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solite3:
Jesus was speaking about natural birth and spiritual birth.
humans are flesh but when one is born of the spirit he becomes spirit in the sense that he is not subject to the prediction and laws of the natural man.

Since you're "not subject to the laws of the natural man," does 'solite3' defecate excrement, bathe ,sleep, eat and drink, have sex with your wife ?
You're not straight forward. You dey lie lie.

kikikikikiki !!!!!!

OkCornel:
I don't think the sly dig you made here is necessary.


Now let's face the reality on ground. Depression is real (and I believe JW members are not exempted as well). There are cases of believers (perhaps self professed believers) committing suicide...


My humble question is this, what is JW doing to counsel affected people out of depression? What are testimonies?

That's what I asked? Or do you only advise they endure?


I believe my questions are straight forward.

JWs are supportive of any JW who suffers depression. We collectively offer social/ emotional, spiritual and financially, if need be.
We encourage our members to seek professional/medicare too.
Pls visit jw.org, to see vast our publications or resource materials for helping depressed individuals.
Shalom

TATIME:
Walahi Talahi you're the most pitiable nuisance ever on this planet!
How can you be worried simply because someone { labelled as CULTIST by all your folks} say "your God and our God differs'?
Are you also a cultist according to the accusation of your friends who are labelling JWs as 'CULT'?
All your friend are saying JWs are worshiping their GB, so are you also a worshiper of the GB?
It is as simple as ABC, you can't be here and at the same time be there. You must either agree with your folks and stand clear from JWs or confront your folks that JWs are saying the truth.
Hellooooooooo there is no third option as in SITTING ON THE FENCE!
So STOP DECEIVING YOUR OWN SOUL!

I wonder o my brother!
The thread is titled 'Discussion on Doctrines between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witnesse'
Instead of CORRECTING the OP on such critical and offensive title, he came questioning the beliefs of JWs saying 'why this, why that' and by the end of the day commending all those criticizing JWs. Now simply acknowledging that all these friction is due to difference in the Gods of both sides he is unquestionably and stupidly exhibiting his buffoonery on social media, insisting it must be the same God!

Janosky:
Since you're "not subject to the laws of the natural man," does 'solite3' defecate excrement, bathe ,sleep, eat and drink, have sex with your wife ?

kikikikikiki !!!!!!

NO nah!
How can a spirit involve in all such NATURAL habits?

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johnw47:
Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last

Lying Pharisee quoting a FRAUD inserted into the KJV.
"I am alpha and omega".....
"which are in Asia" are dubious insertions NOT found in the best manuscripts".
Source: Revelation 1:11 (biblehub)

https://biblehub.com/revelation/1-11.htm

OkCornel:
Lucifer was not an arch-angel before he fell? Seriously? So Lucifer could be the most beautiful thing God created and so close to God, but yet was never an arch-angel?

Gabriel also is not an arch-angel?

Archangel meaning chief or leader of angels.
Where is your proof from the holy scriptures that Gabriel or "Lucifer" led other angels ?

johnw47 post :
hebrews 1 is clearly about Jesus not being a angel

concerning verse 9, verse 9 doesn't say "Father exalted Jesus above other angels", oh liar liar

Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Jesus fellows that he fellowshipped with is His apostles not angels, oh duh

Heb 2:16  For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

^^^ angels are not His fellows, but the seed of abraham-believing humans are


Jesus is God:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 

Jesus fellows can only be God(Father) who He is one with and christians who are one in Him

According to your FRAUD, Jesus is God because he is one with the Father , on that same reason, a Christian is God because he is one with the Father.
Fraudulent johnw lying Pharisee.

Moses was God to king pharaoh, by Jehovah's decree. Moses is not God, the Word was God, he is not God but a servant like Moses.
The Word ,Jesus is a servant of the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jakob and Moses. Acts 3:13.
Johnw lying Pharisee says "God" is a servant of himself.
Idiotic Pharisees.

***lying Johnw Pharisee, Jesus was exalted above angels right there in heaven where angels dwell. Heb1:1-6,13 says Jesus was exalted above angels to sit at God's right hand.
Lying Pharisee ,Jesus fellows ,peers, companions in the spirit realm are angels.
Stop lying and deceiving thyself.
* * Your Heb 2:16 quote is a FRAUD.
https://biblehub.com/hebrews/2-16.htm

"For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham's descendants"

Heb2:15,17 Jesus died& became " the high priest in service to God"
Johnw lying Pharisee says God died and became high priest in service of himself.
Kikikikikiki .....

