HumanHairLovers:


You're more to be pitied.

You know little or nothing about Jehovah's witnesses.

But you think you know them.

We're the most open minded people in the world.

Who in the whole world forces doctrines on people than churches? What is more dogmatic than feeding people with teachings without authoritative support (i.e on the bible)


Does that make sense to you?
Where is that done?


No one! I repeat No Jw is forced to accept their teachings. Not even their kids.

Everyone is properly taught and asked to go and make their own findings and if they find out otherwise they are free to go.
Same thing Jesus and his disciples did.Luke 24:13, 27, 32. Acts 17:10, 11. 1 Thess. 2:13.


And we would not say a single thing without backing it with the scriptures. 1st timothy 3:16,17


You think they spend hundreds of hours to go to people's house to force teachings on people. Who would spend that much time just to force somebody?

Unlike churches that would hand you flier and tell you just come to church. You tell me what is more dogmatic?


We only desire to reason with people from the bible.


I can only spend time with you if you are ready to be logical. Anything less than that i'll end the discussion.


if you give me a logical point, best i'll do is i'll tell you please let me go and think about this and make some research.


And I repeat you know nothing about God's word! You can't spend the whole Sunday dancing and shouting and expect to know the bible.

Or pack some concocted knowledge from hearsay and say you want to defend the bible. I bet you even a JW kid would school you! John 17:3 PROVERBS 2:3-5.

Your post is, frankly, hilarious and appears to show you don't get it at all.

But, ok. I'll take you on quickly. Just three points to show that you're a programmed computer who know nothing about the Bible and has zero understanding of coercive persuasion and how it's being used on you to manipulated you into thinking you're free.

1. What does the Bible say about house to house preaching? Is it biblical?

2. As a Witness, can you read the Bible for yourself and interprete it how you truly see it? If there's a difference between your thoughts and what you read or between what the Bible says and what JW church teaches, would you humbly pray for understanding or read more of what JW teaches?

3. Are Jehovah's Witnesses prophets or not?

There are 100 more, but let's stick with these three.

achorladey:


Mightysparrow: The Light has never been dim but you ORGANISATION gave it, it's OWN COLOURATION.

Achorladey: This statement of yours above is SIMPLE and CLEAR ENOUGH. What baffles someone is inability of JESUS to pick out 144,000 individuals for 20 centuries.

Yet it will be difficult for JWs to want to read the materials printed 70,80 years ago simply because when they do and finally get to understand the TYPE and ANTITYPE used by the organization as it applies to this topic under consideration during those years, the COLOURATION might come off.

Surely if you fully grasp what is written in the Bible, you'll prefer atheism!

Jesus said to Peter 'if it's my will for him {John} to remain until i return, of what concern is that to you?' John 21:22

Peter {of whom Jesus said 'upon this rock i will build my congregation' Matthew 16:17-19}} went and started spreading misconception amongst the Christians that Jesus actually said 'John will not die before he returns' John 21:23
It was 98 ce after most Christians have died that John now wrote his own gospel account and CORRECTED THAT WRONG NOTION spread by no other person but Peter {one of the twelve Apostles}

Again during the first century, the Christians tried to eradicate poverty from their midst by the system of equity! Act 4:32-37
It was after the system crashed even costing the lives of a Christian couple {Act 5:1-11} that they remembered Jesus' statement when he said 'you will always have poor ones in your midst' {Matthew 26:11, Mark 14:7, John 12:8} immediately they CANCELLED such arrangement without delay, never to be repeated!

So if you lived back then to witness all of these and many more of their mistakes yet they were all BORN AGAIN Christians, would you still continue as a Christian?

JuanDeDios:


Your post is, frankly, hilarious and appears to show you don't get it at all.

But, ok. I'll take you on quickly. Just three points to show that you're a programmed computer who know nothing about the Bible and has zero understanding of coercive persuasion and how it's being used on you to manipulated you into thinking you're free.

1. What does the Bible say about house to house preaching? Is it biblical?

2. As a Witness, can you read the Bible for yourself and interprete it how you truly see it? If there's a difference between your thoughts and what you read or between what the Bible says and what JW church teaches, would you humbly pray for understanding or read more of what JW teaches?

3. Are Jehovah's Witnesses prophets or not?

There are 100 more, but let's stick with these three.

(1) The best way to preach is the house to house setting! Matthew 10:12-13, Luke 10:5, Act 20:20
It gives two persons the opportunity to reason deeply and logically from the scriptures {Malachi 3:16} before agreeing on what God requires of them both and after concluding on this their hearts are tied together as one making them brothers! John 17:20-23
(2)Of course everyone will like to read God's word on his/her own without anyone navigating their thoughts towards a specific religious setting. But God never arranged it that way! {Daniel 12:8-10} you need to reexamine what you're reading with more than one person {Act 17:11} because human's hearts are treacherous and deceiving {Jeremiah 17:9} otherwise you'll keep quoting God's word against others but you'll never see you own mistakes! That's why God gave the gift of INTERPRETATION to some and the only way to recognise those given this spirit is the same THEORY, PRACTICAL APPLICATION and BENEFITS that will follow! Over 8,000,000 individuals from different races across the globe have witnessed that the spirit given to those OLD guys in America is unique and working out what is good {James 2:18-26} so we TRUST their interpretations! Hebrews 13:7
(3) Of course we're prophets, but unlike ancient prophets of old who hears directly from God {Hebrews 1:1} we read, study meditate thoroughly on God's word and help others to know what God has promised obedient mankind for the future! Psalms 37:7-11,67:6, Proverbs 2:20-22, Isaiah 35:6,65:21-25, Daniel 2:44, Matthew 5:5, Revelations 21:1-3
Jesus has completed the WORD {Revelations 22:18-19} and made sure it's all penned down as one volume of document, whoever disagrees with what those who have concluded as one body {John 17:20-23}teaches is on his/her own! Matthew 16:19

All those who refuses to acknowledge this fact will continue to contradict one another and deceiving one another because they're NOT with the REAL body of Christ Spiritually speaking so THEY ARE SCATTERED! Luke 11:23

So go and search if you'll ever find any other united global family of peace-loving worshippers apart from Jehovah's Witnesses! Isaiah 2:2-4, Micah 4:3-4

JuanDeDios:


Your post is, frankly, hilarious and appears to show you don't get it at all.

