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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:07am On Jun 15, 2019
Only Ethiopia (whose gov goes to great length to hide) has about the same scale of ethnic strife in a supposedly peaceful nation.
You cannot have 200m or 100M extremely poor people and avoid conflict.
The conflict is basically a food fight.
A resource fight.
tylann:


Ethnic conflicts occur daily in Nigeria stop being a hypocrite

2007/08 post election violence was a mistake that Kenya learnt from

2017 was just protests and demonstrations nothing else

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:12am On Jun 15, 2019
obaaderemi:
Rvp in private curses his government in real life due to the exposure here but will come here and lie to himself and the other Little Indians to give some cold comfort. He has shown himself off as the official liar and idiot of nairaland.

Their agriculture data collection is worse than that of any other country in Africa. Did you know only 10% of milk produced in Kenya passes through the formal sector?
Meaning the real figures of milk production could be fake as well, which also translates to lesser GDP figures been calculated by you.
u recall how Kaz exposed kenya with facts and figures on how Kenyan airways only owns 3 aircrafts out off all the 40fleets of crafts of which 20 is leased?
how Algeria1, exposed this tiny and irrelevant country for having only 6000km of paved roads.?
or how I and u exposed them in many occasions?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:13am On Jun 15, 2019
68816419:

firstly, have u accepted the fact you lied about your Data collection, that you guys never had any data information in regards to your agricultural sectors and that your farmers never had any records for the past 30 years?
if you accept , we can now proceed to fertilizer sectors.
The idiot is talking about fertilizer when the whole world knows Kenya's soil is one of the poorest in the Africa. Plus the fact that their arable land is a sixth of Nigeria's arable land despite their useless country being half the size of Nigeria. grin So who is going to need fertilizer more? And yet their fertilizer use is still neck to neck with Nigeria's own per hectare use.He keeps mocking his country publicly. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:17am On Jun 15, 2019
68816419:

Meaning the real figures of milk production could be fake as well, which also translates to lesser GDP figures been calculated by you.
u recall how Kaz exposed kenya with facts and figures on how Kenyan airways only owns 3 aircrafts out off all the 40fleets of crafts of which 20 is leased?
how Algeria1, exposed this tiny and irrelevant country for having only 6000km of paved roads.?
or how I and u exposed them in many occasions?
Na so now. grin Everything about Kenya is lies. That country is one of the top five poorest country in Africa if true facts emerge. That RIP guy is a fool.He keeps pushing us to expose his country and I am sure other Little Indians resent him by now. A classic fool in word and indeed. cheesy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:19am On Jun 15, 2019
So Nigeria is the garden of Eden that doesn't require fertilizer despite the land being farmed for centuries now. Just Urea smiley. I am telling you there are many approaches to finding out GDP. You've failed the input approach already.

Kenya agriculture is world-class. That is how we managed to get 25B dollars from such a small arable land.

obaaderemi:
The idiot is talking about fertilizer when the whole world knows Kenya's soil is one of the poorest in the Africa. Plus the fact that their arable land is a sixth of Nigeria's arable land despite their useless country being half the size of Nigeria. grin So who is going to need fertilizer more? And yet their fertilizer use is still neck to neck with Nigeria's own per hectare use.He keeps mocking his country publicly. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 9:20am On Jun 15, 2019
tylann:
https://medium.com/vox-nigeria/another-day-another-sad-story-of-violent-ethnic-conflict-in-lagos-dcc0b96089e

Some people are lying here
This idiot is here with his stupidity again. Someone who's ashamed to mention his country in a public forum is here with another old news grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:21am On Jun 15, 2019
Excuse moi, you will really have to scroll down to find Kenya on this list .grin grin
Countries Ranked By Size Of Arable Land
9 Nigeria
30.5
million
hectares
2003

