₦airaland Forum

Heartmender1:
Chai!
And here we dey pray make them carry light.
We dey get light 18-20hours a day

where is that?

Sterope:
Nigerians are not willing to pay. It is one of many reasons it will take a while for us to have 24/7 electricity supply. People would rather bribe the officials or reconnect once they have been disconnected. Some of those who have the meter have either chosen to remove the meter or bypass it. Amongst many other reasons, it is also the reason the electricity rate is so high.

Things like this will always happen when people are faced with issues such as estimated billing by the power companies. In my flat I have a TV, fan and light bulbs, I leave the house in the morning and come back in the night. I sleep in the dark for Approx 20 days in a month. The electricity company brings a bill of 15,000 at the end of the month, I feel pissed and dissatisfied by their service.

I decide to tell them to give me a digital meter and I eventually discovered that #2,000 worth of electricity is what I consume in a month. I think this makes sense.

When the electricity company is ripping you off and you fight back, you have chaos

Good for them! Share pre paid meter, na lie. They (NEPA) staff go about discouraging people from getting it. That even scare people that they'll pay more with prepaid meters just because they want to keep moving around and harrasing people with their ladders and pliers in the name of disconnection

Livefreeordieha:
my brother tactius.. Good morning... Again u impressed me with ur write up but still same end results.. Ignorance!!! The reason is you are faulting or putting the chunk of blame on the masses... The reason we are having diz epileptic power supply or nothing at all is a result of failed governance and leadership...
Please I want u to think it through pragmatically and holistically..
If all houses are metered there won't be need to endanger lives and ruin economic growth..
The NEPA offices they use generator sets.. Does it mean that they also don't pay bills??
Don't in the attempt to appear patriotic become delusional and mentally impaired the world has gone beyond such bro... I live in Europe over a decade now... And you only pay for what u use... And if u over pay they know from their offices and this excesses are credited to u by the end of the year during audit..
I hereby enjoin u to a brief thinking time... Good morning once more...

May your days be long...

That community should kiss electricity supply goodbye for the next 3years. Now, the rest of the community will pay for the foolishness of the few members.

Nukilia:
May your days be long...

amen.. And I wish the same for ur entire households in Jesus name.. One needs everything to survive in that country.. Ignorant people only support mediocrity or half baked leaders.. I'm enlightened enough to understand the rudiments of governance and I know it requires pro activity, vision and will power.. Basic amenities aren't luxury but rights... Just like the senators alluded that there regular car gifts and bogus incredulous salaries are justified..

Livefreeordieha:
amen.. And I wish the same for ur entire households in Jesus name.. One needs everything to survive in that country.. Ignorant people only support mediocrity or half baked leaders.. I'm enlightened enough to understand the rudiments of governance and I know it requires pro activity, vision and will power.. Basic amenities aren't luxury but rights... Just like the senators alluded that there regular car gifts and bogus incredulous salaries are justified..

It takes an intelligent and smart person to understand your perspective. Nigeria is a country where people have suffered and they see the suffering as normal. The people do not only support mediocrity and incompetent leaders, they provide justifiable reasons why such incompetent leaders should continue to plunder the nations resources.

Nigerians need help...

Nukilia:
It takes an intelligent and smart person to understand your perspective. Nigeria is a country where people have suffered and they see the suffering as normal. The people do not only support mediocrity and incompetent leaders, they provide justifiable reasons why such incompetent leaders should continue to plunder the nations resources.

Nigerians need help...

smart only I will say because we have very intelligent people but like mum has always told us u can be intelligent but foolish and stupid..


About the help... I doubt anyone can do that.. That country is on autopilot mode..

wirinet:
And who is to blame for all these things you listed? Why should I be made to pay for the crimes of others?

Power theft is a crime in Nigeria, why can't the discos hire more inspectors and lawyers, instead of marketers and people carrying ladders up and down.

In the beginning Eko Disco used to arrest and charge power thieves to court in my former estate and first time offenders were made pay N100,000 fines as punishment, but later, they got lazy and complacent and resumed the old age practice of carrying ladder up and down. Now, hardly anyone pays for power, as long as you have N1000 to bribe the people carrying ladder up and down.

Here a large part of the blame has to be placed on Nigeria's legal system. It is expensive to hire lawyers to prosecute power thieves on an individual basis, and Nigeria's legal system lacks the speed, efficiency and reliability required for a more automated approach, so what other option is left for the DISCOs, seeing as so many people have no qualms physically bypassing any measures put in place for remote disconnection of delinquent customers.

tactius:
I have advocated for metering everyone in other posts elsewhere.

What I don't like is the fact that some Nigerians seem to think that power is 'free of charge'.

I am being relaistic. Sadly, realism is something Nigerians don't like hearing.

