martineverest:
waste of time..who will use a phone without Facebook,Google, Snapchat,Twitter, whatsapp, Instagram, YouTube,Skype etc?..the world uses huawei phones cos of Google's playstore and because it uses american software.whonwill buy a phone with Chinese os apart from china?

tizen OS(Samsung), windows phone and blackberry is were strong enough but couldn't penetrate..don't forget microsoft is the largest software makers ,Samsung is the biggest smartphone company and blackberry had the most secured is in the world

change is inevitable, lets watch and see Whatsapp plans running ads from next year which means it will consume more data. Nigerians i know will jump on any alternative that provide similar functions and the os as it was said can run android apps also so there is no qualms

Kamxin:


US monopoly of giving hardworking people a chance must end. Just wake up

For instance the person that developed whatsapp is not an American, same with most of the inventors.

China is looking for quick money thats why they banned google and still remain the biggest beneficiary of google products.

When and how they banned Google, if they do as you claimed, why huawei a Chinese company wants to develop their own OS outside Google now? 2. Why Google just informed then that come 90 days they won't all huawei to operate on their own window again? Will you write quit notice for tenant that doesn't rent room in your house?

You don't understand politics that trump is playing. I rest my case

Kamxin:


Do you know that your first three apps are banned in China?

Reason: To secure communism and give huawei, wechat, weibo an edge in the toughest market on earth

So it is simply logical to ban chinese products to secure the future for the people in US.

So china can not close its market and at the same time be the highest beneficiary of open market.

People who have ventured into business before like trump knows it must be sorted out first.

Imagine china being the highest beneficiary of facebook and Google and yet ban them.

Enough of wickedness

Fair enough, but ban them in the US alone but do not use the so called
"long arm jurisdiction".

bendike:

Google map
whatsapp
chrome
zenith bank app
gt bank app
fcmb app
flightdata24
bolt app
huawai app gallery
youtube
booking.com
??
I agree google is involved in most but there are alternatives eg for google maps you have yandex.

yandex is russian and it's not even close to bing map or Nokia map

do u think it will be easy for zenith bank,GTB and fcmb bnks to develop apps for Huawei even when they don't have windows 10 version with 800m illion users?

Huawei, make una bless my Nova 3i with this OS na.

Harmoneasy:
this is called resilience, never give up strategy the only way to be successful, Google is actually having a rethink right now

They practically told Trump yesterday that banning them from dealing with Huawei was counter productive as Huawei would develop their own OS.

martineverest:
waste of time..who will use a phone without Facebook,Google, Snapchat,Twitter, whatsapp, Instagram, YouTube,Skype etc?..the world uses huawei phones cos of Google's playstore and because it uses american software.whonwill buy a phone with Chinese os apart from china?

tizen OS(Samsung), windows phone and blackberry is were strong enough but couldn't penetrate..don't forget microsoft is the largest software makers ,Samsung is the biggest smartphone company and blackberry had the most secured is in the world

It's an open source OS on which you can install and use those apps but the devices won't be coming with them pre-installed.

ojuu4u:




Keep on thinking as somebody who has accepted not liberate oneself from dungeon, anything that has beginning must have end, few years back Nothing like FB etc yet it wasn't the end of human race. Oga any form of monopoly must be broken one day. For me I biliv its the beginning of end of US monopoly on world "Take it, Leave it".



U think other western world think the way you do,
I biliv you didn't read it that huawei has started 5G in UK and that Russia will start theirs soonest these are just two among others nations of the world and that huawei is the sole company contracted it for.

western world is United..huawei 5G in Europe was allowed in countries like Germany and UK cos they forced Huawei to sign privacy agreement and the way trump threatened Germany got Germans angry.also the 5G will be controlled by Europe Nd in Europe and not china..unlike software,where evwrything will be controlled by huawei china.Europe is the Huawei biggest market for Huawei smart phones and the operating system used is android(American) .didn't u hear that Europeans and asians stopped buying huaweis products after the ban?

