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Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by dryakson(m): 9:16am On Jun 07, 2019 |
worlexy:Yeah the Qur'an confirmed Jesus was the messiah. But another messenger will come to continue with his good work. The chief priests and Levites asked John the Baptist, "If you are not the Christ (Messiah), and not Elijah - are you THAT Prophet?" [Bible - John 1:20] When the chief priests and Levites asked John the Baptist who he was, they asked him in a very strange way. First they questioned him as to whether or not he was the anticipated "Messiah" [Christ in Koine Greek]. He was not the "Messiah" that had hoped for. Next they asked if he was the prophet Elijah and again he tells them, "No." Now comes the really strange part. Finally, they asked him if he is "That Prophet?" Are you Christ? - [No] Are you Elijah? - [No] Are you THAT Prophet? - [No] What did they mean by "That Prophet?" We of course, know who the "Christ" is. After all, Christians should know that "Christ" is merely a shortened form of the Koine Greek word "christos," intended to mean the Hebrew word "Messiah." The Jews of two thousand years ago were definitely looking for the Messiah, who it was foretold in their books, would come and lead them to victory over their oppressors and thus gain for them mastery over this world. They were much oppressed under Roman domination and even their own Jewish kings were seen as nothing more than puppets or agents for the disbelievers. Certainly, they would have been most happy to see someone come on the scene who would defeat their Roman masters and slave drivers. Then the priests and Levites asked John the Baptist if he might be the prophet Elijah, returning back after hundreds of years being away. There was the notion amongst them that Elijah would come back. But again, John the Baptist is denying he is Elijah. Then, who is he? They wonder at this man living out in the desert and forsaking wealth and luxury and fasting, avoiding the material attractions of life. Again, they ask John the Baptist who he is. "Are you THAT Prophet?" And one more time he denies being "THAT Prophet," but then he does tell them about someone who will come after him soon, whom he claims he is not worthy to even unlace his shoes. However, this does not answer the question, "Who were they expecting besides the Messiah?" Could it be they were looking for someone like Muhammad? (Could be) Who is THAT Prophet? - Pls learn more about prophet Muhammad peace and blessings of Allah be with him. We already know about Jesus in our book And I know u didn't believe Jesus is a messenger of God? |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by worlexy(m): 10:17am On Jun 07, 2019 |
dryakson:But you said the original Bible is lost, so from where did you get all these quotations you cited? You're funny. You think you can obey part of the Bible and discard others ? It's all-or-none! It's either you believe everything in the Bible from which you got all your quotations or you don't believe anything at all. I have nothing much to tell you. Your Quran 10:94 has already told you that if you're in doubt about what is revealed to you, you should ask the Bible, what that means is that anything in the Quran that you can't find in the Bible is null and void. Go and understand your Quran first, before you come and embarrass yourself here, because I will expose all your lies |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by dryakson(m): 10:30am On Jun 07, 2019 |
worlexy:Lolx. Remain blessed my bro. Cheers 1 Like |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by worlexy(m): 10:31am On Jun 07, 2019 |
dryakson:Before we divert to trashing the issues of the Bible, comment on all other issues I raised in the Quran first and not just the Messiah part. Now before I discuss the Bible with you, since you believed that the Bible quotations you cited above are from the Bible you believe in. Then you must agree that you will agree to every other thing I show you in that same Bible, if you can't, then we have nothing to discuss. As for the Quran, nowhere in the Quran was it stated that Holy Spirit revealed the Quran to Mohammed, it was a spirit who never introduced himself as being from God and neither did he claimed to be Angel Gabriel, his name being angel Gabriel was the product of imagination of Khadija, Aisha, Mohammed and you Muslims. Show me anywhere in Quran where it was stated that the name of the Angel revealing the Quran to Mohammed was Gabriel. And your explanation on why Christians appear in Quran is irrational, it's against what your belief in Quran is. Quran was written in heaven at the beginning of the world and the name Christians has been in it since then, meaning Allah has known a religion called Christianity since the beginning of the world and you Allah slave are trying to say Allah is wrong |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by worlexy(m): 10:36am On Jun 07, 2019 |
dryakson:Remain blessed too brother. cheers. Just try and read to find out the truth, read the Quran with the intent to learn, not what your imam tells you, and you will find the truth there. After all Quran had already told you to use your own reason not the reason your Imams give you. Remain blessed |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by dryakson(m): 11:04am On Jun 07, 2019 |
worlexy:kk |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by BabyApple(m): 11:40am On Jun 07, 2019 |
worlexy:Okay Thank you. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by alexyontop: 1:06pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