Maximus69:
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There is no need for any further VIEWING Sir!

lying pharisee false jw max
you don't believe that the word-Jesus Christ has no beginning

but truly, God doesn't have a beginning:

Psa 90:2  Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.

and Jesus is God:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

there are many scriptures showing that the Word Jesus Christ is God
ask if you want me to post them again 

Jehovah:
Isa 44:6  Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus:
Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last


God-Jehovah Jesus-God and the Word, is the first and the last
He has no beginning, oh know nothing

TATIME:
Nar nar nar nar!
I'll prefer "Kilishi" as in that dry meat, i really enjoyed it much more than the lobster that day!

Php 3:18  For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 
Php 3:19  Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.

Janosky:
Lying Pharisee quoting a FRAUD inserted into the KJV.
"I am alpha and omega".....
"which are in Asia" are dubious insertions NOT found in the best manuscripts".
Source: Revelation 1:11 (biblehub)

https://biblehub.com/revelation/1-11.htm

oh duh lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

Jesus certinaly is the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, oh know nothing

Rev 1:17  And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last

Rev 2:8  And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

Rev 22:12  And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 
Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

johnw47:
oh duh lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

Jesus certinaly is the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, oh know nothing

Rev 1:17  And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last

Rev 2:8  And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

Rev 22:12  And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 
Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Lying Pharisee is Jehovah the offspring of David ?
The one referred to as alpha and omega in v13 is the offspring of David in Rev 22:16, he is NOT Jehovah the Most High God but a son of the Most high God.
Luke 1:30-33.
Jesus in Matt 28:18 confirmed Rev 22:13 to be true. Jehovah gave his son authority to bear "alpha and omega"

Janosky:
According to your FRAUD, Jesus is God because he is one with the Father , on that same reason, a Christian is God because he is one with the Father.
Fraudulent johnw lying Pharisee.

ha ha, oh twisting-lying pharisee false jw Janosky/OneJ
Jesus is God because God's word says so
a christian is not God because he is one with Jesus, that makes him a fellow of Jesus, mumu brain of no understanding

Janosky: Moses was God to king pharaoh, by Jehovah's decree. Moses is not God, the Word was God, he is not God but a servant like Moses.
The Word ,Jesus is a servant of the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jakob and Moses. Acts 3:13.
Johnw lying Pharisee says "God" is a servant of himself.
Idiotic Pharisees.

laugh, oh lying twister, moses was to be like God to pharoah:

Exo 7:1  Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet.

Janosky: the word was god, he is not God"

ha ha oh confused know nothing
truly the Word was God in the beginning and hence is God forever:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

acts 3:13 God(Father) glotifies His Son oh confused one:

Act 3:13  The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go. 
 

Janosky: ***lying Johnw Pharisee, Jesus was exalted above angels right there in heaven where angels dwell. Heb1:1-6,13 says Jesus was exalted above angels to sit at God's right hand.
Lying Pharisee ,Jesus fellows ,peers, companions in the spirit realm are angels.
Stop lying and deceiving thyself.
* * Your Heb 2:16 quote is a FRAUD.
https://biblehub.com/hebrews/2-16.htm

"For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham's descendants"

wow what confusion, of course:

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.


lying pharisee janosky/OneJ

what i said @bold, is certainly true, truly Jesus came for abraham's descendants not for the angels, ha ha, oh duh duh duh

Janosky: Heb2:15,17 Jesus died& became " the high priest in service to God"
Johnw lying Pharisee says God died and became high priest in service of himself.
Kikikikikiki .....

twister-liar false jw Janosky/OneJ

duh, no twisting liar, Jesus didn't  become High Priest in servive to Himself, but in service to His Father(God)

Janosky:
Lying Pharisee is Jehovah the offspring of David ?

copycay lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ
what i call you in truth you copycat back in lies, of course, smile

yes Jehovah in the flesh is the offspring of david
Jehovah is God-Father and the Word, john 1:1, oh such a duh duh

Janosky: The one referred to as alpha and omega in v13 is the offspring of David
in Rev 22:16, he is NOT Jehovah the Most High God but a son of the Most high God.
Luke 1:30-33.

Jesus the man is the Son of His Father
Jesus in the spirit is God the Word, oh duh, laughing, oh know nothing
all the duh's, but it's you, smile

Janosky: Jesus in Matt 28:18 confirmed Rev 22:13 to be true. Jehovah gave his son authority to bear "alpha and omega"

Mat 28:18  Then Jesus came to them and said, All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Rev 22:13  I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

Father God gave God the Word-Jesus Christ-the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End, all authority, excellent


1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

anyone honestly reading hebrews 1 without pre conceived false doctrines in mind
can clearly see hebrews 1 is showing that Jesus Christ is not an angel

however false jw's and others of satans mob, are blinded and can not see it, nor want to

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.