IsaAbubakar:


doomed to fail

sad reality

this is just a media blah blah blah to keep the hopes of their remaining investors and shareholders alive and probably to scare Google on reconsidering their ban

Unfortunately America is too big for these petty propaganda

Ok na. We will be here when you would eat your words.

Mac2016:

With the fact that this is a Chinese company and Chinese will buy Chinese plus If they can dominate africa. That's good enough to be a global player.
Hongmeng will succeed just advise Google to keep its ban on Huawei.
Sounded death knell to Google long time dominance

Lol, the question is how many products does Huawei sell in Africa to begin with, it's the smaller Chinese companies that sell most of the units in Africa and it's a very competitive market too. What you are not putting into consideration is that other phone makers from around the world are also watching this drama, and they are developing products that would overtake Huawei, those people are not sleeping too.

Their market is in Europe and Europe isn't ready to so away with Gmail, FB, Gmaps and most especially "YouTube", just for Huawei. They'd would switch to another product that offers them these apps.

It is a good thing that Huawei has developed their OS and I really hate monopolies but the truth is Huawei isn't ready for this neither is the world ready yet.. by the time Huawei is ready Android would be much stronger and with a wilder reach

And trust me Google/Android are working with other phone manufacturer to achieve this, they're not just public about it yet. As for the Chinese market, they can keep it America isn't losing much from it anyways, they've never had the Chinese mobile market

ojuu4u:



When and how they banned Google, if they do as you claimed, why huawei a Chinese company wants to develop their own OS outside Google now? 2. Why Google just informed then that come 90 days they won't all huawei to operate on their own window again? Will you write quit notice for tenant that doesn't rent room in your house?

You don't understand politics that trump is playing. I rest my case

So I need to tell you that Google, facebook is banned in China.

Call it politics or whatever. Anybody that banned Facebook and google has borrowed a debt that must be repaid one day. and the date is here

prodigyhenry:
As much as I love the never say die spirit if Huawei the sad reality is that they can't survive this for long. Google and America has them by the balls. The question is who are those who buys their phones besides their market in China,. The other continents would not go near their products except probably Africa. Because America has so bossed over the mobile application and software market that it would be crazy for anybody from Europe, Australia, the 2 Americas and most part of Asia to use phones without Facebook, WhatsApp, Google and many other application compatibility.

And to further aggravate this, America controls the media, they'd make everyone not using those applications look like they are missing everything on earth. And the advantage chinese mobiles have had over the years is providing great technology for cheap price, cheapness isn't an incentive for people living in the continents I mentioned earlier except Africa due to poverty. People in Europe, Australia, the Americas and parts of Asia would rather buy an expensive phone that gives them access to the best there is online than buy a cheap phone that offers very little in comparison. Only Africans don't have a choice and even at that those of us who can afford it would still go for the Android phones. That's why Huawei are trying to consolidate the African market but it's a pity Africa can't save them. They need the rest of the world.

This is what I think would happen, because Google would also suffer since they would lose 5 of their biggest 6 OS users. They would try to raise up another country to take over from China in mobile phone production and my guess is India, because of the population, poverty, and the great education they have in India this makes India ripe for such venture. Nigeria might have been a great option too but sadly we're not serious and once they succeed in making great Android phones with cheap prices. Then forget about Oak OS, it would die out

Both Google and Huawei would lose a lot but Huawei might lose far more in the end

Nahhh...New Huawei devices would not be coming with all those Western apps but you can install them on the devices. The Huawei OS is a forked Android OS designed to bycutt and possibly beat the Google Android in the near future.

martineverest:
u cleau don't have good knowledge of operating system and developers..ask Ur self what made the most secured and beat OSes, blackberry and windows phone fail?

don't forget microsoft is the biggest software company in the world and blackberry is the king of operating system security

You and your nairaland mates defending China and USA companies what have you archived in life?

DeejaywonDJ1:
You and your nairaland mates defending China and USA companies what have you archived in life?

very foolish statement from a kid

Henri8:

Nahhh...New Huawei devices would not be coming with all those Western apps but you can install them on the devices. The Huawei OS is a forked Android OS designed to bycutt and possibly beat the Google Android in the near future.

