lazarusokafor90:

China are trying to limit the growth of their population not because they can't feed but mainly because they do not have the land mass (space) to house them. But just look at the Nigerian population, people just keep giving birth like rats. It's really disgusting to me, especially seeing a man, his wife and their six children (or even more) in a one room apartment.

Pure ignorance. China has excess land. The Party does whatever it wants because it can and no one dare dissent

LarryBee1k:

Are we?

For one thing, we don't harvest executed pisoners' organs. And we will never kill or throw away our female new borns, which was rampant in China.

Guestlander:


What gave you the impression that they will do that? And what gave you the impression that western countries cannot seize Nigerian assets abroad if we refuse to pay what is owed to them?

Because they have done it in other places.
In the West people will condemn it in congress and demonstrate on the streets.

LarryBee1k:


We harvest even innocent people organs, terrorists, tribalism, religion fanatics.

Females do it well especially in South East

We are much much much worse.

Those are criminals not the govt. In China it is the govt

THANK YOU!

Honestly, I really disagree with you here. "The man indebt is always weak, dependent and easily manipulated; turn that around for a country in debt. "

I also like you to know that, 'its not a single tree that makes a forest.' Countries get loans to develop infrastructures, high technologies etc., the UAE, European countries, Asians & even countries from southern and northern America are not left out.

African countries, likes of our dear country "Nigeria", get loans from this guys to finance elections, campaigns; even finance executive luxuries.
And in the end start servicing bad debts. Even the Chinese people didn't become great doing that.

So my brother, the USA is actually sounding a wake up call to Nigeria mostly especially& Africa at large.
Because Chinese lenders do that just for business and no man wants to lose money in business.

God bless you.

Flier:
They are jealous of Chinese influence in Africa

This is the best you can say?

Well keep encouraging your president to take loan after all you will soon die and leave the earth ur remember your children and grand children will bear the burden.

bro4u:
From the write-up they are actually warning us from taking Chinese loans, lols which looks like a cry from a drowning nation because nations no longer go to the US for loans but now opt for the Chinese. Hypocrites, they won't tell you they are the biggest debtor in the world.

They took the loan nd its reflect on the lives of their citizens, we took loan and few people embezzled it. So what's the point? It is unsustainable debt

Chinese

PoliteActivist:


Because they have done it in other places.
In the West people will condemn it in congress and demonstrate on the streets.

Where are the other places where they did it and what was the agreement with these countries?

budaatum:

15k? Is that all?

Debt per person in UK £35k

Debt per person in USA is $85k

Na him be say our own small be that

PoliteActivist:


Who is the we that will do that when our govt and key citizens will be in their pickets

"Pickets", I assume you mean pockets, if so, the answer is we, the Nigerians. I'll explain. Atiku campaigned that he will sell our golden egg laying NNPC, so what did we Nigerians do? We voted for another 4 years of sai bubu from Daura under whom we already suffered 4 years and know we'd suffer another 4 years. That, is what we do, we sacrifice, despite all the lies you might read on here about how we are short term and all. As you might know, we don't tell the masses why we do oro - or you might not know if you are not Yoruba or ever lived in a village.

That's why you, SIRTee15, would ask me to "Start by burning down your corrupt politicians making life miserable for u guys" as if the "corrupt politicians" are the only leaders and are aliens from out of space and not we ourselves are the "guys" leading ourselves the best way we can and know how to. Those factories you spoke about, for instance, the one you claim are "maltreating their nigerian staffs", the staff they kidnapped off the street, do you mean, or the ones who begged to work there?

If China buys up a uni or any other Nigerian national asset and treat it like they don't care what we think then we will aluta their chinko asses out of town, except only a person completely ignorant about 5000 year old China, having gotten their knowledge from what they likely read on the web, would think China is so stupid and shortterm thinking like 69 year old Nigeria!

Here is a very good History of China. Episode 1 will directly download from here. And heres the blob of the amazing one I'm currently on.

budaatum:

We've made it to the end of the Tang and questions abound! From portrayals of Han Emperors, to my favorite Emperor, and the best Dynasty EVER, to battle tactics and armor, to great Chinese Kung Fu movies and how much a prostitute would have been worth... we've had a whole host of excellent questions that I do my very best to answer!