10 Argentina
27.9
million
hectares
2003
Emerging
markets
average
27.09
million
hectares
2003
11 Mexico
24.8
million
hectares
2003
12 Turkey
23.83
million
hectares
2005
13 Indonesia 23 million
hectares 2005
14 Kazakhstan
22.36
million
hectares
2005
Non-
religious
countries
average
21.58
million
hectares
2003
15 Pakistan
21.27
million
hectares
2005
16 France
18.51
million
hectares
2005
South
and Central
Asia average
17.85
million
hectares
2003
17 Sudan 17 million
hectares 2003
Religious
countries
average
16.34
million
hectares
2003
18 Iran
16.1
million
hectares
2005
Former
Soviet
republics
average
15.99
million
hectares
2005
19 South
Africa
14.75
million
hectares
2003
Cold
countries
average
14.64
million
hectares
2003
20 Niger
14.48
million
hectares
2003
21 Thailand
14.13
million
hectares
2003
22 Spain
13.7
million
hectares
2005
23 Poland
12.14
million
hectares
2005
24 Germany
11.9
million
hectares
2005
Eastern
Europe
average
11.83
million
hectares
2005
High
income OECD
countries
average
11.5
million
hectares
2005
Former
British
colonies
average
11.18
million
hectares
2003
25 Ethiopia
11.06
million
hectares
2003
26 Burma
10.09
million
hectares
2003
Sparsely
populated
countries
average
9.43
million
hectares
2003
27 Romania
9.29
million
hectares
2005
28 Morocco
8.48
million
hectares
2003
East Asia
and Pacific
average
8.17
million
hectares
2003
Heavily
indebted
countries
average
7.96
million
hectares
2003
29 Bangladesh
7.96
million
hectares
2005
30 Afghanistan
7.91
million
hectares
2003
31 Italy
7.74
million
hectares
2005
32 Algeria
7.54
million
hectares
2003
Europe
average
7.22
million
hectares
2005
failed
states average
7.08
million
hectares
2003
33 Congo,
DR.
6.7
million
hectares
2003
34 Vietnam
6.6
million
hectares
2005
OPEC
countries
average
6.55
million
hectares
2003
Christian
countries
average
6.39
million
hectares
2003
35 Cameroon
5.96
million
hectares
2003
Hot
countries
average
5.78
million
hectares
2003
36 Iraq
5.75
million
hectares
2003
37 United
Kingdom
5.73
million
hectares
2005
38 Philippines
5.7
million
hectares
2003
Muslim
countries
average
5.6
million
hectares
2003
39 Belarus
5.46
million
hectares
2005
40 Zambia
5.26
million
hectares
2003
41 Uganda
5.2
million
hectares
2003
Catholic
countries
average
5.2
million
hectares
2003
NATO
average
4.98
million
hectares
2005
42 Syria
4.87
million
hectares
2005
43 Burkina
Faso
4.84
million
hectares
2003
44 Mali
4.8
million
hectares
2005
45 Uzbekistan
4.7
million
hectares
2003
46 Kenya
4.65
million
hectares

2003
https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Agriculture/Arable-land/Hectares
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:22am On Jun 15, 2019
You first tell us Nigeria methodology for Tomatos. Our milk industry is easy to measure. We have easily the largest herd of exotic cattle in Africa. Formally marketed milk delivered to processors already is 650M litres.
68816419:

Meaning the real figures of milk production could be fake as well, which also translates to lesser GDP figures been calculated by you.
u recall how Kaz exposed kenya with facts and figures on how Kenyan airways only owns 3 aircrafts out off all the 40fleets of crafts of which 20 is leased?
how Algeria1, exposed this tiny and irrelevant country for having only 6000km of paved roads.?
or how I and u exposed them in many occasions?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:24am On Jun 15, 2019
obaaderemi:
The idiot is talking about fertilizer when the whole world knows Kenya's soil is one of the poorest in the Africa. Plus the fact that their arable land is a sixth of Nigeria's arable land despite their useless country being half the size of Nigeria. grin So who is going to need fertilizer more? And yet their fertilizer use is still neck to neck with Nigeria's own per hectare use.He keeps mocking his country publicly. grin
common sense is not common now a days

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:26am On Jun 15, 2019
68816419:
common sense is not common now a days

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:29am On Jun 15, 2019
Now that mitigate some of it. So you've got a startling 30M hectares of arable land (no 9 worldwide) - with 1.5M tonnes of fertilizer smiley - what is the per acre application of fertilizer(urea) again- and then you somehow beat all those countries - to become 4th largest agriculture produce in world - and yet nobody has ever seen a ship full of Nigeria food. Pick any of those countries - US, Brazil, Ukraine, Indonesia - even Kenya - there are thousands of ships now - with their food.

