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Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by theDEVILisHERE: 6:41am On Jun 06, 2019
Jokerman:


Bro please check them out... R9, Messi, Henry, Ruud boy are more clinical... I know Raul ba

Then u don't know what clinical striker mean
No one who knows would rate those people above Raul
Matter of fact only person close the word clinical on ur list is Ruud
And I can't even call him that, he is more of a predatory type (6 yard box) like Inzaghi



Clinical strikers: van basten, Raul, Davo Suker, Inzaghi (tho more of 6 yard box), john dal Tomasson (Denmark), Crespo, lewandoski, Diego Tristan (deportivo), Simone (AC Milan 95), Huntelaar (Dutch), Morientes etc

..also this fat Austrian striker, forgotten his name
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Jokerman(m): 6:46am On Jun 06, 2019
theDEVILisHERE:


Then u don't know what clinical striker mean
No one who knows would rate those people above Raul
Matter of fact only person close the word clinical on ur list is Ruud
And I can't even call him that, he is more of a predatory type (6 yard box) like Inzaghi




Raul played 104 games for Spain and scored 44 goals.... Is that clinical enough??
Ronaldo 98 games for Brazil 62 goals
RVN 70 games 35 goals

Let me not talk of Messi or Henry
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Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by theDEVILisHERE: 7:04am On Jun 06, 2019
Jokerman:


Raul played 104 games for Spain and scored 44 goals.... Is that clinical enough??
Ronaldo 98 games for Brazil 62 goals
RVN 70 games 35 goals

Let me not talk of Messi or Henry


It not by goals but style of play

Clinical strikers: van basten, Raul, Davo Suker, Inzaghi (tho more of 6 yard box), john dal Tomasson (Denmark), Crespo, lewandoski, Diego Tristan (deportivo), Simone (AC Milan 95), Huntelaar (Dutch), Morientes, Mark Viduka (Australia)

Bases of a clinical striker is neatness, technique, sharpness and deft ease in scoring
Others labour to score, they do it with ease and very natural

They are the 1st type natural born strikers

The other is the 6 yard box (eg: Inzaghi, Ruud)
And the big old fashioned type eg: Batistuta, Drogba, Yekini etc

Others are just finishers not necessarily natural born strikers
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by mhosman(m): 8:00am On Jun 06, 2019
PrecisionFx:

34 n 36 are all pensioners
Messi mates are aguero n lacazette.
Let him win with his country fess before we upgrade him.


d thing dey pain u hahahaha
even sterling is a better number 7 than Ronaldo

congrats on Ronaldo scoring a hattrick ,he was impressive
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Nobody: 8:19am On Jun 06, 2019
mhosman:




d thing dey pain u hahahaha

even sterling is a better number 7 than Ronaldo


congrats on Ronaldo scoring a hattrick ,he was impressive

Like say u love the phrase "pain u" cuz theres no rewson for it to come up here, stop usint it as a diversion.

Fact remains that Messi is a la liga/Barca champion. Let him win with his country so that we can confirm him
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by mhosman(m): 8:53am On Jun 06, 2019
PrecisionFx:


Like say u love the phrase "pain u" cuz theres no rewson for it to come up here, stop usint it as a diversion.

Fact remains that Messi is a la liga/Barca champion. Let him win with his country so that we can confirm him


e pain u o

almost all football greats, experts, football pages, coaches says Messi is the best ever

but Ronaldo fanboys say Na lie Hahaha

sorry bro, it's hard to always play second fiddle

Even Bernardo Silva was interviewed last night and he just called Ronaldo one of the best to play the game... imagine �

it says a lot... sorry it's a hard pill to swallow but he is just a football great
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 8:57am On Jun 06, 2019
Jokerman:


Stop this Raul hype jare.. RVN, R9, Messi are more clinical than Raul
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 9:00am On Jun 06, 2019
theDEVILisHERE:


Then u don't know what clinical striker mean
No one who knows would rate those people above Raul
Matter of fact only person close the word clinical on ur list is Ruud
And I can't even call him that, he is more of a predatory type (6 yard box) like Inzaghi



