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Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by itsme01: 10:33am On Jul 01, 2019
jaxxy:
It’s this cost effective and sustainable. If the government starts such huge capital projects in the North it is still we in the south especially ss and Sw that will complain. I think the government I look for a simpler, practical and less capital intensive solution. Is there any? We have lots of natural vegetation that are abandoned and not even used for farming in many states. Is it logical to then spend so much money we don’t hv building an artificial one up in the north?

Is there a better solution or is that the only solution?
we need short and long term solution, RUGA might be a short term solution that handles herdsmen,but what of northern farmers.. remember of the story of the hausa secuirity guard who rejected a house and insisted a borehole be sunk in his village... State and Local goverment allocation can be channeled into building Dams, and if FG wishes to invest then it should be able to drive hydroturbine and provide power to the national grid. with 3% annual population growth i dont think any southern state would want encroachment of their land especially for a trade they are not into.

The more we discuss issues like this the more solutions would spring up
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by OLUWABIG(m): 10:36am On Jul 01, 2019
*Hon.Justice Adewale Thompson’s 1969 Judgment on Open Cattle Grazing - Suit no AB/26/66.*
Hon.Justice Adewale Thompson: 17th April,1969.
Suit no AB/26/66 at Abeokuta Division of the High Court.

"I do not accept the contention of Defendants that a custom exists which imposes an obligation on the owner of farm to fence his farm whilst the owner of cattle allows his cattle to wander like pests and cause damage. Such a custom if it exists, is unreasonable and I hold that it is repugnant to natural justice, equity and good conscience and therefore unenforceable...in that it is highly unreasonable to impose the burden of fencing a farm on the farmer without the corresponding obligation on the cattle owner to fence in his cattle." Sequence to that I banned open grazing for it is inimical to peace and tranquillity and the cattle owners must fence or ranch their animals for peace to reign in these communities."

Please share to create awareness since am sure nobody appealed against this decision, so it's law and any open grazing is a violation of the law
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by lastmessenger: 10:43am On Jul 01, 2019
Benekruku:
You have a right to you opinion. I stand for whats right and not blinded by hate, religion and tribalism!
bla bla bla bla. Brainless id.iot. go give them your father's land
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by Euny86: 10:45am On Jul 01, 2019
UN should interfare on this RUGA thing. How on earth can a president use tax payers money and plan to build settlement for the fulani that is carrying gun and be killing innocent citizens? What have have they (FG) done to those families that have being killed by fulani herdsmen? They are trying to fix terrorist all over d 36 states and be sponsoring them for more killing. Let FG rehablitate textile and creat more jobs for nigeria youths.
What about second niger-bridge, enugu-onitsha road, draining of river niger, rail way to south-easth, portharcourt- aba road? May the Almighty God open earth to swallow all ur evil minds.
All i know is that there was a country. 8-)
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by Benekruku(m): 10:46am On Jul 01, 2019
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lastmessenger:
bla bla bla bla. Brainless id.iot. go give them your father's land
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Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by Kennydoc(m): 10:48am On Jul 01, 2019
itsme01:
grin

as expected sentiment above logical reasoning... even after putting up link of who is in charge of Land and C of O issuance ..


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Does FG not have land in every state? How are you sure they not building the Ruga on one of the FG lands in Benue State?
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by itsme01: 10:53am On Jul 01, 2019
Kennydoc:
Does FG not have land in every state? How are you sure they not building the Ruga on one of the FG lands in Benue State?
If you had taken your time to educate yourself on the subject you wont be asking this question.... is it a crime for black people to read before reacting? atleast study the subject matter
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by Kennydoc(m): 11:01am On Jul 01, 2019
itsme01:
If you had taken your time to educate yourself on the subject you wont be asking this question.... is it a crime for black people to read before reacting? atleast study the subject matter
Taa, comot! So because FG said 12 states applied for it, you want me to believe that Benue and Taraba governors applied to have Ruga settlements built in their states, when they have been insisting on either ranching or nothing?
I have no reason to trust this FG, not one!
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by Laid2001: 11:03am On Jul 01, 2019
Are you a rapist?
What has Rape allegation got to do with Ruga.

