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Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by Hotfreezers: 4:05pm On May 31, 2019
Pojomojo:
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Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by Planet3xi: 4:06pm On May 31, 2019
I've interviewed and spoken with over 300 in the past three years and not more than 5 scored 55% in my books. There's need to declare a state of emergency
Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by Fantazy(m): 4:06pm On May 31, 2019
Hmmm. wat a pity!
Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by enemyofprogress: 4:06pm On May 31, 2019
I asked a female candidate what her aspirations were if money was not a restraining factor. Her answer left all of us on the interview panel with mouths wide open. "I want to live large and live big", she told us. that one must be a Igbo

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Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by ogongogames(m): 4:06pm On May 31, 2019
This goes beyond the "tertiary" education. The foundation is not solid. Correct usage of grammar, spellings etc in sentences should have been learnt before one enters secondary school.

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Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by Timekeeper: 4:07pm On May 31, 2019
The post is useful


i just learnt alot from this.... God shud help us in this nation... I really learnt a lot.. Thanks so much sir

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Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by Hotfreezers: 4:09pm On May 31, 2019
Planet3xi:
I've interviewed and spoken with over 300 in the past three years and not more than 5 scored 55% in my books. There's need to declare a state of emergency

As far back as 12 years ago, we've had this problem.

In 2007, my Dad interviewed candidates for promotion into a senior rank in a Federal security agency. He told us different horror tales of what many graduates had become.

The most striking one was that of someone with an MSC in Geography who didn't know the difference between a lake and an island.

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Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by erifeoluwasimi(f): 4:10pm On May 31, 2019
The foundation something affect the building laid on it......amukun eru ewoo. Oni oke le wo e wo isale

Meaning

Disabled man your loads are not well placed
He responded that you have been looking at my loads you didn't notice my legs
Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by Hotfreezers: 4:10pm On May 31, 2019
Timekeeper:

Bro, don't look at it like that. The fact that you're reading this shows you're very lucky to know what is expected and how to improve.

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Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by Planet3xi: 4:11pm On May 31, 2019
Hotfreezers:


As far back as 12 years ago, we've had this problem.

In 2007, my Dad interviewed candidates for promotion into a senior rank in a Federal security agency. He told us different horror tales of what many graduates had become.

The most striking one was that of someone with an MSC in Geography who didn't know the difference between a lake and an island.



LMFAO. It started way before them . it started when some hard working folks would read and Jamdlb and Waec would sell their results

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Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by klever18(m): 4:12pm On May 31, 2019
Gun can end terror but education can end terrosim
Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by Patosky4U: 4:15pm On May 31, 2019
this is informative.....
Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by Timekeeper: 4:16pm On May 31, 2019
Hotfreezers:


Bro, don't look at it like that. The fact that you're reading this shows you're very lucky to know what is expected and how to improve.


Pls Unquote me.. I wana edit it.. I just read it and I feel sorry for the economy and youths.. Pls Unquote me. Pls i wana edit my statement
Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by oduademonest: 4:17pm On May 31, 2019
Another Yeibo doofus, you have to mention SW, isn't it?

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Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by Timekeeper: 4:17pm On May 31, 2019
Hotfreezers:


Bro, don't look at it like that. The fact that you're reading this shows you're very lucky to know what is expected and how to improve.



I just edited it.. Pls kindly Unquote me.. Plsssss
Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by Gabbyayo(m): 4:20pm On May 31, 2019
Sad truth. These stuffs are not really the fault of the university lecturers or system because most of our folks had a very poor academic foundation especially those that kept jumping classes and leaving their old school for a new school which would admit them in a higher class. Also the individual which have refused to self improve themselves, although some don’t even recognize a mistake when they make one. I’m not perfect but I’ll keep learning cool

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Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by InvertedHammer: 4:20pm On May 31, 2019
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Don't blame the students, blame the society. Most emphasis are placed on titles, degrees, certificates.
Who doesn't want to be addressed as Chief(Mrs) Dr. Arch. Pharm Adeniyi Musa? So the schools are filling the void by
dashing out certificates and letting the students deal with the hard knocks of life themselves.

Nigeria is not developed enough for folks to thrive on social sciences. Everyone needs a skill, a marketable ones like IT, masonry, electrician,
automobile repair, etc. Fancy grammar hardly puts food on the table.


