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Those calling for restructure are fools according to lazy country men

Tinubu will sharply disagree with u,because to him what will give us progress is ethnicity and tribalism in other 2 archive a selfish goal.

This man has been making sense lately.

Tinubu will sharply disagree with u,because to him what will give us progress is ethnicity and tribalism in other 2 archive a selfish goal.

RichBoy247:
Senator, go and change your house Constitution first.

As for State Police, have you imagined the Police being under the control of a State governor like Yahaya Bello, Chibuzom Wike, Ajimobi the Constituted Authority, Nasir El-Rufai, Rocha's Okoroawusa, Adams Oshiomole? In less than a month, Nigeria will be in flames.

Yahaya Bello would have directed his Police Commissioner to go and lock up anybody that bears Dino in Kogi State. Chibuzom Wike would have locked up all the people in Rotimi Amaechi's village. Ajimobi the Constituted Authority would have locked up all students of LAUTECH. After destroying Yinka Aiyefele's Radio House, Ajimobi would have also have gone to destroy Yinka Aiyefele's family house. By now, Adams Oshiomole would have locked up all PDP supporters in Edo State. As for Rocha's Okoroawusa, if you don't have APC membership card, then you cannot even walk on the streets of Imo. Tinubu the Jagaban too would have deported all Omo Yeebos back to Biafran land and dumped them at Upper Iweka.

The crisis of the First Republic started when the idiot called Ladoke Akintola who was the Premier of the Western Region started using the Region controlled police to harass and intimidate Awolowo's supporters. Many Awolowo's supporters and their properties were burnt alive by Akintola's thugs. That was where/when the slang "wetie" came about meaning "wet him/her with petrol and burn him/her". The aftermath effect of the crisis consumed the traitor Ladoke Akintola and ultimately lead to the end of the First Republic.

I support community policing and not police controlled by State or Local Governments.

Nigeria federalism can never work

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOZ4T79yObI

ArticleBeast:
Sell your phone and buy foodstuff

hmm u no get joy o

RichBoy247:
Senator, go and change your house Constitution first.

As for State Police, have you imagined the Police being under the control of a State governor like Yahaya Bello, Chibuzom Wike, Ajimobi the Constituted Authority, Nasir El-Rufai, Rocha's Okoroawusa, Adams Oshiomole? In less than a month, Nigeria will be in flames.

Yahaya Bello would have directed his Police Commissioner to go and lock up anybody that bears Dino in Kogi State. Chibuzom Wike would have locked up all the people in Rotimi Amaechi's village. Ajimobi the Constituted Authority would have locked up all students of LAUTECH. After destroying Yinka Aiyefele's Radio House, Ajimobi would have also have gone to destroy Yinka Aiyefele's family house. By now, Adams Oshiomole would have locked up all PDP supporters in Edo State. As for Rocha's Okoroawusa, if you don't have APC membership card, then you cannot even walk on the streets of Imo. Tinubu the Jagaban too would have deported all Omo Yeebos back to Biafran land and dumped them at Upper Iweka.

The crisis of the First Republic started when the idiot called Ladoke Akintola who was the Premier of the Western Region started using the Region controlled police to harass and intimidate Awolowo's supporters. Many Awolowo's supporters and their properties were burnt alive by Akintola's thugs. That was where/when the slang "wetie" came about meaning "wet him/her with petrol and burn him/her". The aftermath effect of the crisis consumed the traitor Ladoke Akintola and ultimately lead to the end of the First Republic.

I support community policing and not police controlled by State or Local Governments.

We can always profer solutions....
We can create a small unit of federal police that can override politically motivated decisions at the state level....
Besides the state police can be made completely independent of the governors.. .
The source of funding and appointment of police chiefs can be made without the governors' input.

Una just dey wake up abi?

Oshin56:
Nigerian are not mature for state police due to our mentality imaging a christian as a governor of a state he can order his Men to lock up a mosques and vice versa or a Muslim is a governor of a state he can order his men to lock up any where that they are selling acholic due to there mentality

Your views here, shows you're immature to talk about the Nigerian State. You need weaning, first.

blindjustice13:
I will support anything except for state policing, it will be a great mistake for Nigeria to adopt state policing , Nigerian poilitcians are too petty and power drunk to have a tool like state police at their disposal.

