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schoolboij:
I'll rather not fight if I can't win and I'll put innocent lives on the line than fight and kill many innocent people then run away. At last, his cowardice took the better of him. That's selfishness and bad leadership quality.

That's the difference between the Igbos and the rest of you and that's why we are not one

We Igbos would rather fight and lose than to surrender without a fight like slaves. At least Ojukwu fought before running away. The rest of Southernern Nigeria surrendered to Gowon and his Northern cohorts without a fight and that makes them bigger cowards than the Ojukwu who fought

gidgiddy:
That's the difference between the Igbos and the rest of you and that's why we are not one

We Igbos would rather fight and lose than to surrender without a fight like slaves. At least Ojukwu fought before running away. The rest of Southernern Nigeria surrendered to Gowon and his Northern cohorts without a fight and that makes them bigger cowards than the Ojukwu who fought

Ojukwu used 3m igbos as cannon fodders for his ego. He protected his own families and ran away when the heat on. Is that not cowardice? Ogundipe knew he had no chance against the northerners in the army and his land will be the battlefield, he had to forgo his personal ambition and ego for the greater good. Today his land is the most developed and most prosperous in Nigeria while 50 years later igbos are still slaves in Nigeria and begging for freedom from Yorubas and hausas.

Yorubas can never be slaves in Nigeria when we determine the direction of Nigeria and we are the gateway to Nigeria. Mention anything good about Nigeria and in Nigeria, they all in the SW.

gidgiddy:
I can see that Gowon is sitting down with General Adeyinka Adebayo, Military Governor of the Western Region, and General David Ejoor, Military Governor of the Mid-West. Both Adebayo and Ejoor were senior to Gowon. So why was Gowon their Boss?

Because both Adebayo and Ejoor were southerners, while Gowon is a northerner.

You got it?

schoolboij:
Ojukwu used 3m igbos as cannon fodders for his ego. He protected his own families and ran away when the heat on. Is that not cowardice? Ogundipe knew he had no chance against the northerners in the army and his land will be the battlefield, he had to forgo his personal ambition and ego for the greater good. Today his land is the most developed and most prosperous in Nigeria while 50 years later igbos are still slaves in Nigeria and begging for freedom from Yorubas and hausas.

Yorubas can never be slaves in Nigeria when we determine the direction of Nigeria and we are the gateway to Nigeria. Mention anything good about Nigeria and in Nigeria, they all in the SW.

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schoolboij:
Ojukwu used 3m igbos as cannon fodders for his ego. He protected his own families and ran away when the heat on. Is that not cowardice? Ogundipe knew he had no chance against the northerners in the army and his land will be the battlefield, he had to forgo his personal ambition and ego for the greater good. Today his land is the most developed and most prosperous in Nigeria while 50 years later igbos are still slaves in Nigeria and begging for freedom from Yorubas and hausas.

Yorubas can never be slaves in Nigeria when we determine the direction of Nigeria and we are the gateway to Nigeria. Mention anything good about Nigeria and in Nigeria, they all in the SW.

May be that's the way Nigerians see it. But Igbos see it in a much different way. We are all different in our outlook on life. Igbos under Ojukwu saw Northernern domination as an affront and would not accept it the way others did and we fought for our freedom. We proudly fought for our freedom. We may have lost and many died, but there is no shame in fighting for freedom.


You people who embraced Northern slavery to avoid your land becoming a "battlefield" and openly boast of this act of cowardice, make me laugh. Fajuyi was slaughtered in Yoruba land and Ogundipe, who should have been head of state, was chased away. You people could do nothing.

Where is this prosperity and development you people talk about? Is it Lagos that became what it is as a result of being the capital of Nigeria for over 80 years? Outside Lagos, where can you boast if that is better than Igbo land?

You say you are not slaves but you have been begging the North for restructuring and control the resources of your own land since the end of the war.