But, ok. I'll take you on quickly. Just three points to show that you're a programmed computer who know nothing about the Bible and has zero understanding of coercive persuasion and how it's being used on you to manipulated you into thinking you're free.

Thank-You for taking me on quickly

1. What does the Bible say about house to house preaching? Is it biblical?

Acts 20:20 New International Version (NIV)

20 You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house.


Acts 5:42 New International Version (NIV)

42 Day after day, in the temple courts and from house to house, they never stopped teaching and proclaiming the good news that Jesus is the Messiah.

Acts 10:42 New Living Translation
And he ordered us to preach everywhere and to testify that Jesus is the one appointed by God to be the judge of all—the living and the dead

He commanded them to preach thoroughly.


Jesus himself gave the command himself

Matthew 10:11-14 New International Version (NIV)

11 Whatever town or village you enter, search there for some worthy person and stay at their house until you leave. 12 As you enter the home, give it your greeting. 13 If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.

2. As a Witness, can you read the Bible for yourself and interprete it how you truly see it? If there's a difference between your thoughts and what you read or between what the Bible says and what JW church teaches, would you humbly pray for understanding or read more of what JW teaches?

No Jw preaches what Jw church teaches.
The Bible teaches the only way to understand the Bible and that is how Jesus, his disciples and each of us learn the Bible

Luke 24:27,32
And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.

32 They asked each other, “Were not our hearts burning within us while he talked with us on the road and opened the Scriptures to us?”

The Bible is a complete book.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 New International Version (NIV)

16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.


Have you seen anything that Jw teaches or do that is not in the Bible?

3. Are Jehovah's Witnesses prophets or not?

There are 100 more, but let's stick with these three.

We're no prophets. And the Bible does not teach they'll be prophets of God today.

Since you took me quickly let me break you bone gently so that it'll not look like you're the only one know how to fire gun shot

Just 3 questions like you

They're same questions you asked but turned around

1) Does the shouting your so called church preachers do shouting in every corner up and down claiming they're preaching biblical?



2)Is it biblical to explain the Bible with your own understanding?


3)I hear you guys have prophets. What do they do? Prophecy about their church members or to themselves or what? Have they ever prophesied anything that is beyond what is in the Bible? Tell me please one of the prophecies?

Maximus69:

@Maximus69 please leave me to handle that man @JuanDeDios alone

If he doesn't act properly I'll hand him over to the kids section

HumanHairLovers:


@Maximus69 please leave me to handle that man @JuanDeDios alone

Surely i know any Witness of Jehovah is fully competent and completely equipped to handle these novices. 2Timothy 3:16-17
Who is their God and who are their teachers that they should rise up against the armies of JEHOVAH {the one and only living God}
We will silence all of them with the SWORD of the spirit! Hebrews 4:12, Isaiah 54:17

But i just got baptised last month after several years of studying the witness from far distance, i served many years as a military intelligence officer, it's Jehovah's Witnesses that compelled me to drop harmful weapons to become a harmless dove today.

So whenever i come across any of these novice talking against God's arrangement, i just can't help it but to stand up for righteousness! 1Samuel 17:36

Maximus69:

Surely i know any Witness of Jehovah is fully competent and completely equipped to handle these novices. 2Timothy 3:16-17
Who is their God and who are their teachers that they should rise up against the armies of JEHOVAH {the one and only living God}
We will silence all of them with the SWORD of the spirit! Hebrews 4:12, Isaiah 54:17

Hahha...they're truly laughable, very ignorant and most to be pitied!

But i just got baptised last month after several years of studying the witness from far distance, i served many years as a military intelligence officer, it's Jehovah's Witnesses that compelled me to drop harmful weapons to become a harmless dove today.

Wow, this is such an amazing experiencing!

May Jehovah continue to strengthen the love and zeal you show.

Welcome to Jehovah's sheep fold. There is nothing more important than to hold on to the real life!

So whenever i come across any of these novice talking against God's arrangement, i just can't help it but to stand up for righteousness! 1Samuel 17:36

That's the right thing brother. We can't allow them to go on soiling and shaming Jehovah's name day in day out.

Justc:


Well.....


They are doing the work our Lord and Savior Jesus command us all to do. So praise them if we can't do better.

good. for those of us who are by God's grace, Christians, we see inconsistencies in their teachings and now when we question them they ask to be left alone. is dat possible?

ifyboy60:


good. for those of us who are by God's grace, Christians, we see inconsistencies in their teachings and now when we question them they ask to be left alone. is dat possible?

The inconsistencies is not from God but due to mortal men receiving instructions from an invisible perfect counselor. So there must be disparities due to the low thinking faculties of mortals, but that doesn't mean God will now condone disorder!
He will choose one person or a group of persons to pass information, it's only when they feel they're not to be tutored like kids that God forgo them!
You can read through the pages of the Bible, you'll never find any messenger of God that doesn't make mistakes yet God will never tolerate disorder as in speaking against his servant! Numbers 12:1-16

Jesus said BY THEIR FRUIT you will recognize both the true servants of God, and fake servants as well! Matthew 7:15-20
So go and make your PERSONAL research about the FRUIT Jesus mentioned or the WORKS of true faith as spoken by James 2:18-26

Nobody asks you not to question the JWs, but don't rely on the failed theories of the Churches of Christendom!

