pazienza:


What are you on about. Your Yoruba leader Tinubu orchestrated your loss of the speaker position, he single handly fought Mulikat nomination to a stand still while backing Tambuwal in attempt to lure him to APC from PDP, which worked. And you want PDP to compensate you with other slots allocated to other zones?

your claims is irrelevant bcs what you are blaming Tinubu for in 2011,is what you are praising yourself and your leaders for doing in 2019 .try something else you are contradicting yourself .

konoplyanka:


It was zoned to SW, But Tambuwal contested and hijacked it from the Sw, using the north and the SE, even though the NW already has the VP, yet you didn't call the NW greedy? can you listen to yourself?

That's a different case entirely. It has nothing to do with party but national assembly politics. If tomorrow they decide they can vote both Senate President and Speaker from PDP instead of APC and you cannot do anything about it.

What I'm concern is that, the party itself is being selfish by zoning it to the Southwest. And that was planned by no other than the national leader Tinubu from the Southwest.

FriendNG:


That's a different case entirely. It has nothing to do with party but national assembly politics. If tomorrow they decide they can vote both Senate President and Speaker from PDP instead of APC and you cannot do anything about it.

What I'm concern is that, the party itself is being selfish by zoning it to the Southwest. And that was planned by no other than the national leader Tinubu from the Southwest.

And you know this how?

Since you know that zoning doesn't matter, then why are you worried? An igbo man could still emerge tomorrow. Why disturb yourself?

FriendNG:



You misread it. I Said it's not zone as such. Meaning it's not zone to northwest by PDP.

It was zone to Southwest not Northwest. What brought Tambuwal is samething that brought Saraki and Dogara.

In 2015 the party zone the SP ticket to NE but NC emerge. It's not the fault of the party.

Samething in the case of Tambuwal in 2011. He contested against the zoning of the party.

If you don't want to read and comprehend then it's your own problem.

bro dont cry more than the bereaved. You re just contradicting yourself. Tambuwal hijacked 2011 ticket zoned to SW with votes from north and south east despite northwest region having vp position. You call southwest greedy but saw nothing wrong in Tambuwal emergence that is double standard.
Mind you Apc is practising the first law of Nature which means self preservation first. South East and South south rejected Apc twice in two election years
do you expect apc to leave their stronghold and be zoning key positions to opposition stronghold which have no value to them
Even if Apc give South East.and south south Senate President and speaker it doesn't mean they will vote massively for the party in 2023.

pazienza:


What PDP regimes exactly?
Let's dissect your lies!

1999- 2003 = SW Presidency SE Senate presidency
2003-2007= SW Presidency SE Senate presidency
2007-2011= SW Speaker SE Deputy Senate presidency

2007-2015= SW ( PDP zoned the speaker slot to the Zone again, but Tinubu with Yoruba APC support decided to turn against Mrs Mulikat, a Yoruba member of the house chosen by PDP and voted Tambuwal from NE instead, because the SW were hateful of GEJ and were looking for reasons to justify their hate for the man, by claiming he denied them presence in the government, when indeed they were the ones who chose Tambuwal over their own chosen daughter.

SE retained Deputy Senate presidency in the same era, as was in 2003-2007.



From the above, it can be seen that Yoruba (SW) were always given higher post in PDP than SE, for while they had Presidency zoned to them for 8yrs( 1999-2007), SE had to make do with the lower Senate presidency for same duration. Also, while they had the speaker position zoned to them by the party for 8yrs(2007-2015) which they only did 4yrs and decided to out of spite against GEJ, sabotage the remaining 4yrs by voting for Tambuwal over PDP annointed candidate Mulikat from Oyo PDP. SE got zones a lower position than Speaker by the PDP in the same 8yrs, ie Deputy Senate presidency. .

Not that I care about APC SE zone crying like babies, because let's face it, we told them that a people who hate your people can never treat you better than they treat your people. When most of them were naively joining Igbo haters to castigate Ndiigbo and supporting Igbophobic policies of APC, thinking they will be compensated by APC, we warned them as well.

