₦airaland Forum

Sanusi is not even the rightful heir to the throne !!! he was only enthroned to despise Jonathan then but today Karma has come full circle

oluwaseyi000:
Even though I don't subscribe to the victimization of traditional rulers, but truth is this traditional rulers are adding almost nothing to the economy and betterment of the common man.

They never bring foreign investment, never think of supporting tech, during communal crises you will never see them, they are mostly dummy heads who feel entitled, they are mostly there for figure head and showmanship, I won't mind if they are completely scraped.

Quote me to state at least 3 major things your your home town/village king has done in the past five year to better you or your community

my village head was able to lobby for a bridge,an access road,two transformer and 192 poles of solar powered street light to my community.
a place that was abandoned for more than 50years because we had nobody in government..
he did all this within a span of 3yrs.

oluwaseyi000:
Even though I don't subscribe to the victimization of traditional rulers, but truth is this traditional rulers are adding almost nothing to the economy and betterment of the common man.

They never bring foreign investment, never think of supporting tech, during communal crises you will never see them, they are mostly dummy heads who feel entitled, they are mostly there for figure head and showmanship, I won't mind if they are completely scraped.

Quote me to state at least 3 major things your your home town/village king has done in the past five year to better you or your community

I agree, lets scrape all of our traditions & customs so we can totally adopt d white man democratic system. This will help us spend less on senators, reps & governor's. it will wipe out corruption & make naija a heaven where its people dont know who they are but only what the west said they are.


People like you will even sell ur village to foreigners if they gave you money. Tufikwa

oluwaseyi000:
Even though I don't subscribe to the victimization of traditional rulers, but truth is this traditional rulers are adding almost nothing to the economy and betterment of the common man.

They never bring foreign investment, never think of supporting tech, during communal crises you will never see them, they are mostly dummy heads who feel entitled, they are mostly there for figure head and showmanship, I won't mind if they are completely scraped.

Quote me to state at least 3 major things your your home town/village king has done in the past five year to better you or your community

Oga read to understand

That's what Shehu Sani is complaining about

He said the traditional rulers are not protected by the Constitution..that they are not giving enough rights to do anything

Which is why state governors tend to turn them to their play toy

Nbote:
See who's talking... He sat back and watched as ElRufai connived to make southern Kaduna into a forced Emirates which is what has led to d cleansing of Kajurus presently

Like what should he have done??

Pick up weapons and fight a war with El rufai

He is a senator...he's only power is his words in the Senate assembly...read up the Constitution

Atleast we all know he spoke against El rufai...but what more could he do when El rufai had the full backing of the government of the day

Jiang:
I agree, lets scrape all of our traditions & customs so we can totally adopt d white man democratic system. This will help us spend less on senators, reps & governor's. it will wipe out corruption & make naija a heaven where its people dont know who they are but only what the west said they are.


People like you will even sell ur village to foreigners if they gave you money. Tufikwa

Savagery

Don't mind kids of nowadays

ibietela2:
So we should destroy the tradition and get rid of the kings? Something that has been in existence for YEARS.

So the Queen of England or Emperor of Japan should be scrapped?

Remember those you mention are useful to the community they govern. Can you compare any State/City in Japan/England; in terms of development to Kano as a whole... Think well, analyse your points before you spew out trash next time..

Nbote:
See who's talking... He sat back and watched as ElRufai connived to make southern Kaduna into a forced Emirates which is what has led to d cleansing of Kajurus presently

he has always opposed ElRufai. accept you've not been following Shehu sani.

MobilityExpress:
Imagine someone eating N6 billion he didn't work for, state funds that should go to developing the state and providing amenities for the people, one person swallowed it in the name of traditional ruler. Those guys are crooks. I support Ganduje. And more so, other state governors should follow suit and curb the massive corruption going on within these traditional institutions.

my brother, don't believe everything you read.