There are other aras of the constitution that needs to be adjusted to fit our king of society as we have been imitating Britain for the best part of our democracy ,it just won't do,we are a perculia society and need the make laws that will be effective in our society.

Regional Police would be a good compromise. SW, SE, SS, NE, NC and NW.

Cofunded by those states in a region. That way no single governor can hijack it. There will be regional and Federal crimes.
Federal police will focus on Federal crimes and crimes perpetrated across two or more religions. We have the intelligence to formulate what will work. But political will, foresight and discipline are absent.

The issue of tribal/regional supremacy and conservativism loom large too.

RichBoy247:
Senator, go and change your house Constitution first.

As for State Police, have you imagined the Police being under the control of a State governor like Yahaya Bello, Chibuzom Wike, Ajimobi the Constituted Authority, Nasir El-Rufai, Rocha's Okoroawusa, Adams Oshiomole? In less than a month, Nigeria will be in flames.

Yahaya Bello would have directed his Police Commissioner to go and lock up anybody that bears Dino in Kogi State. Chibuzom Wike would have locked up all the people in Rotimi Amaechi's village. Ajimobi the Constituted Authority would have locked up all students of LAUTECH. After destroying Yinka Aiyefele's Radio House, Ajimobi would have also have gone to destroy Yinka Aiyefele's family house. By now, Adams Oshiomole would have locked up all PDP supporters in Edo State. As for Rocha's Okoroawusa, if you don't have APC membership card, then you cannot even walk on the streets of Imo. Tinubu the Jagaban too would have deported all Omo Yeebos back to Biafran land and dumped them at Upper Iweka.

The crisis of the First Republic started when the idiot called Ladoke Akintola who was the Premier of the Western Region started using the Region controlled police to harass and intimidate Awolowo's supporters. Many Awolowo's supporters and their properties were burnt alive by Akintola's thugs. That was where/when the slang "wetie" came about meaning "wet him/her with petrol and burn him/her". The aftermath effect of the crisis consumed the traitor Ladoke Akintola and ultimately lead to the end of the First Republic.

I support community policing and not police controlled by State or Local Governments.

U have a lot of problems with ur sense

RichBoy247:
Senator, go and change your house Constitution first.

As for State Police, have you imagined the Police being under the control of a State governor like Yahaya Bello, Chibuzom Wike, Ajimobi the Constituted Authority, Nasir El-Rufai, Rocha's Okoroawusa, Adams Oshiomole? In less than a month, Nigeria will be in flames.

Yahaya Bello would have directed his Police Commissioner to go and lock up anybody that bears Dino in Kogi State. Chibuzom Wike would have locked up all the people in Rotimi Amaechi's village. Ajimobi the Constituted Authority would have locked up all students of LAUTECH. After destroying Yinka Aiyefele's Radio House, Ajimobi would have also have gone to destroy Yinka Aiyefele's family house. By now, Adams Oshiomole would have locked up all PDP supporters in Edo State. As for Rocha's Okoroawusa, if you don't have APC membership card, then you cannot even walk on the streets of Imo. Tinubu the Jagaban too would have deported all Omo Yeebos back to Biafran land and dumped them at Upper Iweka.

The crisis of the First Republic started when the idiot called Ladoke Akintola who was the Premier of the Western Region started using the Region controlled police to harass and intimidate Awolowo's supporters. Many Awolowo's supporters and their properties were burnt alive by Akintola's thugs. That was where/when the slang "wetie" came about meaning "wet him/her with petrol and burn him/her". The aftermath effect of the crisis consumed the traitor Ladoke Akintola and ultimately lead to the end of the First Republic.

I support community policing and not police controlled by State or Local Governments.

everything you said is WOULD. Let me ask you a question. How long are going to continue like this?

Oshin56:
Nigerian are not mature for state police due to our mentality imaging a christian as a governor of a state he can order his Men to lock up a mosques and vice versa or a Muslim is a governor of a state he can order his men to lock up any where that they are selling acholic due to there mentality

State police is 1 million times better than federal police. U people should stop talking nonsense

AreaFada2:
Regional Police would be a good compromise. SW, SE, SS, NE, NC and NW.