There are three factors to assess divine wisdom!
¤THEORY
¤PRACTICAL APPLICATION and
¤BENEFITS

All along the way you'll surely notice inconsistency due to the inadequacy of mortal men to grasp divine instructions but because God always choose humble persons for his job, they'll take to corrections and by the end everyone will SEE the benefits of what God instructed them to do! Matthew 5:14-16
The Churches of Christendom have been feeding their adherents for over 1,800 with the same THEORY but it has yielded NOTHING worthwhile rather it has brought divisions and crisis upon the human race. Jehovah's Witnesses started some 140 years ago and today the whole world can feel their impact as adherents live peacefully with neighbours everywhere you can find them!
So let whoever wants to argue continue to argue {Revelations 22:10-12} honesthearted and sincere observers have taken their stand for the TRUTH! John 8.:32

Maximus69:


The inconsistencies is not from God but due to mortal men receiving instructions from an invisible perfect counselor. So there must be disparities due to the low thinking faculties of mortals, but that doesn't mean God will now condone disorder!
He will choose one person or a group of persons to pass information, it's only when they feel they're not to be tutored like kids that God forgo them!


There are three factors to assess divine wisdom!
¤THEORY
¤PRACTICAL APPLICATION and
¤BENEFITS

God observers have taken their stand for the TRUTH! John 8.:32

thanks for ur explanations, but this inconsistencies are not secondary. they arise from the foundation of Christian beliefs and can't be ignored.

E.g. John 1 Vs 1. the JW bible is VERY different from all other Christian Bible on this.
The Person and position of Jesus Christ.
Historical evidence points to the verse that Jesus was executed on a cross but JW insists he was executed on a pole.

ifyboy60:


thanks for ur explanations, but this inconsistencies are not secondary. they arise from the foundation of Christian beliefs and can't be ignored.

E.g. John 1 Vs 1. the JW bible is VERY different from all other Christian Bible on this.
The Person and position of Jesus Christ.
Historical evidence points to the verse that Jesus was executed on a cross but JW insists he was executed on a pole.

Jesus served his father and God {John 20:17}in many ways! Isaiah 9:6

He was the prophet God promised the nation of Israel that's to come in the manner of Moses. Deuteronomy 18:15-18 The only difference is that while Jesus lived in heaven as a mighty spirit creature, Moses is just one of the descendants of Adam the first human creature!

¤Jesus is to serve as mediator of a covenant and law giver just like Moses{ Galatians 6:2} but his own laws will be written in the heart of his followers NOT on stone tablets or scrolls! Jeremiah 31:31-34
¤Jesus is also to serve as God before antagonists just as Moses served as God before Pharoah of Egypt {Exodus 7:1} inspired writers never distinguished the title 'God' by use of capital or small letters like the translators who thought it's disrespectful to render the title the same way as they render the Gods of other nations {Exodus 20:3,Joshua 24:15} so since most Bible translators are Trinitarians {believing God is three in one} thinking Jesus is one of the Godhead, they rendered the title as if Jesus is the Almighty God! John 1:1
But the correct translations that's not complicating nor confusing will render it this way.
In the beginning WAS the Word,and the Word WAS with God and the Word WAS a god!
You'll notice that no translation omits the past tense used because that's the way the inspired writers penned it down. So Jesus served as God which is why he WAS God like Moses, but they've both served that purpose and presently Jesus is serving in other capacities while Moses is sleeping in death, awaiting resurrection!
Jesus will later hand over everything back to the one who appointed him to serve in all those capacities {1Corinthians 15:27-28} and continue to subject himself to his Father and God just as he used to before God used him as a worker to create many things! Proverbs 8:22-30

Bible > Strong's > Greek > 2316
◄ 2316. theos
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ifyboy60:


thanks for ur explanations, but this inconsistencies are not secondary. they arise from the foundation of Christian beliefs and can't be ignored.

E.g. John 1 Vs 1. the JW bible is VERY different from all other Christian Bible on this.
The Person and position of Jesus Christ.
Historical evidence points to the verse that Jesus was executed on a cross but JW insists he was executed on a pole.

*Ifyboy ,your post borne out of ignorance. No be your fault.

Bible > Strong's > Greek > 2316
◄ 2316. theos
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Strong's Concordance
theos: God, a god
Original Word: θεός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine; Noun,
Masculine
Transliteration: theos
Phonetic Spelling: (theh'-os)
Definition: God, a god
Usage: (a) God, (b) a god,

**Ifyboy, what's the definition of Greek "Theos" in John1:1?

What's the renditions of John1:1 in the Emphatic Diaglott Bible and in (possibly the oldest bible known to man) the Coptic Bible?

Your KJV na infant where the Coptic Bible dey.


Did your KJV say Jesus Christ was hanged on a tree?
Ifyboy, tree na cross?

@ifyboy60

All the Churches of Christendom are leading their followers to destruction, because they've all discovered the fact that Jesus was impaled on a stake {pole} NOT cross as the church fathers fabricated!
He was executed by the Roman authorities, please help yourself by making the research to know for certain how criminals were executed back in the first century Roman province. The Romans have serious issues at hand now because the history records it that criminals were impaled on poles, but the church has been teaching people for almost two thousand years that Jesus died on a CROSS so the church is trying to bury the Roman history while the Italians are insisting that they're not to be controlled by the church.
So check the encyclopedias and see for yourself if it's true that the Italians of the first century truly do execute criminals on Crosses!

Maximus69:


Surely if you fully grasp what is written in the Bible, you'll prefer atheism!

Jesus said to Peter 'if it's my will for him {John} to remain until i return, of what concern is that to you?' John 21:22

Peter {of whom Jesus said 'upon this rock i will build my congregation' Matthew 16:17-19}} went and started spreading misconception amongst the Christians that Jesus actually said 'John will not die before he returns' John 21:23
It was 98 ce after most Christians have died that John now wrote his own gospel account and CORRECTED THAT WRONG NOTION spread by no other person but Peter {one of the twelve Apostles}

Again during the first century, the Christians tried to eradicate poverty from their midst by the system of equity! Act 4:32-37
It was after the system crashed even costing the lives of a Christian couple {Act 5:1-11} that they remembered Jesus' statement when he said 'you will always have poor ones in your midst' {Matthew 26:11, Mark 14:7, John 12:8} immediately they CANCELLED such arrangement without delay, never to be repeated!

So if you lived back then to witness all of these and many more of their mistakes yet they were all BORN AGAIN Christians, would you still continue as a Christian?

Maximus69: Surely if you fully grasp what is written in the Bible, you'll prefer atheism! cheesy

Achorladey: What I know and equally sure you know is God's word is to make man equipped for good works.

