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pu7pl3:
The director...he is the leader

emmy2807:
Guys, can anyone help me with the full list of all dc based series.
am 3familiar with doom patrol, supergirl, flash, arrow, legends of tomorrow, swamp thing, titans. is there any other apart from these?

Nickshrapnel:
Hello all, should the director be blamed for a bad movie or the scriptwriter?

hulk616:
director (e.g DC synder)

TheKingIsHere:
The director is to be blamed because he is the one responsible for every decision made while shooting the film. And if the dialogue or script isn't favorable or working, he has the power to change it.

Nickshrapnel:
I thought as much, but I've heard of situations whereby a director left a project because he wasn't given much creative control. The people who didn't give that creative control are the producers so I think the director dance to the tune of the producer/production company

TheKingIsHere:
I love the way you guys try to exonerate synder from the massive failure of JL.

Yet will try to include his name for the success of Aquaman. That's real double standards right there.

Also, you said that you can recall 3 lines from MOS and BVS.

I watched all DCEU films last week, I can re-tell what I watched in Aquaman, wonder woman etc but can't even recollect what I watched in BVS and JL, especially JL with the exception of the Aquaman and Amazon's scene. Look at how he made Mera look like someone who was mourning in JL. I was shocked that was amber heard that we fell in loved with in Aquaman film.

hulk616:
this is the only picture on your phone,

Raalsalghul:
Zack Snyder and WB are the cause of every problem in the D.C.E.U

Zack Snyder for BvS critically failing.

WB for allowing the same director who has failed them over the years helm a big event film like JL even after the failure of BvS.

TheKingIsHere:
Is it paining you?

Raalsalghul:
Zack Snyder and WB are the cause of every problem in the D.C.E.U

Zack Snyder for BvS critically failing.

WB for allowing the same director who has failed them over the years helm a big event film like JL even after the failure of BvS.

TheKingIsHere:
Lol, you have a point, that's why I said that WB really tried for ungrateful Zack Snyder and his wife

SMUAG:
Haha. Zack was never the problem, WB is. Zack's previous movies before dceu ( aside Sucker punch) were great, even MoS was far a superior movies than what other companies put on the big screen. But because WB wanted to count their chicken before they were hashed cause everything. Still BvS: Extended edition was well grounded despite the rush.
All the easter eggs work put in MoS was to set the pace for the sequel or next movie in the right path, and not to rush things, but the greedy producers wanted more than that. So we should leave Zack out of it.
[b]Just look at our pathetic Captain Marvel was yet it was certified fresh. [/b]Can we honestly say that Captain Marvel is a better movie than MoS or BvS: Extended? The answer is NO!
When your house is divided you will definitely attract rodents to feast there...

SMUAG:
Haha. Zack was never the problem, WB is. Zack's previous movies before dceu ( aside Sucker punch) were great, even MoS was far a superior movies than what other companies put on the big screen. But because WB wanted to count their chicken before they were hashed cause everything. Still BvS: Extended edition was well grounded despite the rush.
All the easter eggs work put in MoS was to set the pace for the sequel or next movie in the right path, and not to rush things, but the greedy producers wanted more than that. So we should leave Zack out of it.
Just look at our pathetic Captain Marvel was yet it was certified fresh. Can we honestly say that Captain Marvel is a better movie than MoS or BvS: Extended? The answer is NO!
When your house is divided you will definitely attract rodents to feast there...

SMUAG:
Haha. Zack was never the problem, WB is. Zack's previous movies before dceu ( aside Sucker punch) were great, even MoS was far a superior movies than what other companies put on the big screen. But because WB wanted to count their chicken before they were hashed cause everything. Still BvS: Extended edition was well grounded despite the rush.

All the easter eggs work put in MoS was to set the pace for the sequel or next movie in the right path, and not to rush things, but the greedy producers wanted more than that. So we should leave Zack out of it.

Just look at our pathetic Captain Marvel was yet it was certified fresh. Can we honestly say that Captain Marvel is a better movie than MoS or BvS: Extended? The answer is NO!

When your house is divided you will definitely attract rodents to feast there...

TheKingIsHere:
How is WB the problem? A company that still gave him and his wife years to direct after their constant failure? Take note that ungrateful Zack synder has 8 movies made, and 7 were under WB as shown in the image..Out of that 7 for WB, only 2 were successful , the rest were failures.... Doesnt that show that WB tried for years despite his constant failures? Also, note that before DCEU, the only films that was successful for WB was 300 (with the exception of Dawn of the Dead under universal). The rest like Watchmen, Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole, Sucker Punch were massive failures and you are here telling me that WB is the problem not Zack? SMH


I love the way you guys always manufacture excuses for a failure. Okay, lets assume the producers were rushing things for Mos, what about watchmen? Zack was given all the time in the world for that film but yet it failed. So what happened?


Captain marvel rode on the waves of Endgame so we knew what will happen. Even movies like sharknado is certified fresh with a high score.


You should give this advise to synder fans

TheKingIsHere:
The director is to be blamed because he is the one responsible for every decision made while shooting the film. And if the dialogue or script isn't favorable or working, he has the power to change it.