The History of China

Cheaper than watching a video, no?

As we say in China, "the person in the pit does not see as far as the one on a hill" so when you know about China apart from what you heard in the news, please yell at me. I'll be willing to talk.

LarryBee1k:


What make you think it's only criminals and not govt. The people in charge are the one killing us.

See how we are comparing China and Naija? That's how it should be. Compare two third world countries. Not comparing China and US - apples and oranges

PoliteActivist:


Pure ignorance. China has excess land. The Party does whatever it wants because it can and no one dare dissent

Yes they have the land mass but it is not enough when compared to the population.

budaatum:

"Pickets", I assume you mean pockets, if so, the answer is we, the Nigerians. I'll explain. Atiku campaigned that he will sell our golden egg laying NNPC, so what did we Nigerians do? We voted for another 4 years of sai bubu from Daura under whom we already suffered 4 years and know we'd suffer another 4 years. That, is what we do, we sacrifice, despite all the lies you might read on here about how we are short term and all. As you might know, we don't tell the masses why we do oro - or you might not know if you are not Yoruba or ever lived in a village.

That's why you, SIRTee15, would ask me to "Start by burning down your corrupt politicians making life miserable for u guys" as if the "corrupt politicians" are the only leaders and are aliens from out of space and not we ourselves are the "guys" leading ourselves the best way we can and know how to. Those factories you spoke about, for instance, the one you claim are "maltreating their nigerian staffs", the staff they kidnapped off the street, do you mean, or the ones who begged to work there?

If China buys up a uni or any other Nigerian national asset and treat it like they don't care what we think then we will aluta their chinko asses out of town, except only a person completely ignorant about 5000 year old China, having gotten their knowledge from what they likely read on the web, would think China is so stupid and shortterm thinking like 69 year old Nigeria!

Here is a very good History of China. Episode 1 will directly download from here. And heres the blob of the amazing one I'm currently on.



As we say in China, "the person in the pit does not see as far as the one on a hill" so when you know about China apart from what you heard in the news, please yell at me. I'll be willing to talk.

So naive? What's wrong you?? History of China! How about history of Africa - we taught the world. We are talking of how things are today and u are talking history. You know nothing about China. You think it is voting. The Party has 1.4 billion Chinese subdued with no dissent, nobody saying pim, and you think they can't subdue 180 million Nigerians. When they have all your info and can monitor everything and can shut down Naija cyber space at will, I'll know how u will organise and mobilise that huge rebellion

lazarusokafor90:

Yes they have the land mass but it is not enough when compared to the population.

China is 7 times Nigeria in population but 10 times in land mass. See below

LarryBee1k:


What make you think it's only criminals and not govt. The people in charge are the one killing us.

Lie. It is not Buhari's or APC's policy to be harvesting prisoner's organs or killing new born babies

Guestlander:


Where are the other places where they did it and what was the agreement with these countries?

Read this thread carefully

PoliteActivist:


So naive? What's wrong you?? History of China! How about history of Africa - we taught the world. We are talking of how things are today and u are talking history. You know nothing about China. You think it is voting. The Party has 1.4 billion Chinese subdued with no dissent, nobody saying pim, and you think they can't subdue 180 million Nigerians. When they have all your info and can shut down Naija cyber space at will, I'll know how u will organise and mobilise that huge rebellion

The Chinese that I meet do not go on about this "Chinese subdued with no dissent", quite a lot of them are happy with their lot, so I can't understand where you get the impression they are being kept in bondage from. You do know China is no Kim's Korea right?

As for Nigeria history, could you tell me your understanding of the Nigerianisation Act and its relevance to the topic at hand? It is Nigerian history after all.

The time when we could be enslaved has long passed as our own history books show. We may not have a lot of rebellion but I doubt the youths of today can be so easily subdued as their parents were, especially in this digital age when we can easily learn history. No chinko is coming to enslave Nigeria because, it in no way fits with China's longterm goals, and it wouldn't fit in with our goals either.