To most Ndiigbo, what is happening to APC SE is Karma and we are actually basking in Schadenfreude feelings on their behalf right now. At least the blatant lies of if SE had produced an APC Senator that they would have been made Senate President and all other lies that were fed those silly Igbo APC card carrying members in 2015, have now been exposed like a lie we(Biafrans) had always known it to be, and warned them about.

always on point man.

konoplyanka:


Go and read Tambuwal's interview, Even if the all the ACN reps voted for mulikat, tambuwal would still win. The ibos in PDP connived with tambuwal just to get the deputy speaker.


"Let me tell you if you want to know; truly, Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu supported me to become the Speaker of the House of Representatives using the ACN bloc in the House of Representatives. If you go today and dig out the records and subtract the number of ACN members that supported me and give it to Mulikat, she couldn’t have won. Go and do the mathematics. I got the majority of the PDP; I got CPC, I got ANPP. Assuming that you go and take out the entire number of ACN members who supported me

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/02/my-transactions-with-tinubu-tambuwal/"


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/02/my-transactions-with-tinubu-tambuwal/

cc: FriendNG

Can you get the facts and figures backing your claims of SE PDP members of the house of rep voting for Tambuwal instead of Mulikat?

I await your factual proof and not Tambuwal words. Thank you as you comply
It would also be nice if you can get us proof of SE members visibly campaigning against Mulikat and for Tambuwal.
The ball is in your court now. The burden of proof is on your shoulders.

ORIENTATION101:
bro dont cry more than the bereaved. You re just contradicting yourself. Tambuwal hijacked 2011 ticket zoned to SW with votes from north and south east despite northwest region having vp position. You call southwest greedy but saw nothing wrong in Tambuwal emergence that is double standard.
Mind you Apc is practising the first law of Nature which means self preservation first. South East and South south rejected Apc twice in two election years
do you expect apc to leave their stronghold and be zoning key positions to opposition stronghold which have no value to them
Even if Apc give South East.and south south Senate President and speaker it doesn't mean they will vote massively for the party in 2023.

Where is your evidence that SE voted for Tambuwal and not Mulikat.

Moreover, PDP as a party officially zoned the position to SW. Let APC officially zone the position to SE, let's now worry about a Saraki or Tambuwal rocking the party zoning system to emerge.

pazienza:

Where is your evidence that SE voted for Tambuwal and not Mulikat.

Moreover, PDP as a party officially zoned the position to SW. Let APC officially zone the position to SE, let's now worry about a Saraki or Tambuwal rocking the party zoning system to emerge.

Stop wasting your time.


This people are preparing for a second genocide against Ndiiigbo.

Sometimes, I say why are Igbo people blessed with dunces? i.e ifeanyi, okorocha etc


Even, wen people spit in your face, u still want to talk calmly and humanly to dem.


This people are out to destroy u, even created a party for u.


Everything they do is about u, yet u still dont get it.

If u go to Ifeanyi Ubah mind, he thinks APC value him.

Okorocha was used and Ifeanyi is also being used.

Any igbo person in APC is used and dumped. U cannot con people that have conned u since the 1960s.

ORIENTATION101:
bro dont cry more than the bereaved. You re just contradicting yourself. Tambuwal hijacked 2011 ticket zoned to SW with votes from north and south east despite northwest region having vp position. You call southwest greedy but saw nothing wrong in Tambuwal emergence that is double standard.
Mind you Apc is practising the first law of Nature which means self preservation first. South East and South south rejected Apc twice in two election years
do you expect apc to leave their stronghold and be zoning key positions to opposition stronghold which have no value to them
Even if Apc give South East.and south south Senate President and speaker it doesn't mean they will vote massively for the party in 2023.

I am not contradicting anything. I explain everything clearly. You can choose to understand or block your brain. I don't have to educate the other guy on difference between what the party condones & hijacking, and then exhaust another energy to educate you also.

It's on record in 2015 the senate president was zoned to NE but Saraki hijacked it. You can't blame the party on that. Samething that happens in 2011 with Tambuwal. But that's not the intend of PDP.

While in this case, APC itself is condoning the selfishness cutc of Tinubu.

Believe and comprehend what you understand from my posts based on your selfish understanding.

seanfer:


During PDP's regimes the SE was the Deputy Senate President and also Deputy Speaker even when the SW was not given any position. Nobody called them selfish.. Ike ekweremadu and Emeka Ihedioha.