NoSidonLook:
Oga read to understand

That's what Shehu Sani is complaining about

He said the traditional rulers are not protected by the Constitution..that they are not giving enough rights to do anything

Which is why state governors tend to turn them to their play toy

Those(Governors, Lawmakers) that has the constitutional rights to do everything, what have they done... He claim not to have constitutional right but has the corruption right to gulp #6bn and some other money we might not be aware of, you "some" keep supporting people that has zero interest for you...

ibietela2:
So we should destroy the tradition and get rid of the kings? Something that has been in existence for YEARS.

So the Queen of England or Emperor of Japan should be scrapped?

You even said for years. infact it has been in existence since the guy was still swimming in his daddy's nutsack and even before the colonization.

Abortedfetus:
my village head was able to lobby for a bridge,an access road,two transformer and 192 poles of solar powered street light to my community.
a place that was abandoned for more than 50years because we had nobody in government..
he did all this within a span of 3yrs.

This is commendable of him... We need leaders like him and not just figure head fighting for their pocket...

Itzurboi:
Remember those you mention are useful to the community they govern. Can you compare any State/City in Japan/England; in terms of development to Kano as a whole... Think well, analyse your points before you spew out trash next time..

And they got to that point immediately?

Banter1:
You even said for years. infact it has been in existence since the guy was still swimming in his daddy's nutsack and even before the colonization.

Hehehehehehehehehehe
Lol

Ganduje, Ajimobi's inlaw. Birds of a feather.
This is wat Ajimobi did that ruined him, Ganduje didn't learn from his inlaw's mistake. He's gonna regret it. Let me not say more than this before [b][/b] comes for my head. He/she doesn't think twice when it comes to APC matter whether right or wrong.

Banter1:
You even said for years. infact it has been in existence since the guy was still swimming in his daddy's nutsack and even before the colonization.

The problem we have is not is not existing protocol but people like you that fails to see any need to improve the protocol... analogue system existed, there was need to improve the welfare of things which brought about digital world... you "some" can't be crude,archaic all your life in name of politics and expect enlightened minds to keep mute and watch things go nut.

escodotman:
Umar Ganduje that he himself should in prison in a country where rule of law is truly upheld and not only for the members of the opposition. The same Umar Ganduje is trying cut Lamido Sanusi to size. Nigeria!

The problem is still with the constitution that gave him immunity. He cant be in prison until he is out of office of the governor.

oluwaseyi000:
Even though I don't subscribe to the victimization of traditional rulers, but truth is this traditional rulers are adding almost nothing to the economy and betterment of the common man.

They never bring foreign investment, never think of supporting tech, during communal crises you will never see them, they are mostly dummy heads who feel entitled, they are mostly there for figure head and showmanship, I won't mind if they are completely scraped.

Quote me to state at least 3 major things your your home town/village king has done in the past five year to better you or your community

And hypocrite like will gladly lie on the ground for the Queen of England to use as foot mat

Well it might happen in other states...no Gov can try such with Oba of Benin and live to tell the tales. Navy Capt. Onyeregbulem attempted that with Oba Erediauwa by purportedly removing him as chairman of Edo state council of chiefs, and the consequence were dastardly. little did he knew that the Benin Monarchy was different from that obtainable in other part of Nigeria. His father and him paid the ultimate price....

oluwaseyi000:
Even though I don't subscribe to the victimization of traditional rulers, but truth is this traditional rulers are adding almost nothing to the economy and betterment of the common man.

They never bring foreign investment, never think of supporting tech, during communal crises you will never see them, they are mostly dummy heads who feel entitled, they are mostly there for figure head and showmanship, I won't mind if they are completely scraped.

Quote me to state at least 3 major things your your home town/village king has done in the past five year to better you or your community

The era of traditional rulers have passed. Let them strength the local government chairmen and disperse them

We simply have a faulty constitution. Gandollar shud be in jail by now with all he has done.

He cannot disorganize Kano because of his greed and corrupt agenda. All this stupidity will be reversed.

Traditional rulers who carry themselves well have nothing to worry about. In fact they are revered. Genuinely.

They have traditional roles in their domains. Like settling inheritance, family, community and local issues better than any law courts can.

