Just wondering if there is an assumed average mileage expectation in Nigeria just like most foreign countries. If you are to buy a car for instance in the USA, an average of 13000 miles per year is expected, 7000 miles for UK and 15000 miles for Canada. With this it help to determine the level of usage and help place appropriate value on the vehicle or better still help the buyer to negotiate better.

Was recently shoping for a used Nigeria car that is bought brand new. Saw a 2014 Accent with 156000km (appr 96000 Miles). The seller was like na my Oga get am, him get three cars so he hardly use it. 96k miles in four years, bros you Oga na Uber driver or Ekene Dili Chukwu, so he no use am and you have 96k miles.

I bought a foreign used car with 178k miles early 2014 and as at January 2019 before selling i had 216k miles with usage within Lagos and countable times to Ibadan. I know most Nigeria are interested in how clean the body of the car is and pay little or no attention to usage and maintenance

So Gurus in the house, what is the expected average mileage per year of a car used in Nigeria do you consider okay?

Very lovely thread... Waiting for the experts to wade in.

franchuks:
Very lovely thread... Waiting for the experts to wade in.

Waiting as well

I think 6-7,000 miles. Too many traffic, short short distance and we don't go on too many road trips (roads are bad so its not even fun going on long distance road trips). On fact not much fun destinations to even go. Unlike in the US where a road trip from the east coast to the west coast can be as long as 2,000 miles (4,000 miles to and fro)

domack99:


I know most Nigeria are interested in how clean the body of the car is and pay little or no attention to usage and maintenance

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This is the part I'll never understand.

My 7 year vehicle (moderate mileage, <65,000 km) has dents, scratches, and some "tribal marks" from commercial buses (Danfo ) etc. I drive in Lagos after all and these scars are more or less rites of passage for most cars. But the mechanicals are sound. I can vouch for the powertrain, suspension, cooling system and electricals of my vehicle anyday, anytime. Yet I have been told that buyers will seriously mark down the value of the car (if I decide to sell) because of 'body' wear and tear.

I remember a Mercedes Benz ML 350 I saw at my local mechanic's place some years ago. Spotless black metallic paint and a blemish free, tan leather interior. This car really looked like it had just rolled out of the factory - until the mechanic opened the bonnet for an oil change. Apparently, the owner wasn't big on maintenance and had been skipping routine servicing. When the mechanic brought out the oil filter, it was an unrecognizable mess - completely deformed and coated in thick black sludge . Of course, the engine was heavily sludged up and the mechanics were worried about what to do next. Carry out an engine flush and risk major mechanical damage? They eventually settled on a black oil flush - but not before warning the owner of what could potentially go wrong.

I asked about the car recently and the mechanic told me the owner had sold it. I honestly pity the buyer if he/she wasn't given full information and he/she made the purchase only because the body was 'good'. With what I saw, there's no way that car won't give serious problems down the line.

Summary: the body is important but the record of use and maintenance of the other parts (powertrain etc.) is even more important. Of what use is a good body when a car keeps breaking down?

VolvoS60:


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This is the part I'll never understand.

My 7 year vehicle (moderate mileage, <65,000 km) has dents, scratches, and some "tribal marks" from commercial buses (Danfo ) etc. I drive in Lagos after all and these scars are more or less rites of passage for most cars. But the mechanicals are sound. I can vouch for the powertrain, suspension, cooling system and electricals of my vehicle anyday, anytime. Yet I have been told that buyers will seriously mark down the value of the car (if I decide to sell) because of 'body' wear and tear.

I remember a Mercedes Benz ML 350 I saw at my local mechanic's place some years ago. Spotless black metallic paint and a blemish free, tan leather interior. This car really looked like it had just rolled out of the factory - until the mechanic opened the bonnet for an oil change. Apparently, the owner wasn't big on maintenance and had been skipping routine servicing. When the mechanic brought out the oil filter, it was an unrecognizable mess - completely deformed and coated in thick black sludge . Of course, the engine was heavily sludged up and the mechanic had to do a black oil flush prior to filling up with fresh oil.

I asked about the car recently and the mechanic told me the owner had sold it. I honestly pity the buyer (if he/she wasn't given full information) the purchase was made because the body was 'good'. With what I saw, there's no way that car won't give serious problems down the line.

Summary: the body is important but the record of use and maintenance of the other parts (powertrain etc.) is even more important. Of what use is a good body when a car keeps breaking down?

Depends...
Power train issues I.e Engine/tranny can be solved by an easy & some times cheap replacement but Rust, bent chassis,cabin water leakage!!! Bros I will take a bad powertrain - good body anytime.. Especially for our regular everyday Toyotas & Hondas.. I learnt this lesson the hard way.

for three years when I flogged my sienna everyday for 6days a week I hovered around 6xxx to 7xxxkm before I changed my oil every 6months that's 12k km or 14k km a year. if I travelled to Ogun state which has always been once in a blue moon for that year then I hover around 16xxxkm for that year

thebigkendo:


Depends...
Power train issues I.e Engine/tranny can be solved by an easy & some times cheap replacement but Rust, bent chassis,cabin water leakage!!! Bros I will take a bad powertrain - good body anytime.. Especially for our regular everyday Toyotas & Hondas.. I learnt this lesson the hard way.