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Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by Hotfreezers: 4:24pm On May 31, 2019
Timekeeper:

I just edited it.. Pls kindly Unquote me.. Plsssss

Done bro
Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by Nukilia: 4:25pm On May 31, 2019
InvertedHammer:
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Don't blame the students, blame the society. Most emphasis are placed on titles, degrees, certificates.
Who doesn't want to be addressed as Chief(Mrs) Dr. Arch. Pharm Adeniyi Musa? So the schools are filling the void by
dashing out certificates and letting the students deal with the hard knocks of life themselves.
Nigeria is not developed enough for folks to thrive on social sciences. Everyone needs a skill, a marketable ones like IT, masonry, electrician, automobile repair, etc. Fancy grammar hardly puts food on the table.
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You are right!
Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by GrammarNazi1(m): 4:26pm On May 31, 2019
olisasegun:
The Interview

Each time I conduct interviews, I usually end up shaking my head and lamenting about the state of education in Nigeria. Our tertiary institutions are churning out graduates who are mainly unemployable. Earlier today, I interviewed almost 50 candidates and by the end of the whole session, the only conclusion I could arrive at was that we have a BIG problem.

In one particular instance, I was alarmed when I read the CV of a particular female graduate of one of the Universities in the South West. It was full of outlandish errors and so I asked her to spell a few words. She spelt the word 'redeemed' wrongly four times before she got it right the fifth time. On her CV, she described herself as one of the officials of the church fellowship when she was an undergraduate but she wrote the name of the church wrongly. She couldn't spell the word 'corper' despite trying more than five times. Yet, during her national service, she taught pupils at a school. I underlined about 10 grammatical errors on her CV and showed them to her. She couldn't even determine where to use apostrophe s.

A particular candidate couldn't speak a whole sentence without committing serious blunders. Even when I repeated those errors while thinking he would correct himself, he repeated the blunders again. Another candidate found it difficult explaining what he studied in school. Some have not developed themselves in any way since they graduated. I had to spend some time to talk to a lady who had her Ordinary National Diploma fifteen years ago but had not done anything to improve herself since then. When she mentioned the issue of paucity of funds, I pointed at her designer bag and her well braided hair as evidence that fund was not the problem.

I asked a female candidate what her aspirations were if money was not a restraining factor. Her answer left all of us on the interview panel with mouths wide open. "I want to live large and live big", she told us. One of the candidates told us he studied 'BSc Economics'. He made the mistake thrice until I corrected him that he studied Economics and not BSc Economics. A fellow was asked to introduce himself and he started with 'My names are...'. I asked him how many people he's introducing. Even when I tried to correct him, he insisted he was correct so I gave up on him.

On one occasion, I asked a female candidate what her husband does. She replied, 'I'm sorry but he's a driver'. I asked her why she was sorry about the legitimate job that her husband does. I told her that the job of her husband does not define who he is. His job is simply a job. I told her I also drove a cab before. I spent the longest time with her as I wanted her mind to be disinfected of the low self-esteem she seemed to carry. I played the video of Femi Ogedengbe, the Nollywood actor turned security guard in the United States and encouraged her to be proud of her husband. Interestingly, the husband is a graduate and I've asked her to give me her husband's CV. She almost broke down in tears when I told her I'd rather hire her husband than her. She knelt and apologized before she left my office.

A few guys had the labels of their suit on their sleeves- at least three of them that I recall. When I asked why the labels were not removed, they grinned sheepishly. One of them told me that is the current trend. When that same guy sat down, I observed that he wore ankle socks with a significant part of his legs showing bare skin. One candidate was particularly striking for his naivety. He came in shaking and stammered while introducing himself. He could barely string a sentence together. When I tried to make him comfortable by asking him to take a deep breath, he answered by saying, "I don't know why I'm like this today. This is actually my first interview". He just finished his national service and anxiety was written all over him.

I made two major observations during the interview session today:

1. Candidates who engaged in extracurricular activities while in school turned out better. There was a lady who was a member of SIFE- Students In Free Enterprise- while she was on campus and she was one of the bright spots. There was another fellow that represented his University at a competition outside Nigeria. He was also outstanding. Likewise, a lady who was Vice President of her Students Union while she was an undergraduate. She demonstrated so much confidence during the interview.

2. Candidates that went to private universities performed better generally. There must be something the private universities are getting right as their graduates communicated better. They demonstrated a far more superior level of intelligence. I was disappointed by the performance of most graduates of mainstream universities and polytechnics. One could almost guess whether a candidate attended a private university just by listening to them.