Every rape allegation must be investigated and prosecuted if found plausible by the police.


Dpharisee:
You are the one who is actually ignorant.
The FG has informed Nigerians that the Federal government owns lands in states that are gazetted, the FG can decide to use its own lands in states without the Governors to set up Ruga

Meanwhile, they tried to divert our attention with COZA rape accusationsbut failed
We will continue to tell Buhari that Ruga is not welcome because cattle rearing is private business
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by Glory2DLamb(m): 11:04am On Jul 01, 2019
itsme01:
grin


Too many people are ignorant of Nigerian laws... only a state government can issue a land to any one,... if Federal Government got a land in Benue then hold Ortom responsible, and if he acts dumb, make your state lawmakers threaten him with impeachment.

If you dont know anything about the laws governing you, often times you act wrongly thinking you are acting rightly... Protest should be lead to the Governors offices and State Assemblies or else FG would be unstoppable

www.nigeria-law.org/Land%20Use%20Act.htm

take my state Oyo for instance, Ajimobi sternly refused giving land to FG even after Audu Ogbeh visited to lobby him, and am sure Makinde doesnt have plans for that either.. Ajimobi issued land to Ameachi for Ibadan Dry port and to Fashola for the FG mass housing scheme

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/ruga-settlements-not-for-fulani-alone-says-presidency/ar-AADEsq6

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As Humans and not Animals we must not only cry and rant, we must offer solutions to our recurrent problems

Northern state should prioritize building more Dams for irrigation and other purposes.. Global warming is just in its preliminary stage and North is facing challenges, look at Egypt and what they did with Nile, Even UAE, Isreal and Saudi Import soils and build Dams to make life in the desert a wonderful one .. this i think is more sustainable.. Africans cant just migrate everytime they face chalenges

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You are right about those other countries. Food security informed and motivated their decisions unlike the Nigerian case. The present administration is hellbent on a sectional policy and agenda covered up with lies and propaganda.
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Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by itsme01: 11:05am On Jul 01, 2019
Kennydoc:
Taa, comot! So because FG said 12 states applied for it, you want me to believe that Benue and Taraba governors applied to have Ruga settlements built in their states, when they have been insisting on either ranching or nothing?
I have no reason to trust this FG, not one!
Then why are they silent? especially Ortom.... Every governor from South both APC and PDP had been making stern statements telling FG and Audu ogbeh fvck off... ecxept middlebelt state officials, why?
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by Glory2DLamb(m): 11:10am On Jul 01, 2019
itsme01:
grin


Too many people are ignorant of Nigerian laws... only a state government can issue a land to any one,... if Federal Government got a land in Benue then hold Ortom responsible, and if he acts dumb, make your state lawmakers threaten him with impeachment.

If you dont know anything about the laws governing you, often times you act wrongly thinking you are acting rightly... Protest should be lead to the Governors offices and State Assemblies or else FG would be unstoppable

www.nigeria-law.org/Land%20Use%20Act.htm

take my state Oyo for instance, Ajimobi sternly refused giving land to FG even after Audu Ogbeh visited to lobby him, and am sure Makinde doesnt have plans for that either.. Ajimobi issued land to Ameachi for Ibadan Dry port and to Fashola for the FG mass housing scheme

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/ruga-settlements-not-for-fulani-alone-says-presidency/ar-AADEsq6

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As Humans and not Animals we must not only cry and rant, we must offer solutions to our recurrent problems

Northern state should prioritize building more Dams for irrigation and other purposes.. Global warming is just in its preliminary stage and North is facing challenges, look at Egypt and what they did with Nile, Even UAE, Isreal and Saudi Import soils and build Dams to make life in the desert a wonderful one .. this i think is more sustainable.. Africans cant just migrate everytime they face chalenges

