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Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by MightySparrow: 10:02pm On Jul 04, 2019
Maximus69:
cheesy
Sorry Sir, i'm not answerable to you! cheesy
So keep quiet.
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Nobody: 10:05pm On Jul 04, 2019
MightySparrow:
So keep quiet.
I'm not talking Sir, i'm just T Y P I N G! cheesy
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Janosky: 10:04am On Jul 05, 2019
https://www.nairaland.com/3532421/pastor-kumuyi-christmas-idolatrous

Pastor Kumuyi : “christmas Is Idolatrous by Nobody: 1:12am On Dec 22 , 2016 The recent statement by the General Superintendent of the Deeper Christian Life Ministry, Pastor W.F. Kumuyi, that Christmas is idolatrous has attracted widespread reactions. Pastor Kumuyi was quoted in the Punch newspaper of December 13, 2013, as saying: “We don’t celebrate Christmas. It actually came from idolatrous background. That is why you don’t hear us sing what they call Christmas carol. Never! …
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Janosky: 10:30am On Jul 05, 2019
MightySparrow:
People going out Deeper Life and other denominations daily without any threat outright or subtle. An ex - member of Deeper Life is still a brother in Christ if he is still in Christ. Shalom
Janosky:
https://www.nairaland.com/3532421/pastor-kumuyi-christmas-idolatrous


Pastor Kumuyi : “christmas Is Idolatrous by
Nobody: 1:12am On Dec 22 , 2016
The recent statement by the General
Superintendent of the Deeper Christian Life
Ministry, Pastor W.F. Kumuyi, that
Christmas is idolatrous has attracted
widespread reactions. Pastor Kumuyi was
quoted in the Punch newspaper of December
13, 2013, as saying:
“We don’t celebrate Christmas. It actually
came from idolatrous background. That is
why you don’t hear us sing what they call
Christmas carol. Never! …
MightySparrow deceives himself!
Worshipper of Kumuyi, your god of men leader indirectly says that "ex - member of Deeper Life " members are NOT your brothers in Christ & all other Churches in your so called "body of christ " are just idol worshippers by virtue of their Christmas celebration.
Your cult of personality god is telling you those who celebrate Christmas are idol worshippers.
Receive sense !
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Nobody: 11:04am On Jul 05, 2019
Janosky:
MightySparrow deceives himself!
Worshipper of Kumuyi, your god of men leader indirectly says that "ex - member of Deeper Life " members are NOT your brothers in Christ & all other Churches in your so called "body of christ " are just idol worshippers by virtue of their Christmas celebration.
Your cult of personality god is telling you those who celebrate Christmas are idol worshippers.
Receive sense !
They love deceit a lot, but after experiencing countless disappointments from their chief priests they'll gather to protest against their so called shrines like COZA! wink
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Janosky: 11:08am On Jul 05, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
The preceding verse that I quoted gives the proper context:

"Whosoever transgresses, and abides not in the doctrine of Christ, has not God. He that abides in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son. If there come any to you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed" (2 John 1:9-10).

If you are abiding in doctrine of Christ, you will have God the Father and you will have God the Son and you will also have access to the Father through the Son, not through your GB. We have access to God through our Lord Jesus Christ by His marvellous, infinite grace if we abide in the doctrine of Christ, not in the doctrine of any denomination or society.

vs 10 tells us what our attitudes should be towards heretics who denies the deity of Christ but pretend to be a follower of Christ, that we should not entertain false teachers into our homes. And apostle John even went further. He said:

"For he that bids him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds" (2 John 1:11).

He said if we support him in anyway or form we are partners with him in his deeds. If we become partners in that which denies the deity of our Lord Jesus Christ and all that He is and stands for and all that He did for us, if we are supporting that kind of thing, God will hold us responsible for it.
Idiotic post of a lying Pharisee.
You lie that Jesus Christ is God and you have access to God through God.

Oturugbeke !!!!!!
No wonder, God commanded himself to sit at the right hand of himself !!!!!

Acts9:20, what did Paul preach in the synagogue?
Eph1:3, what did Paul write to believers?
Acts3:13,Matt16:13-17,Rev1:6. 3:5,21,what did Apostles Peter/Paul /John and Jesus himself confirm about the deity of Jesus ?