Maximus69: Jesus said to Peter 'if it's my will for him {John} to remain until i return, of what concern is that to you?' John 21:22

Achorladey: And so?

Maximus69: Peter {of whom Jesus said 'upon this rock i will build my congregation' Matthew 16:17-19}} went and started spreading misconception amongst the Christians that Jesus actually said 'John will not die before he returns' John 21:23

Achorladey:Here is John 21:23 So the saying circulated among the brothers and sisters that this disciple was not going to die. But Jesus did not say to him that he was not going to die, but rather, “If I want him to live until I come back, what concern is that of yours?”

I didn't see Peter being mentioned CATEGORICALLY Oga Maximus69.

Maximus69 It was 98 ce after most Christians have died

Achorladey: How did you know that MOST CHRISTIANS have died by then, your REFERENCE POINT Oga Maximus69!


Maximus69: that John now wrote his own gospel account and CORRECTED THAT WRONG NOTION spread by no other person but Peter {one of the twelve Apostles}

Achorladey: show me where the correction was recorded and where Peter was pointed at in particular for spreading the wrong NOTION.

Maximus69: Again during the first century, the Christians tried to eradicate poverty from their midst by the system of equity! Act 4:32-37

Achorladey: Don't know when Peter, John Phillip set up POVERTY SUPORT PROGRAMME to eradicate poverty. Continue to assume and speculate on things you are not sure of.

Maximus69: It was after the system crashed even costing the lives of a Christian couple {Act 5:1-11} that they remembered

Achorladey: Who told you it was the happening recorded in that Act 5:1 that crashed the "POVERTY SUPPORT PROGRAMME"

Maximus69: Jesus' statement when he said 'you will always have poor ones in your midst' {Matthew 26:11, Mark 14:7, John 12:8} immediately they CANCELLED such arrangement without delay, never to be repeated!

Achorladey: I am still wondering who set up the arrangement that needs to CANCELLED.

Maximus69: So if you lived back then to witness all of these and many more of their mistakes yet they were all BORN AGAIN Christians, would you still continue as a Christian?

Achorladey: Did they become BORN AGAIN in order not to make MISTAKES? Did we become CHRISTIANS in order not to make mistakes?

That's why Peter emphatically STRESSED in 1 Peter 2: 21 In fact, to this course you were called, because even Christ suffered for you, leaving a model for you to follow his steps closely.

Just study your Bible and meditate as you have refused to allow the chosen to assist you!

Jesus said that to Peter and John heard it, Peter is the only Apostle that's always presumptuous in many things! And he was still very much around when the rumor went around, so if he is not the one who spread it please who else could?
Because the writer mentioned just two persons in connection to the incident and we all know how eager Peter is in forwarding!
Remember Peter was the Apostle that
¤Jumped into the sea to walk!
¤Answered Jesus when he asked about his identity!
¤Entered the tomb first even though slow to get there!
¤Spoke when Jesus was transfigured!
¤Rebuked Jesus concerning his death!
¤Draw out a, sword to fight!
¤Drew back not to be seen by Jewish Christians!
Now only Peter and John were mentioned in connection with this event, and you're still arguing he couldn't have done that?
Please go and find someone to argue with Sir, i'm not your type!

Janosky:


You no fit know who go dey Bubu cabinet yet you want to decide who Jehovah will choose as a co-ruler with Christ.
OK nau ... continue to deceive yourself.

Jesus disciples moved on from their poor perception about Jesus teachings as he opened their minds to get better understanding of the truth. Luke 19:11. Luke 24:44,45.

Go & pack the science textbooks wey you use for primary school give your child wey dey enter primary one... You know, after reading them, his brain will be sharper than yours..

Janosky: You no fit know who go dey Bubu cabinet yet you want to decide who Jehovah will choose as a co-ruler with Christ.

Achorladey: The leaders of the Organization you are a member teach so many things concerning 144,000. The supposed CO-RULERS of CHRIST.

Here you are trying to show my limitations as to not being ABLE to tell correctly who BUBU CABINET members will be.

It would be interesting to throw a similar question like this to the leaders of the ORGANIZATION you are a MEMBER of. The question goes thus..........

HOW did the GOVERNING BODY know that as at the time from +/- 1800 to +/-1935 when the religion of JWS came into the scene that the 144,000 that God want to use as CORULERS with Jesus Christ have either been COMPLETED or NOT COMPLETED?

Janosky:OK nau ... continue to deceive yourself.

Achorladey: It's not a matter of DECEIVING oneself. It's about someone using ASSUMPTIONS and SPECULATIONS as biblical TEACHINGS.

Janosky: Jesus disciples moved on from their poor perception about Jesus teachings as he opened their minds to get better understanding of the truth. Luke 19:11. Luke 24:44,45.

Achorladey: As long as you know that CHRIST TEACHINGS and TRUTH under consideration here didn't FLUNCTUATE or go back and forth. Jesus consistently states none of his words will pass AWAY. That cannot be said of JWS teachings.

The reason someone said on this THREAD that go back in time 70-80 years ago and check the TEACHINGS and the ESTABLISHED TRUTH from the organization you are a member of , you will indeed find out the LIGHT/ TRUTH contained in THERE and in the numerous publications of the organization. Many have over the period of time BECOME a COLOURATION of the SCRIPTURES.



Janosky: Go & pack the science textbooks wey you use for primary school give your child wey dey enter primary one...

Achorladey: Your mind didn't tell you the way science texts are structured give room for primary one pupils to learn science from the basic level and this shows how well you seem not to understand what we are talking about.

For example SCIENTIFIC METHODS for pre-school pupils is same up till the highest level of education....... OBSERVATION, recording, hypothesis, experiment, blah blah blah.

Good you said Primary one science text for a primary one pupil. The pupil will learn and what is expected to learn will not force a change in the CONTENT of the TEXTBOOK the pupil is required to read.

Janosky: You know, after reading them, his brain will be sharper than yours..

Achorladey: How can't that be when you said I should hand over the text I have used and mastered it content far beyond the time I handed it over to a growing pupil.