BabyApple: Sir, I have been reading the questions and answers and I have been very enlightened... I am glad we have strong follower of Islam expound the word... I am very excited. The only way to truth is listening taking into consideration somethings... Before I ask some questions, I will like to share somethings about my faith... My Dad was born to a Muslim family, he was among the few who got converted to christianity in the family Trust me there was persecution everywhere, but I never got the chance to ask him his reason of converting to Christianity before he died I got to know a lot of Islam and Christianity in the environment I was living which gave me the chance to choose with no pressure.. You know what I choose Christianity _ here is why From my childhood, I never enjoyed good health... It is always from one sickness to another... God be my witness Iet my tongue cleave to roof of my mouth if I lie. As confused as my parents were, there was no solution I got tired and I prayed a simple prayer in the name of Jesus.. And that was the end of the sickness I was being attacked in the dream frequently, I prayed in the name of Jesus and the next night, he sent bunches of angel in the dream to conquer the attackers, I never felt light Growing up in my teen age I had hernia... To those who know about it, can only be removed through surgery... I also prayed in the name of Jesus and honestly that was the end of it.. Didn't take anything I had asthma, not the serious one though, I must tell you it was longest one he perfected, cos am 31yrs now and I got healed of it barely two yrs ago... I don't know why he took so long but he knows why.. I remembered I was worshiping Son of God 5 yrs ago... That he is lifted high, I never Got reproved or cautioned but the extraordinary happened, I heard the angels singing hallelujah.. I lie not I was worshipping some 6yrs back in my righteous way, and all of a sudden I broke down, I could not stand, I felt a mighty rushing wind and he said so many things and the voice I could grasp was"i have blot out your transgressions" then he brought to my remembrance the sins I already totally forgot and I broke down to tears asking him to forgive me..... I must tell you that was the beginning of new things in my life... I can go on and on about my experiences as a Christian, but there are some I will keep private because some people will never believe it anyways.. Now my question But before then please note, and I mean it from the depth of my heart, I love you and I cherish every point you made.. 1. Do you believe any of my stories(although I don't expect you to) 2. Do you believe in miracles? (I mean in present days and how is done in Islam) 3. I remembered you said that the original Bible is no more... But by all means tell me why Jesus died(if you believe he died).... If not tell me why he was beaten 4. Jesus did all these testimonies, he saved me and more and he promised a lot more when he comes back... If I should convert to your religion, what do I get? Or is it just a command? Brother I have a lot to expound to you.. And you have a lot to tell too.. I'm yours... Let go gently Peace be unto you |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by worlexy(m): 2:43pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
BabyApple:You're welcome. You may also read this book to know more about The Quran, The Bible and Salvation "Anatomy of the Qur'an" by G.J.O. Moshay |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by worlexy(m): 2:44pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
dryakson:You may also read this book to know more about The Quran, The Bible and Salvation "Anatomy of the Qur'an" by G.J.O. Moshay |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by dryakson(m): 3:29pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
worlexy:Lolx. I don't need that bro. A 10yrs old Muslim boy will give u the anatomy of our holy book. Why would I listen to who doesn't understand Arabic? Can the author read and write in Arabic? That is one of the beauty of Islam. U can still see a Holy Qur'an that's written more than 1000yrs ago. I guess u already know the motive of the author. Lolx. Islam is gradually taking over the world. Christians convert to Islam on a daily basis. Watch peace tv Did u know Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world? I can boldly tell u those terrorists u called Muslim are not. They want to tarnish it image motivated by some anti-islam 1 Like |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by BabyApple(m): 4:04pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
worlexy:Is that All? |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by worlexy(m): 4:36pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