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You are right about those other countries. Food security informed and motivated their decisions unlike the Nigerian case. The present administration is hellbent on a sectional policy and agenda covered up with lies and propaganda.
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Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by itsme01: 11:11am On Jul 01, 2019
Glory2DLamb:
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I want you to understand something even if i dont dispute Buhari's double standards ... Northern Crisis would continue to intensify , Obasanjo saw little , Jonathan saw hell, Buhari is seeing hellfire and should power shift south 2023 the guy would see volcanic hell fire mixed with nuclear doom... and the reason is Global warming, north dont have enough water as we speak they rely on rainfall which is not even enough, and they keep reproducing faster than rabits and to compound this they are using religion to decieve themselves.... Its so bad that Chad and niger People are in Nigerian territory doing everything to survive, Northerners are everywhere in south scraping for anything to survive and their elites are all over Abuja/Kaduna/and Lagos even Atiku couldnt get borehole working in his country home, he had to sink one kilometers faraway and pipe it down to his house
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by psalmylee(m): 11:17am On Jul 01, 2019
Buhari is building Refinery in the North for Oil located in the South & Cattle Ranches in the South for Cows located in the North
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by Pataricatering(f): 11:18am On Jul 01, 2019
Benue is not even one of the states involved in the program .
Esseite:
There is no point arguing with you, you know the truth deep down, choose what to believe, majority have chosen what to believe.

He knew all these and still went ahead to kick off RUGA in Benue despite the Governor against it.
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by Kennydoc(m): 11:19am On Jul 01, 2019
itsme01:
Then why are they silent? especially Ortom.... Every governor from South both APC and PDP had been making stern statements telling FG and Audu ogbeh fvck off... ecxept middlebelt state officials, why?
Can you please share with me the specific statements made by Obiano (Anambra), Ikpeazu (Abia), Dickson (Bayelsa), Abiodun (Ogun), Fayemi (Ekiti) etc, telling FG and Ogbeh to fück off? How many governors have even spoken out in their personal capacities as governors? Umahi only spoke as the Chairman of South East Governors' Forum. South West governors issued a statement together after their security meeting, but none has come out to tell FG off. Why are you now saying Ortom is silent? Who else isn't?

By the way, below is the stand of Benue House of Assembly on the matter.
https://leadership.ng/2019/06/29/benue-assembly-backs-ortom-rejects-ruga-settlements/
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by Pataricatering(f): 11:19am On Jul 01, 2019
There isn’t a single state from the south involved in the program !
psalmylee:
Buhari is building Refinery in the North for Oil located in the South & Cattle Ranches in the South for Cows located in the North
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by Pataricatering(f): 11:24am On Jul 01, 2019
So the fed govt arranged with Busola to frame pastor biodun so people will not pay attention to ruga settlement ? Did you actually read this before you posted it ? How can anyone be this daft ? And u will be going around with a big head full of nothing but mucus !
Dpharisee:
You are the one who is actually ignorant.
The FG has informed Nigerians that the Federal government owns lands in states that are gazetted, the FG can decide to use its own lands in states without the Governors to set up Ruga

Meanwhile, they tried to divert our attention with COZA rape accusationsbut failed
We will continue to tell Buhari that Ruga is not welcome because cattle rearing is private business
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by karma2000: 11:26am On Jul 01, 2019
Glen ghen breeding grounds for Fulani war uploading
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by Omoslim26: 11:27am On Jul 01, 2019
Ruga kor rukayat ni dis buhari no sabi anytin for inside al d problem wey dey dis kon3 na cow na im b him own priority Nigeria don suffer no b small imagine pmb Nigeria president of all d people wey dey dis kon3 na pmb b d way ba?
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by psalmylee(m): 11:27am On Jul 01, 2019
itsme01:
you are bold with your ignorance... FG through garba shehu said only willing states that provided lands would be used, and no land were gazetted for grazing routes

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/ruga-settlements-not-for-fulani-alone-says-presidency/ar-AADEsq6

read properly before misinforming yourself

Coza rape is unfortunate but its non of our business as the courts are open, leave FG out of this..