We need a lot of money to fix power. Yes, it involves paying for bad service in the short term, but long term, things would get better.

But since Nigerians seem to think that everyone is out to get them, or to cheat them (and there is some truth in that assertion)...DISCOs AND gencos don't get enough money to improve things.

And metering everyone won't solve matters. People bypass meters. Plus, the bills we pay are below production costs.

Once again, I don't like saying this...but we don't have light because we don't want to pay enough for it. Power is not cheap.

Telecommunications services isn't cheap either. But Nigerian people gladly pay for it. You know why? They see what they are paying for.
If you say 24hrs power supply is 20k per month, metering will give you the option of having to spend 5k per month as your pocket can carry.
Nobody is say power is cheap, give them the power first, then the options from the meter will make them regulate their expenses.

thesicilian:
He was just doing his job. People should learn to direct their grievances through the appropriate channels.

Ehn ehn.. But the mumu no know say light no dey? If them send you go sambisa forest without a weapon, you go enter there?

Ifebazz:
Telecommunications services isn't cheap either. But Nigerian people gladly pay for it. You know why? They see what they are paying for.
If you say 24hrs power supply is 20k per month, metering will give you the option of having to spend 5k per month as your pocket can carry.
Nobody is say power is cheap, give them the power first, then the options from the meter will make them regulate their expenses.

In the begining, we did not see any good thing from the telecom sector.

Service was poor. You could not call other service providers. Internet was very bad, you could not call NITEL land lines either, and then there were missed calls, etc.

But because Obasanjo allowed them to charge the prices they wanted...they made enough money to make things much better.

Since we privatised power, government has been controlling prices. Many Nigerians...not all, but a good number don't pay. Many bypass meters when they get them, and government agencies also owe.

Yet somehow we exepct DISCOS to improve when we ain't givng them enough money to make the improvements.

You cannot pay N200 and expect N200000 serivce.

tactius:
Nigerians still have to pay for power.

Good morning to you, and face reality. You cannot pay N200 and expect service of N200000 worth.

What exactly is your argument?
That Nigerians (including you) are getting the worth of power they are paying for?
Or that they should pay before being served the said amount?

junkiesneverdie:
For the past 6 days I haven't seen light in street Olugbede market egbeda I'm waiting for them to come disconnect

Bros those Nepa guys are criminals, you will be shock to know that whenever they are about to come cut off people's wire, some few day to that they will live the power supply on, probably for like 2 day.
Nigeria is doomed

tactius:
In the begining, we did not see any good thing from the telecom sector.

Service was poor. You could not call other service providers. Internet was very bad, you could not call NITEL land lines either, and then there were missed calls, etc.

[b]But because Obasanjo allowed them to charge the prices they wanted...[/b]they made enough money to make things much better.

Since we privatised power, government has been controlling prices. Many Nigerians...not all, but a good number don't pay. Many bypass meters when they get them, and government agencies also owe.

Yet somehow we exepct DISCOS to improve when we ain't givng them enough money to make the improvements.

You cannot pay N200 and expect N200000 serivce.

Is that proper?
Is that the right business etiquette you would encourage anyone going into business to practice?
Is that what you do in your own business line?

Didi2d:
Bros those Nepa guys are criminals, you will be shock to know that whenever they are about to come cut off people's wire, some few day to that they will live the power supply on, probably for like 2 day.
Nigeria is doomed

That is their basic practice. They just fix the light to last some hours prior to billing and disconnection.
Yahoo nor too pass this one sha. Na only the 'plus' never enter.

olaolaking:
That is not the reason you should result to violence. I always tell people remember the law when you want to fight and use the law to guide yourself. The perpetrators were sentenced and now what is their gain?

I never supported the evil they did,I only asked a question if they are to pay even when they don’t see light?

nwimo22:
I never supported the evil they did,I only asked a question if they are to pay even when they don’t see light?

The thread is not related to your question

tactius:
The main reason why we have problems with power is people who won't pay their bills and attack disco officials doing their jobs.

Yes, discos 'extort' us, but if you were running a business and people took things for free, would you have money to invest in growing your business.

Nigerians want free power. Even if you give these guys free meter, they will bypass it.

And we Nigerians are so uncivilized. Assaulting people is a criminal offence

And the reason why many.people don't have light is because of the many who don't pay for their power

You're not correct, have you paid both estimated and pre paid so you can feel the difference.

Estimated bill has been a thorn in the flesh of Nigerians.

Till early last year in my rented apartment, we used to received bill of 7k monthly on average; meanwhile we are just two tenants in the compound. So towards the middle of last year our Pre paid meter was ready two years after been proccessed, I can tell you convincingly that we've been relief greatly since then.
We've never recharge more than 2k at a go and it serve us up to 8 weeks on average, imagin the difference. In fact, our card have never finished for once before we get it recharged because it so convinient; my co tenant bring 1k and I add 1k to be 2k and we think of contributing again after seventh weeks.