You're teaching what Jesus Christ NEVER taught and you have no shame lying about it. 2John1:10 is already against you..
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by OLAADEGBU(op): 1:44pm On Jul 05, 2019
Janosky:
MightySparrow deceives himself!
Worshipper of Kumuyi, your god of men leader indirectly says that "ex - member of Deeper Life " members are NOT your brothers in Christ & all other Churches in your so called "body of christ " are just idol worshippers by virtue of their Christmas celebration.
Your cult of personality god is telling you those who celebrate Christmas are idol worshippers.
Receive sense !
Where and when did Pastor Kumuyi make such a statement? undecided
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Nobody: 2:35pm On Jul 05, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
Where and when did Pastor Kumuyi make such a statement? undecided
I personally have not heard that and i'm sure Janosky will present excepts of that but actions speaks louder than words! cheesy

It's an established fact that all so called Pastors have passed through one theological institution or the other, so

Where exactly did Kumuyi got his own doctrines?

Or

Who ordained him as Pastor so that his own teachings totally contradicts that of existing Churches before his own?

If Kumuyi will not encourage you to celebrate Christmas neither join the so called Christian Association of Nigeria {CAN} then his actions have spoken volumes!

I told you he was disfellowshiped from amongst Jehovah's Witnesses, you keep doubting but the truth can't be hidden forever! wink
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by OLAADEGBU(op): 7:38pm On Jul 05, 2019
Maximus69:
I personally have not heard that and i'm sure Janosky will present excepts of that but actions speaks louder than words! cheesy

It's an established fact that all so called Pastors have passed through one theological institution or the other, so

Where exactly did Kumuyi got his own doctrines?

Or

Who ordained him as Pastor so that his own teachings totally contradicts that of existing Churches before his own?

If Kumuyi will not encourage you to celebrate Christmas neither join the so called Christian Association of Nigeria {CAN} then his actions have spoken volumes!

I told you he was disfellowshiped from amongst Jehovah's Witnesses, you keep doubting but the truth can't be hidden forever! wink
Lies from the pit of hell. huh

Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by OLAADEGBU(op): 7:43pm On Jul 05, 2019
Janosky:
Idiotic post of a lying Pharisee.
You lie that Jesus Christ is God and you have access to God through God.

Oturugbeke !!!!!!
No wonder, God commanded himself to sit at the right hand of himself !!!!!

Acts9:20, what did Paul preach in the synagogue?
Eph1:3, what did Paul write to believers?
Acts3:13,Matt16:13-17,Rev1:6. 3:5,21,what did Apostles Peter/Paul /John and Jesus himself confirm about the deity of Jesus ?

You're teaching what Jesus Christ NEVER taught and you have no shame lying about it. 2John1:10 is already against you..
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves" (Matthew 7:15).

Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Janosky: 9:49pm On Jul 05, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves" (Matthew 7:15).
Janosky:
Idiotic post of a lying Pharisee.
You lie that Jesus Christ is God and you have access to God through God.

Oturugbeke !!!!!!
No wonder, God commanded himself to sit at the right hand of himself !!!!!

Acts9:20, what did Paul preach in the synagogue?
Eph1:3, what did Paul write to believers?
Acts3:13,Matt16:13-17,Rev1:6. 3:5,21,what did Apostles Peter/Paul /John and Jesus himself confirm about the deity of Jesus ?

You're teaching what Jesus Christ NEVER taught and you have no shame lying about it. 2John1:10 is already against you..
OLAADEGBU lying Pharisee dey misquote
Matthew 7:15 which is speaking against his falsehood.

** Action speaks louder than words...
OLAADEGBU lying Pharisee is showing everyone his rejection of Acts9:20, Eph1:3, Matt16:13-17 & Rev1:6. 3:5,21.
Worshipper of cult of personality gods of men, (kumuyi na your cult of personality god !), no wonder the words of Jesus irritates you.
Shame on you...
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by OLAADEGBU(op): 4:59pm On Jul 06, 2019
Janosky:
OLAADEGBU lying Pharisee dey misquote
Matthew 7:15 which is speaking against his falsehood.

** Action speaks louder than words...
OLAADEGBU lying Pharisee is showing everyone his rejection of Acts9:20, Eph1:3, Matt16:13-17 & Rev1:6. 3:5,21.
Worshipper of cult of personality gods of men, (kumuyi na your cult of personality god !), no wonder the words of Jesus irritates you.
Shame on you...
"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them" (Romans 16:17).

The body of Christ would do well to heed this warning. cool
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Nobody: 9:17pm On Jul 06, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves" (Matthew 7:15).
Please complete Jesus' statement in that verse nah!

