Weed and religion don’t go together, I thought.

However, a Leafly article by Natán Ponieman suggested otherwise. “Moderation seems to be the key to the enjoyment of non-medical cannabis in the Christian tradition,” he wrote.

In an exclusive conversation, Ponieman explained that, when you look at it from a historical perspective, “there is nothing in the basis of Christianity against medicine. Jesus himself was (and still is for many, today) a healer.


“The default relationship one would normally trace between the big churches and prohibitionism has more to do with their historical role as political agents, than it has to do with any directive derived from their core value system.”

A few months after my conversation with Shavo, and Ponieman’s article came out, I met Joy Smith, a grandmother who went from preaching the Lord’s word as a Christian minister, to preaching the benefits of pure CBD as a hemp .


To read more. Visit here.....forbes.com

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/javierhasse/2019/06/13/the-church-of-englands-10-5b-fund-will-now-invest-cannabis/amp/

Let's us not be shy about economy debate of marijuana .


Christians what do you think?

Wahala for problem

vaxx:
Let's us not be shy about economy debate of marijuana .


Christians what do you think?

Best news

Oluwasaeon:

Best news

lol....

It seems step by step, marijuana and Christianity are getting closer. Interesting......

vaxx:
Let's us not be shy about economy debate of marijuana .


Christians what do you think?

At the moment we can only be happy for our brothers in developed countries who can handle the fallout of legal Weed. Nigeria in its present state despite being one of Africa's largest consumer of weed cannot legalize it any way because we lack the systems to control the fallout. For example since legalization Canada has had an increase in Weed related road accidents. We already have bad roads in nigeria now add legal Weed to it....tell me what you see.

vaxx:
Let's us not be shy about economy debate of marijuana .
Christians what do you think?

Shey nobi God create marijuana ni? Everything not misused, abused and wrongly used is a free pass and you dont have to pay.

MuttleyLaff:
Shey nobi God create marijuana ni? Everything not misused, abused and wrongly used is a free pass and you dont have to pay.

interesting. There is no crime in pulling enough dry grass before the church service..lol....even the bishop can go ahead.

We want to see Jesus lifted high



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfpJ1SY4uJU

leokid866:


At the moment we can only be happy for our brothers in developed countries who can handle the fallout of legal Weed. Nigeria in its present state despite being one of Africa's largest consumer of weed cannot legalize it any way because we lack the systems to control the fallout. For example since legalization Canada has had an increase in Weed related road accidents. We already have bad roads in nigeria now add legal Weed to it....tell me what you see.

The moral implications. Legalizing it an Africa may pose more damage using Canada weed accident related incident as a case study.

The potency of cbd oil an extract of hemp leaf which does not make people high is for the good of all.

The world is gradually coming out of wrapping and smoking the dry leaf to get high to the medicinal aspect of the same leaf.

Companies can be allowed to extract helpful medicine out of the leaf for our use but for smoking, nowhere.

vaxx:
Let's us not be shy about economy debate of marijuana .


Christians what do you think?

I don't think we have up to 50 Christians on this forum.

vaxx:
Interesting. There is no crime in pulling enough dry grass before the church service..lol....even the bishop can go ahead.

"Jesus was walking through some wheat fields on a Sabbath. As his disciples walked along with him, they began to pick the heads of wheat."
- Mark 2:23

"At that time Jesus passed through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick and eat some heads of grain."
- Luke 6:1

Nobi today, yansh don tay for back nau. Do you know about how much unethical products that Wall Street offers, churches are knowingly or unknowingly investing in, hmm?

Tallesty1:
I don't think we have up to 50 Christians on this forum.

That, as a matter of fact, is a good thing

MuttleyLaff:
"Jesus was walking through some wheat fields on a Sabbath. As his disciples walked along with him, they began to pick the heads of wheat."
- Mark 2:23

"At that time Jesus passed through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick and eat some heads of grain."
- Luke 6:1

Nobi today, yansh don tay for back nau. Do you know about how much unethical products that Wall Street offers, churches are knowingly or unknowingly investing in, hmm?

That, as a matter of fact, is a good thing

Even the disciples of jesus got high, how much vaxx. Is time to blow small grass jare

vaxx:
It seems step by step, marijuana and Christianity are getting closer. Interesting......

