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Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by dapadawee(m): 10:42pm On Apr 12, 2019
newsynews:
Channels TV presenter, Maupe Ogun has come to the defence of journalist Kadaria Ahmed after a man claimed she has stopped being a Muslim.

The man identified as Amb. Abdulrahman Yahaya also made a public threat on Twitter where he described the journalist as a walking corpse for converting from Islam to Christianity.

In his words:



Reacting to the allegation, Maupe Ogun labeled it as an attempted at shifting attention from the struggle Kadaria Ahmed was pushing against the loss of lives in Zamfara state.

She tweeted:



She added by clearing the air on claims that Kadaria is no more a Muslim:



https://lailasnews.com/maupe-ogun-kadaria-ahmed-muslim/
Moslem fear them o. their alluha aru na to hack person die o
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by chiedu7: 10:44pm On Apr 12, 2019
Kokoebapluse:
Guy things are not the way you put it. Islam is the most peaceful religion am a Christian before I converted to Muslim. The most dangerous things on Earth is paganism which full in christainity. I pray may Almighty Allah guide lost sheep to Islam. Amin
No vex explain to us then Imams teaching men how to beat their wifes


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ_HHZvt31U

Explain to us why a lady who converted to Jesus is getting death threats from moslems

www.nairaland.com/attachments/9165215_img20190411wa0003_jpeg6abbf9eeb4a8424c8409e32cca24f1a5


Lets not discuss Jihad angry
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Muscomide: 10:45pm On Apr 12, 2019
It is really saying something when those charged with reporting the new now become the news. Kadaria and Maupe should be careful lest they lose credibility as reporters.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Topmaike007(m): 10:46pm On Apr 12, 2019
Richdad50:
shocked

The real Islam is the one being practiced by ISIS. That is the real Islam and tradition handed down by the Prophet. Anything otherwise practiced by this modern Muslims is either a lie or a pretense.

The modus operandi of ISIS was the same with Usman Dan Fodio, Prophet Mohammed. It is the same doctrine of harrassment and subduction that lies in the hearts of many.

Richdad
Islam na Religion shiooor,I better stay an atheist than to be a Muslim if it is the only Religion in the world
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by poseidon12: 10:46pm On Apr 12, 2019
Richdad50:
shocked

The real Islam is the one being practiced by ISIS. That is the real Islam and tradition handed down by the Prophet. Anything otherwise practiced by this modern Muslims is either a lie or a pretense.

The modus operandi of ISIS was the same with Usman Dan Fodio, Prophet Mohammed. It is the same doctrine of harrassment and subduction that lies in the hearts of many.

Richdad
Exactly. I drew that conclusion too after reading the book on the life and times of Mohammed.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by IMAliyu(m): 10:47pm On Apr 12, 2019
Origin:
You cant always malign another's religion and say you are peaceful.


You are a trouble maker.


God is constant and same. Whether in the bible or the quran. But people need serious understanding to have peace of mind.


We will keep educating and hope people can find love in their hearts. Because you cannot keep spewing hate about other people's tribes, customs, culture or religion without any understanding.



Una go just always de fight. Respect is needed and must be reciprocated.
The only way we can have peace and respect between our selves is if we can understand that there are things we will never agree on and that we can not force another person to believe in it.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by dapadawee(m): 10:48pm On Apr 12, 2019
newsynews:
Channels TV presenter, Maupe Ogun has come to the defence of journalist Kadaria Ahmed after a man claimed she has stopped being a Muslim.

The man identified as Amb. Abdulrahman Yahaya also made a public threat on Twitter where he described the journalist as a walking corpse for converting from Islam to Christianity.

In his words:



Reacting to the allegation, Maupe Ogun labeled it as an attempted at shifting attention from the struggle Kadaria Ahmed was pushing against the loss of lives in Zamfara state.

She tweeted:



She added by clearing the air on claims that Kadaria is no more a Muslim:



https://lailasnews.com/maupe-ogun-kadaria-ahmed-muslim/
Islam is a tool in the hands of the � infact the only the devil can kill destroy easily is through islam
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Heffalump(m): 10:55pm On Apr 12, 2019
kehinde1588:
Nothing is wrong o. Do not allow some set of people push you into believing Islam is bad. In Islam there is no compulsion in practising or accepting the religion and that is clearly stated in the Quran. Acceptance of Islam should not be forced on any one and it is seriously condemned. Islam is very tolerant even the non Muslims are allowed to live in an Islamic state peacefully provided they meet up with the conditions. Do not allow some set of people mentality push you into believing Islam is bad.
I differ to agree with you. Your mentality could be slightly different perhaps, you're a Yoruba Muslim. That does not mean that your opinion is generally applied on a wider scale.