It is the most honorable thing for a people to rise up and fight for their freedom and we make apologies for taking our destiny into our own hands and fighting for it under Ojukwu. We may have failed, but it is better to try and fail than to be you people who embraced slavery without a fight, out of fear .

EClassicgold:
keep short and learn nincompop

Keep Short?


How?


Idiotic swine u gat to explain this

Very humble man.

OGHENAOGIE:
that's a lie...murtala wanted secession for the north...it was d UK and US foreign rep who saw gowon a conservative Christian northerner as a better alternative to a radical murtala a Muslims northerner...gowon knew about the coup anyway as he was occupying a privilege position den in presidential villa Lagos...infact when Colonel Anthony madiebo came to inform ironsi about an impending coup...gowon and the Ig rubbish such when ironsi called them...40 days later ironsi would be killed with fajuyi in Ibadan...it's either some of u guys are historically ignorant or choose to distort facts to sway gullible minds...like I say go download or watch Real story of Nigeria by Jide...Peace...

Yes Mohammed wanted secession initially but fought against it later. The counter coup by Northern officers was d brainchild of Murtala Mohammed. He got so pissed when Gowon was selected to head d new govt that he plotted another coup with I.D Bisalla, Joseph Nanven Garba and co. Bisalla would later betray him and was implicated in Col. B.S Dimka's failed coup. Oga I suggest u read up, or better still listen to men who were veterans of the war of northern aggression.

Tomorrow when someone raises the fact that Ironsides Ironsi died at d behest of T.Y Danjuma and other northern murderers, you'd say it's distorted history.

gidgiddy:
Gowon was not chosen by consensus, he was chosen by Murtala Mohammed and other Northern coup plotters because he was the highest ranking Northerner in the Nigerian Army at the time. The seniority problem was an issue between Ojukwu and Gowon because Ojukwu was technically senior to Gowon, however, it was settled at Aburi where Ojukwu decided to recognise Gowon as head of state if Gowon kept to the Aburi agreement. Unfortunately, Gowon could not keep to the agreement

and what was the aburi agreement all about

wrong question.


quote author=gidgiddy post=77774410]I can see that Gowon is sitting down with General Adeyinka Adebayo, Military Governor of the Western Region, and General David Ejoor, Military Governor of the Mid-West. Both Adebayo and Ejoor were senior to Gowon. So why was Gowon their Boss?[/quote]

MetaPhysical:
Learn to speak with facts. Produce the official seniority list to back your claim.

You are obviously either a kid or an ignorant adult. The guy stated the facts but people like you who find it difficult to study will always be the loudest in the room with your ignorant opinions

frank202012:
why won't those kids misbehave.....
when they avoid there history like plaque.,..

why won't they misbehave...they've got elders who don't know the diff btw plaque and plague

OGHENAOGIE:
blame Britain they neva wanted their newly independent colony to break up before dier eyes...and that was why they infleunced gowon to be head of State...and after gowon was overthrown he was accepted in UK wer he studied up to PhD political science in university of Warwick

Sir, what would have been the case if the colony had broken up?

What would life be like now?

Neddyogu:
Yes Mohammed wanted secession initially but fought against it later. The counter coup by Northern officers was d brainchild of Murtala Mohammed. He got so pissed when Gowon was selected to head d new govt that he plotted another coup with I.D Bisalla, Joseph Nanven Garba and co. Bisalla would later betray him and was implicated in Col. B.S Dimka's failed coup. Oga I suggest u read up, or better still listen to men who were veterans of the war of northern aggression.

