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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by emsheddy(m): 11:43am On May 30, 2019
Those e-rats want us to believe otherwise. God help us abeg. Naija matter tire man

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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by wakes: 11:43am On May 30, 2019
WHAAAAT!
Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by Nobody: 11:44am On May 30, 2019
So are you guys tell8ng me that it's worthless investing in Nigeria?

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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by Erolow(f): 11:44am On May 30, 2019
Wow. when will it get better in this country? Now nah all man for himself o. Guys go and develop yourselves o. Find link in my signature below to join the GenM program and build your skills as a digital marketer at no cost. The future belongs to those who develop themselves now and are prepared for anything.
Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by Bloooody(m): 11:44am On May 30, 2019
It's these kind of threads zombies like @manbbq will avoid.

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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by soleexx(m): 11:46am On May 30, 2019
orion7:
buhari has been bad for Nigerians

Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by Oceannaagent: 11:46am On May 30, 2019
Invest in property, it pays
Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by Bizlifelines201: 11:49am On May 30, 2019
shachris02:


https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2019/05/28/nigeria-has-become-africas-money-losing-machine/#2d17a59677ac
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Even though 2012 is GEJ's tenure which is the lowest period of decency in governance in Nigeria,I still don't believe Nigeria should pay them.
Hack writers trying to twist the hand of Nigerian government to pay fraudulent people. Nigeria should sue them in Nigerian courts too.
The whole damn write up is to put pressure on Nigeria to pay money to these crooks for jobs not done.
Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by Germandude: 11:51am On May 30, 2019
From d report the spiral downfall started since 2013.just wonder why illiterate lead a country like Nigeria. We are finishe'd. Imagine south Africa gdp per capita is times 5 of Nigerian. We just claiming largest economy when in real essence combined with our population we are miles behind south africa
Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by Nobody: 11:51am On May 30, 2019
SPOT-ON! anything the redundant recessionist touches crumbles!.... the shithole is irredeemable.

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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by optimusprime2(m): 11:53am On May 30, 2019
I just know another recession is in the pipeline...
Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by Nobody: 11:53am On May 30, 2019
Is this truly from Forbes? Aside from the factual errors and misinformation, the grammar structure is too poor. Except written by a non-English person.

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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by AirBagi(m): 11:56am On May 30, 2019
The truth is we would all be affected, we would all suffer it one way or the other if we don't come together to push this country forward, it's no joking matter,
God bless Nigeria
God bless hausas
God bless igbos
God bless Yorubas
God bless everyone
God bless you and me
God bless president buhari
Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by Bizlifelines201: 11:56am On May 30, 2019
Mosesm:
Is this truly from Forbes? Aside from the factual errors and misinformation, the grammar structure is too poor. Except written by a non-English person.
It's a sponsored write up!
Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by Kayouzka(m): 11:57am On May 30, 2019
We shall prevail
Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by lexy2014: 11:57am On May 30, 2019
leokid866:


Sure Blame the man at the top, like he is the only one involved in all this.

Who else is involved & y should d man at d top not b blamed?

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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by seguno2: 11:58am On May 30, 2019
Concerning price control, let those who have eyes read the comment below and do the needful.

budaatum:

The emboldened is about the only bit of this that got my attention but I notice it caught no one else's.

"Price controls"! It means a product is kept at a price set by government, and in Nigeria, we know it's kept low and very likely beneath the cost at which it can be sold at a profit. Like petrol really. But we can at least claim a reason for petrol with our crude oil and our ineptitude at running refineries. Electric though!?

Imagine it were tomatoes. You invest in land and fertiliser and labour and grow them, and when you get them to the market, government sets the price. I'm absolutely certain if that price is higher than the cost at which you grow your tomatoes, you wouldn't mind much. You'd likely be delighted if it's high enough for you to make a tidy profit. And if you're fortunate and the price set is so high, you'd likely invest in more land and more fertilizer and more labour and grow even more tomatoes. But this is Naija, where the price set by government is more likely to be way below your costs so that after you sell your tomatoes, you would have lost money.

Now think, you lost money on your tomatoes. Are you going to plant tomatoes next season? If you're into the charity business or you're stupid, you just might. But if you're not and have rent and school fees for your kids to pay and you want to eat and pay the interest on a loan I very much doubt you'd be stupid enough to throw your money away growing unprofitable tomatoes!

