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"How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:25am On May 12, 2017
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"How can one witness to a Jehovah's Witness? They know so much about the bible and even revered Jesus but they don't believe that Jesus is God." Rocio Soto

I make it a habit not to try and convince a Jehovah's Witness that Jesus is God in human form. There are two reasons for this.

The first is that they have their own version of the Bible that removes references to the true nature of Jesus.

Second, when Jesus asked Peter "Who do you say that I am?" Jesus said to him that flesh and blood hadn't revealed that truth to him, but "my Father who is in Heaven." God is the one who reveals who Jesus is, so I leave that up to Him.

So you have two insurmountable hurdles if you argue doctrine with a JW. They move the goalposts, and they are spiritually blind.

The key to unlocking the door to them is to identify the real issue.

That issue is that JW's are a works righteousness religion. You can uncover this by saying, "There's a knife in my back and I have three minutes to live. What should I do to enter the Kingdom?" It's then that you will discover that they are trusting in works for their salvation rather than in the grace of God through Jesus Christ.

So you have to put them up the River Niagara without a paddle.

Strip them of their false hope. No one will be saved through good works or by being religious. The way to do that is to take them through the spiritual nature of God's Law (the Ten Commandments). Then share the biblical gospel with them--that we are saved by grace through faith alone (without works), and pray that God opens their eyes to the truth.

Once they are truly born again they will leave the Jehovah's Witnesses and become witness of Jesus Christ:

"But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and YOU SHALL BE WITNESS TO ME in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth" Acts 1:8, caps added)

If you don't know how to go through God's Law watch www.NoahTheMovie.com (1.2 million views).

Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 11 May 2014

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by pressplay411(m): 5:21am On May 12, 2017
Jesus preached that we are all gods.
Where ever did he claim to be God?

He prayed to God before performing any miracles. He told the thief he'd be with him in his father's house. He never ever said he was God, please stop crucifying his legacy.

Jehovahs-witnesses are labeled all sorts but at least the practice only what the Bible teaches, although they tend to go overboard. Their offense is not as grievous as other Christians who mutilate the legacy of Jesus by equating him to God. It's just ludicrous.

Modified:
Jesus is indeed God. 1 Timothy 3:16, John 1:1, John 14:8-12, Isaiah 9:6
I was blind, but now I see.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:23am On May 13, 2017
pressplay411:


Jesus preached that we are all gods.
Where ever did he claim to be God?

He prayed to God before performing any miracles. He told the thief he'd be with him in his father's house. He never ever said he was God, please stop crucifying his legacy.

Jehovahs-witnesses are labeled all sorts but at least the practice only what the Bible teaches, although they tend to go overboard. Their offense is not as grievous as other Christians who mutilate the legacy of Jesus by equating him to God. It's just ludicrous.

Are you a JW?
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by pressplay411(m): 8:38am On May 13, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Are you a JW?

Freethinker, for lack of a definitive label.
Have some JW friends though. So I'm some what exposed to their preaching.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:58am On May 13, 2017
pressplay411:


Freethinker, for lack of a definitive label.
Have some JW friends though. So I'm some what exposed to their preaching.

So you are a rolling stone. Jack of all trades and master of none? wink
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by pressplay411(m): 9:04am On May 13, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


So you are a rolling stone. Jack of all trades and master of none? wink

Was that supposed to make me cry
I guess you could say that tho. I'm eclectic.

Have you been sent from above to convert me? grin
Pls kole werk.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Ken4Christ: 9:39am On May 13, 2017
JW members who have been indoctrinated are difficult to convert. They have been trained to ignore the truth and follow their deceptive teachings. The worst of their teachings is the denial of the existence of hell which is clearly revealed in the Bible. I wish they could see the doom that awaits them. Please, give your life to Jesus. He is the only way to God. Otherwise, you will face his wrath.

"For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?". (Revelation 6:17).