Cattle rearing is a private business so is Nollywood, if Goodluck jonathan can intervene with government intervention fund with nollywood, then Buhari can intervene in the cattle business so far they pay back every penny and open grazing stops with imediate effect
it's quite unfortunate. if a self proclaimed educated mallam could think this way, how worse will an almajiri who has never stepped foot into the four walls of a classroom think?I give up on u abokis
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by psalmylee(m): 11:31am On Jul 01, 2019
Pataricatering:
There isn’t a single state from the south involved in the program !
there is nothing I can say to convince u.like I said earlier I give up on this zoo.we once had a country BT not anymore. peace to u all.
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by MondayOsunbor(m): 11:31am On Jul 01, 2019
abi una no say NEPA bill certificate is ok as qualification
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by olumalcolm(m): 11:40am On Jul 01, 2019
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Politics / Re: Miyetti Allah Calls For Establishment Of Fulani Vigilantes In South East by olumalcolm(m): 9:10am On Jun 21
When i wrote about these mofos plan on fulanizing Nigeria, one idiot said hw did i knw. Now they hv moved to the nxt stage of the plan, the plan was moved by buhari and his co-horts but they told the machinery to speak out so there wont be outrage frm nigerians cos it would be foolish for them [presidency] to say this hence they pushed miyetti or watsoeva dey r called to push for the agenda, den they approve. Bunch of bastards, sha be prepared, i don tlk my own. Southwest will be the last place to invade cos there are southwesterners close to the top. WAKE UP pple, no more sleep. angry
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by JimohMomoh: 12:19pm On Jul 01, 2019
Am glad people in the middlebelt regions are now speaking up, they were Buhari Ass lickers in 2015, but now their eyes don clear.

Yahaya Bello watchout ,continue licking Buhari's ass, kogites will ensure you don't return for second tenure.
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by Yujin(m): 12:26pm On Jul 01, 2019
nasoeb:
But honestly, we are our own problem. Nigerians are so good with anything theory. We have collectively identify the common problem to Nigeria's growth, but we will not do anything practical about it but choose to complain. The igbos will see the killings of yorubas as a yoruba problem, and the yoruba will see the killing of benue people as north central problem. But we will NOT see that there is a common killer who is determined to "kill" Nigerians in every region (just turn by turn). We just feel relax because for the time been, it's happening in the other region, but let me burst your bubble, the fulanis are not out to kill yorubas or benues or efik and take their lands, they wish and want to kill ALL OF US, from every region and tribe, reduce our population, enthrone their emirs, then force everyone to accept islam. Fela was so right, Nigerians are always too afraid to die.
Stopping fulani and their agenda is so so so easy and can happen in less than a month if every region sees it as a Nigerian problem.
The fulanis are having their ways because they understand the simple division between us Nigerians. They know killing benues, Ijaws will not come to their rescue,..... killing igbos, the yorubas will not come for their rescues.
Let's ask ourselves some simple important questions,
1. whats the population of the fulanis?
2. How many of this fulanis can be in every states killing at each time including their brotgers from niger and chad etc.
If all the regions (youths probably) can harness and fight eliminate every fulanis in their states/regions, cordinate ourselves with arms go into these forests and kill these guys, see an injury to one state or region as injury to every good Nigerian, fighting and killing them from every corner simultaneously, we would have reduce these fulanis to bearest minimum that they cant pose as threat anymore.
Exactly what I've been saying but a lot of naive posters have been talking trash about ' for the interest of peace. I've asked them if all those murdered in their ancestral lands asked for war from the fulani militia but they've refused to respond. The reality is that thousands will die first before all other tribes understand what the Igbos have been saying all along. Posterity has vindicated us. We warned but we were termed 'hateful'. Shit has hit the fan and everyone is cryin. We're watching.
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by BlackLaw: 12:32pm On Jul 01, 2019
itsme01:
grin


Too many people are ignorant of Nigerian laws... only a state government can issue a land to any one,... if Federal Government got a land in Benue then hold Ortom responsible, and if he acts dumb, make your state lawmakers threaten him with impeachment.

