eni4real:
Ronaldo is a greater entertainer than Messi. Messi don't entertain that much. He is focused on goals, assists and chance creation...

Messi is uncharacteristic in Argentina because his roles are different.. .

No talented Midfielder in Argentina. No one to fill Riquelme boot. Messi usually dropoed deep.

In 2016, he had Banega and Biglia bit these guys get overwhelmed against a more talented/creative Midfield opponents.. Messi drop deep most of the time for Argentina
At least since 2010 (Maradona coaching era.)

If Ronaldo did the same for Portugal, the he would have won that tournament golden ball.
Sincerely, Ronaldo struggled to play that tournament. He was not fit. But he managed and did well against Hungary, Wales and tried against Iceland
But the Midfielf trio of Mourinho, Sanchez and Williams did a lot of cool job in all games especially those extra time games...

And then Patricio, Pepe, Fonte etc did well in defence...

I don't know if Coach Santos is being lucky, but with all the games he played without Ronaldo I must say that Fernando Santos is the best Coach Portugal has ever had. Forget Carlos Querois or Felipe Scolari!!!


So many positive things played out for Ronaldo in Portugal, not just only CR7 ...

CR7 vs Messi cannot be based on Euro 2016 and UNL 2019 because Cristiano did not rule these tournaments like R9, Zizou etc usually do when their countries win trophies. They are usually the king( Golden ball winners) of those tournaments...

Ronaldo should thank the group and Eder!!!

Just as Messi should thank Martinez that he is still in Brazil... Zizou or Ronaldo never won the golden ball as winners

Blabbermouth:

Depends on the player. Stop shiting this awards because Ronaldo is behind messi (considering them) . Its making u sound dumb

While Ronaldo is ahead of Messi when it comes to national trophies... Anyone will take the thophy ahead of any nonsense ball... Balon d'Or is the Koko

Beverlyjean:


Winning trophies in one league is trash... Barcelona is the best team in Spain and they have no rivals... He will always win it like juve.. or Bayern... It's not easy doing it in different leagues... Look at how Messi has been struggling in Argentina over the years... Ronaldo has done it for Portugal twice.... That's what they call tested and trusted

U just don't get.
He didn't spear head those Portugal trophies like other greats did when they win a trophy for their national team.

Beverlyjean:


The truth is that no one will care about those Holden balls in the future... Balon d'Or supercedes all those nonsense... No one cares about winning European golden boot... If u are asked who won the golden ball in 1990 , u will have to search Google for answers, but if they ask u who won balon d'Or in 1990, u will easily mention it... If u are asked who won the European golden boot in 1997, u will go back to Google, but if u are asked who won the CL in 97 , u will easily mention it... Priority first

I don't agree with that!!

They are all important...

Ronaldo once said "European Golden boot is better than Ballon d'or because Golden boot is based on your individual stats while Ballon d'or is judged by votes. Stats don't lie" - CR7 in 2015!

They are all relevant. But as time goes by . Memory can fade. But those awards are in the players honors!!!

Wikipedia advent has solved all these problems tho. You can easily look up a player to weigh his greatness. Though that Is not as representative as watching him as an active players when he was reigning...

Beverlyjean:


While Ronaldo is ahead of Messi when it comes to national trophies... Anyone will take the thophy ahead of any nonsense ball... Balon d'Or is the Koko

When messi was leading 4-1 did u consider this??

Blabbermouth:

When messi was leading 4-1 did u consider this??

Yes ... We all did...we believed that Ronaldo will overtake him.... No one ever cared or talked about golden ball...till u Messi fans started looking for some international award to hold on to since he has failed to win one...

Beverlyjean:


While Ronaldo is ahead of Messi when it comes to national trophies... Anyone will take the thophy ahead of any nonsense ball... Balon d'Or is the Koko

Ahem... Now what if??
what if messi wins this Copa?? DAT means??
DAT means Ronaldo has no single hold of greatness over messi.
DO YOU COMPREHEND?
just wait 4 DAT Brazil match for ur shocker

Beverlyjean:


Just as Messi should thank Martinez that he is still in Brazil... Zizou or Ronaldo never won the golden ball as winners

And Messi should thank Higuain for those great misses... A striker like Higuain (Chelsea are enjoying him now )

True but they ruled those World cups( Matterazi prevented Zizou in 06 and Seizure prevented Ronaldo9 in 98, Ronaldo won Silver ball and golden boot in 2002 tho)

May be my examples are not perfect. Suitable examples are Romario in 94, Maradona in 86, Rossi in 82, Kempes in 78, Pele, Garrincha, Didi, Charlton etc...

Blabbermouth:

U just don't get.
He didn't spear head those Portugal trophies like other greats did when they win a trophy for their national team.