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:43pm On May 22, 2017
Ken4Christ:


JW members who have been indoctrinated are difficult to convert. They have been trained to ignore the truth and follow their deceptive teachings. The worst of their teachings is the denial of the existence of hell which is clearly revealed in the Bible. I wish they could see the doom that awaits them. Please, give your life to Jesus. He is the only way to God. Otherwise, you will face his wrath.

"For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?". (Revelation 6:17).

Well said. smiley
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:33pm On May 30, 2017
pressplay411:


Was that supposed to make me cry
I guess you could say that tho. I'm eclectic.

Have you been sent from above to convert me? grin
Pls kole werk.

Are you saying that you have reached the point of no return? undecided
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by frosbel2(m): 5:53pm On May 30, 2017
How can one witness to a Deeper lifer? They know so much about the bible and even revere Jesus, but they erroneously believe that Jesus is God, a sort of blasphemy because God is one and only one.

smiley

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by malvisguy212: 6:08pm On May 30, 2017
frosbel2:
How can one witness to a Deeper lifer? They know so much about the bible and even revere Jesus, but they erroneously believe that Jesus is God, a sort of blasphemy because God is one and only one.

smiley

who say God is not one ?
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:43pm On May 30, 2017
frosbel2:


How can one witness to a Deeper lifer? They know so much about the bible and even revere Jesus, but they erroneously believe that Jesus is God, a sort of blasphemy because God is one and only one.

smiley

'de la hoya has come again with his heretic assertions. cheesy
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by frosbel2(m): 7:18pm On May 30, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


'de la hoya has come again with his heretic assertions. cheesy

Which is heretical, worshipping a three god trinity or worshipping one God as Jesus said;

"Jesus replied, "The most important commandment is this: 'Listen, O Israel! The LORD our God is the one and only LORD" - Mark 12:29

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by pressplay411(m): 7:53pm On May 30, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Are you saying that you have reached the point of no return? undecided

I'm saying no thanks, I'm good.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by pressplay411(m): 8:05pm On May 30, 2017
frosbel2:


Which is heretical, worshipping a three god trinity or worshipping one God as Jesus said;

"Jesus replied, "The most important commandment is this: 'Listen, O Israel! The LORD our God is the one and only LORD" - Mark 12:29

The problem is the interpretation of the bible.
Same verse, different readers would tell you different meanings.
The Bible can be both straightforward and ambiguous, depends on who's interpreting it.
But I just believe it's too grievous an offense professing Jesus as God, especially cos that's not only erroneous and a blasphemy but a blatant and callous mutiny to his legacy.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:03am On May 31, 2017
frosbel2:


Which is heretical, worshipping a three god trinity or worshipping one God as Jesus said;

"Jesus replied, "The most important commandment is this: 'Listen, O Israel! The LORD our God is the one and only LORD" - Mark 12:29

God is One. Jesus and the Father are One. The Son has all the attributes of the Father. If not, why did the Jews seek to kill him?

"But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God" (John 5:17-18).

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:18am On May 31, 2017
pressplay411:


The problem is the interpretation of the bible.
Same verse, different readers would tell you different meanings.
The Bible can be both straightforward and ambiguous, depends on who's interpreting it.
But I just believe it's too grievous an offense professing Jesus as God, especially cos that's not only erroneous and a blasphemy but a blatant and callous mutiny to his legacy.

The Jews in the verse I quoted above also thought it was blasphemous for Jesus to claim that He was equal to God.

"For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, said the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall" (Malachi 4:1-2).

Did you see the word Sun (with the 'S' in uppercase)? Who do you think will be your Judge on the Last day if you don't kiss the Son now? undecided
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by pressplay411(m): 1:01am On May 31, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


The Jews in the verse I quoted above also thought it was blasphemous for Jesus to claim that He was equal to God.

"For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, said the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall" (Malachi 4:1-2).

Did you see the word Sun (with the 'S' in uppercase)? Who do you think will be your Judge on the Last day if you don't kiss the Son now? undecided

You only proved my point. Using another ambiguity to explain an ambiguity.
Did you read the whole chapter? How does it in any way or form refer to Jesus or the son of God?
It depicts time, a judgment day of sort when the sun would wipe out the wicked while the same sun would have a healing effect on the righteous.