We could have received bill of nothing less that 14k in 8 weeks instead of just 2k we are recharging.

Estimated bill is one of the major problems confronting Nigerians, it is a means of reaping Nigerians from their hard earn incomes. It is a big scam.

Na so Enemyofpeace/enemyofprogress and his village pipu go be be in darkness for the next 5 years?


Eeyah! Sorriment oh..

olaolaking:
The thread is not related to your question

Ok Relation officer

tactius:
The main reason why we have problems with power is people who won't pay their bills and attack disco officials doing their jobs.

Yes, discos 'extort' us, but if you were running a business and people took things for free, would you have money to invest in growing your business.

Nigerians want free power. Even if you give these guys free meter, they will bypass it.

And we Nigerians are so uncivilized. Assaulting people is a criminal offence

And the reason why many.people don't have light is because of the many who don't pay for their power

what rubbish are you saying from your mouth.what stop them from giving everybody prepaid meter

youngsahito:
what rubbish are you saying from your mouth.what stop them from giving everybody prepaid meter

And of everybody had prepaid meters, some will be bypassed.

Anyway, my local disco is metering everyone now

tactius:
And of everybody had prepaid meters, some will be bypassed.

Anyway, my local disco is metering everyone now

prepaid meters is part of the solution to Nigeria interrupted power supply

tactius:
And of everybody had prepaid meters, some will be bypassed.

Anyway, my local disco is metering everyone now

Whether everyone is metered or not, those that will bypass will always bypass. The estimated billing is just billing the law abiding citizens for the sins of criminals. Power thieves will steal power whether metered or not. Some have extra wires to reconnect every time NEPA officials cut their wires.

INTEGRITYA1:
You're not correct, have you paid both estimated and pre paid so you can feel the difference.

Estimated bill has been a thorn in the flesh of Nigerians.

Till early last year in my rented apartment, we used to received bill of 7k monthly on average; meanwhile we are just two tenants in the compound. So towards the middle of last year our Pre paid meter was ready two years after been proccessed, I can tell you convincingly that we've been relief greatly since then.
We've never recharge more than 2k at a go and it serve us up to 8 weeks on average, imagin the difference. In fact, our card have never finished for once before we get it recharged because it so convinient; my co tenant bring 1k and I add 1k to be 2k and we think of contributing again after seventh weeks.

We could have received bill of nothing less that 14k in 8 weeks instead of just 2k we are recharging.

Estimated bill is one of the major problems confronting Nigerians, it is a means of reaping Nigerians from their hard earn incomes. It is a big scam.

1.I have paid estimated bill. 11000 for a one bedroom flat monthly till 2017.

2.I now use a.meter where I live. 5000 a month

tactius:
1.I have paid estimated bill. 11000 for a one bedroom flat monthly till 2017.

2.I now use a.meter where I live. 5000 a month

That's different of #6,000 monthly to your benefits, so what are we now saying.

How nice could it be; if all the 6,000 excess you've paid till 2017 should be returned to you?

INTEGRITYA1:
That's different of #6,000 monthly to your benefits, so what are we now saying.

How nice could it be; if all the 6,000 excess you've paid till 2017 should be returned to you?

And the reason why my estimated bills were high is because people bypass meters.

So pressure gets put on us legitimate payers

tactius:
And the reason why my estimated bills were high is because people bypass meters.

So pressure gets put on us legitimate payers

I don't agree with you that; bypass should be the reason behind your 6k monthly excessive charges.

Bypass is a dubious and serious offence. If bypass was so rampact in your area, then what are the measures been taken by electric power officials to curb it? To the best of my knowledge if you should bypass that can be easily detected and the perpetrators will be arrested and dealt with accordingly.

If your claimed of 6k excessive charges was truly due to bypass by other fellows, then there is a negligence in the side of those at the helm of affairs and you've been forced to pay for it. That's very bad

Your 6,000 monthly excessive charges is #72,000 in one year and if you should pay it like that for 5 years, that will be #360,000 and also in 10 years is #720,000. That's what an average Nigerians has been surferring in the face of estimated bills.

Let call a spade a spade, estimated bill is a fraud.

tactius:
And the reason why my estimated bills were high is because people bypass meters.

So pressure gets put on us legitimate payers

That's why there are no incentives to go after defaulters and bypassers, they put the burden on those who want to do the right thing.
In Nigeria, officials prefer to harass soft targets or law abiding citizens, but remain oblivious to criminals. Only in Nigeria will you see police stop law abiding citizen and search his bags and phones at a notorious bus stop, with agberos (thugs) beating conductors and harassing passerby in full glare.

Tutugurl:
where is that?

Ilorin.

Basin