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Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by theDEVILisHERE: 6:41am On Jun 06, 2019 |
Jokerman: Then u don't know what clinical striker mean No one who knows would rate those people above Raul Matter of fact only person close the word clinical on ur list is Ruud And I can't even call him that, he is more of a predatory type (6 yard box) like Inzaghi Clinical strikers: van basten, Raul, Davo Suker, Inzaghi (tho more of 6 yard box), john dal Tomasson (Denmark), Crespo, lewandoski, Diego Tristan (deportivo), Simone (AC Milan 95), Huntelaar (Dutch), Morientes etc ..also this fat Austrian striker, forgotten his name |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Jokerman(m): 6:46am On Jun 06, 2019 |
theDEVILisHERE: Raul played 104 games for Spain and scored 44 goals.... Is that clinical enough?? Ronaldo 98 games for Brazil 62 goals RVN 70 games 35 goals Let me not talk of Messi or Henry |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by engray: 7:02am On Jun 06, 2019 |
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Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by theDEVILisHERE: 7:04am On Jun 06, 2019 |
Jokerman: It not by goals but style of play Clinical strikers: van basten, Raul, Davo Suker, Inzaghi (tho more of 6 yard box), john dal Tomasson (Denmark), Crespo, lewandoski, Diego Tristan (deportivo), Simone (AC Milan 95), Huntelaar (Dutch), Morientes, Mark Viduka (Australia) Bases of a clinical striker is neatness, technique, sharpness and deft ease in scoring Others labour to score, they do it with ease and very natural They are the 1st type natural born strikers The other is the 6 yard box (eg: Inzaghi, Ruud) And the big old fashioned type eg: Batistuta, Drogba, Yekini etc Others are just finishers not necessarily natural born strikers |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by mhosman(m): 8:00am On Jun 06, 2019 |
PrecisionFx: d thing dey pain u hahahaha even sterling is a better number 7 than Ronaldo congrats on Ronaldo scoring a hattrick ,he was impressive |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Nobody: 8:19am On Jun 06, 2019 |
mhosman: Like say u love the phrase "pain u" cuz theres no rewson for it to come up here, stop usint it as a diversion. Fact remains that Messi is a la liga/Barca champion. Let him win with his country so that we can confirm him |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by mhosman(m): 8:53am On Jun 06, 2019 |
PrecisionFx: e pain u o almost all football greats, experts, football pages, coaches says Messi is the best ever but Ronaldo fanboys say Na lie Hahaha sorry bro, it's hard to always play second fiddle Even Bernardo Silva was interviewed last night and he just called Ronaldo one of the best to play the game... imagine � it says a lot... sorry it's a hard pill to swallow but he is just a football great |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 8:57am On Jun 06, 2019 |
Jokerman: |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 9:00am On Jun 06, 2019 |
theDEVILisHERE:Thanks for schooling the dude. |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 9:22am On Jun 06, 2019 |
theDEVILisHERE:I did not see him play at Ajax but only have clips. His Inter solourn was very short lived. Bergkamp jabs the ball more to the top of the net and he loops well too. However, his loops cannot be compared to Raul's. There is a large difference in the parabolic nature of their loops. This is a clip of Raul with some of his goals and loops. You can watch if you have time. The clip contains more than 15 looped goals. You can check out some consecutive loops around the 4th minute mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX4tWGUXdvw This is a clip of Bergkamp as well with some excellent goals and loops. Compare the parabolic nature of his loops to that of Raul. 2 different players, excellent techniques. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtLzBlkDZds&t=300s |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 9:30am On Jun 06, 2019 |
Jokerman:Funny guy, it is not about the amount of games as you do not know the game plan of the coaches. How many through balls was he given and how many did he miss? Talking about goals, Ronaldo had a career total of 352 while Raul had a career total of 404. Raul was way way more prolific than he was. You can take that to the bank . RVN had a total career strikes of 349 |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Jokerman(m): 9:40am On Jun 06, 2019 |
naturalwaves: Lol.. Who give Raul 404 goals... Lolssss... Raul just get 312 or 313 goals |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Jokerman(m): 9:53am On Jun 06, 2019 |
mhosman: I'm a Ronaldo fan yet I can't call him the greatest of all time, neither can I call Messi... The title belongs to Pele, however they are in my top 10 of all time Pele Maradona Zidane R9 Cristiano Messi Platini De stephano Beckenbauer |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Jokerman(m): 9:58am On Jun 06, 2019 |
mhosman: I'm a Ronaldo fan yet I can't call him the greatest of all time, neither can I call Messi... The title belongs to Pele, however they are in my top 10 of all time Pele Maradona Zidane R9 Cristiano Messi Platini De stephano Beckenbauer Cryuff |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by sssoulw(m): 10:00am On Jun 06, 2019 |