In mitigation, you can claim the fact that nearly all 200M Nigerians are openly defecating on the land after a heavy meal of fufu, has produced one of the most successfully organically farmed agriculture.

obaaderemi:
https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Agriculture/Arable-land/Hectares

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 9:33am On Jun 15, 2019
68816419:

common sense is not common now a days

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:39am On Jun 15, 2019
rvp2018:
So Nigeria is the garden of Eden that doesn't require fertilizer despite the land being farmed for centuries now. Just Urea smiley. I am telling you there are many approaches to finding out GDP. You've failed the input approach already.

Kenya agriculture is world-class. That is how we managed to get 25B dollars from such a small arable land.

Do you even know that we produce far more fertilizers than Kenya and that you guys might never catch up with us in this lifetime going by new factories springing up on a daily bases in Nigeria, among which is the largest fertilizer company in the Africa if not in the world by Dangote group.?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 9:44am On Jun 15, 2019
grin grin grin
rvp2018:
Now that mitigate some of it. So you've got a startling 30M acres of arable land (no 9 worldwide) - with 1.5M tonnes of fertilizer smiley - what is the per acre application of fertilizer(urea) again- and then you somehow beat all those countries - to become 4th largest agriculture produce in world - and yet nobody has ever seen a ship full of Nigeria food. Pick any of those countries - US, Brazil, Ukraine, Indonesia - even Kenya - there are thousands of ships now - with their food.

In mitigation, you can claim the fact that nearly all 200M Nigerians are openly defecating on the land after a heavy meal of fufu, has produced one of the most successfully organically farmed agriculture.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:48am On Jun 15, 2019
rvp2018:
You first tell us Nigeria methodology for Tomatos. Our milk industry is easy to measure. We have easily the largest herd of exotic cattle in Africa. Formally marketed milk delivered to processors already is 650M litres.
You can have this (old data)

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:54am On Jun 15, 2019
rvp2018:
You first tell us Nigeria methodology for Tomatos. Our milk industry is easy to measure. We have easily the largest herd of exotic cattle in Africa. Formally marketed milk delivered to processors already is 650M litres.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:17am On Jun 15, 2019
rvp2018:
The pictures of poverty in kenya is a reality.The pictures of slums are a reality. Kenya has millions of poor people (15M). I think we take it as call to action. We are doing very well in that sector. In 2014 we started Welfare System with monthly remittance to the poor, the disabled, the old, orphans and vulnerable. Any disable person in Kenya get 30 dollars monthly. Any person above 65 yrs old get 30 dollars per month (pension no pension). We have about 1.2M household in North Kenya who receive 30 dollars for their food. In short we have about 5M (10%) of kenyan on welfare programs.

Poverty is coming down. Btw 2006-2016 - we pulled out 4-5M people out of poverty. By now we have probably moved another 3M out of poverty. We probably still have about 10-12M extremely poor people in Kenya that we need to pull out of poverty and we are working on it.

As for Nigeria - your poor are on their own - poverty has increase to shocking levels - about 70% of Nigerians are now poor.


Why do they constantly need reminding? Dishonesty, delusion, slowness or all of the above?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Fidha254(m): 10:19am On Jun 15, 2019
You guys are still at it! Common guys! It's been too long!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:19am On Jun 15, 2019
I checked all the data. Leave Dangote aside - until it actually begins production. What is happening now is you produce about 1.5M tonnes (main factory seem to have opened around 2016) - you import about 0.8M and you export about 0.7M.

Btw why all that Urea - In kenya and as far as I know - DAP (phosphorus) really is the main deal.

68816419:

Do you even know that we produce far more fertilizers than Kenya and that you guys might never catch up with us in this lifetime going by new factories springing up on a daily bases in Nigeria, among which is the largest fertilizer company in the Africa if not in the world by Dangote group.?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:20am On Jun 15, 2019
I will try that. I am more interested in methodology. But I will get the open data.
68816419:

You can have this (old data)
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:36am On Jun 15, 2019
It's only the beginning I guess!
Fidha254:
You guys are still at it! Common guys! It's been too long!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:42am On Jun 15, 2019
obaaderemi:
cheesy Why should anyone think of banning a lame duck like you. That has always been your excuse when you want to run.
And we are not deleting this thread! We have your ass where we want it. You fvcked with the wrong niggahs.
Don't beg.