@verse 20 of that same chapter Jesus concluded 'BY THEIR FRUIT you will IDENTIFY them'

Can you enlighten the whole world on the fruitage of Kumuyi's teachings?
Because the whole world can SEE Jehovah's Witnesses achievements everywhere we're! Matthew 5:14-16 wink

So who is the wolf in sheep's clothing now? wink

Below is the wedding procession of Kumuyi's son, he thought his gullible followers not to wear jewelries and makeup but see his daughter in-law on the wedding day!
Yet your Daddy Superintendent pronounced it a 'made in heaven' matrimony! cheesy

Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Janosky: 10:50pm On Jul 06, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
Where and when did Pastor Kumuyi make such a statement? undecided
I had thought you're well educated but you don't seem to understand English quite well.
Pls put on your thinking cap and grasp the point I made via the post below:
Janosky :

Worshipper of Kumuyi, your god of
men leader INDIRECTLY SAYS that "ex -
member of Deeper Life " members are
NOT your brothers in Christ & all other
Churches in your so called "body of
christ " are just idol worshippers by
virtue of their Christmas celebration.
Your cult of personality god is telling
you those who celebrate Christmas are
idol worshippers.
. Janosky: Quote Post
https://www.nairaland.com/3532421/
pastor-kumuyi-christmas-idolatrous
Pastor Kumuyi : “christmas Is Idolatrous"

You already agreed with your cult of personality god of men that Christmas celebrants are idol worshippers, yet you pretend as if you don't know the point I'm driving at ....
see the proof here..

Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Janosky: 11:05pm On Jul 06, 2019
Maximus69:
Please complete Jesus' statement in that verse nah!

@verse 20 of that same chapter Jesus concluded 'BY THEIR FRUIT you will IDENTIFY them'

Can you enlighten the whole world on the fruitage of Kumuyi's teachings?
Because the whole world can SEE Jehovah's Witnesses achievements everywhere we're! Matthew 5:14-16 wink

So who is the wolf in sheep's clothing now? wink

Below is the wedding procession of Kumuyi's son, he thought his gullible followers not to wear jewelries and makeup but see his daughter in-law on the wedding day!
Yet your Daddy Superintendent pronounced it a 'made in heaven' matrimony! cheesy
No mind the cult of personality god of men worshipper ....
OLAADEGBU and him fellow gullible dlbc sheeples dey swallow their god of men 'do-as- I -say ,-don't -do -as -I -do' creed
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Janosky: 11:31pm On Jul 06, 2019
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Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Janosky: 11:33pm On Jul 06, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them" (Romans 16:17).

The body of Christ would do well to heed this warning. cool
Shame no dey catch you, OLAADEGBU?
Romans16:17, what's "the doctrine which ye have learned" that Paul referred to?

Let the Bible speak:
****Romans15:5,6
"May the God who gives endurance and encouragement give you a spirit of unity among yourselves as you follow Christ Jesus, so that with one heart and mouth you may glorify the God and Father of our lord Jesus Christ."


**Every one can NOW see that the Scriptures says the followers of Jesus Christ (real Christians) unite to "glorify the God and Father of our lord Jesus Christ".
This is further solid CONFIRMATION of true Christian belief that Jesus Christ is the son of God, as he confirmed he is. (Matt16:13-17.
Rev 3:5,21).
Whereas, OLAADEGBU lying Pharisee ,worshipper of cult of personality god of men has been spreading the "Jesus is God" junk and scam doctrine.
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Nobody: 8:00am On Jul 07, 2019
Janosky:
No mind the cult of personality god of men worshipper ....
OLAADEGBU and him fellow gullible dlbc sheeples dey swallow their god of men 'do-as- I -say ,-don't -do -as -I -do' creed
Kumuyi just gathered them to make his own life better that's all.
But because he kept wearing the same colour of suit back then, the gullible followers thought he is not spending their money. Yet he made all of them puppets so that only Kumuyi can preach God's word, all the puppets have to do is listen to him! cheesy

Now his son got married and the wife wears makeup, jewelries, transparent gown, relaxed hair and so on. But those fools remains blindfolded under his spell, instead of asking Daddy Superintendent why his daughter in-law could overstep the rules of their church and yet Baba Kumuyi pronounced it 'Made in heaven' wedding!