Look the topic very well.... Voted Goal in the UCL naturalwaves: |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by mhosman(m): 10:18am On Jun 06, 2019 |
Jokerman: but almost every legend u mentioned here acknowledge Messi as the best ever so what's ur point?? bro forget this talk.... 1 Like |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 10:57am On Jun 06, 2019 |
sssoulw:I know bro. You win! |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 11:01am On Jun 06, 2019 |
Jokerman:I am not talking about just Madrid. I said career totals. You can check his wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%BAl_(footballer)
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Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by theDEVILisHERE: 11:11am On Jun 06, 2019 |
naturalwaves: By looping u mean flicking ball up over the keeper Raul does that a lot but was never known as the king of such That technique was quite common then Claudio Lopez (Valencia), crespo (parma), Nuno Capucho (Porto) had better technique in that area Bergkamp is more of a combination of chip and ur loop Very exquisite technique, no one does it like him Most are used to his late career Arsenal goals but many of his best goals where at Ajax when he was young Even at the closest distance he takes the ball over keepers head with just 1 touch I had a DVD containing all his Ajax top goals and career Technique wise he is in another level far above any player Juninho (Lyon) is the best freekick taker of all time not cause of how many he scored but cause his technique is superior to all others in that regard To be the best in anything your technique must be superior |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Jokerman(m): 11:13am On Jun 06, 2019 |
mhosman: Lol... Acknowledge fire... It's the records and achievements that would decide that |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 11:18am On Jun 06, 2019 |
theDEVILisHERE:I agree with that of Juninho. He also had a 90%+ accuracy But, what is wrong with useless strikers of nowadays like Lukaku? One on one with the keeper in a close range, they won't even try to play a bit of a lifted shot (not loop o), they will just try to force a useless shot pass the keeper which will be deflected / saved most times. Can't they watch clips of their predecessors and learn finishing 101..the basics of finishing. |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by theDEVILisHERE: 11:30am On Jun 06, 2019 |
naturalwaves: Such things are not learnt, it's inborn Nature born talent stopped as at 2006/7 last I can think of were Mista (Valencia), Van Persie, Gudjhasson (Chelsea), hleb, Rosicsky etc The game is now for Athletes not Artists so expect more Lukaku type |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by mhosman(m): 11:33am On Jun 06, 2019 |
Jokerman: yes ..messi has the achievement and records as well and for almost every football pundit, coach, legends of the game, football pages and even commentators to be biased towards Messi says a lot he is far ahead "he's the greatest there was, the greatest there is and possibly the greatest ever will be" go and argue with the commentator that said that glaringly |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Jokerman(m): 12:53pm On Jun 06, 2019 |
mhosman:That's the commentator's opinion... Records and achievement show Pele and maradona as 1st and 2nd greatest ever players... |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 12:56pm On Jun 06, 2019 |
theDEVILisHERE:Chai |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by mhosman(m): 1:00pm On Jun 06, 2019 |
Jokerman: Hahaha... sorry bro... but I have never heard any commentator call Ronaldo the greatest of all time... show me one if there is and I will give u links to over 10 commentary calling Messi the best ever don't forget that Liverpool first leg game after that fk the commentator said "look, look, the whole camp nou is worshipping him, no doubt, he's the God of the game " �� |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Bahddo(m): 6:34pm On Jun 06, 2019 |
cr7lomo:even this retardeen has come to defend his god against the bitterness of truth. You keep getting bashed and your reasoning (or sheer lack of it) exposed across different threads but you wouldn't respect yourself for once. What do you know that this conversation was about? Don't you have fellow airheads you should be in a 'footballer cockk-sucking contest' with? |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by cr7lomo: 6:38pm On Jun 06, 2019 |
Bahddo: I don't argue with people like you... people that hv mango as brains |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by sssoulw(m): 6:48pm On Jun 06, 2019 |
All this CR7 fans and their Myopic brains sha cr7lomo: |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Mbitiouz69: 12:03pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
naturalwaves: https://ampl.ink/d8jxp |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Mbitiouz69: 12:07pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
naturalwaves: I have heard just make sure you check how many goals he has his head to score and add crespo to your list |
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 7:44pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
Mbitiouz69:okay |
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