Maximus69:
Just study your Bible and meditate as you have refused to allow the chosen to assist you!

Jesus said that to Peter and John heard it, Peter is the only Apostle that's always presumptuous in many things! And he was still very much around when the rumor went around, so if he is not the one who spread it please who else could?
Because the writer mentioned just two persons in connection to the incident and we all know how eager Peter is in forwarding!
Remember Peter was the Apostle that
¤Jumped into the sea to walk!
¤Answered Jesus when he asked about his identity!
¤Entered the tomb first even though slow to get there!
¤Spoke when Jesus was transfigured!
¤Rebuked Jesus concerning his death!
¤Draw out a, sword to fight!
¤Drew back not to be seen by Jewish Christians!
Now only Peter and John were mentioned in connection with this event, and you're still arguing he couldn't have done that?
Please go and find someone to argue with Sir, i'm not your type!

That's what SPECULATION and ASSUMPTIONS do to someone WHO centred his teachings around such.

HumanHairLovers:


Thank-You for taking me on quickly





Acts 20:20 New International Version (NIV)

20 You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house.


Acts 5:42 New International Version (NIV)

42 Day after day, in the temple courts and from house to house, they never stopped teaching and proclaiming the good news that Jesus is the Messiah.

Acts 10:42 New Living Translation
And he ordered us to preach everywhere and to testify that Jesus is the one appointed by God to be the judge of all—the living and the dead

He commanded them to preach thoroughly.


Jesus himself gave the command himself

Matthew 10:11-14 New International Version (NIV)

11 Whatever town or village you enter, search there for some worthy person and stay at their house until you leave. 12 As you enter the home, give it your greeting. 13 If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.








No Jw preaches what Jw church teaches.
The Bible teaches the only way to understand the Bible and that is how Jesus, his disciples and each of us learn the Bible

Luke 24:27,32
And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.

32 They asked each other, “Were not our hearts burning within us while he talked with us on the road and opened the Scriptures to us?”

The Bible is a complete book.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 New International Version (NIV)

16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.


Have you seen anything that Jw teaches or do that is not in the Bible?





We're no prophets. And the Bible does not teach they'll be prophets of God today.










1) Does the shouting your so called church preachers do shouting in every corner up and down claiming they're preaching biblical?



2)Is it biblical to explain the Bible with your own understanding?


3)I hear you guys have prophets. What do they do? Prophecy about their church members or to themselves or what? Have they ever prophesied anything that is beyond what is in the Bible? Tell me please one of the prophecies?

HumanHairLovers: (1) Does the shouting your so called church preachers do shouting in every corner up and down claiming they're preaching biblical?


HumanHairLovers: Acts 20:20 New International Version (NIV)

20 You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house.

Achorladey: Meaning of the word "PUBLICLY" according to Merriam Webster

1........ in a way that is meant be heard or seen by many people
2........: in a way that can be used, seen, bought, etc., by anyone

Don't know if this answers your first question. It's a pity the answer to your first question is contained in you post but the COLOURATION of the scriptures by the LEADERS of the organization you are a member of did not allow you pick it out.


For example a brother of yours said this CATEGORICALLY and parroted it the way the organization DISHED it out....

Maximus69 who responded first to JuanDeDios post typed this.....


Maximus69: (1) The BEST WAY to PREACH is the HOUSE to HOUSE setting! Matthew 10:12-13, Luke 10:5, Act 20:20

Achorladey: The same scripture used by you(HumanHairLovers) repeatedly used by Maximus69 but you failed to get what is required.,

Acts 20:20 once again.........while I did not hold back from telling you any of the things that were profitable nor from teaching you PUBLICLY and from house to house.

Did you see the sequence? "PUBLICLY FIRST", then "HOUSE to HOUSE" and no where is it STATED that HOUSE to HOUSE is the BEST way to PREACH.

So when Mightysparrow said the LIGHT of the SCRIPTURES never for ONCE go DIM that it's the all about the COLOURATION of the SCRIPTURES by the leaders of the JWs. I don't think Mightysparrow has picked his WORDS wrongly.


As for the other two questions you might equally want to apply it to the organization you are a member of, you never can tell maybe GB is prophesying about you subtly with their TEACHINGS.

achorladey:





HumanHairLovers: (1) Does the shouting your so called church preachers do shouting in every corner up and down claiming they're preaching biblical?


HumanHairLovers: Acts 20:20 New International Version (NIV)

20 You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house.

Achorladey: Meaning of the word "PUBLICLY" according to Merriam Webster

1........ in a way that is meant be heard or seen by many people
2........: in a way that can be used, seen, bought, etc., by anyone

Don't know if this answers your first question. It's a pity the answer to your first question is contained in you post but the COLOURATION of the scriptures by the LEADERS of the organization you are a member of did not allow you pick it out.


For example a brother of yours said this CATEGORICALLY and parroted it the way the organization DISHED it out....

Maximus69 who responded first to JuanDeDios post typed this.....


Maximus69: (1) The BEST WAY to PREACH is the HOUSE to HOUSE setting! Matthew 10:12-13, Luke 10:5, Act 20:20

Achorladey: The same scripture used by you(HumanHairLovers) repeatedly used by Maximus69 but you failed to get what is required.,

Acts 20:20 once again.........while I did not hold back from telling you any of the things that were profitable nor from teaching you PUBLICLY and from house to house.

Did you see the sequence? "PUBLICLY FIRST", then "HOUSE to HOUSE" and no where is it STATED that HOUSE to HOUSE is the BEST way to PREACH.

So when Mightysparrow said the LIGHT of the SCRIPTURES never for ONCE go DIM that it's the all about the COLOURATION of the SCRIPTURES by the leaders of the JWs. I don't think Mightysparrow has picked his WORDS wrongly.


As for the other two questions you might equally want to apply it to the organization you are a member of, you never can tell maybe GB is prophesying about you subtly with their TEACHINGS.

For your mind now you have made too much sense abi?


Publicly - seen by many people now means shouting with speakers in neighborhoods.