So who spare headed the Euros?? Hu was Portugal's best player in euro 16... Portugal scored 9 goals in total... Ronaldo scored 3 and also had 3assists... He was involved in 6 of their 9 goals... So what are u saying??

Beverlyjean:


Yes ... We all did...we believed that Ronaldo will overtake him.... No one ever cared or talked about golden ball...till u Messi fans started looking for some international award to hold on to since he has failed to win one...

Iieeeeeesssssss
U all said it was ojoro, Blatter was a cheat.
Those years did u troll messi for not winning a nation trophy??

Beverlyjean:


So who spare headed the Euros?? Hu was Portugal's best player in euro 16... Portugal scored 9 goals in total... Ronaldo scored 3 and also had 3assists... He was involved in 6 of their 9 goals... So what are u saying??

Nani scored 3 also with 1 assist and was present in the finale.
Eder scored the legendary goal.
Why then didn't he win the golden ball

eni4real:
And Messi should thank Higuain for those great misses... A striker like Higuain (Chelsea are enjoying him now )

True but they ruled those World cups( Matterazi prevented Zizou in 06 and Seizure prevented Ronaldo9 in 98, Ronaldo won Silver ball and golden boot in 2002 tho)

May be my examples are not perfect. Suitable examples are Romario in 94, Maradona in 86, Rossi in 82, Kempes in 78, Pele, Garrincha, Didi, Charlton etc...

Then y mention Messi?? He is in the category of I lost the WC but won golden ball...which makes no sense..he dint even score a goal all thru the knock out.. had just one assist and they dashed him golden ball

Blabbermouth:

Ahem... Now what if??
what if messi wins this Copa?? DAT means??
DAT means Ronaldo has no single hold of greatness over messi.
DO YOU COMPREHEND?
just wait 4 DAT Brazil match for ur shocker

Till then

Blabbermouth:

Ahem... Now what if??
what if messi wins this Copa?? DAT means??
DAT means Ronaldo has no single hold of greatness over messi.
DO YOU COMPREHEND?
just wait 4 DAT Brazil match for ur shocker

Waiting for Brazil vs Argentina b4 ah start my troll

Beverlyjean:

Till then

Brazil would shock u

Blabbermouth:

Nani scored 3 also with 1 assist and was present in the finale.
Eder scored the legendary goal.
Why then didn't he win the golden ball

That's cos it was given to greizman... Ronaldo came second

Beverlyjean:


Then y mention Messi?? He is in the category of I lost the WC but won golden ball...which makes no sense..he dint even score a goal all thru the knock out.. had just one assist and they dashed him golden ball

He had a lot of chance creation. Not just assist. Just like I said he dropped deep most of the tournament... His goals against Iran was borne out of necessity.
He only had a goal spree against Nigeria. Lolz I don't remember how he scored against Bosnia sef...

Watch Argentina vs Switzerland, Belgium and Holland again on YouTube!!! He didn't score but he had great games.. It was only against Holland that he didn't win the MOTM here!!!

I agreed that he was average in the final but Mr Higuain did not help the confidence of the team too!!!

Blabbermouth:

Nani scored 3 also with 1 assist and was present in the finale.
Eder scored the legendary goal.
Why then didn't he win the golden ball

So what's with Nani was present at the final... Was Ronaldo not present... Abi is injury not part of football again... Or u expected him to play with a broken leg?? I don't get u?? It's like saying Salah wasn't present in the CL final against real Madrid...

eni4real:
He had a lot of chance creation. Not just assist. Just like I said he dropped deep most of the tournament... His goals against Iran was borne out of necessity.
He only had a goal spree against Nigeria. Lolz I don't remember how he scored against Bosnia sef...

Watch Argentina vs Switzerland, Belgium and Holland again on YouTube!!! He didn't score but he had great games.. It was only against Holland that he didn't win the MOTM here!!!

I agreed that he was average in the final but Mr Higuain did not help the confidence of the team too!!!

Then y mock Ronaldo at the Euros?? Watch the games against all the teams he played... He imposed himself on every game... Only failed to record an assist or goal in 3games... Then got injured in the final

Beverlyjean:


Then y mock Ronaldo at the Euros?? Watch the games against all the teams he played... He imposed himself on every game... Only failed to record an assist or goal in 3games... Then got injured in the final

How many MOTM in those games he didn't score??

Beverlyjean:


Then y mock Ronaldo at the Euros?? Watch the games against all the teams he played... He imposed himself on every game... Only failed to record an assist or goal in 3games... Then got injured in the final

I get your point...

I think all fanbase are not fair on both... We want them to score the same amount of goals as they did in their clubs..

We want to see hatricks in every games from both...

Not possible!!!