dryakson:Let me ask you this Question, where is the Original Quran you claim was written more than 1000 years ago? Was it the one that was published in Heaven on paper with hard cover and descended from Heaven or the Quran that was originally written in pieces and fragments, and on palm branches, camels' ribs and shoulder blade? Or the one that was crammed by some reciters many of whom were killed in the Battle of Yamama by Musaylimah? Or the one that was later compiled after the death of Mohammed who was not alive to verify if what they later compiled in the Quran was the original words that the 'angel' revealed to him. How would anyone take serious the compilation by the people who were not the original recipient of the message and Mohammed was no longer alive to verify it? Also, when Mohammed himself was alive he mentioned four people whose memory of the Quran he said he trusted most: Abdullahi ibn Masud, Salim, Mu'dh bin Jabal and Ubai ibn Kab. All traditions agree that Ibn Masud was the most competent as he was always mentioned first by Mohammed. However, during the compilation of the Quran by Abu Bakr which was later continued by Uthman, the ones in Masud's memory which should be most reliable was ignored. (And you expect us to take the compilation seriously). After the compilation, the Quran was kept in custody of Hafsah. Several differences existed in the compilation kept with Hafsah and the ones in the memory of the four people mentioned above. So no one could verify whether the pieces collected were complete or authentic. Many sects including Shia developed because of these various versions. The disagreement led to some killing one another to defend their versions because of this Uthman gathered the records he could possibly gather, using his own discretion to determine which sayings should be accepted and which to reject and edit. He formed a four-man editorial board headed by Zaid Ibn Thabith to edit the Quran and come out with one copy. Uthman made sure he collected and destroyed all the other manuscripts that others had compiled and were reciting in Syria, Iraq and Armenia Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all other Quranic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt. And this Quran that he ordered Zaid and his editorial board to edit eventually became the authorized version of the Quran kept, not because the other ones are not authentic but because he wanted only one codex to remain. Among the codices destroyed were Ibn Mas'ud 's and Ubay ibn Ka'b 's codex, none of which exist today. Sahih Bukhari Vol 6 Book 60 Hadith 484: Narrated By Anas bin Malik The Prophet said to Ubai, "Allah has ordered me recite Qur'an to you." Ubai asked, "Did Allah mention me by name to you?" The Prophet said, "Allah has mentioned your name to me." On that Ubai started weeping. (The sub-narrator) Qatada added: I have been informed that the Prophet recited: 'Those who disbelieve among the people of the Scripture,"... to Ubai. You can imagine? And this guy's recitation was not later honoured and included, and you expect us to believe that the current Quran is complete? I can go on and on... Now the question is when you said the original Quran is preserved, which one are you referring to? |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by worlexy(m): 4:43pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
dryakson:And on the fact that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, does being the fastest growing religion mean that Islam is the true way? Don't you know that the world tend to embrace lies more than the truth? Matthew 7:13 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it." So don't gloat too much. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by worlexy(m): 4:43pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
BabyApple:For now, yes! |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by dryakson(m): 4:56pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
worlexy:I end this argument with this quote "my people perish due of lack of knowledge" Thanks for not been abusive. Practice ur religion as I wil practice mine. Thanks. Bye |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by worlexy(m): 5:33pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
dryakson:But you've not answered my question on which Quran is original. if you choose not to answer, I assume that you have already seen realised that all what they told you about the Quran being from heaven and having one original copy somewhere is all lies. I pray you will allow the truth to set you free. The truth can only be gotten from the Bible. Allah SWT says: وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ قَبْلِكَ إِلَّا رِجَالًا نُّوحِىٓ إِلَيْهِمْ ۚ فَسْئَلُوٓا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ "And We sent not before you except men to whom We revealed [Our message]. So ask the people of the message if you do not know." (QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 43) Allah SWT says: فَإِنْ كُنْتَ فِى شَكٍّ مِّمَّآ أَنْزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ فَسْئَلِ الَّذِينَ يَقْرَءُونَ الْكِتٰبَ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ ۚ لَقَدْ جَآءَكَ الْحَقُّ مِنْ رَّبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُمْتَرِينَ "So if you are in doubt, about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters." (QS. Yunus 10: Verse 94) ﻛَﺬٰﻟِﻚَ ﻳُﺒَﻴِّﻦُ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪُ ﻟَﻜُﻢْ ﺀَﺍﻳٰﺘِﻪِۦ ﻟَﻌَﻠَّﻜُﻢْ ﺗَﻌْﻘِﻠُﻮﻥَ "Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you might use reason." (QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 242) ﺇِﻥَّ ﺷَﺮَّ ﺍﻟﺪَّﻭَﺍٓﺏِّ ﻋِﻨْﺪَ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪِ ﺍﻟﺼُّﻢُّ ﺍﻟْﺒُﻜْﻢُ ﺍﻟَّﺬِﻳﻦَ ﻟَﺎ ﻳَﻌْﻘِﻠُﻮﻥَ "Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason." (QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 22) Don't be the worst of living creatures. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by alexyontop: 5:19am On Jun 08, 2019 |
alexyontop:dryakson, BabyApple |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by dryakson(m): 5:47am On Jun 08, 2019 |
alexyontop:faith can move mountains. An idol worshiper got healed by strongly believing the idol will healed him. Keep searching for knowledge. I enjoined u to b open minded. Islam believe in Jesus and all the miracle he performed but he(Jesus) said he can do nothing by himself. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by BabyApple(m): 6:15am On Jun 08, 2019 |
