₦airaland Forum

Welcome, Guest: RegisterLoginWith GoogleTrendingRecentNew

Stats: 3,325,122 members, 8,420,474 topics. Date: Thursday, 04 June 2026 at 09:04 PM

Toggle theme

Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS - Politics (3) - Nairaland

Nairaland ForumNairaland GeneralPoliticsSenate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS (23319 Views)

1 2 3 Reply (Go Down)

Re: Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS by Ubenedictus(m): 8:42am On Apr 11, 2019
papascode:
How can a party choose who will be a Senate president . It is an insult when you have former Governors like Oshomole seated in the Senate. It is an insult!!! Irrespective of party divide, senators are United when seated in the red chambers. It's a fraternity on its on class. Oshomole messed up.
Yov are not informed about politics.
Even in the US th e majority party has a heavy voice in chosing leaders in congress.

The senate is always partisan, everywhere it is partisan, infact in advanced democracies almost every senator votes according to party. no fraternity anywhere
Re: Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS by Ubenedictus(m): 8:46am On Apr 11, 2019
wilddee:
This is my only problem with Osho Baba, he talks too much. That was how he ruined APC governorship primaries in Rivers & Zamfara

#bewarned
How did osho ruin rivers and zamfara primaries?
Re: Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS by OGHENAOGIE(m): 8:57am On Apr 11, 2019
adedfact:
All theses Senators are just looking for relevancy by trying to make counter comments. What Oshiomole did was not wrong in the arena of politics. When they played down on such that was wot gave Saraki the impetus to sabotage the party. Are they telling me that if PDP happens to be a majority that they wouldn't have preferred candidate? All these ones are stories. That is a game of politics. U must have direction to win.
so u were dead when pdp preferred ekwerenmadu and nnamani won or when they prefered mukailat as speaker but tambuwai emerged.... make una use una head....it's national assembly not any party headquarters
Re: Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS by OGHENAOGIE(m): 9:00am On Apr 11, 2019
Bishop4real:
But parties chose who can be Governor &/or President? What's wrong in a party, especially the ruling party , in choosing who will be the Senate President to enable them deliver on their manifesto & electioneering campaign promises?
the senate president ll not govern apc senators alone... but d entire nass members...de can suggest and influence d final decision rest with nass members
Re: Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS by Kenturkey048(m): 9:51am On Apr 11, 2019
Oshin56:
before you can have a deal with the devil you must be preparing for the worst to happen in future, you are saying PDP are greedy self centered what's the difference between APC and PDP
ALPHABET
Re: Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS by blazer2018: 10:09am On Apr 11, 2019
oforjide:
point of correction,oshiomole is working for tinubu
I know, but when things begin to fall apart, he will be the fall guy.
Re: Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS by Alonge25: 10:41am On Apr 11, 2019
Oshiomole, as a party chairman, would have lobbied and persuaded them rather than being dictatorial. Mature men will never take such from anybody. He should respect them. How could he have gathered them and be addressing them as if they are school children. He should learn how to persuade people.
Re: Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS by lagdmark(m): 11:14am On Apr 11, 2019
MadeInTokyo:
Oshoomole always scattering things any where he goes

Look at how several APC primaries were nullified by the courts, because Oshiomole didn't follow the right process.
Oshomole is a very smart guy.
1) He is APC. Chairman
2) He is also PDP undercover Agent.. He get paid by PDP politicians to scatter things and creat wahala for Apc when there is need.
Re: Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS by ihatesycophant(m): 1:33pm On Apr 11, 2019
adedfact:
All theses Senators are just looking for relevancy by trying to make counter comments. What Oshiomole did was not wrong in the arena of politics. When they played down on such that was wot gave Saraki the impetus to sabotage the party. Are they telling me that if PDP happens to be a majority that they wouldn't have preferred candidate? All these ones are stories. That is a game of politics. U must have direction to win.
Mr. Man, it is wrong what he's doing. APC Act and the Nigerian constitution does not empower a party or its head to micro-zone a position to individual but can only be zoned to a region.
You cannot have ten children and then start showing preference for just one of them. Even in a family, if that happened, you will certainly create a rebel and the other children may be the one that will kill you. As the head of APC, he shouldn't have shown preference for a particular person but should have go underground to push for his preferred candidate. They're having problem in many states today because of preference for particular set of people which made them to lose grounds in many states. As bad as PDP is, they've never showed such anti-democracy. You cannot use people to win election and when it is time to choose leadership, you claim they are not fit.
Re: Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS by Excuzeme: 6:28pm On Apr 11, 2019
papascode:
[b]How can a party choose who will be a Senate president . It is an insult when you have former Governors like Oshomole seated in the Senate. It is an insult!!! Irrespective of party divide, senators are United when seated in the red chambers. It's a fraternity on its on class. Oshomole messed up.[/b]
You people should just not argue for the sake of argument sake!
Think deeply and factor-in all issues at stake.