If you dont know anything about the laws governing you, often times you act wrongly thinking you are acting rightly... Protest should be lead to the Governors offices and State Assemblies or else FG would be unstoppable

www.nigeria-law.org/Land%20Use%20Act.htm

take my state Oyo for instance, Ajimobi sternly refused giving land to FG even after Audu Ogbeh visited to lobby him, and am sure Makinde doesnt have plans for that either.. Ajimobi issued land to Ameachi for Ibadan Dry port and to Fashola for the FG mass housing scheme

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/ruga-settlements-not-for-fulani-alone-says-presidency/ar-AADEsq6

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As Humans and not Animals we must not only cry and rant, we must offer solutions to our recurrent problems

Northern state should prioritize building more Dams for irrigation and other purposes.. Global warming is just in its preliminary stage and North is facing challenges, look at Egypt and what they did with Nile, Even UAE, Isreal and Saudi Import soils and build Dams to make life in the desert a wonderful one .. this i think is more sustainable.. Africans cant just migrate everytime they face chalenges

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Let's not deceive ourselves, we are under a government that has no regard for due process or law.
As the statement attached here shows, Benue state government did not at any time apply to join their evil scheme. But the Federal government went ahead to implement it despite objections raised by the state government.
Don't be naive about these issues, the federal government can and has bypassed the state government and laws in pursuit of their fulanization goal. What enforcement mechanism do you think is available to the state government?

All of the killings, all of the kidnappings, all of the arson was for this purpose. The attacks were meant to soften us up to this evil initiative, this is their endgame.
It is all part of the plan.
The time has come however, for the citizens to stand up and say NO!
We must RESIST, RESIST and RESIST.
#notoruga

Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by itsme01: 12:34pm On Jul 01, 2019
BlackLaw:
Let's not deceive ourselves, we are under a government that has no regard for due process or law.
As the statement attached here shows, Benue state government did not at any time apply to join their evil scheme. But the Federal government went ahead to implement it despite objections raised by the state government.
Don't be naive about these issues, the federal government can and has bypassed the state government and laws in pursuit of their fulanization goal. What enforcement mechanism do you think is available to the state government?

All of the killings, all of the kidnappings, all of the arson was for this purpose. The attacks were meant to soften us up to this evil initiative, this is their endgame.
It is all part of the plan.
The time has come however, for the citizens to stand up and say NO!
We must RESIST, RESIST and RESIST.
#notoruga
i havent seen Ortom argue with them when they made the statement he gave them lands
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by BlackLaw: 12:41pm On Jul 01, 2019
itsme01:
i havent seen Ortom argue with them when they made the statement he gave them lands
Of course you won't see Ortom arguing with them from your bedroom. Especially when you don't do any research on the topic.
Samuel Ortom for all of his flaws have been steadfast in this matter.
He has severally condemned the idea of ruga or grazing reserve.
Perhaps the screenshot statement (by the Benue state government) attached to my comment can help with your research. Cheers.
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by itsme01: 12:46pm On Jul 01, 2019
BlackLaw:
Of course you won't see Ortom arguing with them from your bedroom. Especially when you don't do any research on the topic.
Samuel Ortom for all of his flaws have been steadfast in this matter.
He has severally condemned the idea of ruga or grazing reserve.
Perhaps the screenshot statement (by the Benue state government) attached to my comment can help with your research. Cheers.
oga stop been sentimental.. post his press release countering garba shehu's statement or keep your arguement with your sentimental peers.

copy and past the link. and stop unnecessary stories.

this is fg is response indicting the governors where is ortoms statement

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/ruga-settlements-not-for-fulani-alone-says-presidency/ar-AADEsq6

some of us dont play all this sentiment nonsense,
Re: Ruga Settlement: Middle Belt Forum Kicks Against Proposed Fulani Settlement by Kolping: 12:52pm On Jul 01, 2019
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