Tomorrow when someone raises the fact that Ironsides Ironsi died at d behest of T.Y Danjuma and other northern murderers, you'd say it's distorted history.

oga if dee is anyone to school u na me... I have read and done extensive research...ty danjuma was a key part of ironsi security detail...but let's not twist facts here and there...ironsi had through decree 34 turn Nigeria to a unitary state despite ojukwu warning...the Hausa Fulani officers felt d igbos who were doing well economically would take charge also politically and ironsi was so naive with hw he handled situations including not punishing the coup plotters...and favoring sm persons...of course those who took over didn't change such structure which is still our albatross til tomoro...just watch day real story of Nigeria and come back thanks

OGHENAOGIE:
oga if dee is anyone to school u na me... I have read and done extensive research...ty danjuma was a key part of ironsi security detail...but let's not twist facts here and there...ironsi had through decree 34 turn Nigeria to a unitary state despite ojukwu warning...the Hausa Fulani officers felt d igbos who were doing well economically would take charge also politically and ironsi was so naive with hw he handled situations including not punishing the coup plotters...and favoring sm persons...of course those who took over didn't change such structure which is still our albatross til tomoro...just watch day real story of Nigeria and come back thanks

Oga sorry to burst ur bubble, but u can't school me on the political and military history of Nigeria. Ironsides Ironsi introduced the unitary sys of govt with a strong Federal govt to the horror of his contemporaries. What is d situation today? Did those who killed him change anything? Yes because a majority of the officers who were d masterminds of the Jan 1966 mutiny were of eastern extraction, it was termed an 'Igbo coup', prompting mass murder of Igbo soldiers and civilians across the country.
Why couldn't Gowon, Maj. Hassan Katsina and co answer Col.Ojukwu when he asked why Gowon was head of Supreme Military Council when he was not the most senior officer of the Army during the Aburi peace accord in Ghana?
Why couldn't T. Y Danjuma account for his boss whose security was his primary assignment?
Oga if u don't know the facts, I suggest u keep mute and like I said, ask veterans of the war of northern aggression.

mrAMG2:
Sir, what would have been the case if the colony had broken up?

What would life be like now?

what would have been the case if nzeogwu and d other five majors refused destroyin the then civil rule...?? what if our then 1966 civil democracy was allowed to matured uninterrupted till date??

Neddyogu:
Oga sorry to burst ur bubble, but u can't school me on the political and military history of Nigeria. Ironsides Ironsi introduced the unitary sys of govt with a strong Federal govt to the horror of his contemporaries. What is d situation today? Did those who killed him change anything? Yes because a majority of the officers who were d masterminds of the Jan 1966 mutiny were of eastern extraction, it was termed an 'Igbo coup', prompting mass murder of Igbo soldiers and civilians across the country.
Why couldn't Gowon, Maj. Hassan Katsina and co answer Col.Ojukwu when he asked why Gowon was head of Supreme Military Council when he was not the most senior officer of the Army during the Aburi peace accord in Ghana?
Why couldn't T. Y Danjuma account for his boss whose security was his primary assignment?
Oga if u don't know the facts, I suggest u keep mute and like I said, ask veterans of the war of northern aggression.

you are ranting ignorant like a deluded igbo would do...yes gowon was not d senoir officer den but ogundipe d senior man refused to take over as d situation were not palatable enough...obviously in his view d army had become riotous...the foreign rep of US ND UK ensured Gowon a conservative xtian northerner took over to calm frail nerves...what happened afterwards is one our recent politicians should fix up...like I said go watch the real story of Nigeria by jide if u Choose to wallow in emotional ignorance...dats your issue good night...

stagger:
Gowon was chosen by consensus. Nigeria had no leader between July 29, 1966 and August 1, 1966. Three days.

Ojukwu was senior to Gowon and was irked by the decision. He could not see himself answering sir to his junior. That was partly why it was difficult for them to have reasonable talks over the violence that erupted in the North against Southerners (the pogrom). That was why the Ghanaian government decided to act as mediator by bringing them to the Aburi conference.

Ojukwu wasn't senior to Gowon, he joined the army a few years after Gowon was commissioned but citing the possession of a university degree, Ojukwu's commission was backdated but even at that, he wasn't exactly his senior, sort of like equals but with little separating the both. As a matter of fact, Lt. Col Alexander Madiebor , GOC of the biafran army joined the army the same day as Gowon and were commissioned together. He went on to serve under Ojukwu, his junior as GOC of the Biafran army after Lt. Col Hilary Njoku was unceremoniously removed.

