Bahddo:
where is the personality attack on Ronaldo in my post?

Don't try to shift goal posts now, your post was clear enough. You guys are trying to imply that Ronaldo's goal was rated the best by professionals and wins the official award, while Messi's goal won an inconsequential fan vote.

There is no official panelist list that did a countdown from 10 to 1. They simply had a shortlist of 10 goals (its on the UEFA site too) in no defined order, and Ronaldo's goal was the first on the list. Nowhere did they tell you that that was a ranking of the goals, and that Ronaldo's own was adjudged the best.

If it was they would have said so explicitly like they did for Messi's goal that was eventually voted the best and given the title GOAL OF THE TOURNAMENT.

Also notice how it is not FANS GOAL OF THE TOURNAMENT.

Can you point to anywhere where I said it was an inconsequential fan vote? Maybe you are mistaking me for someone else. Ronaldo's goal was my personal best. Please check page 1 for my post. How can anyone refer to fans vote as inconsequential where fans are the main engine room of football? Are they not the ones that watched? While I agree that I said in one of my posts that panelists shortlisted and put Ronaldo's goal in the number 1 spot on the list (which is not a lie), I clearly stated that Messi won the votes after the fans voted.

naturalwaves:

It is not just because it is a smash in, it is about the execution and timing. Anyone can smash a ball into the net but that particular execution is exceptional. He even timed his leg movement while running with the ball such that he connected with the ball the next time his leg was in position. Timing a long range pass from opposite side or a diagonal long range pass is easier to deal with but timing a long range pass from same side while running is not easy to control talk more of giving it a one-time connection to beat one of the best goal-keepers in his near post. The execution is superb and not more than 5% of footballers can score that without giving the defender and keeper any chance. The goal needs to be stored in a museum. If it is not an exceptional goal, it won't be voted as the best by UEFA.Mind you, the committe that voted included some of the greatest players of the game in the past including the legendary Raul, who to me, is the greatest one-on-one finisher of all time.

Best one on one finishers are Roberto Baggio and Ronaldo de Lima (R9)
no one can touch these 2

mhosman:



really ??

if am that , then u must be a slowpoke and ur IQ is below 1 to comprehend simple analysis
sorry to say

There's no difference between arguing with you and a monkey... I'm done here

theDEVILisHERE:


Best one on one finishers are Roberto Baggio and Ronaldo de Lima (R9)
no one can touch these 2

Raul is more clinical in front of goal than Ronaldo De Lima . Take that to the bank!
Ronaldo De Lima may be more fearsome and aggressive but Raul is the most clinical finisher I have ever seen. What Ronaldo will achieve with 1,000J of energy, Raul will achieve same with less than 100J.

naturalwaves:

Raul is more clinical in front of goal than Ronaldo De Lima . Take that to the bank!
Ronaldo De Lima may be more fearsome and aggressive but Raul is the most clinical finisher I have ever seen. What Ronaldo will achieve with 1,000J of energy, Raul will achieve same with less than 100J.

You are a clown... When we talk of finishers in world football ever, I don't think Raul is in top 5 sef

Delima
Ruud Van Nistelrooy
Gerg Miller
Henry
Lionel Messi
C Ronaldo
Lewandowski
Inzaghi
Roberto Baggio
Van basten

cr7lomo:


There's no difference between arguing with you and a monkey... I'm done here

but monkey better pass u na

baboon

naturalwaves:

Raul is more clinical in front of goal than Ronaldo De Lima . Take that to the bank!
Ronaldo De Lima may be more fearsome and aggressive but Raul is the most clinical finisher I have ever seen. What Ronaldo will achieve with 1,000J of energy, Raul will achieve same with less than 100J.

Inzaghi is more clinical than all of them

Van basten is the most clinical and best striker of all time

The issue is "one on one" not who is more clinical

With Ronaldo 9 and Roberto Baggio aka divine ponytail a one on one is 95% sure

They would not only take the keeper out
They would destroy and make a mockery of his very existence before calmly walking the ball into the net
One on one with those 2 and ur keeper is finished

PrecisionFx:


Quagriella is 36 n Ronaldo is 34...No BIG deal .

He won player of the season because he was the best, simple.

Messi should goan win trophy with his country fess so that we can confirm him. Or else he remains a local la liga champion

see wailing o

36year old pensioner ruled ur Ronaldo and u no shame

sorry bro , we shouldn't be having this talk
Ronaldo mates are aguero, lewy, Suarez , Kane , auba, laca

Messi is up there with two footballing gods Pele and maradonna
bye

LowerPriceData0:
Great Of All Time..... G.O.A.T

thought its the real native African goat

mhosman:



see wailing o

36year old pensioner ruled ur Ronaldo and u no shame

sorry bro , we shouldn't be having this talk
Ronaldo mates are aguero, lewy, Suarez , Kane , auba, laca

Messi is up there with two footballing gods Pele and maradonna
bye

Lol... Messi with no national team trophy with Maradona and Pele?? Lol

Jokerman:


You are a clown... When we talk of finishers in world football ever, I don't think Raul is in top 5 sef

Delima
Ruud Van Nistelrooy
Gerg Miller
Henry
Lionel Messi
C Ronaldo
Lewandowski
Inzaghi

He spoke on clinical finishers
R9, Henry, Messi are not in that mold

Raul is a natural born clinical finisher

Bahddo:
where is the personality attack on Ronaldo in my post?