Everywhere in the world (except you can point to one!), it is the RULING PARTY that chooses the Senate Govt or Head of the Legislature. HOW?

- The Ruling party was e;ected by THE MAJORITY of the citizens
- The Ruling Party "naturally" has more Legislators (majority) in the Legislature
- Thus, as expected, the HEAD of that Legislature should/would come from the Ruling party, ina Democracy which is a GAME OF NUMBERS.

Having established the above AS FACTS, in order to ensure that ROGUES like SARAKI, SNITCHES like Alli Nndume and OPPORTUNIST like Dogara and other PDP Looters who want to reap from where they did not sow, The Ruling Party has all the right to conduct AN INTERNAL REFERENDUM WITHIN ITS MEMBERS, to CHOSE ONE OF THEM as their LEADER IN THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY since it is these sam RULING PARTY MEMBERS that will chose ONE OF THEM as SENATE PRESIDENT, ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE.

How is this so difficult for people like you to understand, that this is DEMOCRATIC, LEGITIMATE and even DESIRABLE!
or do you think the MAJORITY who voted for the APC, want to see a situation like what happened the last time when the PDP used a ROGUE named Saraki, to steal the Senate Presidency and after that, ensured that the programs of the APC were always impeded and were never allowed to fly, and in the process, making these majority suffer?

I know that CHAOS is what the Igbos (who voted over 99% for PDP in the South East in 2015 and 2019) want, as SPOILERS but it wont happen again. Everyone is wise to their antics right now
Re: Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS by Excuzeme: 6:34pm On Apr 11, 2019
ihatesycophant:
Mr. Man, it is wrong what he's doing. APC Act and the Nigerian constitution does not empower a party or its head to micro-zone a position to individual but can only be zoned to a region.
You cannot have ten children and then start showing preference for just one of them. Even in a family, if that happened, you will certainly create a rebel and the other children may be the one that will kill you. As the head of APC, he shouldn't have shown preference for a particular person but should have go underground to push for his preferred candidate. They're having problem in many states today because of preference for particular set of people which made them to lose grounds in many states. As bad as PDP is, they've never showed such anti-democracy. You cannot use people to win election and when it is time to choose leadership, you claim they are not fit.
'Regions or Zones dont lead a Legislature!
It is ONE PERSON (like that Rogue called Saraki!) that leads a Legislature and he comes from a Region/Zone..

People like you should stop feigning ignorance of how things work and espousing stupidity online.
We know what you people and PDP have in mind and what games you plan to play and APC has been smarter than you, this time around.



and YES, every family has and shows preference for a particular child otherwise, there wont be statements like "FIRST-BORN", "LAST-BORN" ....these category of children are not treated the same or given the same privilege in a family.
That is what instills ORDER in the family
Everybody in a Party cannot be Senate President at the same time
Re: Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS by ihatesycophant(m): 7:41pm On Apr 11, 2019
Excuzeme:
You people should just not argue for the sake of argument sake!
Think deeply and factor-in all issues at stake.

Everywhere in the world (except you can point to one!), it is the RULING PARTY that chooses the Senate Govt or Head of the Legislature. HOW?

- The Ruling party was e;ected by THE MAJORITY of the citizens
- The Ruling Party "naturally" has more Legislators (majority) in the Legislature
- Thus, as expected, the HEAD of that Legislature should/would come from the Ruling party, ina Democracy which is a GAME OF NUMBERS.

Having established the above AS FACTS, in order to ensure that ROGUES like SARAKI, SNITCHES like Alli Nndume and OPPORTUNIST like Dogara and other PDP Looters who want to reap from where they did not sow, The Ruling Party has all the right to conduct AN INTERNAL REFERENDUM WITHIN ITS MEMBERS, to CHOSE ONE OF THEM as their LEADER IN THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY since it is these sam RULING PARTY MEMBERS that will chose ONE OF THEM as SENATE PRESIDENT, ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE.