House to house is not public enough, going from village to village and city to city that Jesus and his disciples did was not public or seen by enough people.

And the instruction you referred to said shouting to household you enter?


Jesus was shouting up and down?


So was his disciples abi?


Your sense is paining you but you don't know it.


Don't even refer to the crowd Jesus spoke to because I'll know your sense is not correct.

achorladey:





HumanHairLovers: (1) Does the shouting your so called church preachers do shouting in every corner up and down claiming they're preaching biblical?


HumanHairLovers: Acts 20:20 New International Version (NIV)

20 You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house.

Achorladey: Meaning of the word "PUBLICLY" according to Merriam Webster

1........ in a way that is meant be heard or seen by many people
2........: in a way that can be used, seen, bought, etc., by anyone

Don't know if this answers your first question. It's a pity the answer to your first question is contained in you post but the COLOURATION of the scriptures by the LEADERS of the organization you are a member of did not allow you pick it out.


For example a brother of yours said this CATEGORICALLY and parroted it the way the organization DISHED it out....

Maximus69 who responded first to JuanDeDios post typed this.....


Maximus69: (1) The BEST WAY to PREACH is the HOUSE to HOUSE setting! Matthew 10:12-13, Luke 10:5, Act 20:20

Achorladey: The same scripture used by you(HumanHairLovers) repeatedly used by Maximus69 but you failed to get what is required.,

Acts 20:20 once again.........while I did not hold back from telling you any of the things that were profitable nor from teaching you PUBLICLY and from house to house.

Did you see the sequence? "PUBLICLY FIRST", then "HOUSE to HOUSE" and no where is it STATED that HOUSE to HOUSE is the BEST way to PREACH.

So when Mightysparrow said the LIGHT of the SCRIPTURES never for ONCE go DIM that it's the all about the COLOURATION of the SCRIPTURES by the leaders of the JWs. I don't think Mightysparrow has picked his WORDS wrongly.


As for the other two questions you might equally want to apply it to the organization you are a member of, you never can tell maybe GB is prophesying about you subtly with their TEACHINGS

Please take your time and read it slowly if reading fast is a problem to you

Matt 10

11 Whatever town or village you enter, search there for some worthy person and stay at their house until you leave. 12 As you enter the home, give it your greeting.



That was the first preaching Jesus sent his disciples out.

They were given specific instructions on what to do.

It didn't say whatever town or village or area you enter start shouting.


That was the model that was created for Jesus disciples to preach, which still modeled by Jw.


How many of you can go from house to house? Try it in your church if your members won't stop in 2 weeks and your church would just close down.


You see people who have been preaching in people's houses for over 200 years and you don't fear them.


Knock on people's door like Jw if fear & intimidation won't make you stop in few weeks.

And you think it's ordinary and you want to taunt them.


You're on a long thing.

achorladey:





HumanHairLovers: (1) Does the shouting your so called church preachers do shouting in every corner up and down claiming they're preaching biblical?


HumanHairLovers: Acts 20:20 New International Version (NIV)

20 You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house.

Achorladey: Meaning of the word "PUBLICLY" according to Merriam Webster

1........ in a way that is meant be heard or seen by many people
2........: in a way that can be used, seen, bought, etc., by anyone

Don't know if this answers your first question. It's a pity the answer to your first question is contained in you post but the COLOURATION of the scriptures by the LEADERS of the organization you are a member of did not allow you pick it out.


For example a brother of yours said this CATEGORICALLY and parroted it the way the organization DISHED it out....

Maximus69 who responded first to JuanDeDios post typed this.....


Maximus69: (1) The BEST WAY to PREACH is the HOUSE to HOUSE setting! Matthew 10:12-13, Luke 10:5, Act 20:20

Achorladey: The same scripture used by you(HumanHairLovers) repeatedly used by Maximus69 but you failed to get what is required.,

Acts 20:20 once again.........while I did not hold back from telling you any of the things that were profitable nor from teaching you PUBLICLY and from house to house.

Did you see the sequence? "PUBLICLY FIRST", then "HOUSE to HOUSE" and no where is it STATED that HOUSE to HOUSE is the BEST way to PREACH.

So when Mightysparrow said the LIGHT of the SCRIPTURES never for ONCE go DIM that it's the all about the COLOURATION of the SCRIPTURES by the leaders of the JWs. I don't think Mightysparrow has picked his WORDS wrongly.


As for the other two questions you might equally want to apply it to the organization you are a member of, you never can tell maybe GB is prophesying about you subtly with their TEACHINGS.

The shouting your church does I know where it came from but I won't help you.


Go find for yourself cos obviously you don't know why you do it.

You're insulting others for following some dogma but you don't even know why you do what you do.


Help yourself.

Firing in the spirit won't help you. Read you Bible it was written by God's holy spirit, don't waste it and be looking for one lazy devilish inspiration.

achorladey:


As for the other two questions you might equally want to apply it to the organization you are a member of, you never can tell maybe GB is prophesying about you subtly with their TEACHINGS.

Personally I don't understand this answer you gave.

What is GB? You might never tell statement what does that mean?

Is that the answer to the two questions?


Please explain and use the Bible to support your answer so we're sure you know what you're doing.


The Bible is the basis of your being a Christian. So please use it. It'll make you more Christian and it is authoritative (if you know what that means)

Uchenaija:





Please take your time and read it slowly if reading fast is a problem to you

Matt 10

11 Whatever town or village you enter, search there for some worthy person and stay at their house until you leave. 12 As you enter the home, give it your greeting.



That was the first preaching Jesus sent his disciples out.

They were given specific instructions on what to do.

It didn't say whatever town or village or area you enter start shouting.


That was the model that was created for Jesus disciples to preach, which still modeled by Jw.


How many of you can go from house to house? Try it in your church if your members won't stop in 2 weeks and your church would just close down.


You see people who have been preaching in people's houses for over 200 years and you don't fear them.


Knock on people's door like Jw if fear & intimidation won't make you stop in few weeks.

And you think it's ordinary and you want to taunt them.


You're on a long thing.