How does this in any way or form relate to Jesus being God.
But like I pointed out, you can choose to interpret the Bible however way to suit your purpose.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:05am On May 31, 2017
pressplay411:


You only proved my point. Using another ambiguity to explain an ambiguity.
Did you read the whole chapter? How does it in any way or form refer to Jesus or the son of God?
It depicts time, a judgment day of sort when the sun would wipe out the wicked while the same sun would have a healing effect on the righteous.

How does this in any way or form relate to Jesus being God.
But like I pointed out, you can choose to interpret the Bible however way to suit your purpose.

The holy scriptures are only ambiguous to those whose eyes had been darkened. Let the Sun of righteousness shine in your heart so that you can see with the eyes of your understanding. Here are other verses that show who the Lord Jesus Christ is:

"If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated me and my Father" (John 15:24).

"There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him" (John 3:1-2).

We can see from the verses above that Jesus shares the same attributes with God. No man can do the same work that God does except Christ. Even Nicodemus acknowledged that truth. Do you? undecided
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by pressplay411(m): 6:05am On May 31, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Thecriptures are only ambiguous to those whose eyes had been darkened. Let the Sun of righteousness shine in your heart so that you can see with the eyes of your understanding. Here are other verses that show who the Lord Jesus Christ is:

"If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated me and my Father" (John 15:24).

"There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him" (John 3:1-2).

We can see from the verses above that Jesus shares the same attributes with God. No man can do the same work that God does except Christ. Even Nicodemus acknowledged that truth. Do you? undecided

Apparently you're not well versed in the Bible.
There are more ambiguous verses that portray Jesus as God, the ones you mentioned are not even close.
And what you call spiritual eyes is nothing but literature and allegory.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by CAPTIVATOR: 8:41am On May 31, 2017
Ken4Christ:
JW members who have been indoctrinated are difficult to convert. They have been trained to ignore the truth and follow their deceptive teachings. The worst of their teachings is the denial of the existence of hell which is clearly revealed in the Bible. I wish they could see the doom that awaits them. Please, give your life to Jesus. He is the only way to God. Otherwise, you will face his wrath.

"For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?". (Revelation 6:17)
.

Must your hate make you spread false messages, JW belive in Hell [ Heb: Sheol, Greek: Hades] ... and according to the scriptures everyone is going there [Eccl 9:5,10] , even Job prayed to go there .

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by CAPTIVATOR: 8:45am On May 31, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


The holy scriptures are only ambiguous to those whose eyes had been darkened. Let the Sun of righteousness shine in your heart so that you can see with the eyes of your understanding. Here are other verses that show who the Lord Jesus Christ is:

"If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated me and my Father" (John 15:24).

"There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him" (John 3:1-2).

We can see from the verses above that Jesus shares the same attributes with God. No man can do the same work that God does except Christ. Even Nicodemus acknowledged that truth. Do you? undecided

You mean you didn't see where Nicodemus said Jesus comes FROM God, he didnt say Jesus is God Almighty... the point is God was with him . God is with someone doesnt make them the supreme being.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:47am On May 31, 2017
pressplay411:


Apparently you're not well versed in the Bible.
There are more ambiguous verses that portray Jesus as God, the ones you mentioned are not even close.
And what you call spiritual eyes is nothing but literature and allegory.

If you are well versed in the Bible you should be able to see the oneness, sameness and likeness of Jesus Christ in authority and power with God the Father. Why would you allow rigidity in your religion and tradition to hinder you from seeing that Jesus continues the work that the Father has started and they are inseparable? The Jews of His days made the same mistake when they allowed their religion to blindfold them from seeing Jesus as the Christ.

"The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, It is the sabbath day: it is not lawful for thee to carry thy bed" (John 5:10).

"The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven" (John 6:41).