Cofunded by those states in a region. That way no single governor can hijack it. There will be regional and Federal crimes.
Federal police will focus on Federal crimes and crimes perpetrated across two or more religions. We have the intelligence to formulate what will work. But political will, foresight and discipline are absent.

The issue of tribal/regional supremacy and conservativism loom large too.

all this are enough to set the country ablaze. Even regional policing can be used as a tool to undermine federal might. We must proceed with caution on this issue.

Majornuggets:
Any kind hearted person in the house, I’m so hungry right now I haven’t eaten since last night . I not lazy things just got complicated which is beyond me ... I honestly need a little boost .

Get life bro.

Stop begging. You have money to subscribe but no money to eat.

Ask your neighbor to give you some Garri

StaffofOrayan:
Lol

""OF all Decrees enacted in Nigeria, none is more controversial than Decree No 34 of 1966. It was promulgated on May 24, 1966 by then Head of State Major General Johnson Thomas Umunnakwe Aguiyi Ironsi(1924-1966). It was called Unification Decree while some critics at that time labelled it De-unification Decree. It was the Decree that started the death of Regionalism-an issue which is still generating controversy presently. Although then Head of State, General Yakubu Gowon, repealed Decree 34 on August 31, 1966 through Decree 9, a large portion of the Decree is still effective till date.


General Gowon further compounded it by promulgating Decree 14 of 1967 which broke Nigeria into twelve states and provided for Military Governors for each state. With Decrees 34, 8 and 14 regionalism was finally buried. On assumption to power, General Ironsi promulgated the Constitution (Suspension and Modification) Decree 1966. Decree No 1 dated January 17, 1966 but not published in the Official Gazette until March 4, 1966. He then issued public order Decree No 33 dated May 24, 1966 which dissolved eighty-one political associations and twenty-six tribal and cultural associations.

At the early stage of his tenure, he appointed a three-man advisory team made up of Chief Francis Nwokedi, a Permanent Secretary, Dr. Pius Charles Nwabafor Okigbo (1924-2000) and Colonel Patrick Anwunah, who later became Chairman and Head of the Orientation Committee at that time. He replaced the then Attorney-General and Minister of Justice, Dr. Taslim Olawale Elias (1914-1991) with Chief Gabriel Chike Michael Onyiuke (SAN), former Director, Public Prosecution, Eastern Nigeria (1960-1965) who is from Nimo in present Anambra State.

In a speech to the nation on January 28, 1966, he denounced the ills of the Abubakar Tafawa Balewa regime and outlined necessary reforms. “All Nigerians”, he declared,” want an end to regionalism. Tribal loyalties and activities which promote tribal consciousness and sectional interests must give way to the urgent task of national reconstruction. The Federal Military Government will preserve Nigeria as one strong nation.” He then went on to promise “administrative reforms” and referred specifically to several matters in which regional as well as personal interests were known to have had decisive influence. These were official appointments, public investments, and the universities.""

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2017/09/past-present-wahala-decree-34-1966-1/amp/

Gowon ended regional government n resource control in Nigeria.

I agree with everything u said except state police!

We're not there yet... Let's learn how to crawl before running.

In a speech to the nation on January 28, 1966, he
(Head of State Major General Johnson Thomas Umunnakwe Aguiyi Ironsi(1924-1966) denounced the ills of the Abubakar Tafawa Balewa regime and outlined necessary reforms. “All Nigerians”, he declared,” want an end to regionalism. Tribal loyalties and activities which promote tribal consciousness and sectional interests must give way to the urgent task of national reconstruction. The Federal Military Government will preserve Nigeria as one strong nation.” He then went on to promise “administrative reforms” and referred specifically to several matters in which regional as well as personal interests were known to have had decisive influence.

Ironsi ended regional government

PrecisionFx:
Gowon ended regional government n resource control in Nigeria.

Then Nigeria should not be fit to have state legislature and state judiciary. In fact, Nigeria should not attach 'Federal Republic" to its name. You cannot have all those, and claim to be "too petty" to have/run a state police. That's absolute nonsense. Unfortunately, it's regular citizens that support the nonsense.

I also assume that the C in C and all his police bosses were imported from heaven. They are not Nigerians.

blindjustice13:
I will support anything except for state policing, it will be a great mistake for Nigeria to adopt state policing , Nigerian poilitcians are too petty and power drunk to have a tool like state police at their disposal.