How is this so difficult for people like you to understand, that this is DEMOCRATIC, LEGITIMATE and even DESIRABLE!
or do you think the MAJORITY who voted for the APC, want to see a situation like what happened the last time when the PDP used a ROGUE named Saraki, to steal the Senate Presidency and after that, ensured that the programs of the APC were always impeded and were never allowed to fly, and in the process, making these majority suffer?

I know that CHAOS is what the Igbos (who voted over 99% for PDP in the South East in 2015 and 2019) want, as SPOILERS but it wont happen again. Everyone is wise to their antics right now
Young man, you know next to nothing about democracy or politics. Constitutionally a senate is a separate arm of government just like the executive and judiciary. They operate independently without interference of one another. However, politically party tend to wade into issues at certain times. Besides, party has no constitutional right to dictate who and who to become their leaders. The constitution empowers them to choose among them a senate president, without referring to a single party whether on a majority level or minority. But because of universal convention that we always have ruling party having majority in the senate or house, the leader is often chosen from the majority. Let me quickly digress, like Sokoto and Bauchi that their house of assemblies are populated by opposition party and the ruling party is PDP, did you think APC will fold its hands and allow PDP to choose speaker of the assembly? I just need your answer.
The problem of APC is power tussle, everybody want to belong and the ones that have the power want to take all and downplay the rest. How would someone born five children and publicly say he prefer one to the rest. The beginning of unrest in the home. You cannot make one an angel and the rest devils. Why sponsoring them in your party in the first place? APC just undoing itself with that attitude. They play the same game in 2015 and it boomeranged. They've never learned of the error and have started same approach. These people are adults, a party must learn to lobby and not exert authority at will, it won't work in a democracy.
Re: Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS by ihatesycophant(m): 7:50pm On Apr 11, 2019
Excuzeme:
'Regions or Zones dont lead a Legislature!
It is ONE PERSON (like that Rogue called Saraki!) that leads a Legislature and he comes from a Region/Zone..

People like you should stop feigning ignorance of how things work and espousing stupidity online.
We know what you people and PDP have in mind and what games you plan to play and APC has been smarter than you, this time around.



and YES, every family has and shows preference for a particular child otherwise, there wont be statements like "FIRST-BORN", "LAST-BORN" ....these category of children are not treated the same or given the same privilege in a family.
That is what instills ORDER in the family
Everybody in a Party cannot be Senate President at the same time
From this your statement is shows you're still a young chap and don't know what is obtainable in a family. As you're growing up, if this is the type of mentality you wish to portray in home and politics, you will lose many grounds. I've answered some of these your rants in my comment above.
Re: Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS by Excuzeme: 7:30am On Apr 12, 2019
ihatesycophant:
Young man, you know next to nothing about democracy or politics. Constitutionally a senate is a separate arm of government just like the executive and judiciary. They operate independently without interference of one another. However, politically party tend to wade into issues at certain times. Besides, party has no constitutional right to dictate who and who to become their leaders. The constitution empowers them to choose among them a senate president, without referring to a single party whether on a majority level or minority. But because of universal convention that we always have ruling party having majority in the senate or house, the leader is often chosen from the majority. Let me quickly digress, like Sokoto and Bauchi that their house of assemblies are populated by opposition party and the ruling party is PDP, did you think APC will fold its hands and allow PDP to choose speaker of the assembly? I just need your answer.
The problem of APC is power tussle, everybody want to belong and the ones that have the power want to take all and downplay the rest. How would someone born five children and publicly say he prefer one to the res[/b]t. The beginning of unrest in the home. You cannot make one an angel and the rest devils. Why sponsoring them in your party in the first place? APC just undoing itself with that attitude. They play the same game in 2015 and it boomeranged. They've never learned of the error and have started same approach. These people are adults, a party must learn to lobby and not exert authority at will, it won't work in a democracy.
[b]Rude boy, it is only Yiibo people that give their Daddy a kick in the rib, to wake him up.
Your reply is so dumb, yet you want to claim you have 'an idea' of what is being discussed? shocked shocked

The bolded part of your statement above, is CONFIRMATION that you do not comprehend what is being discussed or maybe it is just your analogy that is senseless?