Well, that's the case with electricity in Nigeria I'm afraid. You generate it, transport it along unreliable transmission wires, lose a large chunk of it to illegal use and theft and what you do get paid for does not cover the cost of producing it. Now tell, would you plant electricity next season? I very much doubt it unless you're into the charity business or you're stupid, of course, but somehow, I just can't imagine you'd be either.

So, what's the solution you might wonder. Increase the price of electricity of course. But come on people, increase the price of electricity so electricity planters can earn more money and plant more and sell more? Surely you must be cursing me by now, or haven't you noticed you'd have to pay more for my electric if you want it?

Ok, perhaps you're all nice civilised folks and don't want to curse me so let's try a different way of looking at this. Imagine Buhari removes the price control so I can sell my electricity at a market determined price like I currently sell my tomatoes no doubt at a profit high enough for me to want to plant more next year. Are you cursing me yet? I'm sure you would be if it was the subsidy on petrol I were talking about removing Hell no! You'd likely stone me if you could get your hands on me!

Well, that's what this piece is saying where it says "The private sector is given little incentive to invest.” After all, I'm in the electric planting business for the money and the profit and not because I love you all as Adam Smith would say, so why give you light if you aren't paying me for the priviledge! And you wanna complain you're in darkness?!

When you pay me enough to cover my planting of tomatoes after paying for the land and the fertilizer and the labour and the interest on a loan and cover what I lose to theft and illegal harvesting, and still make a tidy profit to reinvest, I will plant 12000megawatts of tomatoes and I will sell 12000megawatts of tomatoes and even more megawatts of tomatoes than you can eat even because you would be incentivizing me to invest what you pay me in more land and more fertiliser and more labour to plant more tomatoes so I will have more tomatoes to sell you and make more money. But if you want cheap electric, keep your price controls and don't incentivize me but don't expect me to waste my time labouring in the sun just so you can have light because, like you, I ain't that stupid nor into the charity business!

Anyone cursing me yet, because I am telling you, we are too cheap!

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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by savcy(m): 11:58am On May 30, 2019
Wow.
Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by lexy2014: 11:58am On May 30, 2019
Mosesm:
Is this truly from Forbes? Aside from the factual errors and misinformation, the grammar structure is too poor. Except written by a non-English person.

Pls provide d facts, d right information & d correct grammar structure

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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by uuzba(m): 11:59am On May 30, 2019
kennygee:
And the downward spiral continues.

Enjoy your next level Nigerians.

Ah ah? But their putting electronic bill boards on falomo Bridge VI.
Shey I thought it was to attract investors na? smiley

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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by desmond2pk: 11:59am On May 30, 2019
I remember how festus keyamo blasted jonathan before 2015 on how he miss governed nigeria and also destroyed pdp.
He thought it was easy to rule.
Today, he and his people and plunged nigeria to a type of darkness that it would take more than 50 years for nigeria to recover.

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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by WHITELIGHTER: 12:01pm On May 30, 2019
We shouldn't be celebrating this. In as much as the economy isn't good, I feel these foreign crooks over exaggerate the true situation of Africa

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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by TheStarsAlign: 12:03pm On May 30, 2019
dokyOloye:
As dem get d great Gatsby,
Na so dem get d great Dullard of Daura.
Everything he touches is ash.

Bhad guy...
Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by olumalcolm(m): 12:09pm On May 30, 2019
My pple japa is d only option. On a more serious note, if we cannot face our challenges head on, d only option is to move ahead. I wont be part of dis doom cmin, NEVER. angry

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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by Angelfrost(m): 12:10pm On May 30, 2019
leokid866:


We will. Thanks.

Just personalize it... Say "I"...

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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by Teenaira: 12:11pm On May 30, 2019
Bizlifelines201:
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Even though 2012 is GEJ's tenure which is the lowest period of decency in governance in Nigeria,I still don't believe Nigeria should pay them.
Hack writers trying to twist the hand of Nigerian government to pay fraudulent people. Nigeria should sue them in Nigerian courts too.
The whole damn write up is to put pressure on Nigeria to pay money to these crooks for jobs not done.

Good. So who the hell is stopping Nigeria from sueing them.