A Fulani Muslim in the far North has an entirely variant understanding about freedom of religion. This is the reason why jihadists are more common in the Northern part of the country. We have often heard that any Muslim that converts to other religion, especially in the North automatically becomes a rejected enemy of the entire Muslim community where he hails from, even down to his family roots. In fact the punishment is death! In the West, we have heard of individuals that have been banished from home simply because they convert to christianity from Islam.

However, a Christian may decide to choose Islam today and that does not change the relationship between him and his family members. Tell me, which of these two religions is more peaceful and tolerant to uphold? The truth is very glaring bro shocked
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by sagenaija: 11:08pm On Apr 12, 2019
Can Moslem claim now that this ambassador so-called is not following Islam?

Will the excuse be that he is not aware of what Islam teaches?

Where is MURIC in all these? A convenient silence?

ISLAM A RELIGION OF PEACE; SAYS WHO?
The claim that “Islam is a Religion of Peace” is all over the place, and it has been the chant of “moderate Muslims” particularly in recent years.
Did the early Moslems shout this during their time? The simple answer is ‘NO!’

It is only because of the prevailing worldview that Islam is attempting to paint itself in acceptable light.

Are Moslems who claim that Mohamed was a man of peace sane? Have they read their books and still hold on to such claims? The answer is ALWAYS unfortunately: No. they know next to nothing about the religion they claim to follow. What they run with is only what their Imams tell them about their religion.

What makes a religion peaceful or not is not what the followers say. What makes it peaceful is what its books say about how to practice their religion. So, what does the Koran say about Islam?

“Islam” means ‘surrender’. So, Islam’s approach has always been: surrender or face extermination. Those who claim otherwise are only lying.
Q 2:216-218:
Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you… Indeed, those who have believed and those who have emigrated and fought (jihad) in the cause of Allah – those expect the mercy of Allah. And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

One verse that is used to argue that the koran advocates peace is Q 5:32:
…if anyone kills a person, it would be as if he killed the whole of mankind; and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole of mankind.
However, this may be the most misquoted verse in the Koran. The whole verse provides the context:
On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. (Q 5:32)
Notice that this command is described as having been ordained for “the Children of Israel”– i.e. the Jews. It is not said to be a command for Moslems today.

ISLAM ON APOSTACY
Bukhari, volume 9, #17
"Narrated Abdullah: Allah's Messenger said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Messenger, cannot be shed except in three cases: in Qisas (equality in punishment) for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (Apostate) and leaves the Muslims."
Bukhari, volume 9, #57
Narrated Ikrima, "Some atheists were brought to Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's messenger forbade it, saying, "Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire)." I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Messenger, "Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him."

Deception is second nature in Islam.
A Moslem may choose to toe the path of peace. But that does not mean the religion of Islam advocates peace.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by kehinde1588(m): 11:25pm On Apr 12, 2019
Heffalump:
I differ to agree with you. Your mentality could be slightly different perhaps, you're a Yoruba Muslim. That does not mean that your opinion is generally applied on a wider scale.

A Fulani Muslim in the far North has an entirely variant understanding about freedom of religion. This is the reason why jihadists are more common in the Northern part of the country. We have often heard that any Muslim that converts to other religion, especially in the North automatically becomes a rejected enemy of the entire Muslim community where he hails from, even down to his family roots. In fact the punishment is death! In the West, we have heard of individuals that have been banished from home simply because they convert to christianity from Islam.

However, a Christian may decide to choose Islam today and that does not change the relationship between him and his family members. Tell me, which of these two religions is more peaceful and tolerant to uphold? The truth is very glaring bro shocked
Everything boils down to our understanding about the religion we practice and the principles that guide such religion. Like I said earlier, in Islam, no one can force the religion on you. You have every right to choose what you want to do. Even as a Muslim, if one renounces his/her religion, only the recognized body(the authority) is allowed to decide the faith of such person and not an individual or individuals and that's only applicable in a core Islamic country not in a secular country like Nigeria.

The principle of Islam is clearly different from the principle of Christianity. As a Muslim, you must follow what the Quran says strictly. Going against it is tantamount to disobeying Allah, which is sinful.