We still don't know the limits of the Oak OS until it launches so let's wait and see and if it is true that you can install those apps then the western software engineers would be working on closing that access I think

martineverest:
very foolish statement from a kid

Thank God I'm a Kid but old enough to be building my own empire empire rather than stay online arguing on what won't benefit or add value to my life and country. Moreover, you don't even know anything about tech at all. You're not successful in any ramifications but beefing success

martineverest:
very foolish statement from a kid

How successful are you? What have you ever achieved in your life? Have you been successful before?

martineverest:
waste of time..who will use a phone without Facebook,Google, Snapchat,Twitter, whatsapp, Instagram, YouTube,Skype etc?..the world uses huawei phones cos of Google's playstore and because it uses american software.whonwill buy a phone with Chinese os apart from china?

tizen OS(Samsung), windows phone and blackberry is were strong enough but couldn't penetrate..don't forget microsoft is the largest software makers ,Samsung is the biggest smartphone company and blackberry had the most secured is in the world

Na only you don talk sense for this thread.

OrestesDante:


If I no buy huawei again after this one I'm using make I no wetin cause am

am with you bro
America thinks they are the olympians while everyone else is mortal
unleash the dragon.
the eagle is afraid

Kamxin:



So I need to tell you that Google, facebook is banned in China.

Call it politics or whatever. Anybody that banned Facebook and google has borrowed a debt that must be repaid one day. and the date is here

Am sure u ve read another post here on nairaland that ,US official write to delay restrictions and that any restrictions will certain favour huawei.


One day you will wake up from deception

louie3:

Na only you don talk sense for this thread.

thanks..

Kamxin:


Do you know that your first three apps are banned in China?

Reason: To secure communism and give huawei, wechat, weibo an edge in the toughest market on earth

So it is simply logical to ban chinese products to secure the future for the people in US.

So china can not close its market and at the same time be the highest beneficiary of open market.

People who have ventured into business before like trump knows it must be sorted out first.

Imagine china being the highest beneficiary of facebook and Google and yet ban them.

Enough of wickedness

Enough of your ignorance.

China did not ban Google and FB...
They left the market when they couldn't cope with Chinese law... Do your research and allow ignorance to sleep

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prodigyhenry:


It's you that doesn't understand what's going on here. It isn't about creating an alternative that's very easy. It's about acceptability. Lemme give you an example, can you use a mobile phone without access to YouTube?, So you know the billions, yes billions of videos you suddenly don't have access to. China would of course make an alternative but they can never get that number of videos in the next 20 years. To state with, most of the content makers would be speaking Chinese 90% of the Chinese speakers are in China, how's a video in Chinese useful for you?..

Look, I can't even type long, all these things Huawei are doing is just initial gra gra, they are on panicked mode right now and they doing all to convince their investors that they are alright but they are not..

It would take at least 5 years for their OS to become acceptable and by that time their Asian neighbors would have made gadgets that are cheap and offer Android OS.. so it's a lose-lose for Huawei. Its nor just a battle against Google it's a battle against the while Internet. America controls all

Bro, most of the videos on YouTube was uploaded by someone. Just imagine Hauwei paying anybody that upload a video on their own youtube-like app?...Within 2years , all those videos on YouTube will find its way to Huawei YouTube-like app

prodigyhenry:




Lol, the question is how many products does Huawei sell in Africa to begin with, it's the smaller Chinese companies that sell most of the units in Africa and it's a very competitive market too. What you are not putting into consideration is that other phone makers from around the world are also watching this drama, and they are developing products that would overtake Huawei, those people are not sleeping too.

Their market is in Europe and Europe isn't ready to so away with Gmail, FB, Gmaps and most especially "YouTube", just for Huawei. They'd would switch to another product that offers them these apps.