Heb 1:1  In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
 
Heb 1:2  but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.
 
Heb 1:3  The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
 
Heb 1:4  So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.
 
Heb 1:5  For to which of the angels did God ever say, "You are my Son; today I have become your Father"? Or again, "I will be his Father, and he will be my Son"? 

Heb 1:6  And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him." 

Heb 1:7  In speaking of the angels he says, "He makes his angels spirits, and his servants flames of fire."
 
Heb 1:8  But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
 
Heb 1:9  You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy."
 
Heb 1:10  He also says, "In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands.
 
Heb 1:11  They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment.
 
Heb 1:12  You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment they will be changed. But you remain the same, and your years will never end."
 
Heb 1:13  To which of the angels did God ever say, "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet"?
 
Heb 1:14  Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?

johnw47:
Php 3:18  For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 
Php 3:19  Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.

Sorry John, your intellect is just too low to those i do interact with, so if i ignore you don't be offended it's simply because you and i aren't mates even despite the fact that we're not on the same page!
So you'll find your mates on Nairaland who will have your time to interact[exchange words] with you, but as for me NO your power of reasoning is just too low to my level!
Go and PRACTICE what you're preaching, i'm 100% sure sincere people will notice the fruitage of God's holy spirit in the way and manner you apply those words you're quoting, and join you in whatever you do! Hebrew 13:7
God bless you!

Maximus69:
You are the one prolonging this Sir!
If we are not getting things right.
If we have manipulated issues.
If we are preaching heresy.
If we are misinterpreting the Bible.
Definitely we couldn't have been worshiping the same God with your folks who knew all of these!
Certainly then we're on the wrong. So why aren't your mind cleared regarding our case like that of Jesus who simply said of the Pharisees 'you are of your father the devil!' ? John 8:44
Must you worship the same God with everyone,despite all these disputes regarding doctrines?
Please you and your folks are surely worshiping God, but obviously there is this unimaginable gap between our God and your God!

"There is an unimaginable gap between our God and your God"


That exactly is my point. It makes it sound as though other believers are worshipping something different! And only JW is serving the one true God!


This is not true. A man led by the spirit of God can never be wrong and would always serve Him right. Not just the JW!

Again I'm pointing this out. Stop this "us versus them" mentality.

Janosky:
Archangel meaning chief or leader of angels.
Where is your proof from the holy scriptures that Gabriel or "Lucifer" led other angels ?

Please remind me who led one-third of the angels in heaven into rebellion against God.

Also remind me of any other Angel closer to God and higher in rank than Lucifer before he fell.

Thanks.

Janosky:
JWs are supportive of any JW who suffers depression. We collectively offer social/ emotional, spiritual and financially, if need be.
We encourage our members to seek professional/medicare too.
Pls visit jw.org, to see vast our publications or resource materials for helping depressed individuals.
Shalom

Thanks very much. Great to know this. Can the soft copies be shared on social media?

TATIME:
Walahi Talahi you're the most pitiable nuisance ever on this planet!
How can you be worried simply because someone { labelled as CULTIST by all your folks} say "your God and our God differs'?
Are you also a cultist according to the accusation of your friends who are labelling JWs as 'CULT'?
All your friend are saying JWs are worshiping their GB, so are you also a worshiper of the GB?
It is as simple as ABC, you can't be here and at the same time be there. You must either agree with your folks and stand clear from JWs or confront your folks that JWs are saying the truth.
Hellooooooooo there is no third option as in SITTING ON THE FENCE!
So STOP DECEIVING YOUR OWN SOUL!

I believe I was having a healthy discussion with your other JW brothers before this toxic comment of yours...


Calling me a pitiable nuisance for pointing out your "us versus them" mentality and claims that you are the only ones worshipping "Your God" is getting you all touchy?


I'm not sitting on the fence if you've been reading my comments on this thread.


Now answer these for yourself.


1) How is the God JW worship any different from the God other believers of the faith worships? That would clear up this "Our God vs Your God" maximus69 mentioned earlier.

2) A man led by the spirit of God is in the best position to worship Him. Is it only in JW you have believers led by the spirit of God?


If you cannot reply me without insults or jabs, don't bother mentioning me...

