However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

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If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.’ If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)


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When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

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When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

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Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

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Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

I want to believe in my own opinion, you are reading the bible upside down

HsLBroker:
I want to believe in my own opinion, you are reading the bible upside down

Explain

Heathen777:


Explain

Do you want to learn or argue?

Bush atheist who do not think that bible was written at the time when human slavery was prevalent in most parts of the world

Heathen777:

Explain

explain what? Are these the only thing you see in the bible

Heathen777:
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

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If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.’ If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)


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When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

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When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

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Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

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Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

So if a slave marry in his master's house, the slave's wife kpekus belongs to the master.

Today your master can mean someone you work for BTW I don't even understand the ops problems

chiommy123:
Today your master can mean someone you work for BTW I don't even understand the ops problems

You think so? but someone you work with doesn't claim your wife and children even if you married when you are working for him.

Op dis your translation i weak o.

Funaki:


You think so? but someone you work with doesn't claim your wife and children even if you married when you are working for him.

check the bible passages he quotated you'll understand difference BTW the old and new

The Bible is perfect. Jesus is The Way, The Truth and The Life.

HsLBroker:
I want to believe in my own opinion, you are reading the bible upside down

There's a reason I've never heard any pastor read the verses provided by OP during their sermons and I'm almost certain you haven't too. Most (read:all) preachers pretend these verses don't exist so it comes as a shock to most Christians when they see these quoted verses then accuse the quoters of reading the bible "upside down" as a way to deal with the shock

Redoil:
explain what? Are these the only thing you see in the bible

what!

paxonel:
Bush atheist who do not think that bible was written at the time when human slavery was prevalent in most parts of the world

Shouldn't the morality given by the supposed creator of the universe, who's described by his die hard believers to be the epitome of morality be better than the "Prevalent" morality of the world? does this mean god's morality is given/controlled by humans instead of the other way around?

Funaki:


You think so? but someone you work with doesn't claim your wife and children even if you married when you are working for him.

thank you!

paxonel:
Bush atheist who do not think that bible was written at the time when human slavery was prevalent in most parts of the world

So the biblical moral standard is subjected to the moral standard of the period it was written. So why is the book still relevant today?

paxonel:
Bush atheist who do not think that bible was written at the time when human slavery was prevalent in most parts of the world

So your zombie God decided that slavery is acceptable while eating crayfish is an abomination. LMAO!

hopefulLandlord:


Shouldn't the morality given by the supposed creator of the universe, who's described by his die hard believers to be the epitome of morality be better than the "Prevalent" morality of the world? does this mean god's morality is given/controlled by humans instead of the other way around?

I had the same argument sometimes ago. Men see something wrong with slavery, but God never did, and yet you still call God the epitome of morality.

LordReed:


So your zombie God decided that slavery is acceptable while eating crayfish is an abomination. LMAO!

when i say some of you have mental problem, this is a clear confirmation

Now, dont quote me again!
I dont have time for mad people, go check yourself.

Atheists were suppose to be intelligent, you are not one

jesmond3945:
Op dis your translation i weak o.

how?

TVSA:


So the biblical moral standard is subjected to the moral standard of the period it was written. So why is the book still relevant today?

you dont get it.
The moral standard of the period is never biblical moral standard. The biblical moral standard is not subjected to the standard of the period in anyway.

Rather, the bible is only pointing out how moral standards used to be in those days.
When we read it today, they are never something we should embibe, but learn from it and calve out a better moral standard for this generation .

Ofcourse history books are still relevant inspite whether the stories may be primitive or not, they are for us to learn

paxonel:
when i say some of you have mental problem, this is a clear confirmation

how?

Now, dont quote me again!
I dont have time for mad people, go check yourself.

Atheists were suppose to be intelligent, you are not one

You've danced around and insulted him all without countering what he said. this is an evasive action garnished with ad hominems

hopefulLandlord:


Shouldn't the morality given by the supposed creator of the universe, who's described by his die hard believers to be the epitome of morality be better than the "Prevalent" morality of the world? does this mean god's morality is given/controlled by humans instead of the other way around?

we have read that God gave moses the 10 commandments which summarizes LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF!
That is Gods morality.

I dont see any correlation between that with humans enslaving fellow humans.

hopefulLandlord:

You've danced around and insulted him all without countering what he said. this is an evasive action garnished with ad hominems

i have insulted him because he is saying my God is zombie without ending his argument with premises to show that he is actually zombie

paxonel:
i have insulted him because he is saying my God is zombie without ending his argument with premises to show that he is actually zombie

I think zombie there means fool. he thinks your god is a fool for allowing slavery while banning eating of shellfishes

paxonel:
you dont get it.
The moral standard of the period is never biblical moral standard. The biblical moral standard is not subjected to the standard of the period in anyway.

Rather, the bible is only pointing out how moral standards used to be in those days.
When we read it today, they are never something we should embibe, but learn from it and calve out a better moral standard for this generation .

Ofcourse history books are still relevant inspite whether the stories may be primitive or not, they are for us to learn

So Moses was lying when he said God told him all those stuffs he told the Israelites?

And how do we know the right instructions to follow and the ones we shouldn't. Is the bible not supposed to be the final authority for a Christian?

hopefulLandlord:


I think zombie there means fool. he thinks your god is a fool for allowing slavery while banning eating of shellfishes

if that is what God did then he was right calling him fool or zombie.
But he did not do that, i am explaining that God did not do that but he will never want to understand.
Why?
Because he want to remain in that state where he keeps calling God zombie.

TVSA:


So Moses was lying when he said God told him all those stuffs he told the Israelites?

Hello!
Those stuffs or whatever were never from God.
They were already developed traditions of the jews developed by their forefathers and they were very determined to keep their traditions(bad or good) and God who maintains free will was not ready to force them do otherwise.
But when the consequences of keeping wrong traditions comes they will suffer it. That is life for you

And how do we know the right instructions to follow and the ones we shouldn't. Is the bible not supposed to be the final authority for a Christian?

the final authority is LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF.
The bible is just a book containing history

paxonel:
Hello!
Those stuffs or whatever were never from God.
They were already developed traditions of the jews developed by their forefathers and they were very determined to keep their traditions(bad or good) and God who maintains free will was not ready to force them do otherwise.
But when the consequences of keeping wrong traditions comes they will suffer it. That is life for you
the final authority is LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF.
The bible is just a book containing history

So you're admitting that some things the prophets recorded as the words of God were never from God. You aren't one of the conventional Christians on nairaland.

TVSA:


So you're admitting that some things the prophets recorded as the words of God were never from God. You aren't one of the conventional Christians on nairaland.

Exactly!
I am not one the conventional christians, i say things the way it is.

But please you people should not be hard on christians on nairaland for their ignorance

You know, we were all christians because our parents were christians, and a lot of us did not bother to study further