SMUAG:
First, I would really like to know what do you really classified as failure....
Secondly, almost all the movies you mentioned here, excluding dceu era, didn't have pacing issue; neither did they have producers/company's interference and you need to know that not all good movies make Juggernaut box office numbers, in fact majority of them don't.
OK, if you called those movies failure, then what would you call: the incredible hulk, captain america1 and the "Almighty" thor? These movies with production budgets above $100m each and couldn't reach $400m mark. Remember these 3 characters have been a major households names for very long time....
This is where patient comes in, give who ever is charge the freedom to actualize his/her plan.
Imaging WB given Zack and team the freedom to build from MoS, MoS2 would surely do a better figure at the box office.
WB is the most unstable movie studio out there currently - once your first try wasn't that great, then forget it you are cancelled already. Now they are saying they want to have 2 different universe with (likely) same characters lol!!! In order for them to do soft-rebooting.
For the record, the justice league we saw on the big screen was never Zack's version, my brother. That was WB and Wheddon's version. Turning batman to p****ies.

Minemrys:
m0st of them barely have creative freed0m in the case of a studio film. Google sam raimi vs s0ny pictures [the spiderman 3 saga] and why rick famuyiwa had to leave the flash film. M0st times their decisi0ns are overhauled, end up getting cut or them working as yes men for the executives.

Nickshrapnel:
I thought as much, but I've heard of situations whereby a director left a project because he wasn't given much creative control. The people who didn't give that creative control are the producers so I think the director dance to the tune of the producer/production company

TheKingIsHere:
Well, I believe that the only person that has a higher authority than the director is the company/studio itself. The producer doesn't really have a say on how the film should go, he only oversees mostly the financial part. Like hiring, getting a director, script writer, budget financing etc

Unless the film producer is well renowned (e.g James Cameron etc), then they can affect the direction of the film, as the studio will give a listening ear to his complaints

SMUAG:
Haha. Zack was never the problem, WB is. Zack's previous movies before dceu ( aside Sucker punch) were great, even MoS was far a superior movies than what other companies put on the big screen. But because WB wanted to count their chicken before they were hashed cause everything. Still BvS: Extended edition was well grounded despite the rush.
All the easter eggs work put in MoS was to set the pace for the sequel or next movie in the right path, and not to rush things, but the greedy producers wanted more than that. So we should leave Zack out of it.
Just look at our pathetic Captain Marvel was yet it was certified fresh. Can we honestly say that Captain Marvel is a better movie than MoS or BvS: Extended? The answer is NO!
When your house is divided you will definitely attract rodents to feast there...

TheKingIsHere:
Famuyiwa left because he couldnt give what was wanted. WB wanted a dark flash movie and famuyiwa was providing a comedy.

So it is reasonable why they had to drop him as he couldnt give them what they wanted

emmy2807:
Guys, can anyone help me with the full list of all dc based series.
am 3familiar with doom patrol, supergirl, flash, arrow, legends of tomorrow, swamp thing, titans. is there any other apart from these?

TheKingIsHere:
Like i said, i love the way you guys generate excuses for synder the failure.

Now, I have said it several times and even to MCU fanboys that these movies the "incredible hulk, captain america1 and the "Almighty" thor" were all failures. Everyone knows that.

But the thing you didnt get is that all the people that directed these movies were all dropped/sacked from their respective sequels despite their smaller budget. The person that directed Thor1 is not the one that directed thor 2 or thor3. Same for captain america1. Even the incredible hulk has been in limbo because of the massive failure but you dont see some of their fans causing a problem for the studio because of it.

Now compare the situation to Zack synder who was given a higher budget but kept failing year in year out, and despite his failures, the company still hired him for other films to direct. If it was another studio, they would have dropped his failed ass a long time ago.

Minemrys:
oga, stop c0nfusing yourself. If a studio wants to make a film fr0m a script they have faith in, and they hire a director, they hand to him laid down rules and patterns to follow. He doesn't possess total c0ntrol over the final product. Why? The studio if they d0n't trust the director like they would people like N0lan and Spielberg, would n0t give the director creative freed0m. The executive producer is a representative of the studio and in turn the financer. He has powers depending on who the director is. If the studio trusts the director, the executive producer would just act as a m0nitor to see if things go according to budget. But if the studio doesn't trust the director, the exec influences the story and script. Why? The studio owns the film and the director. But in the case where the director wants to produce a film fr0m his m0ney, he has all the c0ntrol he wants. But in a studio film, c0ntrol is dependent on trust. Or why do u hear directors c0mplain of their films being deleted, their lack of input in their own films when they work for studios? E.g marc webb, and James wan even did menti0n of it at the early stage of his career.

Minemrys:
so who has c0ntrol on studio m0vies then? And why didn't wb c0nfirm this to famuyiwa prior to employing him? And pls, its n0t like famuyiwa hasn't made a dark film b4. He made Dope. That wasn't a c0medy. So, it's m0re than that.

TheKingIsHere:
The studio can make decisions whenever it deemed fit as they run business not sentiments.

Disney dropped star wars9 director over creative differences, there was no pronounced fuse. In fact, Disney has a record for dropping its star wars directors, but you will never heat a fuse about it. Only synder fans make fuse about everything just to snap back at WB