A man gave his opinion about taking drugs, now it has become a Christian thing?

Lol

MuttleyLaff:
Shey nobi God create marijuana ni? Everything not misused, abused and wrongly used is a free pass and you dont have to pay.

And here is Muttleylaff again endorsing the consumption of hard drugs.

The man of God who endorses homosexuality for Christians.

Masturbation for Christians
and now taking of hard drugs for Christians.

What will be next?

OkCornel, openmine, TV01, elated, make una come see una pastor o. Him dey smoke igbo. He is not only a Homo, him dey join igbo to him already wasted life.

MuttleyLaff:
"Jesus was walking through some wheat fields on a Sabbath. As his disciples walked along with him, they began to pick the heads of wheat."
- Mark 2:23

"At that time Jesus passed through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick and eat some heads of grain."
- Luke 6:1

Nobi today, yansh don tay for back nau. Do you know about how much unethical products that Wall Street offers, churches are knowingly or unknowingly investing in, hmm?

That, as a matter of fact, is a good thing

What 'as a mater of fact' is a good thing? That less than 50 people in Nairaland are Christians?

MuttleyLaff:
"Jesus was walking through some wheat fields on a Sabbath. As his disciples walked along with him, they began to pick the heads of wheat."
- Mark 2:23

"At that time Jesus passed through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick and eat some heads of grain."
- Luke 6:1

Nobi today, yansh don tay for back nau. Do you know about how much unethical products that Wall Street offers, churches are knowingly or unknowingly investing in, hmm?

How does this scripture align with the 'dry grass' Vaxx talked about ?

Do you mean to imply that Jesus' disciples smoke weed on Sabbath day? For that is the massage Vaxx meant to pass across there.

Shepherd00:

A man gave his opinion about taking drugs, now it has become a Christian thing?

Lol

church of England is an authority. If she finds investing in marijuana as NOTHING against Christianity, who are you to question her....

Shepherd00:
And here is Muttleylaff again endorsing the consumption of hard drugs.

The man of God who endorses homosexuality for Christians.

Masturbation for Christians
and now taking of hard drugs for Christians.

What will be next?

OkCornel, openmine, TV01, elated177, make una come see una pastor o. Him dey smoke igbo. He is not only a Homo, him dey join igbo to him already wasted life.

and Jesus wept. I doubt TV01 shares this your pitiful sentiment with you. He has sense wiseness that eludes...

Shepherd00:
What 'as a mater of fact' is a good thing? That less than 50 people in Nairaland are Christians

You for example, like I've being saying and showing on https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/15#79388816, if only you or more christians, properly read and correctly study their bibles, there'd be less christians.

Shepherd00:
How does this scripture align with the 'dry grass' Vaxx talked about ?

It is a parallel

Shepherd00:
Do you mean to imply that Jesus' disciples smoke weed on Sabbath day? For that is the massage Vaxx meant to pass across there.

No I didnt imply imply that Jesus' disciples smoke weed on Sabbath day. I have previously tried to steer vaxx to know that, shey nobi God create marijuana ni? and that everything not misused, abused and wrongly used is a free pass and you dont have to pay. vaxx is playfully just being full of mischief with his posts. He is just having fun

vaxx:
church of England is an authority. If she finds investing in marijuana as NOTHING against Christianity, who are you to question her....

Excise me!? I wonder why you think we hold synods! I'm CoE and we don't adopt this "no questioning of authority" ideology of yours! We question everything that If you put 2 CoEs in the Garden of Eden and God said "this fruit, don't eat", we'd be asking Why? Why? Why?! And if we don't get a satisfactory answer, we'd ask the fruit by eating it because questioning is precisely our leading ideology.

I think the CoE will have to justify this at the next synod meeting. We forced a pull out in investment in tobacco and I can see objections to investing in dope!

budaatum:

Excise me!? I wonder why you think we hold synods! I'm CoE and we don't adopt this "no questioning of authority" ideology of yours! We question everything that If you put 2 CoEs in the Garden of Eden and God said "this fruit, don't eat", we'd be asking Why? Why? Why?! And if we don't get a satisfactory answer, we'd ask the fruit by eating it because questioning is precisely our leading ideology.