TATIME:
Sorry John, your intellect is just too low to those i do interact with, so if i ignore you don't be offended it's simply because you and i aren't mates even despite the fact that we're not on the same page!
So you'll find your mates on Nairaland who will have your time to interact[exchange words] with you, but as for me NO your power of reasoning is just too low to my level!
Go and PRACTICE what you're preaching, i'm 100% sure sincere people will notice the fruitage of God's holy spirit in the way and manner you apply those words you're quoting, and join you in whatever you do! Hebrew 13:7
God bless you!

garbage man false jw tatime

@bold:

Psa_40:4  Blessed is that man that maketh the LORD his trust, and respecteth not the proud, nor such as turn aside to lies

2Ti 3:2  People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 
2Ti 3:3  without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 
2Ti 3:4  treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 
2Ti 3:5  having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people. 
2Ti 3:6  They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 
2Ti 3:7  always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth.

^ fits you evil false jw's to a T


@underline, oh duh, you cannot answer much of what i say to you, but you are not ignoring me, you are replying right now even
with your puffed up false jw pride like your daddy the devil has

@blue, i of course reject the blessing of your god:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

OkCornel:
"There is an unimaginable gap between our God and your God"
That exactly is my point. It makes it sound as though other believers are worshipping something different! And only JW is serving the one true God!
This is not true. A man led by the spirit of God can never be wrong and would always serve Him right. Not just the JW!
Again I'm pointing this out. Stop this "us versus them" mentality.

There are lots of spirits[angels] who were with God in the beginning but now they're demons[fallen angels as in rebellious angels]. 2Peter 2:4, Jude 6
They still possess all the attributes of an angel, it's just there intentions and motives that changed. They're also dealing with people as SPIRITS from God[as if still working with God] whereas they will never support God's will. 2Corinthians 11:14
That is why you NEED TO TEST ALL SPIRITS[ 2Corinthians 13:5] by comparing the activities as in fruitage of what such men claiming they're led by God's spirit are producing with God's will.
I will not deceive you, the ONE and ONLY group where you can learn the truth about God's will is JW, that is why all other groups that Satan has gain power to influence them hates Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 10:22, John 17:14-16
So stop thinking it's just coincidental! WE ARE NOT WORSHIPING THE SAME GOD WITH THEM, you're to decide whether to be with us or them!
Don't be deceived it is certainly US VERSUS THEM!

Maximus69:
I wonder o my brother!
The thread is titled 'Discussion on Doctrines between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witnesse'
Instead of CORRECTING the OP on such critical and offensive title, he came questioning the beliefs of JWs saying 'why this, why that' and by the end of the day commending all those criticizing JWs. Now simply acknowledging that all these friction is due to difference in the Gods of both sides he is unquestionably and stupidly exhibiting his buffoonery on social media, insisting it must be the same God!

@maximus69, I'm surprised you've resorted to insults. I am in your words "stupidly exhibiting bufoonery on social media" for pointing out an "us versus them" mentality which is typically prevalent in Christendom?


1) How is the God JW worship any different from God other believers in Jesus worship?
What are the differences?

2) How have I commended everyone criticizing JW? Just my reservation on JW belief that Jesus and Angel Michael are one and same person led to this your conclusion?

3) How better do you suggest the topic of this thread be worded? A discussion between Shadeyinka and JW?

In the course of our interaction, I didn't know you were offended by the topic of the thread...why then should I be blamed for the OPs actions?

Maximus69:
There are lots of spirits[angels] who were with God in the beginning but now they're demons[fallen angels as in rebellious angels]. 2Peter 2:4, Jude 6
They still possess all the attributes of an angel, it's just there intentions and motives that changed. They're also dealing with people as SPIRITS from God[as if still working with God] whereas they will never support God's will. 2Corinthians 11:14
That is why you NEED TO TEST ALL SPIRITS[ 2Corinthians 13:5] by comparing the activities as in fruitage of what such men claiming they're led by God's spirit are producing with God's will.
I will not deceive you, the ONE and ONLY group where you can learn the truth about God's will is JW, that is why all other groups that Satan has gain power to influence them hates Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 10:22, John 17:14-16
So stop thinking it's just coincidental! WE ARE NOT WORSHIPING THE SAME GOD WITH THEM, you're to decide whether to be with us or them!
Don't be deceived it is certainly US VERSUS THEM!

lying pharisee false jw max

when people hate you it's not because of satan, it because they hate liars, duh, you know nothing oh blinded one

