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Once Saved, Forever Saved- Wrong And Unscriptural 2 by pressplay411(op): 10:48pm On May 24, 2019
About Sin And Grace

Hebrews 10:26-39
For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?

For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.”
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

But recall the former days in which, after you were illuminated, you endured a great struggle with sufferings: partly while you were made a spectacle both by reproaches and tribulations, and partly while you became companions of those who were so treated; for you had compassion on me in my chains, and joyfully accepted the plundering of your goods, knowing that you have a better and an enduring possession for yourselves in heaven.

Therefore do not cast away your confidence, which has great reward. For you have need of endurance, so that after you have done the will of God, you may receive the promise:

“For yet a little while,
And He who is coming will come and will not tarry.
Now the just shall live by faith;
But if anyone draws back,
My soul has no pleasure in him.”

But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.
Re: Once Saved, Forever Saved- Wrong And Unscriptural 2 by paxonel(m): 1:42am On May 25, 2019
Saved from what?

Is it saved from the consequences of the sin we commit or saved from going to hell for not believing in christ?

Lets come from there
Re: Once Saved, Forever Saved- Wrong And Unscriptural 2 by pressplay411(op): 4:06am On May 25, 2019
paxonel:
Saved from what?

Is it saved from the consequences of the sin we commit or saved from going to hell for not believing in christ?

Lets come from there
Both especially hell.
Re: Once Saved, Forever Saved- Wrong And Unscriptural 2 by Nobody: 5:39am On May 25, 2019
God's grace is not sufficient for the wicked and the sinner that continues in sin and refuses to repent from it.

That's why hell is brimming with souls because despite that God so the world that He gave His only begotten Son to save the world - God's Grace - that whosoever believe in Him - man's repentance/obedience - shall not perish but have everlasting life.

But whosever does believe in Him - man's unrepentance/disobedience - despite that God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son to save the world - God's grace - shall be condemned.

And hence there are so many people including Christians in hell and many yet trouping in there, because God's grace is not sufficient for the wicked/sinners/disobedient but for the righteous and sinners who truly repent.
Re: Once Saved, Forever Saved- Wrong And Unscriptural 2 by pressplay411(op): 8:16am On May 25, 2019
jesusjnr:
God's grace is not sufficient for the wicked and the sinner that continues in sin and refuses to repent from it.

That's why hell is brimming with souls because despite that God so the world that He gave His only begotten Son to save the world - God's Grace - that whosoever believe in Him - man's repentance/obedience - shall not perish but have everlasting life.

But whosever does believe in Him - man's unrepentance/disobedience - despite that God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son to save the world - God's grace - shall be condemned.

And hence there are so many people including Christians in hell and many yet trouping in there, because God's grace is not sufficient for the wicked/sinners/disobedient but for the righteous and sinners who truly repent.
"My sheep hear my voice."
He that will be saved will hear the truth and repent, and not seek enticing words that soothe the ears.
Re: Once Saved, Forever Saved- Wrong And Unscriptural 2 by paxonel(m):
pressplay411:
Both especially hell.
in that case, you are mixing up things and there is no way you can arive at the truth by mixing up things .

See,

James 2:20 confirms that abraham was justified by works not just faith.

Romans 3:28 concludes that we are justified by faith and not by works

Looking at the two scriptures they seems contradictory isnt it?
The question about this scriptures is what i asked you.
What are we saved from? And you said it is both.

What justifies abraham(man) in james 2:20?
Ofcourse it is works.
What justifies man in Romans 3:28, ofcourse it is faith in christ.

Therefore it can never be both as you have said because faith in christ and works are two different things, faith justifies man into eternal life(salvation from death. Death is what we are saved from) while works do not justifies man into eternal but justifies him on this earth.

Think about it.
Re: Once Saved, Forever Saved- Wrong And Unscriptural 2 by pressplay411(op): 6:03pm On May 25, 2019
paxonel:
in that case, you are mixing up things and there is no way you can arive at the truth by mixing up things .

See,

James 2:20 confirms that abraham was justified by works not just faith.

Romans 3:28 concludes that we are justified by faith and not by works

Looking at the two scriptures they seems contradictory isnt it?
The question about this scriptures is what i asked you.
What are we saved from? And you said it is both.

What justifies abraham(man) in james 2:20?
Ofcourse it is works.
What justifies man in Romans 3:28, ofcourse it is faith in christ.

Therefore it can never be both as you have said because faith in christ and works are two different things, faith justifies man into eternal life(salvation from death. Death is what we are saved from) while works do not justifies man into eternal but justifies him on this earth.

Think about it.
God has always presented His Word/Scriptures before us, how we choose to interprete them is ours. Life and death are always before man.
When we contradict each other, one of us has chosen life, the other has chosen death.
May God give us discernment.
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