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Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by resosdigital(m): 12:41pm On May 04, 2019 |
Principles developed by who and where? Tested, validated and universally accepted by who and where? Look at Amazon- started as a book selling and lending app but now is a full fledged ecommerce app. But not just that though, you have amazon prime cast TV incorporated, amzon drive, Amazon go, merch by Amazon, Amazon art etc. Why didn't amzon go out of business because they shifted from their reason of existence. Or why did users embrace the new features and additions even if they were not book related. Think jumia. Now, jumia pay, jumia food, jumia travel and so. I still maintain my stand that it is still down to the developer and company. After all the app is yours, you could integrate any features you want without having to worry about any principles. And by the way, the fact that we share different opinions on this matter, doesnt make one smarter than the other. makavele: 1 Like |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by resosdigital(m): 12:43pm On May 04, 2019 |
makavele:You miss the point bro. You drop a screenshot with literally everything blurred out. Drop the links to the repo then I will begin to shiver. |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by makavele: 12:52pm On May 04, 2019 |
resosdigital: They are blurred out; because they are private and not for consumption on Nairaland. Heck; you can even see the padlock symbol on some. You don't figure if an employer asked me for one; I would send it blurred like that, right? On a lighter note, if you are in dire need of shivering; put your air conditioning unit on full blast; and stay in front of it bare-chested. On a serious note; if you want to see them; I'd oblige you, Send me a PM . . we can do a private video call and screen sharing via skype and get to discuss this and many other things; vice versa. Perhaps; drink beer too; sometimes, Who knows? |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by makavele: 1:01pm On May 04, 2019 |
resosdigital: You miss the point . . Taking Amazon as a case study. They started selling books. Great ! Then developed into a full-fledged online store for anything and everything (not limited to books)! Superb Well, still within the niche of commerce, you would agree. Then went further into delivering IaaS products? Superb . . But guess what? that is a whole different niche and was not incorporated into the buying and selling product. I am talking AWS et al. Okay, Jeff wasn't satisfied and added movies and entertainment. Guess what? Another whole different niche. Heck, they even have a website app dedicated to the entertainment: primevideo.com. Of course you could access prime from the regular website as a form of advertising what it does; watch a handful of content here and there but if you were serious about it, you'd get primevideo. So in summary, each product is carved from and independent niche. If AWS goes down, we'd still have the amazon shopping center. if the shopping site goes down, we'd still have AWS and primevideo and so on and so forth. Well you get the idea. But incorporating a payment system and social system into one single app. If the app goes down? |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by Nobody: 1:04pm On May 04, 2019 |
makavele:Goodbye toy soldier.... Won't give u the attention your biochemists wannabe programmer azz yearns for... I'd recommend you apply as a teacher in your daughters kindagathen.... that's the position suitable enough for talk more do less nitwits like u.... We're you're expected to talk, and actually do nuffing |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by makavele: 1:10pm On May 04, 2019 |
And now going back to your questions of principles developed by who or where? Who developed the Waterfall method, or the Agile methods? how about Scrum. It's already quite obvious you are self-taught. I really have no problem with that. But this is where "you" might have a problem. A customer needs a web app. After shipping, your web app consumes 956MB of RAM. And takes forever to search the DB records. Oh good Lord! Customer complains. A computer scientist will not even have this issue because before shipping, the apps are already tested and optimized for memory usage and performance, disk io rates; and bandwidth consumption; cpu usage etc. Well, no self taught tests for these things and that would even be an understatement. So back to bedlam. Customer complains. You go to google and search "my application is using too much memory" . . "how to transverse a DB quickly" etc and you get some results talking gibberish . . e.g. The big O notation, a pigeon vs an email in file transfer; use Recursion instead of endless for loops; use memcache; integrate redis; use quicksort blah blah blah And you start wondering what the heck has Big O got to do with an html/css application in php and bootstrap; and why must i spin up Redis for this simple laravel application; when I have mysql or sqlite? what the f*k is quicksort? i could just do a "db connect" and "for each" the living daylight out of it. then you start googling again: "what is Big O" , "how to implement big O in PHP" . . . "how to implement Redis".... like seriously? And you get answers like "the world has moved on to non-relational databases" and you start googling again "differences between relational and non relational databases" And when you start to get brain fogged with all the information that don't even scratch the surface. You go back to the codes and start reducing your if else statements, or probably creating more nested loops and vice versa. You start refactoring by grouping together code blocks into functions and reducing lines of code blocks. And guess what? YOU DID NOTHING !!! And that, my friend, is the problem derived from a lack of understanding of principles. |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by makavele: 1:11pm On May 04, 2019 |
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Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by resosdigital(m): 1:26pm On May 04, 2019 |
makavele:You make a lot of points but all this have absolutely nothing to do with the question. A chat app that allows people to make payments. And for your information I am a computer science graduate from futo. So believe me when I say I dont make rookie mistakes. And about self taught developers, do you know Jeffery way of laracasts.com the official training site of laravel. Well, he is a college drop out and self taught programmer. Do your noun certificate has nothing to do with it. Come to think of it. If uber decides to incorporate a sort of on demand payment processing into their service, do you think anyone in this world will care about your principles. And you dont need a sermon to drive home your points. |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by makavele: 1:34pm On May 04, 2019 |