If you're preparing for an interview, it's in your best interest to do some research about the company you want to work with if you know the company. Google is your friend. Work on your communication skills. You should be able to talk about yourself very clearly and also describe what you have done before-if you're an experienced hire. Your body language is critical- no fidgeting and no show of anxiety. All of us have butterflies in our stomach when we face strange people on an interview panel but with a smile on your face, no one will ever know. A lady cracked her knuckles throughout the interview today. It's very irritating but also shows she was nervous. Your posture is important. Dont slouch on the chair. Sit straight with your back on the chair and your legs together.

Mind your language while being interviewed. It's better to be brief than to be unnecessarily verbose. By talking too much at times, you demonstrate that you know so little. Pronounce words well. It can take some practice but stand in front of a mirror and rehearse until you get better. Be ready to defend your certificate. Demonstrate that you actually earned your degree. Maintain eye contacts. That shows your level of confidence. Good grooming is key to your success. No matter the current fad, it's safer to be conservative in your dressing. Dark coloured suits are best for interviews. Stay with white or blue shirts for men. You can never go wrong with them. You must have a great sense of colour to want to try very bright colours. It's either it turns out so good or you turn out like a magician's apprentice. Ladies have the latitude to try out more colours but the simpler, the better. Pay attention to your hair and hand bag. Synchronize your colours properly. Avoid loud jewelleries. Look your best as the book is often judged by the cover during interviews. Your appearance is what we see first before we hear what you have to say.

We need to declare a state of emergency in our education sector and even start to teach intending graduates certain life skills. Nigerian graduates will not be able to compete with their African counterparts in a few years at this rate.

By Makinde CI 77 set
...repeated...three times...university...

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Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by qanda: 4:28pm On May 31, 2019
Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by SocialJustice: 4:29pm On May 31, 2019
kstyle2:
So bad. While undergoing my masters programme, I met my project supervisor during my B.sc days. We discussed and he later asked if I could help mark some scripts for his students. This course was a 200 level course and I had firm knowledge in the course as well as having a guide on what the answers should be
What I saw that day left me gobsmacked. Students who can't churn out proper sentences, students writing in shorthand. I asked the lecturer how on earth were these students admitted and he said I haven't seen anything yet.
During my service year I came to the conclusion that we do not have an educational sector. Graduates who can't speak proper English, who can't spell and they weren't fazed about it.
School isn't the only parameter to success in life as shown by several great individuals who dropped out or never went to school. My only concern is that admission should be given to those who merit it and we need to stop graduating 'half baked' students. When students feel they can sort courses, sleep with lecturers or carry 'ochuko' into the exam hall before they can pass, we will keep having a shambolic educational sector
I believe the problem rests in the proliferation of cheap private secondary schools and universities with lecturers who don't care.
Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by qanda: 4:30pm On May 31, 2019
One of the ways we consider to remedy the situation is to build an Educational App. Check it out on Playstore.

Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by Laid2001: 4:36pm On May 31, 2019
I would have allowed this to pass as a commentary on the general state of our education, but for the second item on the write-up.

The op stated that the graduates from private universities are better than those from the federal universities. I beg to disagree. While, there has been a general degradation in our educational system in Nigeria, I still maintained that the Federal Universities are by far better than the private ones in Nigeria of today.

This may be because of my area and industry as a whole but my experience is at complete variance with what the op said. I do sit on the interview panel for my company once in a while, as a technical assessor for engineering recruits, but that is not the only source of my assertion.

I am a member of the society of petroleum engineers and we have two major competitions, the PETROBOWL and PETROQUIZ that we organize for the various universities in Nigeria. The winner in Nigeria normally goes ahead to represent Nigeria at the international competition normally during the ATCE outside Nigeria (mostly in US).

The competition has always been won by Federal Universities, in fact Uniben has won the international competition before and that was the only time a Nigerian university won it.


We also use to assess the petroleum engineering departments of universities in Nigeria and I can tell you that the private universities have a long way to go to catch up with the Federal ones.


Now, that leaves the state owned universities in between. Many are useless and are just universities in name and a few are good.


Yet, no Nigerian University is where they are meant to be in the comity of schools on the world stage.