Forget all these propaganda about Islam. Islam is a peaceful religion
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by masseratti: 11:26pm On Apr 12, 2019
Sholaco:
Because you married a Muslim, you are now an advocate for a Muslim sister....you better allow them do there thing. Our way in the south west is different from their way in the north. Be careful sad northern Muslim are extremely wicked. Be warned
oga am a Christian, Yorùbá, I think she is being more vocal cos of her profession not her hubby religion, btw her hubby might b a Christian for all you like, I have a friend that is his surname is Yusuf and he is a Christian... Be guided.. No room for religious intolerance in Yoruba land.

Why has DSS not invited the man that made such a pronouncement? Others might want to flow suit, no room for extremism in Nigeria, the senate must take this threat to life up please.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Yusman316(m): 11:35pm On Apr 12, 2019
Heffalump:
I differ to agree with you. Your mentality could be slightly different perhaps, you're a Yoruba Muslim. That does not mean that your opinion is generally applied on a wider scale.

A Fulani Muslim in the far North has an entirely variant understanding about freedom of religion. This is the reason why jihadists are more common in the Northern part of the country. We have often heard that any Muslim that converts to other religion, especially in the North automatically becomes a rejected enemy of the entire Muslim community where he hails from, even down to his family roots. In fact the punishment is death! In the West, we have heard of individuals that have been banished from home simply because they convert to christianity from Islam.

However, a Christian may decide to choose Islam today and that does not change the relationship between him and his family members. Tell me, which of these two religions is more peaceful and tolerant to uphold? The truth is very glaring bro shocked
It's people like u that probably haven't been to the far north, that are always making assertions about Northerner's behavior and what not. Tell me how many Christian girls can take a Muslim home, introduce them as their husband to be, and get a warm family reception? Very few. Intolerance is man made and not religious. I am a Muslim and my two closest and best friends are Christians, what do u say to that
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by sagenaija: 11:46pm On Apr 12, 2019
kehinde1588:
Everything boils down to our understanding about the religion we practice and the principles that guide such religion. Like I said earlier, in Islam, no one can force the religion on you. You have every right to choose what you want to do. Even as a Muslim, if one renounces his/her religion, only the recognized body(the authority) is allowed to decide the faith of such person and not an individual or individuals and that's only applicable in a core Islamic country not in a secular country like Nigeria.

The principle of Islam is clearly different from the principle of Christianity. As a Muslim, you must follow what the Quran says strictly. Going against it is tantamount to disobeying Allah, which is sinful.

Forget all these propaganda about Islam. Islam is a peaceful religion
Can you show us from your books - Koran, hadith, etc where it say that Islam is a religion of peace?
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Enemyofpeace: 11:47pm On Apr 12, 2019
DoTheNeedful:
I have never seen or heard about anyone threatened with death for abandoning Christianity. A lot of reorientation need to by done within Islam! Many things about the religion are so much incompatible with 21st century.

The fact is that many laws and beliefs in Islam were shaped by the civilization of the time of Muhammed. A lot of socio-cultural revolution and civilization has taken place since that time; this is a major reason why many people are having problems with the religion today.

NB: Before any hypocritical Muslim quote me, please show me what the Koran and the Hadiths say about apostasy undecided. The continuous practice of a religion should never be by force even when you are born into such religion. angry
Islam no be religion nau, na occult group dem be
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by ayosam4real: 11:52pm On Apr 12, 2019
Adexvivacity:
Deuteronomy 13:

6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.
it's obviously funny how you interpret the Holy Scripture to butress your point to justify that Christianity also support killing during conversation to Islam. However, may I tell you your reasons are baseless as you never read to balance the scripture rather you read the Bible to corroborate your satanic agenda and satisfy your thirst for blood.
Let me enlighten you a bit. The Holy Bible held in high esteem the sacredness of souls that was y he said
1. "thou shall not kill".
2. How do you explain, in today's ethics, Deuteronomy 13?

I'm assuming you are really seeking an answer and not just bringing this forward in an attempt to embarrass people who believe in scripture. I suspect the latter, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt with my answer.

First and most important is to know the context of where this message is delivered. If you haven't read the bible much and if you aren't very familiar with the stories of the Old Testament then this could look like disturbing directives. A lot of times people who seek to discredit the bible will bring texts like this out. The suggestion is usually an attempt to cast these directions in the light of today's society in which really they were never meant for.

Second, some background is in order. Ideally I recommend you go read your bible yourself. Go read from the beginning of Deuteronomy and you'll get what this is all about. For the sake of the readers here and those actually wanting to find the truth I will give a summary.