Bros, the guy is one of those deadly rocks hiding under the seabed!
He is attending no other religious center but the kingdom halls of Jehovah's Witnesses, his parents and friends in the truth are still assuming he's worshipping Jehovah faithfully NOT knowing that he'll be the first to pelt them with huge stones the very day people start attacking JWs!
He just doesn't want the TRUTH to stand high above all other mountains as prophesied in the Bible. Isaiah 2:2-4
His mindset is that there should be no defaulters anywhere and anyone could just worship anyhow they feel.
So his problem is not to ascertain where the TRUTH is but to quench the light {Matthew 5:14-16} anywhere he could find it, in other for everyone to dwell in darkness! John 3:19

JEHOVAH will deliver us from their hands because he's still attending all our meetings regularly as if he's one of us, but his heart is FAR FAR FAR removed from amongst God's people! Matthew 15:7-9
Ask him where he worships, he will tell you it does not matter because he can't associate with all those religions without paying all their dues, yet he's against the TRUTH!

Christ is like a Presidency, for example in the Nigerian Presidency, you have ministers, directors, permanent secretaries and other very important government functionaries, all these people make up the Presidency, which is an institution. The 144k of the tribe of Israel are these government functionaries.

Christ himself, David, is the head of this Institution.

Daniel 6:1-3
1 It pleased Darius to set over the kingdom an hundred and twenty princes, which should be over the whole kingdom;
2 And over these three presidents; of whom Daniel was first: that the princes might give accounts unto them, and the king should have no damage.
3 Then this Daniel was preferred above the presidents and princes, because an excellent spirit was in him; and the king thought to set him over the whole realm.

The passage above explains what I am trying to say. Darius was king, but he had princes and satraps which he appointed to over see his empire and it's provinces.

Now, Bible says Christ is risen from the dead and has ascended into heaven from whence he will return to judge the living and the dead. The Bible says Christ is the firstfruits from the dead, but it is a turn by turn rising, so Christ (and members of his ruling team) wake up first, 1 Corinthians 15:20, 23, Thessalonians 4:16, followed by those who are Christ's at his return.

Christ's ruling team is made up of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Paul, and all the Patriarchs, Prophets and Apostles, they were all dead, but they have all now risen from the dead. They are all right now on this earth, mo ing incognito, watching the ways of modern man, they cannot fathom the madness, they are very learned and conservative men.

Mathew 22:31-32
31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

2 Thessalonians 1:7
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

Matthew 16:27
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with hisangels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

Uchenaija:




The shouting your church does I know where it came from but I won't help you.


Go find for yourself cos obviously you don't know why you do it.

You're insulting others for following some dogma but you don't even know why you do what you do.


Help yourself.

Firing in the spirit won't help you. Read you Bible it was written by God's holy spirit, don't waste it and be looking for one lazy devilish inspiration.

Oga Uchenaija, small small abeg! The more I read your response, the more I see and feel how agitated you are. I don't think you are a new member on this platform, so you should be familiar with things around here. Haba! Small small small Oga!

Regarding INSULTING others, you might want to read my post 50 times over to check where the insult is coming from and Please you too, do continually find out the reason why you do what you do.

Your last statement just dey make me laugh ooooo and please keep note of the "qualifiers" you never know who needed it most. #LAZYDEVILISHINSPIRATION#

Uchenaija:



For your mind now you have made too much sense abi?


Publicly - seen by many people now means shouting with speakers in neighborhoods.


House to house is not public enough, going from village to village and city to city that Jesus and his disciples did was not public or seen by enough people.

And the instruction you referred to said shouting to household you enter?


Jesus was shouting up and down?


So was his disciples abi?


Your sense is paining you but you don't know it.


Don't even refer to the crowd Jesus spoke to because I'll know your sense is not correct.

Uchenaija: Your sense is paining you but you don't know it.

Achorladey: Later comeback and tell me I am busy insulting others. Oga this your agitation no be here ooooooooo.

Just like I stated here above, will repeat it again, always keep note of your QUALIFIERS, they will surely come handy, and you never know when you might need them and comeback to haunt you.


Uchenaija: House to house is not public enough, going from village to village and city to city that Jesus and his disciples did was not public or seen by enough people.

Achorladey: Now you are trying to expansiate on the meaning of preaching PUBLICLY. Why all the hullabaloo before this time. Don't feel agitated Oga Uchenaija.

I thought HOUSE to HOUSE is the BEST. Hahahahahahaha!

Uchenaija:



Personally I don't understand this answer you gave.

What is GB? You might never tell statement what does that mean?

Is that the answer to the two questions?


Please explain and use the Bible to support your answer so we're sure you know what you're doing.


The Bible is the basis of your being a Christian. So please use it. It'll make you more Christian and it is authoritative (if you know what that means)

Uchenaija: Personally I don't understand this answer you gave.

Achorladey: It is so sad and I believe you will want to get a response from concerning the answer I gave to the post you responded to. Oga Uchenaija just scroll up and read again. When reading initially you are too agitated. Please go back and read carefully this time.

Uchenaija: What is GB?

Achorladey: Oga Uchenaija, when did you join this platform? You still have a lot to go through here ooooooo. Welcome onboard!

Uchenaija: You might never tell statement what does that mean?

Achorladey: By the time you know the meaning of GB, you connect the dots to form a meaningful line

Uchenaija: Is that the answer to the two questions?

Achorladey: How about copying this part of your post posted previously. Here it is below.....

According to "Uchenaija"..........You're insulting others for following some dogma but you don't even know why you do what you do.

Kindly link this to the answer I gave you earlier, you will surely connect the dots to form the required LINES

Uchenaija: Please explain and use the Bible to support your answer so we're sure you know what you're doing.

Achorladey: With all of this your AGITATION and the I will know "YOUR SENSE IS NOT CORRECT" PALAVER you typed earlier eh eh, let me copy one of your lines AGAIN posted earlier........."YOU ARE ON A LONG THING"


Uchenaija: The Bible is the basis of your being a Christian.

Achorladey: God's word is indeed is contained in the Bible that I agree with no Fuss!

Uchenaija: So please use it.