PDP zoned speakership to the west ....but the west dominated ACN rejected that and voted tambuwal ...so who do u blame

mrvitalis:


PDP zoned speakership to the west ....but the west dominated ACN rejected that and voted tambuwal ...so who do u blame

Go and look for Tambuwals interview after the election. He said that even if all the ACN members voted for Mulikat He will still win the election because the SE house members voted for him against the party zoning. So why are you guys shouting now when the thing didn’t go your way?

seanfer:


Go and look for Tambuwals interview after the election. He said that even if all the ACN members voted for Mulikat He will still win the election because the SE house members voted for him against the party zoning. So why are you guys shouting now when the thing didn’t go your way?

Provide prove of vote

Thats not even the point ...the party did its part thats what im saying

FriendNG:



I am not contradicting anything. I explain everything clearly. You can choose to understand or block your brain. I don't have to educate the other guy on difference between what the party condones & hijacking, and then exhaust another energy to educate you also.

It's on record in 2015 the senate president was zoned to NE but Saraki hijacked it. You can't blame the party on that. Samething that happens in 2011 with Tambuwal. But that's not the intend of PDP.

While in this case, APC itself is condoning the selfishness cutc of Tinubu.

Believe and comprehend what you understand from my posts based on your selfish understanding.

The greatest threat to the Igbos & SS are Yoruba people and not Fulani.

2023, we will gang up with the North and keep power there to teach the Yoruba people to be politically content & selfless.

If Yoruba people refused to be selfless, we will help the North retain power at the center forever while serving as the VP until the Yoruba people learn not to steal the rights of the Biafrans.

Warship:


The greatest threat to the Igbos & SS are Yoruba people and not Fulani.

2023, we will gang up with the North and keep power there to teach the Yoruba people to be politically content & selfless.

If Yoruba people refused to be selfless, we will help the North retain power at the center forever while serving as the VP until the Yoruba people learn not to steal the rights of the Biafrans.

You teamed up with Tambuwal in 2011 against Yoruba that's not new. You did it in 1960, 1979, 83. It's not new.

mrvitalis:

Provide prove of vote

Thats not even the point ...the party did its part thats what im saying

You are just proving stubborn.. Deduct ACN votes from the votes Tambuwal got and you will know that the SE PDP also Voted against their party zoning.... Stop making excuses and accept the fact.. Politics is all about interest SE did not support APC interests and they can't gain from where they didn't work.

seanfer:


You are just proving stubborn.. Deduct ACN votes from the votes Tambuwal got and you will know that the SE PDP also Voted against their party zoning.... Stop making excuses and accept the fact.. Politics is all about interest SE did not support APC interests and they can't gain from where they didn't work.

Ibos supported Tambuwal and took the dsp.

schoolboij:


Ibos supported Tambuwal and took the dsp.

They go against the PDP Zoning and nobody called them betrayal

seanfer:


During PDP's regimes the SE was the Deputy Senate President and also Deputy Speaker even when the SW was not given any position. Nobody called them selfish.. Ike ekweremadu and Emeka Ihedioha.

What about the north that were senate President and speaker.. na only igbos you see?

You guys are so hypocritical.

PDP's zoned the speakership position to you sw but your own tinubu played politics with the north and sold off the position to tambowal,a northerner. You guys cheered tinubu then.
But here you are, pointing one finger@ the igbos not knowing 4 are pointing right back@ you.

schoolboij:


You teamed up with Tambuwal in 2011 against Yoruba that's not new. You did it in 1960, 1979, 83. It's not new.

Wasn't tinubu the one that brought tambowal?

seanfer:


During PDP's regimes the SE was the Deputy Senate President and also Deputy Speaker even when the SW was not given any position. Nobody called them selfish.. Ike ekweremadu and Emeka Ihedioha.

The VP, Sambo and Speaker, Tambuwal were also from North West under Jonathan; as well as the DSP and DS from South East.

Justiceleague1:

What about the north that were senate President and speaker.. na only igbos you see?

You guys are so hypocritical.

PDP's zoned the speakership position to you sw but your own tinubu played politics with the north and sold off the position to tambowal,a northerner. You guys cheered tinubu then.
But here you are, pointing one finger@ the igbos not knowing 4 are pointing right back@ you.

