13pm On Apr 06, 2019*. Modified: 11:37pm On Apr 06, 2019 |
Emusan:If Jehovah sends one of his angels to read and explain Deu10:17, Psalms 82:1,6 & Isaiah 9:6 to you, you would continue to argue with Jehovah's messenger. You always lie ,argue blindly and you will never admit the truth even if na Angel show am to you. Lying Pharisee dey form Christian. |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by johnw47: 11:20pm On Apr 06, 2019 |
TATIME:false jw tatime so that is why you keep talking about christians |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by johnw47: 11:29pm On Apr 06, 2019*. Modified: 11:57pm On Apr 06, 2019 |
false jw max, to believe that olaadegbu and christians are jealous of you and to believe that olaadegbu and christians think you are better than them is delusion but in your case it may not be delusion, and just your continual lying-natural way of talking it's amazing how you false jw's glory in your lies more than any other of satans mob Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Maximus69: |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by johnw47: 11:54pm On Apr 06, 2019*. Modified: 12:30am On Apr 07, 2019 |
phrisee false jw's Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. you false jw's hate the truths depicted in these cartoons ![]()
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| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by budaatum: 12:13am On Apr 07, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: ![]() Because Olaadegbu will not turn the other cheek, he'll stone you back! |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by CANTICLES: 6:39am On Apr 07, 2019 |
Emusan:You lie too much "Apostle mean one who is sent..." can't you see that because the person was SENT that's what makes him/her apostle?We read: “Jehovah raised a savior up for the sons of Israel that he might save them, Othniel the son of Kenaz, the younger brother of Caleb.” (Judg. 3:9) Othniel was called a SAVIOUR . stop telling lies, it won't help you. So how many Saviours does Isreal have ? What's is my point?One gave the other that title , shouldn't that tell you who is superior ? You can't be called a teacher if you don't teach.For Jehovah and othniel to be called saviour means they are equal , Shebi ? so patheticWhen did I say they were sent with the same role?Who says this ? Emusan My question still remains, you agree that Jesus and Jehovah are mighty God, how many God do you have?Do you agree othniel and Jehovah are SAVIOURS, how many Saviour does isreal have ? Until u learn what it means when one gave a title to another to carry out his own purpose, you will continue to get confused |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by ChristianNorth: 7:02am On Apr 07, 2019 |
Janosky:Read 1 Tim 3:15,16 with your New World Translation. The koko be say, it still agreed that God was manifested in the flesh. |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by ChristianNorth: 7:28am On Apr 07, 2019 |
CANTICLES:You guys are just hopeless liars. You interpret words in the context it was made. Saviour can mean anything but the saviour associated with Jesus was translated from the Hebrew word "messiah" or the Greek word "Khristos" (christ) "His name shall be called Mighty God" and you still want to explain this away as mere title but your brainwashed brain didn't allow you to see how this still validates the deity of Jesus. Obi of Onitsha is a title. He is given that title because he is the obi (King) of Onitsha. Only a god can claim the title "Mighty God" Don't forget he is also called "eternal father". I wonder how you intend to explain this away. |
| Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by ChristianNorth: 7:42am On Apr 07, 2019 |
Maximus69:If Jesus created everything then it means he is a God. Genesis 1:1 clearly states that in the beginning GOD created heaven and earth. So how do you explain this? |
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