And yes,when you mention Kenya anywhere in the world today, only two things come to folk's minds:
Kenya's legendary corruption
and biblical proportion hunger.
Deal with it.

Nigga,do you get a hard on from these pix,srsly WTF!?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:53am On Jun 15, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
Dude! Please do not cry out your intestines yet, grin grin save it for next year when Dangote's Refinery, the world's biggest single-train facility comes onstream.
You haven't seen anything yet, I swear! You will weep excruciatingly and profusely till you hibernate and retreat into torpor.
Envy, bitterness and hate for Nigeria will only consume you fools......, you will curse God oneday for not depositing any premium mineral resources including oil in that arid, famine ravaged, and inconsequential tiny country. grin grin

It is hysterically lugubrious how you dusty looking, wretched, starving, ematiating and about to die hobgoblins express grave concerns over Nigeria's challenges when Kenya is on a precipice of apocalypse. Is it our fault that we are naturally ahead of your poor country? grin

It is my onus to keep reminding you that Nigeria, the Giant of Africa, is an emerging power that will continue to shape Africa and the world, no amount of wailing by Kenyans can erode Nigeria's innate hegemony in Africa.

Largest economy in Africa is Nigeria
Africa's largest oil producing country, Nigeria
Most populous black nation on planet earth, Nigeria
Richest Black man on earth is a Nigerian, not a naturalized Nigerian grin grin
We are fixing and modernizing our infrastructure while building new smart cities from the scratch simultaneously.
Dude, it might interest you to know that the length and breadth of Nigeria is a Niagara of construction site as we type these now.

Son! I'm sorry, I have a lot to attend to unlike you lazy assholes and goblins so let me stop here.
Do not hesitate to quote me, I would be glad to reply at my convenience and continue to educate you ignoramuses, also make google your companion for more information about the progress of Nigeria, the Giant of Africa.
Bye for now!



ARRGHH! Nigga we get it-Dangote's refinery will save Africa's "sloppy economy." What's a 'sloppy economy,' btw,if I may ask? I've never seen the term and you've all posted it at least 900x.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:31am On Jun 15, 2019
Picture break - Mombasa

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:34am On Jun 15, 2019
Picture break - Mombasa and Kiambu

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 11:46am On Jun 15, 2019
samorobo:


All this long talk does not stop nigeria from being the largest economy in africa with an average nigerian being richer than an average kenyan when you look at the gdp per capita which shows how beneath you are under us.
90 million Nigerians living in extreme poverty is silly . Even a roadside begger in.lagos can earn up to N1,000 in 2 hours which equals more than $3.
The pattern used in arriving at that nonsense was based on lagging economies which in prevalent in our economy and is expected to Change this year. A child born today is counted among that figure as a citizen living below the poverty line as though he should have cashed out money from the uterus.
Gdp per capita is the only reliable key and going by IMF& WORLD BANK YOU GUYS ARE SO POOR AND SHOULD TUCK YOUR HEADS IN SHAME" and please stop parading that false info about you being a $100bn already when world bank and imf has said you would amount to sh10trn =$98bn by the end of this year and nobody is so sure you will eventually arrive at that figure as drought has begun to set in and widen it's horizon across the 500,000kmsq of resourcesless, shamefully less than 10,000km tarred roads, land - and it's even set to intensify greatly next year's which has been predicted to lead to an inevitable famine. You better go and tell your govt to build an ark maybe this time it would be called "KENYA ARK" so you can store foods and accommodate the doomed souls on your many years of famine soon to come. How I honestly wish I would see how great kenya has become but unfortunately the feeds and result I am getting online has disuaded that innocent wish. Come 2025 you are going into neocolonialism with your lives, future and destiny at the mercy of your chinese masters( I hope you.learn martial art during these horrible vicissitudes which you most likely are not going to come out from until at least 2040 that's if your govt play their cards well else it might extend till 2080 by then you'ld be long gone with your kid approaching 30 years while he/she still pays for your govt gullible stupid act which allowed himself to be used as a pawn in the chinese game )
You had better listen to your brother cossano cos as he once said nigeria economy is one of the world most informal economies and in reality should be in trillion not the less than three figure before the 9 zeros that makes up a billion that you guys are still struggling with even though it is largely influenced by debt.
You know I try my very best to accommodate and tolerate you silly dreams of being a great and progressive nation with the dream of being africa largest economy but most times I can't help but revolt against that impossible imagination going by what's in ground and what nature as alinged your way as you step into trying years- and of course all thanks to your govt predecessor for not heeding the warning of these early predicted natural disasters and now you have to pay for each and every one of those years to come starting from next year.