I think the CoE will have to justify this at the next synod meeting. We forced a pull out in investment in tobacco and I can see objections to investing in dope!

How are you sure this new investment wasn't thoroughly debated in synod before the church finnally settle to inject a whooping 10. 5 billion dollar into something the large Christian majority feel it is against the standard character of holiness and the head of church ( Jesus christ) .

I doubt as much, the supreme governor has the final says on this matter..... The member agitation are for simple democratic rullings.

vaxx:
How are you sure this new investments wasn't thoroughly debated in synod before the church finnally settle to inject a whooping 10. 5 billion dollar into something the large Christian majority feel it is against the standard character of holiness and the head of church ( Jesus christ)

I doubt as much, the supreme governor has the final says on this matter..... The member agitation are for simple democratic rullings.

At the synods that I attend? I'm sure. The CoE is not ever going to invest all its funds of about 10b in one single product to start with, as we just aren't so stupid that we'd put all our money in one single investment, and see the following from the Times:

The Church Commissioners for England, who handle £8.2 billion of church assets, ban investment in companies that profit from recreational drugs but said for the first time that they would consider investing in companies that work with medicinal marijuana now that it is legal in the UK.

See the word "consider"? That consideration means "discuss it at synod", and the "ban" mentioned was as a result of synod agitation, and not because of any yeye holiness (CoE does not do holiness!). Any whiff of the Church Commissioners investing in anything we consider non-medicinal marijuana, we will be back on the warpath! And trust me, they listen. We just need to stop paying offerings to make them, and when CoE members agitate, even God in heaven hears.

For your info, "supreme governor" of the CoE and Defender of the Faith is Queen Elizabeth II and if you haven't noticed, she hardly ever speaks!

A very unusual organisation, is the CoE.

vaxx:

I doubt as much, the supreme governor has the final says on this matter......

I got to do this!

Final say, lol!

leokid866:


At the moment we can only be happy for our brothers in developed countries who can handle the fallout of legal Weed. Nigeria in its present state despite being one of Africa's largest consumer of weed cannot legalize it any way because we lack the systems to control the fallout. For example since legalization Canada has had an increase in Weed related road accidents. We already have bad roads in nigeria now add legal Weed to it....tell me what you see.

Link where you got this from cos what I found says there is no increase.

budaatum:

At the synods that I attend? I'm sure. The CoE is not ever going to invest all its funds of about 10b in one single product to start with, as we just aren't so stupid that we'd put all our money in one single investment, and see the following from the Times:

The Church Commissioners for England, who handle £8.2 billion of church assets, ban investment in companies that profit from recreational drugs but said for the first time that they would consider investing in companies that work with medicinal marijuana now that it is legal in the UK.

See the word "consider"? That consideration means "discuss it at synod", and the "ban" mentioned was as a result of synod agitation, and not because of any yeye holiness (CoE does not do holiness!). Any whiff of the Church Commissioners investing in anything we consider non-medicinal marijuana, we will be back on the w#��arpath! And trust me, they listen. We just need to stop paying offerings to make them, and when CoE members agitate, even God in heaven hears.

For your info, "supreme governor" of the CoE and Defender of the Faith is Queen Elizabeth II and if you haven't noticed, she hardly ever speaks!

A very unusual organisation, is the CoE.

You can't be too sure particularly when you don't know. The church of England is investing her MONEY into a profitable venture. The net market value of marijuana as of today stands around 11 billon dollar which is expected to hit 50 billion dollar in 2027. Church of England refuse to be left out of this profitable venture.

After further scrutiny of this subject, the church commissioner actually agree with the project and consider it a medicinal project while still rejecting the idea of using it for recreational purpose ( we got a clue now that the first steps had been broken, what next now is the total legalization of it for whatever purpose has it is done in Netherlands and Canada of late


And regarding the supreme governor, madam Elizabeth the queen holds the power to do almost anything ( and so denies that power to any elected politician or bishop or whatever) but only exercises it on advice. If she wanted to change church doctrine or secular law (or withhold the approval of a change) on her own a account, she can do that easily but not to provoke a major constitutional crisis. She welcome democratic rullings.


The play King Charles 3 explores this in a fictional setting.