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I guess it depends on individual tolerance for specific problems.

I can live with a little rust but engine and transmission wahala is a no go area for me. i wouldn't even know where to start with heavily sludged up motors, cracked pistons, or broken con rods. Or finding and paying for 10 pin, 11 pin and 27 pin replacement transmissions.

Having said that, chassis problems and cabin leaks are also problems I would avoid.

I do about 8k miles a year. Roughly 13,000 km.

OP. in my own case, taking my current car for instance, i bought it at 189000 KM... It's about a year and 6 months now, after everyday driving round the city to and from work, visiting some places and occasional travelling.. It is now 213500

That makes it about 24500KM that i have added

That is around 16,000KM for me a year.

An average Nigerian vehicle should be around 15000 to 30000KM a year.

temmym4:
OP. in my own case, taking my current car for instance, i bought it at 189000 KM... It's about a year and 6 months now, after everyday driving round the city to and from work, visiting some places and occasional travelling.. It is now 213500

That makes it about 24500KM that i have added

That is around 16,000KM for me a year.

An average Nigerian vehicle should be around 15000 to 30000KM a year.

This ia an average of 9k miles to 18k miles per year, this is too much for a Nigeria regular office worker except you run a transport company

VolvoS60:


^^^
This is the part I'll never understand.

My 7 year vehicle (moderate mileage, <65,000 km) has dents, scratches, and some "tribal marks" from commercial buses (Danfo ) etc. I drive in Lagos after all and these scars are more or less rites of passage for most cars. But the mechanicals are sound. I can vouch for the powertrain, suspension, cooling system and electricals of my vehicle anyday, anytime. Yet I have been told that buyers will seriously mark down the value of the car (if I decide to sell) because of 'body' wear and tear.

I remember a Mercedes Benz ML 350 I saw at my local mechanic's place some years ago. Spotless black metallic paint and a blemish free, tan leather interior. This car really looked like it had just rolled out of the factory - until the mechanic opened the bonnet for an oil change. Apparently, the owner wasn't big on maintenance and had been skipping routine servicing. When the mechanic brought out the oil filter, it was an unrecognizable mess - completely deformed and coated in thick black sludge . Of course, the engine was heavily sludged up and the mechanics were worried about what to do next. Carry out an engine flush and risk major mechanical damage? They eventually settled on a black oil flush - but not before warning the owner of what could potentially go wrong.

I asked about the car recently and the mechanic told me the owner had sold it. I honestly pity the buyer if he/she wasn't given full information and he/she made the purchase only because the body was 'good'. With what I saw, there's no way that car won't give serious problems down the line.

Summary: the body is important but the record of use and maintenance of the other parts (powertrain etc.) is even more important. Of what use is a good body when a car keeps breaking down?

I had same issue why try to sell my car late 2018, reason i didn't repaint is because i spent considerable amount of money to ensure the car engine and suspensions are in good condition. I don't want to get disappointed while on Lagos-Ibadan expressway or Madam having issue on her way to work.

When i put the car up for sale people where pricing at rediculous amount when i understand the perfect state of the car engine, even though the body is rough.

Around Xmas period last year i decided to paint the car which cost me about 70k and after which i uploaded the pictures, Waow, the car pricing value went up with 450k.

VolvoS60:


^^^
I guess it depends on individual tolerance for specific problems.

I can live with a little rust but engine and transmission wahala is a no go area for me. i wouldn't even know where to start with heavily sludged up motors, cracked pistons, or broken con rods. Or finding and paying for 10 pin, 11 pin and 27 pin replacement transmissions.

Having said that, chassis problems and cabin leaks are also problems I would avoid.

Little rust no dey end for little rust oh

domack99:


This ia an average of 9k miles to 18k miles per year, this is too much for a Nigeria regular office worker except you run a transport company

U think everyone's workplace is at the back of their house? Not at all brother.

Some people drive as much as 60KM (and even more) a day to and from work. Ask some lagosians

Calculate that in a week... 300KM
In a month..... 1200KM
A year..... 14400KM

that is just for an office... Now include some extra outings during d weekends, unforseen journeys and probably occasional travelling.

Not everyone drives just 2KM a day.
Those types, i wonder why they wont just take a cab instead, but no, they want to own a car too. At the end of the day, they consider a car as liability.

temmym4:


U think everyone's workplace is at the back of their house? Not at all brother.

Some people drive as much as 60KM (and even more) a day to and from work. Ask some lagosians

Calculate that in a week... 300KM
In a month..... 1200KM
A year..... 14400KM

that is just for an office... Now include some extra outings during d weekends, unforseen journeys and probably occasional travelling.

Not everyone drives just 2KM a day.
Those types, i wonder why they wont just take a cab instead, but no, they want to own a car too. At the end of the day, they consider a car as liability.