The banter is fun until a fan from a particular group called used adjective like 'woeful or useless'

Messi vs Cristiano will continue to cause war until 2022!!!

nairalee:
Messi, I'm your biggest fan but this one wey u talk na just excuse.

Pls recognize this may be your Last opportunity to win a national trophy to shut up all your critics who use it to run you down against CR7

in all fairness he won the FIFA youth world cup, is that not a national trophy?

Don't get me wrong,I was just trying to avoid using Babe for a nigga,annd u know quite well that some niggas uses Female as their sex here..that's y

Beverlyjean:


So girls should not know about football...I don't understand u... Have u not been watching the female world cup...or is football strictly prohibited for women...I don't get u??

What kind of excuse is this from great Messi?

Beverlyjean:


What did he achieve with his previous role??

what!!! Are you serious? In Copa America 2016 he scored 5 goals and made 4 assists to help his team reach the final. He also had the most MOTM performances as usual.

If you are talking awards (team and individual), U20 world cup trophy, FIFA Olympic Gold, helped his team reach 4 major international finals. Has been awarded player of the tournament (Golden Ball) at least once in all the tournaments he has ever featured in (including the World Cup).

Beverlyjean:


While Ronaldo is ahead of Messi when it comes to national trophies... Anyone will take the thophy ahead of any nonsense ball... Balon d'Or is the Koko

oga they are both important.

The trophy is a team achievement and is an award for being the 'best' team. The golden ball is an award for being the best player. It's that individual award that is testament to the fact that a player did better than anyone else in the tournament.

A player like Pedro has won every major trophy you can think of, yet no one places him on the same pedestal as Messi or Ronaldo that have not won the world cup with their teams. That's because when it ultimately comes to deciding who is a better player, team awards aren't nearly as important as individual awards.

Ronaldo has never been rated the best player in any international tournament he has featured in, and he has played in about 9 of them (4 world cups, 4 Euros, 1 confederations cup). That's minus the friendly Euro Nations Cup.

If trophies are all that matter, Pedro is a greater player than Cristiano.

Bahddo:
oga they are both important.

The trophy is a team achievement and is an award for being the 'best' team. The golden ball is an award for being the best player. It's that individual award that is testament to the fact that a player did better than anyone else in the tournament.

A player like Pedro has won every major trophy you can think of, yet no one places him on the same pedestal as Messi or Ronaldo that have not won the world cup with their teams. That's because when it ultimately comes to deciding who is a better player, team awards aren't nearly as important as individual awards.

Ronaldo has never been rated the best player in any international tournament he has featured in, and he has played in about 9 of them (4 world cups, 4 Euros, 1 confederations cup). That's minus the friendly Euro Nations Cup.

If trophies are all that matter, Pedro is a greater player than Cristiano.

I still don't agree with you cos the balon d'Or supercedes it ...

Bahddo:
what!!! Are you serious? In Copa America 2016 he scored 5 goals and made 4 assists to help his team reach the final. He also had the most MOTM performances as usual.

If you are talking awards (team and individual), U20 world cup trophy, FIFA Olympic Gold, helped his team reach 4 major international finals. Has been awarded player of the tournament (Golden Ball) at least once in all the tournaments he has ever featured in (including the World Cup).

No one remembers loosers , only winners... Reaching the final is bullsh.it... winning it is the Koko... Hu cares about loosing finalists ??

The Brazilian coach Title also complained about the pitches......its not abt messi

Beverlyjean:


No one remembers loosers , only winners... Reaching the final is bullsh.it... winning it is the Koko... Hu cares about loosing finalists ??

yeah, you have amnesia so you don't remember what you always use to troll Messi. Evidently you care. Oga tell me something else.

Reaching the final isn't bullshit. The team that loses in the final is better than the one that didn't even get there. That's a silver medal for international competitions.

Anyone with at least two braincells would know that you need to reach the final to win it. Every team that competes in a tournament first strives to reach the final first, before trying to win the trophy.

Beverlyjean:


I still don't agree with you cos the balon d'Or supercedes it ...

why are you arguing like someone who knows nothing about football? Ballon d'Or is an award by a french magazine for a period spanning a year. Not only is it a glorified award for champion's league these days, it does not even tell who the better person in international colors is.

Facts remain that you guys have been pushing anti-Messi propaganda. It is actually Ronaldo who has been subpar in international colors. He has never been recognized as the best player in any international tournament, despite taking all the glory afterward for any success.

If you are the best in an international tournament you win the Golden ball. If your team is the best, they win the trophy. Portugal won two trophies because Eder and Guedes scored in the final when the team needed a win.

Messi is usually brilliant in an Argentina jersey. His numerous personal accolades in international football speak for him, but you trolls want to judge the individual based on a collective award and write off the awards that really tell who the better player is.