No matter how you try to argue about the obvious the following still remains fact
(1): An average Nigerian is richer than an average kenyan, all thanks to our Gdp per capita
(2): 2.4 million turkanans are starving and we have not even included the pokot and the rest tribes that I cannot remember simply because they all have some weird unpronounceable names
(3 ) : Somalians are closing in on your borders and it only a matter of time before they gain absolute control on your resourceless land
(4 ) : alsaahab are currently operating in your capital - a place that holds more than 50% of your wealth and debt as well as international investment which apparently is your country most valued location

Cry like a bitch if you want NIGERIA IS GREATER THAN KENYAN. The only african country that has impressed me so far and will rival with nigeria in the future is egypt, and even at that I will say it's by a long shot. You need to see what these two giants are planning for the future. SA will be so benched and dwarf by egypt once egypt vision starts coming on stream soon enough .
So many laudable project .wait next year while we commission so many project that would make you cry like the bitch you are. In the meantime we are going gold next year the amount of investors that as showed interest so far has been amazing . I will kill you with progress until you die of unccessary hate and envy

And please don't sing emotions for me, cos I was actually smiling devilishly while I arranged your countries problem before you so you can be buzzed back into reality

Infantilism + hate+ envy = ONE BORING MINI NOVEL.
BOOOOO!!?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 12:16pm On Jun 15, 2019
kikuyu1:


Infantilism + hate+ envy = ONE BORING MINI NOVEL.
BOOOOO!!?
d only difference between u n d person u're censuring is ur age, every other thing maintain status quo.

Maybe if I replace "Infantilism" with "oldish", u n rvp2018 will realize urselves.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:37pm On Jun 15, 2019
Picture break

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:32pm On Jun 15, 2019
rvp2018:
Picture break
Nigga we fckng tired of these recycled pictures of same Nairobi CBDs , we could as well do same if we wish.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:35pm On Jun 15, 2019
68816419:

Nigga we fckng tired of these recycled pictures of same Nairobi CBDs , we could as well do same if we wish.
You cannot get tired of a good thing..do you get tired of you wife or hubby.Youre only envious because you got nothing close to Nairobi Skyline.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:36pm On Jun 15, 2019
gallivant:


A $23 billion budget is too megre for Nigeria. The citizens should be in the streets protesting this injustice instead of daydreaming about Indians.

Naijjans,that's what we don't get! Its like the 1973 October War:the Arabs screamed they were winning;the masses ululated frenziedly, only to be dumbfounded when after 'imminent victory,' a humiliating ceasefire was signed. Syria lost the Golan and Egypt nearly lost Cairo! In fact the latter lost 5 missile boats in their own waters and were lucky the IDF didn't capture Damascus-at the end they were 40 km from the capital.

The Egyptian high command were sacked and jailed,the Jordanians king who joined battle late was never trusted by Arabs and ten yrs later faced a near civil war from angry immigrant Palestinians while Assad had to explain 3000 KIA to his people.
The point is immense Arab anger forced post 1973 forced massive sociopolitical change. Will Naij ever use their quite justifiable anger to throw out their leaders and change ishyt? Or will they endlessly deny and heckle their betters while "suffering and smiling"?
This post will ofc escape the grasp of simple minds.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:57pm On Jun 15, 2019
You said poor soil ? Algerian agriculture in the sahara desert grin

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