It is not just a case of "prefering one" to the others, the issue here is 'The father had a meeting with his children and in that meeting, four out of the five children AGREED with the father, that one of them will be responsible for signing Cheques on his behalf or act as CEO of his company, in his absence".
That is more like it.
The one dissenting child is like the PDP wailing all over the place...what can he do or does henot understand that the decision of Four children will supersede that of a single child?
Incase you still cant comprehend, LAWAN is the child chosen by the other three chilkdren and their father, their Father is Buhari and the wailing son is like Alli Ndume or PDP wailers like you
grin grin
Re: Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS by Excuzeme: 7:56am On Apr 12, 2019
ihatesycophant:
From this your statement is shows you're still a young chap and don't know what is obtainable in a family. As you're growing up, if this is the type of mentality you wish to portray in home and politics, you will lose many grounds. I've answered some of these your rants in my comment above.
Honestly, l am not interested in debating issues with slowpokes and dolts like you who know nothing yet think they know something.

Your comment was the least educative of all the comments l have read on this thread and it shows you are just an empty barrel struggling very hard to appear informed.
GTF outta my face and stop polluting the atmosphere with your inane comments.
Even your father is not intelligent enough to debate issues with me, when l was your age
Re: Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS by ihatesycophant(m):
Excuzeme:
Rude boy, it is only Yiibo people that give their Daddy a kick in the rib, to wake him up.
Your reply is so dumb, yet you want to claim you have 'an idea' of what is being discussed? shocked shocked

The bolded part of your statement above, is CONFIRMATION that you do not comprehend what is being discussed or maybe it is just your analogy that is senseless?


It is not just a case of "prefering one" to the others, the issue here is 'The father had a meeting with his children and in that meeting, four out of the five children AGREED with the father, that one of them will be responsible for signing Cheques on his behalf or act as CEO of his company, in his absence".
That is more like it.
The one dissenting child is like the PDP wailing all over the place...what can he do or does henot understand that the decision of Four children will supersede that of a single child?
Incase you still cant comprehend, LAWAN is the child chosen by the other three chilkdren and their father, their Father is Buhari and the wailing son is like Alli Ndume or PDP wailers like you
grin grin
As I was growing up my parents taught me to be weary of human being that see the truth and tend to use one finger to cover it up. In their quest to further sink the message into my brain, they always go farther to let me know that what a whole hand cannot do successfully, a single finger cannot do anything.
After x-raying the political and constitutional backing, you take desire to justify your junk ideology and political jaundice by going further to give narration not in tandem with reality. I tell you, you cannot love Buhari and APC the way I do. If you're true supporter of Buhari or APC you should be fed up of the in-fighting within the APC ranks. Same attitude of yours was what Marafa was displaying thinking he loves Buhari and APC but only fighting for his personal interest. Who's taking APC to court in Zamfara? Who took APC to court in Rivers state? The same acclaimed lovers of Buhari and APC. The survival of APC cannot be sustained with the kind of politics they are playing there. Today courts are nullifying must of their primaries because of high-handedness of the leadership to harness the different groups in the party but tend to love one than the other. The intent of using Buhari to perpetrate unlawful thing is the greatest undoing of the party and some supporters like you. Buhari has never come out that he prefer anyone but you people are just using his name to roughing the ground. If he has come out to say he wanted Lawal, a person like Ndume would have stepped down. Everyone crying up and down of party supremacy are just doing that for personal interest, not because of the love they have for APC but they want to have total control of the system. Even as worse as PDP is, they've never micro-zone position of leadership of National Assembly to individual but they micro-zone it to region and then lobby within the region their preferred candidate without anyone knowing about it. All you hear from the news is PDP has finally settle for this person or that. But naively micro-zoning it to thinking it will go down well with the rest is the greatest political novice of anyone. We are talking of national issue and not a state or local government politics that you will just sit in your living room and dictate what and what should happen. The more they rock the bolt, the more in-fighting persist. The game of politics is LOBBYING not FORCE.
Re: Senate Presidency: How Oshiomhole Triggered Crisis In NASS by wilddee(m): 4:56pm On Apr 21, 2019
Ubenedictus:
How did osho ruin rivers and zamfara primaries?
he collected bribe to impose a particular candidate & unfortunately for him & those people he collected from, lost d primary.
1 2 3 Reply

How Oshiomhole Incurred Tinubu’s Wrath Over Ajimobi’s Nomination2019 Presidency: How PDP Exposed Atiku’s Ignorance – Oby EzekwesiliHow Oshiomhole Betrayed Oyegun And Tinubu – Fayose (DETAILS)234

Zahra Buhari Launches Library & Orphans' Home In Kaduna - PICSBoko Haram Suicide Bomber Intercepted Close To An IDP Camp In Borno.Graphic PicsAPC Tells Jonathan Not To Defend Hinself Against Cameron's Allegations