Clinical strikers: van basten, Raul, Davo Suker, Inzaghi (tho more of 6 yard box), john dal Tomasson (Denmark), Crespo, lewandoski, Diego Tristan (deportivo), Simone (AC Milan 95), Huntelaar (Dutch), Morientes etc

..also this fat Austrian striker, forgotten his name
Thanks for schooling the dude.
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 9:22am On Jun 06, 2019
theDEVILisHERE:


"...many goals did Bergkam... " alot

You probably didn't see him play at Ajax when he was European player of the yr and 2nd world best after Baggio
Even at inter and Arsenal (pre 2000)

His technique in looping is supreme
Raul looping technique is not that great

And yes Raul was a neat finisher, even Morientes, Gotti
I did not see him play at Ajax but only have clips. His Inter solourn was very short lived. Bergkamp jabs the ball more to the top of the net and he loops well too. However, his loops cannot be compared to Raul's. There is a large difference in the parabolic nature of their loops.
This is a clip of Raul with some of his goals and loops. You can watch if you have time. The clip contains more than 15 looped goals. You can check out some consecutive loops around the 4th minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX4tWGUXdvw

This is a clip of Bergkamp as well with some excellent goals and loops. Compare the parabolic nature of his loops to that of Raul. 2 different players, excellent techniques.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtLzBlkDZds&t=300s
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 9:30am On Jun 06, 2019
Jokerman:


Raul played 104 games for Spain and scored 44 goals.... Is that clinical enough??
Ronaldo 98 games for Brazil 62 goals
RVN 70 games 35 goals

Let me not talk of Messi or Henry
Funny guy, it is not about the amount of games as you do not know the game plan of the coaches. How many through balls was he given and how many did he miss? Talking about goals, Ronaldo had a career total of 352 while Raul had a career total of 404. Raul was way way more prolific than he was. You can take that to the bank cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy. RVN had a total career strikes of 349
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Jokerman(m): 9:40am On Jun 06, 2019
naturalwaves:

Funny guy, it is not about the amount of games as you do not know the game plan of the coaches. How many through balls was he given and how many did he miss? Talking about goals, Ronaldo had a career total of 352 while Raul had a career total of 404. Raul was way way more prolific than he was. You can take that to the bank cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy. RVN had a total career strikes of 349

Lol.. Who give Raul 404 goals... Lolssss... Raul just get 312 or 313 goals
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Jokerman(m): 9:53am On Jun 06, 2019
mhosman:



e pain u o

almost all football greats, experts, football pages, coaches says Messi is the best ever

but Ronaldo fanboys say Na lie Hahaha

sorry bro, it's hard to always play second fiddle

Even Bernardo Silva was interviewed last night and he just called Ronaldo one of the best to play the game... imagine �

it says a lot... sorry it's a hard pill to swallow but he is just a football great

I'm a Ronaldo fan yet I can't call him the greatest of all time, neither can I call Messi... The title belongs to Pele, however they are in my top 10 of all time

Pele
Maradona
Zidane
R9
Cristiano
Messi
Platini
De stephano
Beckenbauer
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Jokerman(m): 9:58am On Jun 06, 2019
mhosman:



e pain u o

almost all football greats, experts, football pages, coaches says Messi is the best ever

but Ronaldo fanboys say Na lie Hahaha

sorry bro, it's hard to always play second fiddle

Even Bernardo Silva was interviewed last night and he just called Ronaldo one of the best to play the game... imagine �

it says a lot... sorry it's a hard pill to swallow but he is just a football great

I'm a Ronaldo fan yet I can't call him the greatest of all time, neither can I call Messi... The title belongs to Pele, however they are in my top 10 of all time

Pele
Maradona
Zidane
R9
Cristiano
Messi
Platini
De stephano
Beckenbauer
Cryuff
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by sssoulw(m): 10:00am On Jun 06, 2019
Look the topic very well.... Voted Goal in the UCL
naturalwaves:

That was a fan vote in association with Nissan and not the official vote and declaration from UEFA.
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by mhosman(m): 10:18am On Jun 06, 2019
Jokerman:


I'm a Ronaldo fan yet I can't call him the greatest of all time, neither can I call Messi... The title belongs to Pele, however they are in my top 10 of all time

Pele
Maradona
Zidane
R9
Cristiano
Messi
Platini
De stephano
Beckenbauer
Cryuff



but almost every legend u mentioned here acknowledge Messi as the best ever


so what's ur point??
bro forget this talk....