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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by AngelicBeing: 12:11pm On May 30, 2019
When you see analysis like this, some morons and frustrated people on Nairaland will be angry especially when you say things the way they are, let them keep supporting the useless government while they remain hungry, poor, haggard and depressed, one was even talking trash to me in another thread but looking at the profile of the dimwit, you will see suffering and lamentations, nonsense grin

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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by Automatic3444(m): 12:20pm On May 30, 2019
Generalkaycee:
Damn! It's time to save the presidency from the President...


ok ok on jo ko...when water pass garri

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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by chibjohn(m): 12:23pm On May 30, 2019
seguno2:


budaatum:

The emboldened is about the only bit of this that got my attention but I notice it caught no one else's.

"Price controls"! It means a product is kept at a price set by government, and in Nigeria, we know it's kept low and very likely beneath the cost at which it can be sold at a profit. Like petrol really. But we can at least claim a reason for petrol with our crude oil and our ineptitude at running refineries. Electric though!?

Imagine it were tomatoes. You invest in land and fertiliser and labour and grow them, and when you get them to the market, government sets the price. I'm absolutely certain if that price is higher than the cost at which you grow your tomatoes, you wouldn't mind much. You'd likely be delighted if it's high enough for you to make a tidy profit. And if you're fortunate and the price set is so high, you'd likely invest in more land and more fertilizer and more labour and grow even more tomatoes. But this is Naija, where the price set by government is more likely to be way below your costs so that after you sell your tomatoes, you would have lost money.

Now think, you lost money on your tomatoes. Are you going to plant tomatoes next season? If you're into the charity business or you're stupid, you just might. But if you're not and have rent and school fees for your kids to pay and you want to eat and pay the interest on a loan I very much doubt you'd be stupid enough to throw your money away growing unprofitable tomatoes!

Well, that's the case with electricity in Nigeria I'm afraid. You generate it, transport it along unreliable transmission wires, lose a large chunk of it to illegal use and theft and what you do get paid for does not cover the cost of producing it. Now tell, would you plant electricity next season? I very much doubt it unless you're into the charity business or you're stupid, of course, but somehow, I just can't imagine you'd be either.

So, what's the solution you might wonder. Increase the price of electricity of course. But come on people, increase the price of electricity so electricity planters can earn more money and plant more and sell more? Surely you must be cursing me by now, or haven't you noticed you'd have to pay more for my electric if you want it?

Ok, perhaps you're all nice civilised folks and don't want to curse me so let's try a different way of looking at this. Imagine Buhari removes the price control so I can sell my electricity at a market determined price like I currently sell my tomatoes no doubt at a profit high enough for me to want to plant more next year. Are you cursing me yet? I'm sure you would be if it was the subsidy on petrol I were talking about removing Hell no! You'd likely stone me if you could get your hands on me!

Well, that's what this piece is saying where it says "The private sector is given little incentive to invest.” After all, I'm in the electric planting business for the money and the profit and not because I love you all as Adam Smith would say, so why give you light if you aren't paying me for the priviledge! And you wanna complain you're in darkness?!

When you pay me enough to cover my planting of tomatoes after paying for the land and the fertilizer and the labour and the interest on a loan and cover what I lose to theft and illegal harvesting, and still make a tidy profit to reinvest, I will plant 12000megawatts of tomatoes and I will sell 12000megawatts of tomatoes and even more megawatts of tomatoes than you can eat even because you would be incentivizing me to invest what you pay me in more land and more fertiliser and more labour to plant more tomatoes so I will have more tomatoes to sell you and make more money. But if you want cheap electric, keep your price controls and don't incentivize me but don't expect me to waste my time labouring in the sun just so you can have light because, like you, I ain't that stupid nor into the charity business!

Anyone cursing me yet, because I am telling you, we are too cheap!

You just said my mind. There couldn't have been a better analogy. I am a stakeholder in the power industry and know that till Nigeria fixes cost reflective energy tariffs and criminalises energy theft we would never have constant power supply.

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Re: Nigeria Has Become Africa's Money-losing Machine - Forbes Magazine by bishopmart(m): 12:23pm On May 30, 2019
I can say i have seen three big investors that i know left Nigeria,
North American Airline
Etisalat
Virgin Atlantic
There are more that have left, just imagine

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