Those monarchs too busy at home d000oing the above are not seen at birthday parties, visiting celebrities in their Lekki homes or seen in every gathering, of them detractors say they are too traditional, stay too much in their Palace, blah blah blah.
Hugging limelight by travelling all about is good. But how much time have you to attend to the traditional roles in your domain. It is their acceptance that made you king to begin with.

The constitution gives them the job of being custodians of tradition and culture. They should focus on those.

Just like average humans, monarchs who meddle too much and pokenose into politics, will always get served badly.

Rubbish,
Traditional Rulers is a dated backward culture, it should be replaced by democratically elected mayors!

Abortedfetus:
my village head was able to lobby for a bridge,an access road,two transformer and 192 poles of solar powered street light to my community.
a place that was abandoned for more than 50years because we had nobody in government..
he did all this within a span of 3yrs.

don't mind him! alot of the governors in nigeria are not adding anything to Nigeria, should we scrap the office of the governor?

Lagosfinder:
The traditional leaders are suppose to be the fourth arm of government

Lord forbid!

Un-elected and un-accountable traditional rulers should have no formal or constitutional role in a DEMOCRATIC nation (or at least a nation with aspirations of genuine democracy). While I duly recognize the CULTURAL relevance of traditional rulers and institutions in local communities and ethnic groups, they should be restricted solely to informal cultural roles and solely funded and/or supported by such communities/groups, rather than by governments using public funds that should be better expended in paying salary arrears, pensions, and/or fixing schools and hospitals.

vacanci:
The problem is still with the constitution that gave him immunity. He cant be in prison until he is out of office of the governor.

The Kano problem is less the Constitution and more the corrupt state judiciary that stopped investigation by the State House of Assembly...
For even though it provides immunity from criminal prosecution, the Constitution gets around that by providing for removal by impeachment.
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Abortedfetus:
my village head was able to lobby for a bridge,an access road,two transformer and 192 poles of solar powered street light to my community.
a place that was abandoned for more than 50years because we had nobody in government..
he did all this within a span of 3yrs.

Bully for your village, but what happens if (Lord forbid) dude suffers a heart attack tomorrow?

There's a reason that the Constitution provides for ELECTED and ACCOUNTABLE representative government (and offices) at all levels, which should CERTAINTY, TRANSPARENCY and ACCOUNTABILITY regardless of the personal qualities of the individual presently holding each office. Instead of simply creating more offices and needlessly increasing the cost of governance and the attendant burden on taxpayers (the handful that exist, that is), we should make sure that the existing governmental institutions actually work - including holding officeholders to account! >

ibietela2:
So we should destroy the tradition and get rid of the kings? Something that has been in existence for YEARS.

So the Queen of England or Emperor of Japan should be scrapped?

Jiang:
I agree, lets scrape all of our traditions & customs so we can totally adopt d white man democratic system. This will help us spend less on senators, reps & governor's. it will wipe out corruption & make naija a heaven where its people dont know who they are but only what the west said they are.

People like you will even sell ur village to foreigners if they gave you money. Tufikwa

Traditions and even "culture" itself is not static but is constantly changing and evolving (to match or even catalyze changing circumstances and present realities). Accordingly British and Japanese royalty (or traditional leadership) has VASTLY EVOLVED from absolute monarchies to mere constitutional figureheads, and in the former they have even changed the culture and tradition of patriarchal hierarchy and inheritance, while the former has loosened the prohibition against marriage to so-called commoners (even though it still comes with consequences). Many of the present day's most advanced democracies were absolute monarchies for centuries before democratic enlightenment caught up with them, so let's not be PRISONERS of our so-called culture and traditions. After all, there was a time that tradition dictated killing/abandoning twins in parts of this country. In a 21st century democratic nation, un-elected traditional rulers should be relegated from prominent political roles.
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marvin906:
I don't understand why the indigenes of Kano are just folding their hands to this madness this is as an attack on their culture even if sanusi power is deminished he's still going to be the most powerful monarch in kano

You dont know what they know so mind your business