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Maximus69:
There are lots of spirits[angels] who were with God in the beginning but now they're demons[fallen angels as in rebellious angels]. 2Peter 2:4, Jude 6
They still possess all the attributes of an angel, it's just there intentions and motives that changed. They're also dealing with people as SPIRITS from God[as if still working with God] whereas they will never support God's will. 2Corinthians 11:14
That is why you NEED TO TEST ALL SPIRITS[ 2Corinthians 13:5] by comparing the activities as in fruitage of what such men claiming they're led by God's spirit are producing with God's will.
I will not deceive you, the ONE and ONLY group where you can learn the truth about God's will is JW, that is why all other groups that Satan has gain power to influence them hates Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 10:22, John 17:14-16
So stop thinking it's just coincidental! WE ARE NOT WORSHIPING THE SAME GOD WITH THEM, you're to decide whether to be with us or them!
Don't be deceived it is certainly US VERSUS THEM!

So if a believer who is not a JW sincerely prays through the name of Jesus to know and worship God better, is it a fallen angel that would deceive such a person eventually?


I recall Jesus saying in the scriptures that ask and ye shall receive. And the Heavenly Father is not wicked to give stone if you ask for bread nor serpent if you ask for fish...

How is the God JW worship any different from God other believers worship?

The division in the church is really nauseating.

johnw47:
lying pharisee false jw max

when people hate you it's not because of satan, it because they hate liars, duh, you know nothing oh blinded one

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

From my interactions here so far... I believe they're sincere enough to correct their errors, if they truly believe it's an error.


It's just like the monetary tithes and first fruit doctrines prevalent in the Pentecostal churches, some of them have realized the flaws in such and abandoned it.

OkCornel:
From my interactions here so far... I believe they're sincere enough to correct their errors, if they truly believe it's an error.


It's just like the monetary tithes and first fruit doctrines prevalent in the Pentecostal churches, some of them have realized the flaws in such and abandoned it.

you seem to be doing a good job

i prefer to just sometimes show up some of their lies

OkCornel:
I believe I was having a healthy discussion with your other JW brothers before this toxic comment of yours...


Calling me a pitiable nuisance for pointing out your "us versus them" mentality and claims that you are the only ones worshipping "Your God" is getting you all touchy?


I'm not sitting on the fence if you've been reading my comments on this thread.


Now answer these for yourself.


1) How is the God JW worship any different from the God other believers of the faith worships? That would clear up this "Our God vs Your God" maximus69 mentioned earlier.

2) A man led by the spirit of God is in the best position to worship Him. Is it only in JW you have believers led by the spirit of God?


If you cannot reply me without insults or jabs, don't bother mentioning me...

Before addressing your questions, let me make this point clear to you.
You can't worship the true God if you don't know the history of those who worshiped him in times past!
Throughout the earth, people globally feels there are gods that they must worship for things to go well with them hence the birth of FALSE religion.

Regarding worship, God introduced himself first to Abraham then Isaac then Jacob. That was how Jacob's descendants became God's people out of all other races! Exodus 5:1-2

Whenever they go contrary to HIS standards which is stipulated in the laws HE gave them through Moses, HE will send a messenger to correct them!

So now your two questions!
(1) All other religious groups only stood on the foundation laid by their human founders so even if they notice any blunders in the teaching of their human founder, few will just form yet another group but not to distinguish themselves from the former, they'll still be claiming THE SAME GOD as if HE is a God of confusion. 2Timothy 3:5
Jehovah's Witnesses have made countless changes in the teachings of their forerunners, so it is clear they are not teaching according to the tradition of men who will just imagine that you and i are right despite sharp contrasts in our beliefs. They believe Jesus is the founder so they keep making amendment to suit Jesus' thoughts, words and actions whenever they discover something new while searching the scriptures!

(2) YES! Because they're the only group following Jesus' footsteps. How?
Before the coming of the Messiah John the baptist made a public notification that the Messiah will soon appear, all the people were anticipating His presence but there are several religious groups all claiming worshipers of the God of Jacob [their forefather]. All these rival groups were teaching the people divers applications of God's words found in Genesis to Malachi{the existing books back then} but there is no WISDOM in their so called teachings as the people kept dividing and dividing due to so many conflicting teachings all in the name of Jehovah{the God of Jacob}
So when Jesus[Messiah] finally began his own teaching, the applications were simple and straightforward and He made it clear that whoever fails to apply His teachings is doomed! John 3:16-18
That is why all the former rival groups quickly formed allies and turned against Him and His followers just as they're doing against Jehovah's Witnesses today! Matthew 10:22, John 17:14-16

TATIME:
Before addressing your questions, let me make this point clear to you.
You can't worship the true God if you don't know the history of those who worshiped him in times past!
Throughout the earth, people globally feels there are gods that they must worship for things to go well with them hence the birth of FALSE religion.