It's pretty much universally accepted that Deuteronomy was written by Moses around 3,500 years ago. The text in question is part of the narrative of the, "Law of Moses." This is not to be confused with the Decalogue (Ten Commandments).

The Law of Moses consisted of two basic sets of laws, the civil laws and the ritualistic laws. The ritualistic laws referred to all regarding the conduct of the sacrificial system and the conduct of the Levite priests. The civil law is what Deuteronomy 13 is part of. This was written on a scroll by the hand of Moses and kept on the side of the arc of the covenant. (Deuteronomy 31:24-26) All of the Law of Moses was done away with as a result of Jesus death on the cross. Colossians 2:14. Part of the reason these laws were necessary was because Israel demonstrated they were not able to keep the Ten Commandments. They had broken them before Moses had even descended he mountain; you know the story. So God gave them these laws that spelled out everything for them in detail. Reference back to Deuteronomy 31:26 the Law of Moses was called a 'witness against them', because they were idolatrous sinners who could not keep the simple Ten Commandments. Moses knew that after his death Israel would go corrupt and turn to evil, they needed a harsh and detailed law of conduct. (Deuteronomy 31:29)

I should also point out a detail here. Deuteronomy 13:9 does not suggest that you should be killing people on your own, but rather that you, as the witness of the crime, must take an active part in meeting out the punishment. This was done publicly after much deliberation. The purpose of this was to curtail the false accusations based on private grudges and the like. A person would hesitate to lead out in the execution of a person whom he knew to be innocent. So if you accused someone you had to throw the first stone.

So it's important to note that these laws were for a different age and a different people under vastly different circumstances. The nation of Israel, at this time, was made up the descendants of people who had lived in captivity for several generations. The nation that held them captive and the surrounding nations worshipped idols. Most of this idolatry involved things like orgies and human sacrifices, often young children and babies were the offerings. These were not like the religions we have today; these were evil pagan idol worshippers that conducted many atrocities that today would make our stomachs turn. If Israel turned to idolatry they would fall into ruin, that's why the strict laws concerning it. If it was tolerated it would quickly destroy the nation. In the United States there is a death sentence for even so much as planning an attack on the president, other countries have similar laws. Israel was a nation governed by God, to actively seek to bring idolatry into the nation was an attack on the government of Israel and the very fibre of the nation. In other words idolatry was high treason against the nation of Israel. They understood it and should they disagree were free to leave.

Today it's hard to understand because we don't have the hard-core pagans that existed back then and we don't generally view any religion as a threat to our nation. I guarantee you If we did we would be quick to put in many laws outlawing them and even instituting a death penalty as needed. It's not uncommon to institute harsh punishment, even the death penalty, on matters of national security. In conclusion, this third point rested the case
3. But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: ... For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away." Hebrews 8:6-13.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by wanger50(m): 11:55pm On Apr 12, 2019
Adexvivacity:
Deuteronomy 13:

6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.
This is drawn from the OLD TESTAMENT when Christianity had yet to begin.I mean this was before the coming of Christ. Christianity is based on the NEW TESTAMENT. The OLD TESTAMENT only serves today for reference purposes. In Christianity we are not permitted to murder for any reason at all
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Kokoebapluse(m): 11:57pm On Apr 12, 2019
chiedu7:
No vex explain to us then Imams teaching men how to beat their wifes


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ_HHZvt31U

Explain to us why a lady who converted to Jesus is getting death threats from moslems

www.nairaland.com/attachments/9165215_img20190411wa0003_jpeg6abbf9eeb4a8424c8409e32cca24f1a5


Lets not discuss Jihad angry
Here below is what Allah said

Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 256:
لَا إِكْرَاهَ فِي الدِّينِ قَد تَّبَيَّنَ الرُّشْدُ مِنَ الْغَيِّ فَمَن يَكْفُرْ بِالطَّاغُوتِ وَيُؤْمِن بِاللَّهِ فَقَدِ اسْتَمْسَكَ بِالْعُرْوَةِ الْوُثْقَىٰ لَا انفِصَامَ لَهَا وَاللَّهُ سَمِيعٌ عَلِيمٌ

There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error; therefore, whoever disbelieves in the Shaitan and believes in Allah he indeed has laid hold on the firmest handle, which shall not break off, and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.