alexyontop:Brother Jesus himself was a Muslim like i always say. He doesn't have his own religion nor does he created another religion besides what he meet the prophets that came before him doing. My brother if you feel you are on the straight path , you are free to believe whatever you want to believe but i want you to know one thing for sure and it is the fact that '' In Islam , We dont call people to come and worship anything besides our creator , We worship 1 creator of the universe and that ''Allah''. '' If you feel Jesus is your creator my brother , you are free to worship him but i want you to know one thing '' When Jesus was tempted by the devil to bow down for him or worship him , His response in Luke 4:8 was '' And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve. '' Now you see it is clearly stated by Jesus to worship God. Peace be upon you... |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by alexyontop: 2:21pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
Please give your opinion on this matter 3. you said that the original Bible is no more... But by all means tell me why Jesus died(if you believe he died).... If not tell me why he was beaten BabyApple: |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by BabyApple(m): 2:39pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
alexyontop:My brother even if i give you the right answer straight from the holy quran , you still won't believe but still i will tell you. Allah, may He be exalted, has told us that Jesus was not killed or crucified, and that Allah, may He be exalted, caused someone else to resemble him, and it was this other person whom they killed and crucified, not ‘Jesus (peace be upon him). Our Lord, may He be exalted, has told us that He took him up to Him, and that he will descend at the end of time, when he will kill the pigs, break the cross and rule according to Islam. As for others who claim to be his followers, they differed greatly concerning him. Some of them said that he was God, and some said that he was the son of God! Those who saw ‘Jesus (peace be upon him) being taken up and saw the other person being caused to resemble him were very few, and they are the ones who did not believe that he was anything more than a Prophet and Messenger. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by funbat(m): 8:40pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
OP. do you believe in predestination? |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by BabyApple(m): 9:41pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
funbat:Explain better please. I dont know what you mean by predestination. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by alexyontop: 10:44pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
Was Jesus beaten or persecuted at any time? BabyApple: |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by BabyApple(m): 10:47pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
alexyontop:I may stop responding to you bro. Your questions are Irrelevant. What did you want to do with the prosecution of Jesus or his beaten? |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by funbat(m): 1:35pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
BabyApple:Do you believe that our life is predestined by God |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by sulasa07(m): 1:56pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Originakalokalo:What about those who came b4 Jesus like Adam,Noah,Abraham and several hundreds of million of people,how will they gain eternal life |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by sulasa07(m): 1:58pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
EmperorHarry:Do you know some suicide bomber had the bomb put on them by force or there family were threatened, how do you judge them. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by sulasa07(m): 2:03pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
advocate666:How about people using cow shit and urine to make Agumu(Medicine).What do you say about them? 1 Like |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by advocate666: 2:19pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
sulasa07: Who knows what they worship. Each to their own. Some Budhha followers stick needles into themselves as medicine. All I know is that science is Satanic. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question About Islam by BabyApple(m): 2:19pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
funbat:Yes i do believe. Brother all your sustance. Its not a must you believe it,, not going to argue with you. Take for example , When God has written a sustaines of a thousand dollars for you in a month. Will you just sit down and look at the sky expecting a thousand dollars to drop from the sky? No you won't , You need to do out to search for job or engage yourself in legal business that will earn you that money. My brother by the will of Allah you won't earn less than or more than what has been written in your name weda you like it or not. Have you ever wonder how other billions of creation of God live? Are you the one who take care of them? Brother it is written that if the whole world ask Allah whatever we want and if Allah is to give it to us all each.. It won't drop more than what the head of a needle will drop when the head is put in an ocean. |
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