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Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 10:57am On Jun 06, 2019
sssoulw:
Look the topic very well.... Voted Goal in the UCL
I know bro. You win! grin
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 11:01am On Jun 06, 2019
Jokerman:


Lol.. Who give Raul 404 goals... Lolssss... Raul just get 312 or 313 goals
I am not talking about just Madrid.
I said career totals.
You can check his wiki page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%BAl_(footballer)

Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by theDEVILisHERE: 11:11am On Jun 06, 2019
naturalwaves:

I did not see him play at Ajax but only have clips. His Inter solourn was very short lived. Bergkamp jabs the ball more to the top of the net and he loops well too. However, his loops cannot be compared to Raul's. There is a large difference in the parabolic nature of their loops.
This is a clip of Raul with some of his goals and loops. You can watch if you have time. The clip contains more than 15 looped goals. You can check out some consecutive loops around the 4th minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX4tWGUXdvw

This is a clip of Bergkamp as well with some excellent goals and loops. Compare the parabolic nature of his loops to that of Raul. 2 different players, excellent techniques.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtLzBlkDZds&t=300s

By looping u mean flicking ball up over the keeper
Raul does that a lot but was never known as the king of such
That technique was quite common then
Claudio Lopez (Valencia), crespo (parma), Nuno Capucho (Porto) had better technique in that area

Bergkamp is more of a combination of chip and ur loop
Very exquisite technique, no one does it like him
Most are used to his late career Arsenal goals but many of his best goals where at Ajax when he was young
Even at the closest distance he takes the ball over keepers head with just 1 touch
I had a DVD containing all his Ajax top goals and career
Technique wise he is in another level far above any player

Juninho (Lyon) is the best freekick taker of all time not cause of how many he scored but cause his technique is superior to all others in that regard

To be the best in anything your technique must be superior
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Jokerman(m): 11:13am On Jun 06, 2019
mhosman:




but almost every legend u mentioned here acknowledge Messi as the best ever


so what's ur point??
bro forget this talk....

Lol... Acknowledge fire... It's the records and achievements that would decide that
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 11:18am On Jun 06, 2019
theDEVILisHERE:


By looping u mean flicking ball up over the keeper
Raul does that a lot but was never known as the king of such
That technique was quite common then
Claudio Lopez (Valencia), crespo (parma), Nuno Capucho (Porto) had better technique in that area

Bergkamp is more of a combination of chip and ur loop
Very exquisite technique, no one does it like him
Most are used to his late career Arsenal goals but many of his best goals where at Ajax when he was young
Even at the closest distance he takes the ball over keepers head with just 1 touch
I had a DVD containing all his Ajax top goals and career
Technique wise he is in another level far above any player

Juninho (Lyon) is the best freekick taker of all time not cause of how many he scored but cause his technique is superior to all others in that regard

To be the best in anything your technique must be superior
I agree with that of Juninho. He also had a 90%+ accuracy
But, what is wrong with useless strikers of nowadays like Lukaku? One on one with the keeper in a close range, they won't even try to play a bit of a lifted shot (not loop o), they will just try to force a useless shot pass the keeper which will be deflected / saved most times. Can't they watch clips of their predecessors and learn finishing 101..the basics of finishing.
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by theDEVILisHERE: 11:30am On Jun 06, 2019
naturalwaves:

I agree with that of Juninho. He also had a 90%+ accuracy
But, what is wrong with useless strikers of nowadays like Lukaku? One on one with the keeper in a close range, they won't even try to play a bit of a lifted shot (not loop o), they will just try to force a useless shot pass the keeper which will be deflected / saved most times. Can't they watch clips of their predecessors and learn finishing 101..the basics of finishing.