Why are you crying like a new born Baby when you pitch your tenth with PDP... Now that APC is in power they are free to Zone their positions to the Zones that accept them with open hands...

seanfer:


Why are you crying like a new born Baby when you pitch your tenth with PDP... Now that APC is in power they are free to Zone their positions to the Zones that accept them with open hands...

I am not crying O,you is the one crying.
I am not Igbo in the 1st place but I am for fair play

Justiceleague1:


I am not crying O,you is the one crying.
I am not Igbo in the 1st place but I am for fair play

Ahmad Lawan just won the Senate President election

pazienza:


What PDP regimes exactly?
Let's dissect your lies!

1999- 2003 = SW Presidency SE Senate presidency
2003-2007= SW Presidency SE Senate presidency
2007-2011= SW Speaker SE Deputy Senate presidency

2007-2015= SW ( PDP zoned the speaker slot to the Zone again, but Tinubu with Yoruba APC support decided to turn against Mrs Mulikat, a Yoruba member of the house chosen by PDP and voted Tambuwal from NE instead, because the SW were hateful of GEJ and were looking for reasons to justify their hate for the man, by claiming he denied them presence in the government, when indeed they were the ones who chose Tambuwal over their own chosen daughter.

SE retained Deputy Senate presidency in the same era, as was in 2003-2007.



From the above, it can be seen that Yoruba (SW) were always given higher post in PDP than SE, for while they had Presidency zoned to them for 8yrs( 1999-2007), SE had to make do with the lower Senate presidency for same duration. Also, while they had the speaker position zoned to them by the party for 8yrs(2007-2015) which they only did 4yrs and decided to out of spite against GEJ, sabotage the remaining 4yrs by voting for Tambuwal over PDP annointed candidate Mulikat from Oyo PDP. SE got zones a lower position than Speaker by the PDP in the same 8yrs, ie Deputy Senate presidency. .

Not that I care about APC SE zone crying like babies, because let's face it, we told them that a people who hate your people can never treat you better than they treat your people. When most of them were naively joining Igbo haters to castigate Ndiigbo and supporting Igbophobic policies of APC, thinking they will be compensated by APC, we warned them as well. But we have to set the record straight.

To most Ndiigbo, what is happening to APC SE is Karma and we are actually basking in Schadenfreude feelings on their behalf right now. At least the blatant lies of if SE had produced an APC Senator that they would have been made Senate President and all other lies that they were feeding those silly Igbo APC card carrying members in 2015, have now been exposed like lies we(Biafrans) had always known them. to be, and warned them about.

That there is a serious allegation that has deviated from the facts! ...And please stop quoting them as facts, you will serve everyone better if you express them as your opinion (which you are entitled to).

seanfer:


Ahmad Lawan just won the Senate President election

Congratulations

pazienza:


Can you get the facts and figures backing your claims of SE PDP members of the house of rep voting for Tambuwal instead of Mulikat?

I await your factual proof and not Tambuwal words. Thank you as you comply
It would also be nice if you can get us proof of SE members visibly campaigning against Mulikat and for Tambuwal.
The ball is in your court now. The burden of proof is on your shoulders.

My fact and figure was stated by tambuwal himself and the fact that an igbo man was his deputy. that was the deal.

Was it tinubu who made southeast reps to vote for Tambuwal

Between 2011 and 2015 what position did NE get? Can anyone tell us

konoplyanka:


My fact and figure was stated by tambuwal himself and the fact that an igbo man was his deputy. that was the deal.

In other words, you have no facts to back your claims. Good to know.
.
An Igbo being his deputy doesn't translate to Igbo reps voting unanimously for him. Ekwueme was Shagari vice in 1979 and 1983, yet the Igbo consensus candidate who cleared more than 85% of Votes in SE then was Azikiwe.

Tambuwal having an Igbo deputy just as Shagari having an Igbo deputy, does not in anyway mean that he was an Igbo supported candidate.
Thanks.

pazienza:


In other words, you have no facts to back your claims. Good to know.
.
An Igbo being his deputy doesn't translate to Igbo reps voting unanimously for him. Ekwueme was Shagari vice in 1979 and 1983, yet the Igbo consensus candidate who cleared more than 85% of Votes in SE then was Azikiwe.

Tambuwal having an Igbo deputy just as Shagari having an Igbo deputy, does not in anyway mean that he was an Igbo supported candidate.
Thanks.

In 2011, who did the Ibo reps vote for?