It is a good thing that Huawei has developed their OS and I really hate monopolies but the truth is Huawei isn't ready for this neither is the world ready yet.. by the time Huawei is ready Android would be much stronger and with a wilder reach

And trust me Google/Android are working with other phone manufacturer to achieve this, they're not just public about it yet. As for the Chinese market, they can keep it America isn't losing much from it anyways, they've never had the Chinese mobile market

Nice and informative analysis. Thanks for your time

omoadeleye:




guy, you are just hoping, this can never happen in reality, big companies with different OS, have tried their best and they all failed wholefully, you can even see for yourself that is only common whatsapp, an ordinary app that wrecked the almighty blackberry, that boast of high security, so what do you expect from Huwai, is it because of their device? Their success in having a huge sale for their products can be traced to Google, so is good that Huwai want to try their best to stay relevant, but i can assure you that this effort is not enought, Google is known for both operations and business stratrgies wise, so Huwai can never win this race against Google, that is the fact, they can still be patronise by their contry, cause majority of their apps, like QQ, WeChat et al, will surely work well on their new OS, but how would you feel, if you can't whatsapp on your hungmehng or oak os device?, you cant just be browsing and chatting on facebook only on the browser when you know that their apps exist for convienieces, imagine, i can't whatapp now, and am not feeling okay, because of that, cause of my spoilt android, so bro, try and think twice.

Blackberry was pure unrefined shiit. Mentioning BB in the same sentence as Huawei is travesty. Blackberry that couldn't fix their terrible battery, take close to 1hr to boot charge like snail and discharge like purge. How that shiit got users was mainly due to Western media ordinary tecno killed blackberry in Nigeria. Huawei make far superior phones and innovations to Samsung and IPhone

bendike:


Yes i am sentimental and it is my choice to be. You have no right to call me ignorant because of my choice. I think that is very rude of you!

The reason why I called you ignorant is not an insult but the fact.

You can't be hailing huawei and condemning US while using a huawei device that runs on virtually everything from the US.

Go and use the latest huawei device that runs on its own OS when it comes out to show your sentimental support.

martineverest:
yandex is russian and it's not even close to bing map or Nokia map

do u think it will be easy for zenith bank,GTB and fcmb bnks to develop apps for Huawei even when they don't have windows 10 version with 800m illion users?

The huawei OS i understand will be open source android based and hence existing android apps will surely work on it. Your bank apps and others will work. After all people root their devices and install open source android OS for different reasons.

poetictwenty:


Bro, most of the videos on YouTube was uploaded by someone. Just imagine Hauwei paying anybody that upload a video on their own youtube-like app?...Within 2years , all those videos on YouTube will find its way to Huawei YouTube-like app

Google how much is the net worth of Huawei and also Google how many videos are on YouTube. After that calculate each video but just 10 dollars let's see how much would Huawei have left.

Beside Google already pays YouTubers so that's nothing new to start with, and that your business model can only work for new videos what happens to videos from 15-20years on YouTube?

prodigyhenry:

Google how much is the net worth of Huawei and also Google how many videos are on YouTube. After that calculate each video but just 10 dollars let's see how much would Huawei have left.

Beside Google already pays YouTubers so that's nothing new to start with, and that your business model can only work for new videos what happens to videos from 15-20years on YouTube?

for how long has YouTube been in existence?

i just laughed at many who just think Huawei is just into Smartphone and gadget alone....

Huawei has many other devices used especially in Africa, Nigeria to be precise.... Ranging from Modems, Hubs, Switches, Routers, Data Center, wan, lan, and wlan, to wireless network among others.....

In Nigeria, 75% of the Routers sold by network provider for internet connection are Huawei products.... mifi, wifi, routers.. etc... and it's the same all over the world.

So you guys should not think it's only Smartphones and Gadgets Huawei is into.....

do you guys know that 35% of iPhone users are in China.... one Country having 35% of users of a particular product while the rest 289 or more Country including US, UK, Russian and others sharing the 65%....... do the maths.

on Android OS Users in China is about 33% of the total in the world.... ..

So if Huawei perfect it's new OS and Chinese Government ban other OS like IOS and Android in their country.... do the maths of the implications on both companies economic Slash....

bendike:

The huawei OS i understand will be open source android based and hence existing android apps will surely work on it. Your bank apps and others will work. After all people root their devices and install open source android OS for different reasons.

they will if the banks allows u to download their apps apart from playstore...most banks don't allow users to download their app outside playstore xosnof security