You will not come to Christ and you prevent others who truly believe from coming to Christ because of the rigidity of your traditions.

"Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews. Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught. And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?" (John 7:13-15)

"These words spake his parents, because they feared the Jews: for the Jews had agreed already, that if any man did confess that he was Christ, he should be put out of the synagogue" (John 9:22).
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:51am On May 31, 2017
CAPTIVATOR:


You mean you didn't see where Nicodemus said Jesus comes FROM God, he didnt say Jesus is God Almighty... the point is God was with him . God is with someone doesnt make them the supreme being.

Nicodemus acknowledged not only that Jesus comes from God but that no man or prophet could do those works which Jesus did. Jesus did the works only God could do which proves that Jesus is one with God, they are inseparable in character, in attributes and in Power.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by CAPTIVATOR: 1:00pm On May 31, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Nicodemus acknowledged not only that Jesus comes from God but that no man or prophet could do those works which Jesus did. Jesus did the works only God could do which proves that Jesus is one with God, they are inseparable in character, in attributes and in Power.

Now If Jesus comes from God, from where do you think the power he used to perform those works is gotten ?

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by CAPTIVATOR: 1:01pm On May 31, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


If you are well versed in the Bible you should be able to see the oneness, sameness and likeness of Jesus Christ in authority and power with God the Father. Why would you allow rigidity in your religion and tradition to hinder you from seeing that Jesus continues the work that the Father has started and they are inseparable? The Jews of His days made the same mistake when they allowed their religion to blindfold them from seeing Jesus as the Christ.

"The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, It is the sabbath day: it is not lawful for thee to carry thy bed" (John 5:10).

"The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven" (John 6:41).

You will not come to Christ and you prevent others who truly believe from coming to Christ because of the rigidity of your traditions.

"Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews. Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught. And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?" (John 7:13-15)

"These words spake his parents, because they feared the Jews: for the Jews had agreed already, that if any man did confess that he was Christ, he should be put out of the synagogue" (John 9:22).

Christ is still under the authority Of God (1 Corinthians 11:3 )

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by xtivin(m): 1:49pm On May 31, 2017
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=56438911][/quote]
You fail to remember that faith without works is dead
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by prepared4Heaven: 2:35pm On May 31, 2017
Ken4Christ:
JW members who have been indoctrinated are difficult to convert. They have been trained to ignore the truth and follow their deceptive teachings. The worst of their teachings is the denial of the existence of hell which is clearly revealed in the Bible. I wish they could see the doom that awaits them. Please, give your life to Jesus. He is the only way to God. Otherwise, you will face his wrath.

"For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?". (Revelation 6:17).
On point!
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by pressplay411(m): 2:35pm On May 31, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


should be put out of the synagogue[/color]"[/i] (John 9:22).

You keep beating around the bush.
Where did Jesus profess himself as God?
Not like God but that he is God.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:02am On Jun 01, 2017
CAPTIVATOR:


Now If Jesus comes from God, from where do you think the power he used to perform those works is gotten ?

From God of course. Jesus' shares the same Power with God. Whatever the Father initiated the Son completes. Whatever the plan the Father makes the Son fulfils. The Father and the Son are inseparable in eternity, in infinity, in Omnipotence, in oneness and authority.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:05am On Jun 01, 2017
CAPTIVATOR:


Christ is still under the authority Of God (1 Corinthians 11:3 )

Jesus shares equal authority with the Father because He is God. Can you see yourselves being replicated with the Scribes and Pharisees who refused to see because of their rigidity to comply to their tradition and religion? smiley
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by CAPTIVATOR: 7:08pm On Jun 01, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


From God of course. .

From God, Just like Moses and others got their power and authority from God.., SO How can you be equal in authority with someone WHO GAVE YOU the Power you had ? OLAADEGBU, stop deceiving yourself.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English

". .. then the Son shall be subject to him who subjected all things to him "


GOD'S WORD® Translation

" ... the Son will put himself under God's authority " 1 Corinthians 15:28

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