resosdigital: That response was not about the app; but your question of principles Congratulations: well you get the point ! A comp sci graduate who negates the use of principles? I want to believe otherwise !!! An app that allows a payment system . . I say Nay, you say Yay. At the end of the day, the app maker is pleased to do as he/she desires. And yes, I know Jeffery and a host of others. The problem is . . they learn in reverse. but over time, will become just as good as one with the core fundamentals or even better. As you could see in my analogy, the problem to our imaginary app was fixed in reverse; which poses a threat in commercial standards. |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by Nobody: 1:36pm On May 04, 2019 |
resosdigital:FUTO final year here |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by Nobody: 1:38pm On May 04, 2019 |
makavele:I guess you haven't heard of WeChat b4. What a man. Chai |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by makavele: 1:45pm On May 04, 2019 |
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Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by resosdigital(m): 2:15pm On May 04, 2019 |
makavele:You still dont get the point. The question about having an chat app that allows payment processing has absolutely nothing to do with programming. This type of decisions are not made by programmers but the marketers and directors. At the end it is not about programming principles but how marketable the app will be. Or do you think Amazon sat down with its developers to talk agile before deciding to incorporating any of their services |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by resosdigital(m): 2:20pm On May 04, 2019 |
And on the thought about self thought vs degree programmers. I believe this comparison is baseless as the comparison should be rather be about good vs bad programmers. |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by makavele: 2:30pm On May 04, 2019 |
resosdigital: Bros, please stop this . You are cracking me up real good here. Let me repeat myself. That post was more of a digression. Well I get you point. So let that one rest. I don't know what methodology amazon uses; but methodology isn't something that is written on a whiteboard and decided upon prior to making decisions. Nobody says "hey, lets build a new integration?" shall we use agile, or otherwise? or which TDD shall we employ? Hahaha That statement alone shows you don't even understand what I was saying all long; more like it's kinda beyond your scope Your perhaps know the Google definition of it; but not the practical implementation of it. You would only when you work where it is being practiced. And I say that politely, please don't take it as an insult. |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by makavele: 2:31pm On May 04, 2019 |
resosdigital: I actually took this same stand; I considered it baseless, I didn't comment about it.. But with the way bad programmers are springing up every nano second especially on Nairaland; I might just go along with that guy that says programmers needs to be regulated by a board kinda. At least, in Nigeria; for now ! |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by Nobody: 2:41pm On May 04, 2019 |
makavele:I can bet my balls you wouldn't be on the list of programmers if a regulated body was achieved.... |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by makavele: 2:47pm On May 04, 2019 |
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Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by resosdigital(m): 3:38pm On May 04, 2019 |
makavele:You were the one who went off track. Someone suggested that he integrate a payment processing into his app. This is a marketing advice and discussion as the approach and technical side of this were never mentioned. Only for you to say that it was against a programming principle. What is the name of the principle and who propounded it if I may. Or better still tell me how the above suggestion is related to big o and agile and redis? |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by makavele: 3:47pm On May 04, 2019 |
resosdigital: If you choose to live in self-denial, my friend, it's your choice. I wasn't having high expectations; anyway. You win; I am done !!! |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by resosdigital(m): 3:53pm On May 04, 2019 |
makavele: There is nothing like self denial. The question of whether a payment processor should be integrated into the chat app is for marketers. Programmers would only come in when the question how? Is asked. |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by makavele: 3:56pm On May 04, 2019 |
resosdigital: And I gave an appropriate response. When I delved into core programming; it was a digression meant for you and not the app creator. and I made that clear multiple times. Cheers. p.s.: this is a programming board; not the Business one . . . Based on your suggestion; he shouldn't have posted such a question here. |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by Youngboss4you: 8:40pm On May 04, 2019 |
Just look at us africans! people that are supposed come together and think of something innovative, just look at how you guys are here insulting each other and boasting of yourselves.. Is this how we going to grow?? is this how we are planning to meet up with world standard by 2030? we should stop this shit and drop our pride by the side and face the real challenges, put heads together and solve real problems, we cant know it all. Really i dont expect this from us. Lets think matured. My one pound. |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by resosdigital(m): 7:15pm On May 21, 2019 |
makavele: WhatsApp set to fully integrate payment feature into their chat app after successful trials in India. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/samshead/2019/05/08/facebook-plans-to-build-new-whatsapp-payments-feature-in-london/amp/ Over to you oga and your principles of programming |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by Nobody: 4:31am On May 22, 2019 |
makavele:Agbero mentioning core programming... What do you even know about core programming... With your village class resume |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by makavele: 4:57am On May 22, 2019 |
Nene iz a girl |
Re: Chatme, A Chat Messenger Application Develop By Nigerian Programmer by aalphamuzammil: 3:14pm On Jun 01, 2021 |
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