Don't try to shift goal posts now, your post was clear enough. You guys are trying to imply that Ronaldo's goal was rated the best by professionals and wins the official award, while Messi's goal won an inconsequential fan vote.

There is no official panelist list that did a countdown from 10 to 1. They simply had a shortlist of 10 goals (its on the UEFA site too) in no defined order, and Ronaldo's goal was the first on the list. Nowhere did they tell you that that was a ranking of the goals, and that Ronaldo's own was adjudged the best.

If it was they would have said so explicitly like they did for Messi's goal that was eventually voted the best and given the title GOAL OF THE TOURNAMENT.

Also notice how it is not FANS GOAL OF THE TOURNAMENT.

If u write an easy technical exam , u will fail woefully... English can b spoken , but to comprehend is whr the problem is...

Jokerman:


You are a clown... When we talk of finishers in world football ever, I don't think Raul is in top 5 sef

Delima
Ruud Van Nistelrooy
Gerg Miller
Henry
Lionel Messi
C Ronaldo
Lewandowski
Inzaghi

You are the greater clown here as you do not understand simple English.
Raul is one of the best one-on-one finishers ever was the first thing I said. Did I say he is the best finisher of all?
The other dude brought in Ronaldo De Lima and Baggio and I stated that Raul is more clinical in front of goal than they are. Do you understand the usage of the word "clinical"? I doubt you do. There are a couple of better strikers than RAUL (few anyway) but rare to find one as clinical as he is in front of goal. If you do not understand the maning of the word "clinical" as used, ask questions rather than joking around.
All those on your list are / were fantastic strikers as well. Someone like Fillipo Inzaghi for example. Kindly provide me with the goal records of Lewandowski , Henry and co in Europe again. The last time I checked, Raul holds the 3rd position with 142 strikes in Champions league behind Ronaldo and Messi. What is the total career strikes of those on your list when compared to Raul? Provide statistical evidence sir.

naturalwaves:

Can you point to anywhere where I said it was an inconsequential fan vote? Maybe you are mistaking me for someone else. Ronaldo's goal was my personal best. Please check page 1 for my post. How can anyone refer to fans vote as inconsequential where fans are the main engine room of football? Are they not the ones that watched? While I agree that I said in one of my posts that panelists shortlisted and put Ronaldo's goal in the number 1 spot on the list (which is not a lie), I clearly stated that Messi won the votes after the fans voted.

U will grow grey hair trying to explain to a coconut head...

Jokerman:


Lol... Messi with no national team trophy with Maradona and Pele?? Lol

have u ever seen Pele and maradonna make derogatory statements about Ronaldo ?? hell no, why??
because he isn't a threat to their goat status

they have no business with him as he isn't in their class

but u know what's up with Messi na

mhosman:



have u ever seen Pele and maradonna make derogatory statements about Ronaldo ?? hell no, why??
because he isn't a threat to their goat status

they have no business with him as he isn't in their class

but u know what's up with Messi na

U should know that Pele and maradona are south Americans,. And there will always b the rivalry between south America and Europe

cr7lomo:


U should know that Pele and maradona are south Americans,. And there will always b the rivalry between south America and Europe

hahaha

see talk

bro go and sleep
rivalry btw South America and Europe ?? chai

I hear new thing today

theDEVILisHERE:


Inzaghi is more clinical than all of them

Van basten is the most clinical and best striker of all time

The issue is "one on one" not who is more clinical

With Ronaldo 9 and Roberto Baggio aka device ponytail a one on one is 95% sure

They would not only take the keeper out
They would destroy and make a mockery of his very existence before calmly walking the ball into the net
One on one with those 2 and ur keeper is finished

Inzaghi is one of my favourite strikers as well. In fact, I cannot remember him or Raul missing a one -on- one. Almost everyone on your list is a one on one executor and this is why the issue of "clinical" needs to come in. Raul is so clinical in that situation. Ronaldo 9 bulldozeers his way through. Raul scores his through surgical precision. He is also the king of do loops in such situation.

jbtobsyn:

You are mumu. People voted Messi's goal on their website and not twitter. Olodo. Football fans voting is the correct one and not one which some mumu committee chose. Ronaldo's committee.

Look at this jobless broke son of a Dog. Did i mention you? na social media sha. u go insult me f2f my open ur head pound ur brain.. Are you normal? you dnt knw how to talk publicly?

cr7lomo:


U will grow grey hair trying to explain to a coconut head...

Lol. Funny guy

naturalwaves:

Inzaghi is one of my favourite strikers as well. In fact, I cannot remember him or Raul missing a one -on- one. Almost everyone on your list is a one on one executor and this is why the issue of "clinical" needs to come in. Raul is so clinical in that situation. Ronaldo 9 bulldozeers his way through. Raul scores his through surgical precision. He is also the king of do loops in such situation.