Such things are not learnt, it's inborn

Nature born talent stopped as at 2006/7
last I can think of were Mista (Valencia), Van Persie, Gudjhasson (Chelsea), hleb, Rosicsky
etc

The game is now for Athletes not Artists
so expect more Lukaku type
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by mhosman(m): 11:33am On Jun 06, 2019
Jokerman:


Lol... Acknowledge fire... It's the records and achievements that would decide that



yes ..messi has the achievement and records as well


and for almost every football pundit, coach, legends of the game, football pages and even commentators to be biased towards Messi says a lot
he is far ahead


"he's the greatest there was, the greatest there is and possibly the greatest ever will be"


go and argue with the commentator that said that glaringly
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Jokerman(m): 12:53pm On Jun 06, 2019
mhosman:




yes ..messi has the achievement and records as well


and for almost every football pundit, coach, legends of the game, football pages and event commentators to be biased towards Messi says a lot
he is far ahead


"he's the greatest there was, the greatest there is and possibly the greatest ever will be"


go and argue with the commentator that said that glaringly
That's the commentator's opinion... Records and achievement show Pele and maradona as 1st and 2nd greatest ever players...
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 12:56pm On Jun 06, 2019
theDEVILisHERE:


Such things are not learnt, it's inborn

Nature born talent stopped as at 2006/7
last I can think of were Mista (Valencia), Van Persie, Gudjhasson (Chelsea), hleb, Rosicsky
etc

The game is now for Athletes not Artists
so expect more Lukaku type
Chai cry cry cry cry cry
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by mhosman(m): 1:00pm On Jun 06, 2019
Jokerman:

That's the commentator's opinion... Records and achievement show Pele and maradona as 1st and 2nd greatest ever players...



Hahaha... sorry bro... but I have never heard any commentator call Ronaldo the greatest of all time... show me one if there is


and I will give u links to over 10 commentary calling Messi the best ever


don't forget that Liverpool first leg game after that fk the commentator said "look, look, the whole camp nou is worshipping him, no doubt, he's the God of the game "



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Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Bahddo(m): 6:34pm On Jun 06, 2019
cr7lomo:


If u write an easy technical exam , u will fail woefully... English can b spoken , but to comprehend is whr the problem is...
even this retardeen has come to defend his god against the bitterness of truth.

You keep getting bashed and your reasoning (or sheer lack of it) exposed across different threads but you wouldn't respect yourself for once. What do you know that this conversation was about?

Don't you have fellow airheads you should be in a 'footballer cockk-sucking contest' with?
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by cr7lomo: 6:38pm On Jun 06, 2019
Bahddo:
even this retardeen has come to defend his god against the bitterness of truth.

You keep getting bashed and your reasoning (or sheer lack of it) exposed across different threads but you wouldn't respect yourself for once. What do you know that this conversation was about?

Don't you have fellow airheads you should be in a 'footballer cockk-sucking contest' with?


I don't argue with people like you... people that hv mango as brains
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by sssoulw(m): 6:48pm On Jun 06, 2019
All this CR7 fans and their Myopic brains sha grin grin grin grin grin
cr7lomo:



I don't argue with people like you... people that hv mango as brains
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Mbitiouz69: 12:03pm On Jun 07, 2019
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Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by Mbitiouz69: 12:07pm On Jun 07, 2019
naturalwaves:

How many goals has he scored in his entire footballing career as a professional for him to have scored over 160 with his head? undecided.
For both clubs and country, he has scored a total of 212 goals. If you subtract 160 from that, you will get 52. According to you, Madzukic has scored just about 50 goals with his legs and about 160 with his head right? If Madzukic sees this aerial ability comparison to C. Ronaldo, he will give you a hot, dirty slap. In the history of the game, only about 6 players can be compared to C. Ronaldo when it comes to aerial ability and they are; 1. Sandor Kocsis, 2. Uwe Seeler, 3. Dixie Dean, 4. Oliver Bierhoff, 5. Horst Hrubesch, 6. Carlos Santillana. Ronaldo is better than some of these but when it comes to heading the ball, these are the ones that can be mentioned in the same sentence with C. Ronaldo. C. Ronaldo is one of the greatest headers of the ball dead or alive. You can take that to the bank!

I have heard just make sure you check how many goals he has his head to score and add crespo to your list
Re: Lionel Messi's Free Kick Against Liverpool Voted Best Champions League Goal by naturalwaves: 7:44pm On Jun 07, 2019
Mbitiouz69:


I have heard just make sure you check how many goals he has his head to score and add crespo to your list
okay

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