Religion is not by Force or compulsory. But if you know what good for you follow Islam
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Caseless:
DoTheNeedful:
I have never seen or heard about anyone threatened with death for abandoning Christianity. A lot of reorientation need to by done within Islam! Many things about the religion are so much incompatible with 21st century.

The fact is that many laws and beliefs in Islam were shaped by the civilization of the time of Muhammed. A lot of socio-cultural revolution and civilization has taken place since that time; this is a major reason why many people are having problems with the religion today.

NB: Before any hypocritical Muslim quote me, please show me what the Koran and the Hadiths say about apostasy undecided. The continuous practice of a religion should never be by force even when you are born into such religion. angry
a boy converted to Islam and was poisoned by his uncle last year. You want more details? I can give the name of the hospital and those who supported him throughout his travail in kaduna.




BTW, go and read Deuteronomy 13: 1-12.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Tedassie(m): 12:17am On Apr 13, 2019
Heffalump:
And so what? If the young lady decides to welcome the true religion what's wrong with that?

A Christian can decide to convert to Muslim and still maintains his/ her peace with everyone. Why is it different with Muslim? It clearly shows that something is obviously wrong somewhere.
Islam is repackaged Babylonian Paganism Cult.

Quote me anywhere, brah
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by AreaFada2: 12:36am On Apr 13, 2019
chiedu7:
This proves 2 things.

1] islam is not peaceful. You leave Islam and they want to kill you.

2] God & allah are not the same. If allah were God, dont you think that allah will tell moslems not to kill christians?
Instead allah proscribes death for anybody going to worship God.

Most worrying allah tells moslems not to befriend christians, Even went as far as confirming he is not the Christian God.

Surah 5:51
O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another.
And whoever is an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them.
Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.


Now you understand why the bible & quoran say different things,they are from different spirits.

The Quoran from allah, Bible from God.

example of some differences.

THE CHRISTIAN GOD COMMANDS TO LOVE YOUR WIFE

Ephesians 5:25 (KJV)
Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;



Colossians 3:19
Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES,
and
BE NOT BITTER AGAINST THEM.


ALLAH COMMANDS TO BEAT YOUR WIFE




Qur'an (38:44) -
"And take in your hand a green branch
AND BEAT HER WITH IT,



Qur'an (4:34) -
"Men are the maintainers of women because
Allah has made some of them to
....... BEAT THEM;


So we can safely say that God & allah are different.

This video sheds more light!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-i_usnHXs
Hmmm.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Khaleell001(m): 12:49am On Apr 13, 2019
DoTheNeedful:
I have never seen or heard about anyone threatened with death for abandoning Christianity. A lot of reorientation need to by done within Islam! Many things about the religion are so much incompatible with 21st century.

The fact is that many laws and beliefs in Islam were shaped by the civilization of the time of Muhammed. A lot of socio-cultural revolution and civilization has taken place since that time; this is a major reason why many people are having problems with the religion today.

NB: Before any hypocritical Muslim quote me, please show me what the Koran and the Hadiths say about apostasy undecided. The continuous practice of a religion should never be by force even when you are born into such religion. angry
When your mind is already fixated how do you expect us to explain to you the proper application of the apostacy law.


Well, apostacy in Islām can be applied when there is an ISLAMIC state like in Saudi Arabia.
In essence, apostacy is very similar to treason which carries capital punishment for anyone who engage in it.
But in a multi-religious country like ours, the law does not apply since it's not an Islamic state.

You may argue the ifs and buts and whethers, but I have made my point.

I only answered you from an academic point of view, but if it s to mock the religion:know that a million and one mockery from you will not charge anything about the law.
Deal with it if you so wish.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by AngelicBeing: 12:59am On Apr 13, 2019
chiedu7:
This proves 2 things.

1] islam is not peaceful. You leave Islam and they want to kill you.

2] God & allah are not the same. If allah were God, dont you think that allah will tell moslems not to kill christians?
Instead allah proscribes death for anybody going to worship God.

Most worrying allah tells moslems not to befriend christians, Even went as far as confirming he is not the Christian God.

Surah 5:51
O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another.
And whoever is an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them.
Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.


Now you understand why the bible & quoran say different things,they are from different spirits.

The Quoran from allah, Bible from God.

example of some differences.

THE CHRISTIAN GOD COMMANDS TO LOVE YOUR WIFE

Ephesians 5:25 (KJV)
Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;



Colossians 3:19
Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES,
and
BE NOT BITTER AGAINST THEM.