There are other aras of the constitution that needs to be adjusted to fit our king of society as we have been imitating Britain for the best part of our democracy ,it just won't do,we are a perculia society and need the make laws that will be effective in our society.

It takes some kind of sickness to lie with a straight face like you just did.

He ended the "regional government" (according to you) and yet appointed Military Governors to administer the regional governments you claimed that he "ended".

Kudos to your crap.



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StaffofOrayan:
In a speech to the nation on January 28, 1966, he
(Head of State Major General Johnson Thomas Umunnakwe Aguiyi Ironsi(1924-1966) denounced the ills of the Abubakar Tafawa Balewa regime and outlined necessary reforms. “All Nigerians”, he declared,” want an end to regionalism. Tribal loyalties and activities which promote tribal consciousness and sectional interests must give way to the urgent task of national reconstruction. The Federal Military Government will preserve Nigeria as one strong nation.” He then went on to promise “administrative reforms” and referred specifically to several matters in which regional as well as personal interests were known to have had decisive influence.

Ironsi ended regional government

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PrecisionFx:
Gowon ended regional government n resource control in Nigeria.

Yes. Gown stopped regional govt system.

Regional govts still existed intact when Ironsi was killed.

pchukwudi:
Then Nigeria should not be fit to have state legislature and state judiciary. In fact, Nigeria should not attach 'Federal Republic" to its name. You cannot have all those, and claim to be "too petty" to have/run a state police. That's absolute nonsense. Unfortunately, it's regular citizens that support the nonsense.

I also assume that the C in C and all his police bosses were imported from heaven. They are not Nigerians.

so let me ask you ,who will be responsible for the salaries of state police? How easy do you think it will be for a state government to control a cp who receives salary from a state government?

Regular citizens know it is them that will suffer the effect most. Like I said ,I am good with any other adjustment in the constitution.Until you are able to convince people how state policing will curb crime, you have no argument here so instead of calling my opinion nonsense I suggest you bring out your points and stop ranting.

kikake:
True federalism necessitates state police, or regional police, for states that shall agree to congregate as region.

Boko Haram and so-called Bandits violence could have been a thing of the past if northern soldiers and police who understand the language of Boko boys/Bandits, and what they truly want, are up against Boko Haram.

Boko Haram wants a country to be governed with Islamic Sharia criminal justice system. It's the same unconstitutional Sharia criminal justice system adopted by twelve northern Nigeria's states beginning 1999, as a veiled protest against the emergence of the "unbeliever" Obasanjo, as president.

No amount of federal police or armed forces can defeat Boko Haram/Bandits.

Governing Nigeria under the present quasi unitary governance system is like postponing the EVIL DAY for all in Nigeria.

Leave the confines of Nigeria first and come back, so that you can't be pouring out this type of your retrogressive suggestions on the public space.

Is your Community Police you suggested and beat your chest immune to abuse by whoever wants to use them?

I personally prefer regional policing as per the six geo-political regions in the country. It is large enough that no one governor has exclusive power over the police, but a smaller enough region for effective policing.

StaffofOrayan:
In a speech to the nation on January 28, 1966, he
(Head of State Major General Johnson Thomas Umunnakwe Aguiyi Ironsi(1924-1966) denounced the ills of the Abubakar Tafawa Balewa regime and outlined necessary reforms. “All Nigerians”, he declared,” want an end to regionalism. Tribal loyalties and activities which promote tribal consciousness and sectional interests must give way to the urgent task of national reconstruction. The Federal Military Government will preserve Nigeria as one strong nation.” He then went on to promise “administrative reforms” and referred specifically to several matters in which regional as well as personal interests were known to have had decisive influence.

Ironsi ended regional government

In the speech u posted, he didn't decree an end to regional govt n resource control.

Under Ironsi we still had 4 regions with 4 regional leaders , he only added provinces within each region n that's all. At that point every region paid 30% of their revenue to the centre n kept 70% to develop their region, that's resource control.