Achorladey: This I have just done to one of the post of your friend, but your response towards that tells me that you giving me the advice concerning USAGE of the BIBLE don't seem to follow THROUGH on the advise GIVEN.

Uchenaija: It'll make you more Christian and it is authoritative (if you know what that means)

Achorladey: I only hope you equally apply the advice given and cherish what 1 Timothy 3:16,17 in line with Titus 2: 11-15/ John 16: 12-16

achorladey:


Oga Uchenaija, small small abeg! The more I read your response, the more I see and feel how agitated you are. I don't think you are a new member on this platform, so you should be familiar with things around here. Haba! Small small small Oga!

Regarding INSULTING others, you might want to read my post 50 times over to check where the insult is coming from and Please you too, do continually find out the reason why you do what you do.

Your last statement just dey make me laugh ooooo and please keep note of the "qualifiers" you never know who needed it most. #LAZYDEVILISHINSPIRATION#

You just wasted your talk. Obviously nothing to say. Hang on that straw, I no you need it.


If it is for insult leave that part, I'll insult you so far as it is this forum.

achorladey:



Uchenaija: Your sense is paining you but you don't know it.

Achorladey: Later comeback and tell me I am busy insulting others. Oga this your agitation no be here ooooooooo.

Just like I stated here above, will repeat it again, always keep note of your QUALIFIERS, they will surely come handy, and you never know when you might need them and comeback to haunt you.


Uchenaija: House to house is not public enough, going from village to village and city to city that Jesus and his disciples did was not public or seen by enough people.

Achorladey: Now you are trying to expansiate on the meaning of preaching PUBLICLY. Why all the hullabaloo before this time. Don't feel agitated Oga Uchenaija.

I thought HOUSE to HOUSE is the BEST. Hahahahahahaha!

Please your problem is English. If you're igbo or Yoruba, or some other language is your better dialect read the Bible in that language.

I cannot come and be rattling words with some simple dimwit.

achorladey:


Uchenaija: Personally I don't understand this answer you gave.

Achorladey: It is so sad and I believe you will want to get a response from concerning the answer I gave to the post you responded to. Oga Uchenaija just scroll up and read again. When reading initially you are too agitated. Please go back and read carefully this time.

Uchenaija: What is GB?

Achorladey: Oga Uchenaija, when did you join this platform? You still have a lot to go through here ooooooo. Welcome onboard!

Uchenaija: You might never tell statement what does that mean?

Achorladey: By the time you know the meaning of GB, you connect the dots to form a meaningful line

Uchenaija: Is that the answer to the two questions?

Achorladey: How about copying this part of your post posted previously. Here it is below.....

According to "Uchenaija"..........You're insulting others for following some dogma but you don't even know why you do what you do.

Kindly link this to the answer I gave you earlier, you will surely connect the dots to form the required LINES

Uchenaija: Please explain and use the Bible to support your answer so we're sure you know what you're doing.

Achorladey: With all of this your AGITATION and the I will know "YOUR SENSE IS NOT CORRECT" PALAVER you typed earlier eh eh, let me copy one of your lines AGAIN posted earlier........."YOU ARE ON A LONG THING"


Uchenaija: The Bible is the basis of your being a Christian.

Achorladey: God's word is indeed is contained in the Bible that I agree with no Fuss!

Uchenaija: So please use it.

Achorladey: This I have just done to one of the post of your friend, but your response towards that tells me that you giving me the advice concerning USAGE of the BIBLE don't seem to follow THROUGH on the advise GIVEN.

Uchenaija: It'll make you more Christian and it is authoritative (if you know what that means)

Achorladey: I only hope you equally apply the advice given and cherish what 1 Timothy 3:16,17 in line with Titus 2: 11-15/ John 16: 12-16

How does all this help this discussion?

I didn't know I was speaking to an idiotic imbecilic fool who thinks himself wise but is a slow witted cretin who can read but doesn't want to read.

I swear at first you didn't look like someone who'd be stupid, I promise not to make the same mistake again of parading words with a witless half-baked cuckoo!

Maximus69:

Bros, the guy is one of those deadly rocks hiding under the seabed!
He is attending no other religious center but the kingdom halls of Jehovah's Witnesses, his parents and friends in the truth are still assuming he's worshipping Jehovah faithfully NOT knowing that he'll be the first to pelt them with huge stones the very day people start attacking JWs!
He just doesn't want the TRUTH to stand high above all other mountains as prophesied in the Bible. Isaiah 2:2-4
His mindset is that there should be no defaulters anywhere and anyone could just worship anyhow they feel.
So his problem is not to ascertain where the TRUTH is but to quench the light {Matthew 5:14-16} anywhere he could find it, in other for everyone to dwell in darkness! John 3:19

JEHOVAH will deliver us from their hands because he's still attending all our meetings regularly as if he's one of us, but his heart is FAR FAR FAR removed from amongst God's people! Matthew 15:7-9
Ask him where he worships, he will tell you it does not matter because he can't associate with all those religions without paying all their dues, yet he's against the TRUTH!

Seriously!



Sorry brother, I didn't know I was wasting water on a basket.


I just confirmed it. Thank-You brother!

Uchenaija:


You just wasted your talk. Obviously nothing to say. Hang on that straw, I no you need it.


If it is for insult leave that part, I'll insult so far as it is this forum.

Uchenaija: You just wasted your talk. Obviously nothing to say.

Achorladey: If it is a wasted talk, it shouldn't have caused you so much agitation.

Simmer down a bit and take time to review it from the scratch, you never know what you will glean from it.

Uchenaija: I'll INSULT so far as it is this forum.

Achorladey: You are willing to go haywire on RULE 2 of this platform. Eh eh on top of this small matter. E get as e be for you ooooo.

I never knew there is a LEEWAY Christ gave for us to INSULT each other and interestingly, it is on a platform where rule 2 states categorically not to do so. I salute you sir!

Take a look at this scriptures though, you might have a rethink on that......

1 Peter 2:21,23For to this you were called, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving an example for you to follow in his steps. 23........when he was being INSULTED, he did not INSULT in return. when he was suffering, he did not THREATEN..........