OGHENAOGIE:
you are ranting ignorant like a deluded igbo would do...yes gowon was not d senoir officer den but ogundipe d senior man refused to take over as d situation were not palatable enough...obviously in his view d army had become riotous...the foreign rep of US ND UK ensured Gowon a conservative xtian northerner took over to calm frail nerves...what happened afterwards is one our recent politicians should fix up...like I said go watch the real story of Nigeria by jide if u Choose to wallow in emotional ignorance...dats your issue good night...

It is wrong to suggest that Ogundipe refused to take over. In fact, Ogundipe immediately summoned an emergency supreme ruling council meeting after the death of Ironsi was brought to his notice. Gowon attended the meeting and it was unanimously agreed that Gowon should go and meet Murtala Mohammed and his gang of coup plotters for negotiations. He was to asked for their demands and how to quickly bring the situation of things under control.

However, Gowon betrayed Ogundipe immediately he got to the Ikeja base of the coup plotters. Instead of negotiating truce with the plotters on behalf of the Ogundipe led supreme ruling council, he joined the plotters in their quest for North’s secession. Murtala who led the coup didn’t know what next to do so he just asked Gowon to take over being the most senior officer from the north in their negotiation with UK and US for secession.

schoolboij:
I have proven to you that Yorubas are not under any slavery. Everyone knows igbos are saves in Nigeria. If political killings of some Yorubas by military rulers is what you call slavery then I can't help your bigotry. Military leaders do not care about tribes, they Kill anybody on their way to holding on to power. Igbo officers killed Yorubas too. Northerners were also killed by military rulers. Yar'adua was killed by military leaders too. But igbos can not reason beyond their myopic tribalistic views.

If you understand the workings of democracy, you would know that majority carries the day. The SW alone can not achieve anything democratically alone without the rest of Nigeria agreeing. The same way the north can't achieve anything without the support of the south. This is beyond your shallow brain. We will achieve restructuring when our politicians stop paying lip service to it and lobby other political leaders. We can achieve restructuring by carrying the south and the NC along. But no one is serious about restructuring beyond the pages of newspaper. Can you tell me any politician that has discussed the issue of restructuring I'm the legislative Chambers? I thought you are educated. You are just a shallow brained ipon fanatic.

You still don't get it. You have no control of your land, you have no control of the resources on your land, you cant even touch the Bitumen in Ondo, yet you do not know you are a slave.

You are in a country where the core North, the NW and NE control 40% of the national assembly, which means that they can make and unmake any law that governs your life and region, but you don't know you are slave

You want restructuring but the core North has said no and they have the numerical strength at the national assembly to stop any restructuring agenda, but you do not know you are a slave

Ok

seunmsg:
It is wrong to suggest that Ogundipe refused to take over. In fact, Ogundipe immediately summoned an emergency supreme ruling council meeting after the death of Ironsi was brought to his notice. Gowon attended the meeting and it was unanimously agreed that Gowon should go and meet Murtala Mohammed and his gang of coup plotters for negotiations. He was to asked for their demands and how to quickly bring the situation of things under control.

However, Gowon betrayed Ogundipe immediately he got to the Ikeja base of the coup plotters. Instead of negotiating truce with the plotters on behalf of the Ogundipe led supreme ruling council, he joined the plotters in their quest for North’s secession. Murtala who led the coup didn’t know what next to do so he just asked Gowon to take over being the most senior officer from the north in their negotiation with UK and US for secession.

man go watch Real story of Nigeria by jide then we can talk...Ogundipe Neva wanted taking over not with how southern soldiers majorly Easterners were brutally massacred....let's present history the right way that way we can all learn...moreso it's error to those saying Ojukwu senior Gowon...even those who claim d ist coup was an igbo coup it's error since two Yoruba majors banjo and ademoyega who wrote why we struck participated in the coup...the others were majors nzeogwu a delta Hausa,while anuforo and ifeajuna were the igbos dee...

gidgiddy:
You still don't get it. You have no control of your land, you have no control of the resources on your land, you cant even touch the Bitumen in Ondo, yet you do not know you are a slave.