JubrinElSudan:
The worst is that African's major creditor is China. Some persons will say US/IMF/Paris club etc are angry Africans don't borrow from them, but atleast the western creditors had history of erasing some of the debts. But China? China will lend you, use her manpower to execute the projects(like CCECC is doing to us), and once you default, they take over

Also they will install all sorts of spyware in the project -- making it a win-win-win situation for them!

bro4u:
From the write-up they are actually warning us from taking Chinese loans, lols which looks like a cry from a drowning nation because nations no longer go to the US for loans but now opt for the Chinese. Hypocrites, they won't tell you they are the biggest debtor in the world.

are you ok? My brother debt is debt irrespective where you borrowed it.

budaatum:

The Chinese that I meet do not go on about this "Chinese subdued with no dissent", quite a lot of them are happy with their lot, so I can't understand where you get the impression they are being kept in bondage from. You do know China is no Kim's Korea right?

As for Nigeria history, could you tell me your understanding of the Nigerianisation Act and its relevance to the topic at hand? It is Nigerian history after all.

The time when we could be enslaved has long passed as our own history books show. We may not have a lot of rebellion but I doubt the youths of today can be so easily subdued as their parents were, especially in this digital age when we can easily learn history. No chinko is coming to enslave Nigeria because, it in no way fits with China's longterm goals, and it wouldn't fit in with our goals either.

Do u know in China they don't have Google, Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, YouTube, and countless other apps the rest of the world take for granted. Do u think it's by choice? The Party decides what's best for you. Your job is to demonstrate that you are very happy with it, with no hint of dissent. That's what's meant by subdued.
Digital age! They will monitor everything u do on the web and also can shut down Naija cyberspace when they wish.

LarryBee1k:


Sir. All the things you think China is, Nigeria is 2x worse. Bye

Lie, lie. In China you can't talk about China the way you are talking about Nigeria. They will put you in re-education and throw away the key. Totalitarianism, one party state, is simply no good and we don't want it in Naija. Nice arguing with ya.

bro4u:
From the write-up they are actually warning us from taking Chinese loans, lols which looks like a cry from a drowning nation because nations no longer go to the US for loans but now opt for the Chinese. Hypocrites, they won't tell you they are the biggest debtor in the world.

debtor to which country_? just talk rubbish. do you know how many nations US is single handedly supporting? does China give straight free aids like US? empty comment.... Has US been giving loans to Nigeria before? or you think world bank is US bank,,,,

bro4u:
From the write-up they are actually warning us from taking Chinese loans, lols which looks like a cry from a drowning nation because nations no longer go to the US for loans but now opt for the Chinese. Hypocrites, they won't tell you they are the biggest debtor in the world.

You clearly don’t understand US debt.

Unlike Africa countries, US don’t go and borrow money, all US debts are paper debts.

US simply create treasury notes, then go to the market and sell the notes. Note holders get paid interest and when they are tired of holding the notes, they go into the same market and sell them to another individual and the price of the note at each varies depending on the strength of US economy and other external factors.

Africa countries borrow money with stringent requirements and conditions and also consequences if they don’t pay back as agreed.

LarryBee1k:


How is it different from Nigeria where they'll send thug to beat or worse kill you? They put you outta this world and throw away the key you can't tell me Nigeria is better than China. China has technology, how to manage their resources.

Nairaland proves u are lying. We bash Naija constantly including u. I once listed a loooong list of everything wrong with 9ja and I call our leaders thieves all the time . It is very easy to trace any of us with our phones. Yet I have never heard pim from govt and I I'll never hear anything no matter what I say. Try anything like that in China!

linearity:


You clearly don’t understand US debt.

Unlike Africa countries, US don’t go and borrow money, all US debts are paper debts.

US simply create treasury notes, then go to the market and sell the notes. Note holders get paid interest and when they are tired of holding the notes, they go into the same market and sell them to another individual and the price of the note at each varies depending on the strength of US economy and other external factors.

Africa countries borrow money with stringent requirements and conditions and also consequences if they don’t pay back as agreed.

This is free education