LordReed:


Link where you got this from cos what I found says there is no increase.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.narcity.com/amp/weed-related-traffic-deaths-are-on-the-rise-in-canada

Okay this was a study done before legalization. But one could see a pattern forming.

vaxx:

And regarding the supreme governor, madam Elizabeth the queen holds the power to do almost anything ( and so denies that power to any elected politician or bishop or whatever) but only exercises it on advice. If she wanted to change church doctrine or secular law (or withhold the approval of a change) on her own a account, she can do that easily but not to provoke a major constitutional crisis. She welcome democratic rullings.


The play King Charles 3 explores this in a fictional setting.

Sounds like you don't know much about Kings of England or of United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth, as our Queen Elizabeth is known. She has no such power "to do almost anything" as you claim. Neither was democracy welcomed by any monarch. It was wrested from the King by Parliament.

United Kingdom monarchs haven't had the authority you claim she has after we beheaded King Charles I for treason on January 30, 1649 and replaced him with James II the King of England and Ireland who was also known as James VII the King of Scotland and whom we deposed in the Glorious Revolution of 1688 and replaced in 1689 by Mary II Queen of England, Scotland, and Ireland who co-reigned with her husband and first cousin, King William III the Prince of Orange, the Stadtholder of Holland, Zeeland, Utrecht, Gelderland and Overijssel in the Dutch Republic until her death.

As for "the Church Commissioners who exist to support the work and mission of the Church of England today and for future generations, helping it to remain a Christian presence in every community", according to ethical guidelines which exclude direct investments "in companies involved in indiscriminate weaponry, conventional weaponry, pornography, tobacco, gambling, non-military rearms, high interest rate lending, human embryonic cloning, extraction of thermal coal and production of oil from oil sands, subject to revenue thresholds", at the request of us members. I can assure you that we can, if we see fit, add marijuana to that list especially as most foreign companies that do engage in the production of marijuana also might produce some for recreational use.

leokid866:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.narcity.com/amp/weed-related-traffic-deaths-are-on-the-rise-in-canada

Okay this was a study done before legalization. But one could see a pattern forming.

Oh, a pattern has formed! See here too my Lord.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_legalized_cannabis?wprov=sfla1

budaatum:

Sounds like you don't know much about Kings of England or of United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth, as our Queen Elizabeth is known. She has no such power "to do almost anything" as you claim. Neither was democracy welcomed by any monarch. It was wrested from the King by Parliament.

United Kingdom monarchs haven't had the authority you claim she has after we beheaded King Charles I for treason on January 30, 1649 and replaced him with James II the King of England and Ireland who was also known as James VII the King of Scotland and whom we deposed in the Glorious Revolution of 1688 and replaced in 1689 by Mary II Queen of England, Scotland, and Ireland who co-reigned with her husband and first cousin, King William III the Prince of Orange, the Stadtholder of Holland, Zeeland, Utrecht, Gelderland and Overijssel in the Dutch Republic until her death.

As for "the Church Commissioners who exist to support the work and mission of the Church of England today and for future generations, helping it to remain a Christian presence in every community", according to ethical guidelines which exclude direct investments "in companies involved in indiscriminate weaponry, conventional weaponry, pornography, tobacco, gambling, non-military rearms, high interest rate lending, human embryonic cloning, extraction of thermal coal and production of oil from oil sands, subject to revenue thresholds", at the request of us members. I can assure you that we can, if we see fit, add marijuana to that list especially as most foreign companies that do engage in the production of marijuana also might produce some for recreational use.

This has cross out of point. We are discussing church investment into what is totally regard as ungodly or unholy to the church of Christ here. Not on the supremacy of church. I only tolerate it for a while when you shift the goal post. I am not tolerating that anymore.


The report i posted says church of England is investing into marijuana and the commissioner of the church did give a go ahead. So who are you to question them? A SITTING church member or the governing council in the synod house?.


I hate it when i am reading wording without any form of peculiarities or reasoning.

leokid866:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.narcity.com/amp/weed-related-traffic-deaths-are-on-the-rise-in-canada

Okay this was a study done before legalization. But one could see a pattern forming.

And after the legalisation there was no increase so this study is sort of irrelevant.