That is why the topic says 'AVERAGE'. Most people don't have to travel that ling for work.

domack99:


This ia an average of 9k miles to 18k miles per year, this is too much for a Nigeria regular office worker except you run a transport company

SINCE JANUARY 10, 2019 DONE ABOUT 3000 MILES, AND I HAVE NOT STARTED TRAVELING YET

thebigkendo:


Little rust no dey end for little rust oh

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True

domack99:


I had same issue why try to sell my car late 2018, reason i didn't repaint is because i spent considerable amount of money to ensure the car engine and suspensions are in good condition. I don't want to get disappointed while on Lagos-Ibadan expressway or Madam having issue on her way to work.

When i put the car up for sale people where pricing at rediculous amount when i understand the perfect state of the car engine, even though the body is rough.

Around Xmas period last year i decided to paint the car which cost me about 70k and after which i uploaded the pictures, Waow, the car pricing value went up with 450k.

^^^
Exactly.

It costs money to get good motor oil, filters, coolant, pads, transmission fluid, brake fluid, etc. I would rather pour money into these than respraying every few years.

To avoid ridiculous bids I might just decide to repaint the car when ready to sell.

VolvoS60:


^^^
Exactly.

It costs money to get good motor oil, filters, coolant, pads, transmission fluid, brake fluid, etc. I would rather pour money into these than respraying every few years.

To avoid ridiculous bids I might just decide to repaint the car when ready to sell.

They will tell you its not first body oh

greenhulk:


That is why the topic says 'AVERAGE'. Most people don't have to travel that ling for work.

Actually i didnt deviate from the topic.

temmym4:


An average Nigerian vehicle should be around 15000 to 30000KM a year.

domack99:


This ia an average of 9k miles to 18k miles per year, this is too much for a Nigeria regular office worker except you run a transport company

I quoted and explained my own case as an instance, you made it sound as if only Transpot companies covers that kind of distance and i tried explaining to u that not everyone drives 2 Kilometers to work everyday.

Now back to the topic..
Nigerian cars includes Private and commercial vehicles..
*I believe u already know commercial vehicles cover a whole lot of distance even in the city and u know how many of dem are present in each state.
*Most private owners cover a reasonable distance and not just 1 or 2KM a day.

Putting these statistics together, i still stand by my word.. Distance covered by Nigerian vehicles a year on AVERAGE should be around 15,000 to 30,000KM a year.

thebigkendo:


They will tell you its not first body oh

^^^



All body na body...

thebigkendo:


They will tell you its not first body oh

What does that mean self?

domack99:


What does that mean self?

Means the vehicle has been painted outside the factory paint. You sometimes wonder the rationale behind that when 90 percent of Toks vehicles have been repainted.

As for the topic, I do an average of 15k miles yearly. The average Nigerian should do between 10-15k miles in a year.

rationalmind:


Means the vehicle has been painted outside the factory paint. You sometimes wonder the rationale behind that when 90 percent of Toks vehicles have been repainted.

As for the topic, I do an average of 15k miles yearly. The average Nigerian should do between 10-15k miles in a year.

This is really getting interesting, I actually thought Nigerians spend more hours in driving due to traffic not actually driving long distance per day but this seems to be untrue

Less than 20% of Nigerians whose cars are for private use cover 15000km yearly


Majority of us do short distances daily and barely covering 50km daily. If we want to travel a distance of 500 to 1000km we rather use commercial buses bc our roads are bad and is no fun driving very long distances

ogawisdom:
Less than 20% of Nigerians whose cases are for private use cover 15000km yearly


Majority of us do short distances daily and barely covering 50km daily. If we want to travel a distance of 500 to 1000km we rather use commercial buses bc our roads are bad and is no fun driving very long distances

This is my thought as well or even lesser

I've covered about 7,000km from Jan till date!

I cover roughly 80km daily, and I've travelled to and fro Redeemers twice!

if u ask me how ask baba G.... !

and this is real guys, not joking @ all

if I continue like this, I'll clock 20,000+km this year

PS this is not average.... most Nigerians will not try this....

Interesting thread.

Let me ask, what is the average (highest) mileage a car (both foreign and NAIJA used) should be have when purchasing for use in Nigeria?

tolajay:
Interesting thread.

Let me ask, what is the average (highest) mileage a car (both foreign and NAIJA used) should be have when purchasing for use in Nigeria?

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This depend on the country of origin for USA an average of 13000 miles per year is expected, 7000 miles for UK and 15000 miles for Canada.

So when you know your can origin, you can mutiply expected average by the numbers of years that will give you an idea of the usage.

Though car mileage play a good role in helping to place value on a car but does not guaranty that the car is in absolute good condition or bad condition, there are other factors that determine if a car is in good or bad shape, especially maintenance history

As for the Naija used car, that is the reason for this thread

tolajay:
Interesting thread.

Let me ask, what is the average (highest) mileage a car (both foreign and NAIJA used) should be have when purchasing for use in Nigeria?

Doesnt matter most for naija used because it can be rolled back n engine could have been replaced.

Maintenance and state of the vehicle matters most

ogawisdom:


Doesnt matter most for naija used because it can be rolled back n engine could have been replaced.

Maintenance and state of the vehicle matters most

Do people roll back Naija used car too, thought his is common for only Tokunbo