Regarding worship, God introduced himself first to Abraham then Isaac then Jacob. That was how Jacob's descendants became God's people out of all other races! Exodus 5:1-2

Whenever they go contrary to HIS standards which is stipulated in the laws HE gave them through Moses, HE will send a messenger to correct them!

So now your two questions!
(1) All other religious groups only stood on the foundation laid by their human founders so even if they notice any blunders in the teaching of their human founder, few will just form yet another group but not to distinguish themselves from the former, they'll still be claiming THE SAME GOD as if HE is a God of confusion. 2Timothy 3:5
Jehovah's Witnesses have made countless changes in the teachings of their forerunners, so it is clear they are not teaching according to the tradition of men who will just imagine that you and i are right despite sharp contrasts in our beliefs. They believe Jesus is the founder so they keep making amendment to suit Jesus' thoughts, words and actions whenever they discover something new while searching the scriptures!

(2) YES! Because they're the only group following Jesus' footsteps. How?
Before the coming of the Messiah John the baptist made a public notification that the Messiah will soon appear, all the people were anticipating His presence but there are several religious groups all claiming worshipers of the God of Jacob [their forefather]. All these rival groups were teaching the people divers applications of God's words found in Genesis to Malachi{the existing books back then} but there is no WISDOM in their so called teachings as the people kept dividing and dividing due to so many conflicting teachings all in the name of Jehovah{the God of Jacob}
So when Jesus[Messiah] finally began his own teaching, the applications were simple and straightforward and He made it clear that whoever fails to apply His teachings is doomed! John 3:16-18
That is why all the former rival groups quickly formed allies and turned against Him and His followers just as they're doing against Jehovah's Witnesses today! Matthew 10:22, John 17:14-16

Good response. Be patient with me though.

Christians and missionaries in Northern Nigeria, India, China, the middle East who are not JW but are also persecuted and killed for the sake of Jesus, do they serve a God different from the God JW worship?

Janosky:
Since you're "not subject to the laws of the natural man," does 'solite3' defecate excrement, bathe ,sleep, eat and drink, have sex with your wife ?
You're not straight forward. You dey lie lie.

kikikikikiki !!!!!!

I know you cant comprehend it.

that is not what I meant by the laws of that governs the natural man.

For example a natural man cannot understand the things of the spirit but a spiritual man can. A natural man lives to perish but a spiritual man lives on.

didn't Jesus explained that in John 3vv8

John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

OkCornel:
So if a believer who is not a JW sincerely prays through the name of Jesus to know and worship God better, is it a fallen angel that would deceive such a person eventually?


I recall Jesus saying in the scriptures that ask and ye shall receive. And the Heavenly Father is not wicked to give stone if you ask for bread nor serpent if you ask for fish...

How is the God JW worship any different from God other believers worship?

The division in the church is really nauseating.

Before Christianity was fully established in the year 33ce, anybody can worship the true God in the temple and God will accept such sacred service based on the former covenant. But after the day of Pentecost whoever worships differently from what Jesus' group teaches is no more worshiping the true God! Romans 10:1-4
So in order to worship God acceptably, you must identify the group his son is using otherwise all your worship is for demons! Act 2: 37-38
Satan is the one behind false worship and he is not relenting in using Jesus' name to organise false worship, that is why you need to IDENTIFY Jesus' group or else you'll end up in one of Satan's numerous traps[false religion]
Satan is deceiving people now with SIGNS and WONDERS so even if you're doing exactly what Jesus abhors, you'll be performing miracles in Jesus name! Matthew 7:21-23 compared to Revelations 16:13-14
So your sincere prayer now is 'how to IDENTIFY Jesus' REAL followers'!
Jesus have reorganized his group in this endtime, after his life and Ministry Satan killed all his true disciples and initiated false religion in the name of Jesus[Matthew 13:34-30] but today Jesus is back in the spirit and he is now separating the sheep[humble and righteous ones] from all the false religions in which they're lost to form one single happy global family of worshipers! Matthew 25:46
So if you refuse to join them and WORK with them as in support them in delivering the task Jesus gave them to do, he will disown you! Matthew 25:44-46