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Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by huslercross(m): 4:37pm On May 31, 2019
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SO EDUCATIVE


I LEARNT A LOT FROM THIS

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Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by okezuoemmanue(m): 4:38pm On May 31, 2019
I teach Physics in a government secondary school employed via the N-Power program .
A secondary school that doesn't have English, Maths, Chemistry teachers. They still seat for Waec and don't ask me if the credit their papers ooo. cos YES they do.
that tells me the level of decay in our education sector
Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by ppogba: 4:42pm On May 31, 2019
If you have never being on an interview panel before, you will never know how terrible the situation is.

I remember when we asked a graduate of Economics to differentiate between Micro and Macro Economics and hell was let loose.

An undergrad of Mathematics was asked to mention the third angle of a triangle after Adjacent and Opposite and she was like.....

The truth is, the situation is almost irredeemable and when HR people are raising the alarm, people in authority should listen.

Possible cause?

Very poor primary foundation. (Those grads from private unis that the OP said performed better had the better of primary edu)

Corrupt secondary and tertiary education system.

Students not knowing that there are days of reckoning waiting for the outside the 4 walls of the uni.

Non existing leadership especially by having a round peg in a square hole.

Solution:

Follow what the holy spirit tells you.

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Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by Suelove(f): 4:51pm On May 31, 2019
Timekeeper:
The post is useful


i just learnt alot from this.... God shud help us in this nation... I really learnt a lot.. Thanks so much sir

The post is really nice. However, this is one of the issues he pointed at (unnecessary abbreviation). In the same Urban Dictionary where shud stands for should, it also means shut up.

I believe we can still educate ourselves even if the university system fails. In addition, I believe in God but the statement "God should help us" has been overused. It seems we are just too lazy to leave our comfort zone.

Lastly, I believe we can make good use of social media to develop our writing skill.

Please, don't be offended.
Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by hustla(m): 4:51pm On May 31, 2019
LOL and they keep insulting private university peeps on nairaland smh

Covenant Uni>. Any federal sch
Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by emkz: 4:51pm On May 31, 2019
I think a related matter was discussed in Journalists Hangout on TVC yesterday or the day before. Someone here mentioned that the foundation is wrong and stated that the teachers are not committed. In advanced countries, people with doctorates are secondary (high) school teachers. In Nigeria, a lot of lecturers, teachers and even policemen would do something else if they had an alternative.

That said, I think what the OP opined is a generalized systemic problem, with the education sector just a microcosm of the tragedy. My proposal is to alter the dynamics of the education system from the secondary school. For instance, it is important that high-schoolers are asked what they like to do in life so that they can be appropriately guided to take the right decisions. It is not educationally wise for someone who is good at artwork to be forced to learn dy/dx or surface and volume integrals or tensor algebra. Find out each student's strengths and build on them.

Also, vocational education needs to be emphasized. Car repairers (mechanics), tailors, electricians, drivers, plumbers, retaurateurs, chefs, welders, etc., need to be awarded certificates of apprenticeship by universities with their bosses as their supervisors and accredited lecturers affiliated to the universities. I would also be happy if boys who are trained by their ogas in the Igbo Business Model (which has been successful over the years) are also given these certificates. This way, we encourage people that not attending university in the conventional sense does not reduce their status in the society. Also, we create people who are job-creators and not job-seekers.

Finally, the educational system needs a total overhaul. I was at the University of Benin and they were running generators. I asked if they didn't have a department of power engineering or a professor of power engineering to produce electricity to power essential departments in the university. My point is that we have sufficient problems in Nigeria to serve as training incubators for our lecturers and students by channeling our university curricula to them and train students who would be employers of labour instead of being employees. This model I read is being used in Switzerland.

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Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by hustla(m): 4:52pm On May 31, 2019
ppogba:

If you have never being on an interview panel before, you will never know how terrible the situation is.

I remember when we asked a graduate of Economics to differentiate between Micro and Macro Economics and hell was let loose.

An undergrad of Mathematics was asked to mention the third angle of a triangle after Adjacent and Opposite and she was like.....

The truth is, the situation is almost irredeemable and when HR people are raising the alarm, people in authority should listen.

Possible cause?

Very poor primary foundation. (Those grads from private unis that the OP said performed better had the better of primary edu)

Corrupt secondary and tertiary education system.

Students not knowing that there are days of reckoning waiting for the outside the 4 walls of the uni.

Non existing leadership especially by having a round peg in a square hole.

Solution:

Follow what the holy spirit tells you.


Sometimes it's stage fright, been there before
Other times, applicants can be really dumb
Re: Sorry State of Education in Nigeria by tck2000(m): 4:57pm On May 31, 2019
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