The Unification Decree: No. 34 of 1966


Decree No. 34

[24th May 1966]



THE FEDERAL MILITARY GOVERNMENT hereby decrees as follows:

Subject to the provisions of this Decree, Nigeria shall on 24th May 1966 (in this decree referred to as ‘the appointed day’) cease to be a Federation and shall accordingly as from that day be a Republic, by the name of the Republic of Nigeria, consisting of the whole of the territory which immediately before that day was comprised in the Federation.
2.

As from the appointed day—

the Federal Military Government and the Federal Executive Council shall be known respectively as the National Military Government and The Executive Council;
the Federal territory shall be known as the Capital territory;
the provinces, including Kaduna capital territory, in schedule 1 of this Decree which immediately before the appointed day were respectively comprised in Northern Nigeria, Eastern Nigeria, Western Nigeria and Mid-Western Nigeria shall be known respectively as the Northern group of Provinces, the Eastern group of Provinces, the Western group of Provinces and the Mid-Western group of Provinces;
for the purpose of administration each group of provinces shall subject to the authority of the Head of the National Military Government, be under the general direction and control of a Military Governor appointed by the Head of the National Military Government;
Act No. 20 of 1963 (that is to say the Constitution of the Federation) may be cited as the Constitution of the Republic.
Without prejudice to section 8 of this Decree, the person who immediately before the appointed day holds the office of Military Governor of a Region shall be deemed to have been appointed by the Head of the National Military Government as Military Governor of the corresponding group of provinces with effect from that day.
The National Military Government may either conditionally or unconditionally delegate to a Military Governor of a group of provinces power to make laws by edict for peace, order and good government with respect to any matter specified in the delegation in relation to that group of provinces"

You enjoy playing the victim but none of you dolts want to admit that just 6 years after colonial rule an Igbo man thought he knows best and disrupted everything.

pchukwudi:
It takes some kind of sickness to lie with a straight face like you just did.

He ended the "regional government" (according to you) and yet appointed Military Governors to administer the regional governments you claimed that he "ended".

Kudos to your crap.

Yea, we are saying the same thing.

Abolish all State Assemblies.

Abolish all State Courts.

It's obvious that the governors are controlling them, since they are all paid by the states.

After all, the states are printing/stealing money to pay all those their judicial and legislative officers who make and interpret state laws. So, how can the state pay/control the agency that can enforce those state laws and order?

Let's abolish the state structures and demote all governors to mere mayors or local chiefs so that folks like you can feel safe.

blindjustice13:
so let me ask you ,who will be responsible for the salaries of state police? How easy do you think it will be for a state government to control a cp who receives salary from a state government?

Regular citizens know it is them that will suffer the effect most. Like I said ,I am good with any other adjustment in the constitution.Until you are able to convince people how state policing will curb crime, you have no argument here so instead of calling my opinion nonsense I suggest you bring out your points and stop ranting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGZnFPjWuc4

Group calls for review of Nigerian constitution

The Federal Military Government hereby decrees as follows: Subject to the provisions of this Decree, Nigeria shall on 24th May 1966 (in this decree referred to as 'the appointed day') cease to be a Federation and shall accordingly as from that day be a Republic, by the name of the Republic of Nigeria, consisting of the whole of the territory which immediately before that day was comprised in the Federation- The Unification Decree: No. 34 of 1966" -General JTU Aguiyi-Ironsi?

PrecisionFx:
In the speech u posted, he didn't decree an end to regional govt n resource control.

Under Ironsi we still had 4 regions with 4 regional leaders , he only added provinces within each region n that's all. At that point every region paid 30% of their revenue to the centre n kept 70% to develop their region, that's resource control.

Showboating fukk

Why don't you condemn portions of the constitution that allows you your gargantuan pay package?

PrecisionFx:
State police is 1 million times better than federal police. U people should stop talking nonsense

if you can mention ten states that can manage state police apart from Lagos that's when I will know you are talking sense anything from that guy go and sleep

Truthisit:
Your views here, shows you're immature to talk about the Nigerian State. You need weaning, first.

I will still stand on this Nigerian are not mature enough for state police

pchukwudi:
It takes some kind of sickness to lie with a straight face like you just did.

He ended the "regional government" (according to you) and yet appointed Military Governors to administer the regional governments you claimed that he "ended".

Kudos to your crap.

The more important question is , what if he did? The guy is long dead. This is an obvious non sequitur and has absolutely no relevance to the debate.