The king of loops is Denis Bergkam
He is also the most technically gifted player of all time

90's had strikers more clinical than Raul and Co just than injury and bad career finish most of them

On the one on one thing, R9 and Baggio give everyone a long gap
There's was no to just place rather take the keeper out completely
Far more efficient than any striker in this aspect
No one scored one on one more than those 2
There own was sure and certain goal

Jokerman:
This is wrong.

UEFA technical committee voted Ronaldo's goal as the best...

Then fans were asked to vote on UEFA website, where Messi's goal emerged 1st

https://www.givemesport.com/1480776-cristiano-ronaldo-was-awarded-cl-goal-of-the-tournament-but-lionel-messi-wins-fan-vote?autoplay=on&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Organic-Social&utm_campaign=Manual-1stedition&fbclid=IwAR2DM0SAXIfzyI9KzdyRJuUUQPql7VISh0oVFLB_EoWeFB8oBF7YfXBQZcM

https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/amp/newsid=2607891.html

.

It's the fans and players that makes up football not the technical team

theDEVILisHERE:


The king of loops is Denis Bergkam
He is also the most technically gifted player of all time

90's had strikers more clinical than Raul and Co just than injury and bad career finish most of them

On the one on one thing, R9 and Baggio give everyone a long gap
There's was no to just place rather take the keeper out completely
Far more efficient than any striker in this aspect
No one scored one on one more than those 2
There own was sure and certain goal

How many goals did Bergkam score with loops when compared to Raul?I am sure there are enough Youtube videos to quickly do a comparison. The manner Raul finishes off is just too neat and clinical. I am not trying to take away anything from others neither am I saying Raul is the best striker of all but his finishing is just so so unique with surgical precision.

mhosman:



see wailing o

36year old pensioner ruled ur Ronaldo and u no shame

sorry bro , we shouldn't be having this talk
Ronaldo mates are aguero, lewy, Suarez , Kane , auba, laca

Messi is up there with two footballing gods Pele and maradonna
bye

34 n 36 are all pensioners

Messi mates are aguero n lacazette.

Let him win with his country fess before we upgrade him.

Let them come and givr him the cup na...yeye

theDEVILisHERE:


He spoke on clinical finishers
R9, Henry, Messi are not in that mold

Raul is a natural born clinical finisher

Bro.. Messi and R9 are more clinical than Raul

naturalwaves:

You are the greater clown here as you do not understand simple English.
Raul is one of the best one-on-one finishers ever was the first thing I said. Did I say he is the best finisher of all?
The other dude brought in Ronaldo De Lima and Baggio and I stated that Raul is more clinical in front of goal than they are. Do you understand the usage of the word "clinical"? I doubt you do. There are a couple of better strikers than RAUL (few anyway) but rare to find one as clinical as he is in front of goal. If you do not understand the maning of the word "clinical" as used, ask questions rather than joking around.
All those on your list are / were fantastic strikers as well. Someone like Fillipo Inzaghi for example. Kindly provide me with the goal records of Lewandowski , Henry and co in Europe again. The last time I checked, Raul holds the 3rd position with 142 strikes in Champions league behind Ronaldo and Messi. What is the total career strikes of those on your list when compared to Raul? Provide statistical evidence sir.

Stop this Raul hype jare.. RVN, R9, Messi are more clinical than Raul

mhosman:



have u ever seen Pele and maradonna make derogatory statements about Ronaldo ?? hell no, why??
because he isn't a threat to their goat status

they have no business with him as he isn't in their class

but u know what's up with Messi na

At the end of thir careers, it's their records as achievements that will determine each player status

Jokerman:


Bro.. Messi and R9 are more clinical than Raul

Never

Clinical is about precision, accuracy, technique, deftness and delivery
Not all goal scoring strikers are said to be clinical
Clinical strikers use few touches to score and very precisely at that
while other striker require more touches to do the same

Raul is in that class of strikers
They might not outscore the others but their chance per convention ratio is the highest

theDEVILisHERE:


Never

Clinical is about precision, accuracy, technique, deftness and delivery
Not all goal scoring strikers are said to be clinical
Clinical strikers use few touches to score and very precisely at that
while other striker require more touches to do the same

Raul is in that class of strikers
They might not outscore the others but their chance per convention ratio is the highest

Bro please check them out... R9, Messi, Henry, Ruud boy are more clinical... I know Raul ba

naturalwaves:

How many goals did Bergkam score with loops when compared to Raul?I am sure there are enough Youtube videos to quickly do a comparison. The manner Raul finishes off is just too neat and clinical. I am not trying to take away anything from others neither am I saying Raul is the best striker of all but his finishing is just so so unique with surgical precision.

"...many goals did Bergkam... " alot

You probably didn't see him play at Ajax when he was European player of the yr and 2nd world best after Baggio
Even at inter and Arsenal (pre 2000)

His technique in looping is supreme
Raul looping technique is not that great

And yes Raul was a neat finisher, even Morientes, Gotti