ALLAH COMMANDS TO BEAT YOUR WIFE




Qur'an (38:44) -
"And take in your hand a green branch
AND BEAT HER WITH IT,



Qur'an (4:34) -
"Men are the maintainers of women because
Allah has made some of them to
....... BEAT THEM;


So we can safely say that God & allah are different.

This video sheds more light!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-i_usnHXs
grin cool
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by kehinde1588(m): 1:15am On Apr 13, 2019
sagenaija:
Can you show us from your books - Koran, hadith, etc where it say that Islam is a religion of peace?
The word “Islam” is derived from the word meaning “peace” in Arabic. Islam is a religion revealed to mankind with the intention of presenting a peaceful life where the infinite compassion and mercy of Allah manifests on earth. Allah calls all people to live by the moral values He sets so that compassion, mercy, peace and love can be experienced all over the world.

“O You who believe! Enter absolutely into peace (Islam). Do not follow in the footsteps of satan. He is an outright enemy to you.” (Holy Quran: 2, 208).
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by HBB1(m): 2:16am On Apr 13, 2019
The bad temper of the average Muslim was a reason to wonder as a child. About all my Muslim mates had horrible, violent tempers then. It's so bad that some of us called it the Muslim's anger (in Yoruba).

There really isn't so much difference between Judaism and Islam. Both are essentially Middle Eastern religions that are based on rules on how to pee, poo, sit,wash... And breed intolerance, pride and a holier-than-thou attitude.

It's important to understand that a man's works can never justify him before God-- never! Blood has to be shed to atone for Man's sins.

If in the previous times animals were sacrificed as atonement for sin (and Islam and Christianity agree on this), what's then atoning for the sins of the Muslim? His works? Then what separates him from the Buddhist or Hindu and when did God ask us to stop animal sacrifice?

But forgetting the brain racking, what is the fruit of Islam? I'm not talking about the sugarcoated message of peace. What is the spirit that drives it? You will see this spirit anywhere Islam has a stronghold.

If Islam were peaceful, the Arab pennisula would be the best place to live, so will Northern Nigeria!
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by chrisbaxtian(m): 3:14am On Apr 13, 2019
Richdad50:
shocked

The real Islam is the one being practiced by ISIS. That is the real Islam and tradition handed down by the Prophet. Anything otherwise practiced by this modern Muslims is either a lie or a pretense.

The modus operandi of ISIS was the same with Usman Dan Fodio, Prophet Mohammed. It is the same doctrine of harrassment and subduction that lies in the hearts of many.

Richdad
duh! ISIS has been defeated and uprooted from their last stronghold
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by chiedu7: 3:36am On Apr 13, 2019
Kokoebapluse:
Here below is what Allah said

Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 256:
لَا إِكْرَاهَ فِي الدِّينِ قَد تَّبَيَّنَ الرُّشْدُ مِنَ الْغَيِّ فَمَن يَكْفُرْ بِالطَّاغُوتِ وَيُؤْمِن بِاللَّهِ فَقَدِ اسْتَمْسَكَ بِالْعُرْوَةِ الْوُثْقَىٰ لَا انفِصَامَ لَهَا وَاللَّهُ سَمِيعٌ عَلِيمٌ

There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error; therefore, whoever disbelieves in the Shaitan and believes in Allah he indeed has laid hold on the firmest handle, which shall not break off, and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.


Religion is not by Force or compulsory. But if you know what good for you follow Islam
Then why is the lady facing death threats?

Please explain this hadith that says to kill apostates

Nasai hadith 37:92
It is not permissible to shed the blood of a Muslim except in three cases: A man who commits adultery after having married; or one who kills intentionally, in which case he deserves retaliation; or one who apostatizes after having become Muslim, in which case he deserves to be killed.'"

https://sunnah.com/nasai/37/92
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by kapelvej: 4:39am On Apr 13, 2019
DoTheNeedful:
I have never seen or heard about anyone threatened with death for abandoning Christianity. A lot of reorientation need to by done within Islam! Many things about the religion are so much incompatible with 21st century.

The fact is that many laws and beliefs in Islam were shaped by the civilization of the time of Muhammed. A lot of socio-cultural revolution and civilization has taken place since that time; this is a major reason why many people are having problems with the religion today.

NB: Before any hypocritical Muslim quote me, please show me what the Koran and the Hadiths say about apostasy undecided. The continuous practice of a religion should never be by force even when you are born into such religion. angry
I am more concerned about the Christians like maupe Ogun that equates christianity to blood sucking islam
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by bastardmod: 6:07am On Apr 13, 2019
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