You are in a country where the core North, the NW and NE control 40% of the national assembly, which means that they can make and unmake any law that governs your life and region, but you don't know you are slave

You want restructuring but the core North has said no and they have the numerical strength at the national assembly to stop any restructuring agenda, but you do not know you are a slave

Ok

Just emotional outbursts with no substance. Typical of average ipob pig.

Tell me when restructuring has ever been tabled in the national assembly and the north say no. Tell me when the north has unilaterally passed a law in the national assembly without the nod of the south. If the NE and NW controls 40% of the national assembly then the SW control 20%, it's a fair share. I can't control my bitumen the same way the north can't control it's solid minerals.

You can't make sense because hatred has blinded your reasoning faculty. You are a slave because it's what you see yourself as. Your generations unborn will continue the slavery if they have the same hateful mindset as you.

OGHENAOGIE:
man go watch Real story of Nigeria by jide then we can talk...Ogundipe Neva wanted taking over not with how southern soldiers majorly Easterners were brutally massacred....let's present history the right way that way we can all learn...moreso it's error to those saying Ojukwu senior Gowon...even those who claim d ist coup was an igbo coup it's error since two Yoruba majors banjo and ademoyega who wrote why we struck participated in the coup...the others were majors nzeogwu a delta Hausa,while anuforo and ifeajuna were the igbos dee...

You are getting so many things mixed up. Ogundipe actually wanted to take over. He sent Gowon to negotiate with the coup plotters but Gowon betrayed him by taking over himself.

Banjo didn’t participate at all in the January 15, 1966 coup. He was one of the officers that supported Ironsi to take over after the original revolutionaries were crushed. He was arrested and locked up for entering Ironsi’s office with his service pistol. He was not arrested for participating in the January coup.

schoolboij:
Just emotional outbursts with no substance. Typical of average ipob pig.

Tell me when restructuring has ever been tabled in the national assembly and the north say no. Tell me when the north has unilaterally passed a law in the national assembly without the nod of the south. If the NE and NW controls 40% of the national assembly then the SW control 20%, it's a fair share. I can't control my bitumen the same way the north can't control it's solid minerals.

You can't make sense because hatred has blinded your reasoning faculty. You are a slave because it's what you see yourself as. Your generations unborn will continue the slavery if they have the same hateful mindset as you.

Spoken like a true Westerner who has zero sense of self determination. You people should remain in Nigeria and keep waiting until the North or East or South gives you permission to restructure and and control your own land and resources

We Igbos have passed that level. We are heading for our own independent country where we shall be masters of our own fate

gidgiddy:
Spoken like a true Westerner who has zero sense of self determination. You people should remain in Nigeria and keep waiting until the North or East or South gives you permission to restructure and and control your own land and resources

We Igbos have passed that level. We are heading for our own independent country where we shall be masters of our own fate

We are a huge stakeholders in the Nigerian project your forefathers believed in when Zik threatened to report Awo for treason.

Good luck on your quest to secede from Nigeria. You can't dictate to us when we need to leave Nigeria. Well cross that bridge when we get there.

Something tells me this country was cooler temperature-wise before the discovery of oil.
In this heat we're facing I doubt someone can feel so comfortable moving about in a suit.

So they were this local and yet were fighting for independence. It could had being more better if the white's are stil in control, na sky scrapper we for the see every where.
look at how this one is siting down on ordnary ground as if they want 2 dismantle food into their corrupt greedy stomach. Tell me Which knowledge dem get on how to control 9ja effectively at this point... WTF!!!