Awon Oponu Olodo dede! cheesy
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by OLAADEGBU(op): 5:49pm On Jul 09, 2019
Maximus69:
Kumuyi just gathered them to make his own life better that's all.
But because he kept wearing the same colour of suit back then, the gullible followers thought he is not spending their money. Yet he made all of them puppets so that only Kumuyi can preach God's word, all the puppets have to do is listen to him! cheesy

Now his son got married and the wife wears makeup, jewelries, transparent gown, relaxed hair and so on. But those fools remains blindfolded under his spell, instead of asking Daddy Superintendent why his daughter in-law could overstep the rules of their church and yet Baba Kumuyi pronounced it 'Made in heaven' wedding!

Awon Oponu Olodo dede! cheesy
Are you in that number, saved by grace? undecided
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Nobody: 6:14pm On Jul 09, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
Are you in that number, saved by grace? undecided
Ode! See stupid question! cheesy

What has this your question got to do with the topic of discuss or my post? cheesy

Confused Dullard!

Your Daddy Superintendent taught all of you not to wear jewelries, makeup, tight-fitting dresses, relaxed hairdos but his daughter in-law wore all of the above, yet the hypocrite pronounced the wedding 'made in heaven'

Abeg go and remove the huge BEAM in your eye before thinking of helping others to remove the mote in theirs.
Matthew 7:3

Ask your daddy SP if his son and daughter in-law are in your so called number first before coming out to question those who are watching your stupidity from afar! wink
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by OLAADEGBU(op): 6:23pm On Jul 09, 2019
Maximus69:
Ode! See stupid question! cheesy

What has this your question got to do with the topic of discuss or my post? cheesy

Confused Dullard!

Your Daddy Superintendent taught all of you not to wear jewelries, makeup, tight-fitting dresses, relaxed hairdos but his daughter in-law wore all of the above, yet the hypocrite pronounced the wedding 'made in heaven'

Abeg go and remove the huge BEAM in your eye before thinking of helping others to remove the mote in theirs.
Matthew 7:3

Ask your daddy SP if his son and daughter in-law are in your so called number first before coming out to question those who are watching your stupidity from afar! wink
It is good to see how you insult people, at least you are showing your true colours. All it took was to scratch the surface to reveal what's beneath the surface. A fruit cannot fall far away from it's tree. I only wish you guys can be this insulting when you turn up at our doors to sell your magazines instead of pretending to be nice and gentle. God wants spiritual fruits not spiritual nuts. cheesy
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Nobody: 6:48pm On Jul 09, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
It is good to see how you insult people, at least you are showing your true colours. All it took was to scratch the surface to reveal what's beneath the surface. A fruit cannot fall far away from it's tree. I only wish you guys can be this insulting when you turn up at our doors to sell your magazines instead of pretending to be nice and gentle. God wants spiritual fruits not spiritual nuts. cheesy
If you're not a dummy, you'll realise by now that you're totally empty with Kumuyi because you have nothing to say other than argue argue and argue in support of that stupid old man who has kept all your parents under his powerful spell for years!

I asked you a simple question and all you could say is 'he called me confused dullard' abeg wetin you think sey you be before? Galatians 3:1 cheesy
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Nobody: 6:58pm On Jul 09, 2019
Hello Kumuyi worshipper,

Is this the wedding ceremony of your Daddy SP's son?

Because if it is, then you're all fools if you still continue to follow Kumuyi ! wink

Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by OLAADEGBU(op): 9:04pm On Jul 11, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


JWs heretical beliefs continued


16. Only their church members will be saved, The Watchtower, Feb. 15, 1979, p. 30.
17. Good works are necessary for salvation, Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 1,
pp. 150, 152.
18. The soul ceases to exist after death, Let God be True, pp. 59, 60, 67.
19. There is no hell of fire where the wicked are punished, Let God be True, pp. 79, 80.
20. Only 144,000 Jehovah's Witness go to heaven, Reasoning from the Scriptures,
1985, pp. 166-167, 361; Let God be True, p. 121.

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses-beliefs
21. Only the 144,000 Jehovah's Witness are born again. (Reasoning from the
Scriptures, 1985, p. 76.; Watchtower 11/15/54, p. 681).
22. Only the 144,000 may take communion.
23. Blood transfusions are a sin, (Reasoning from the Scriptures, 1985, pp. 72-73).
24. The Cross is a pagan symbol and should not be used, (Reasoning from the
Scriptures, 1985, pp. 90-92).
25. Salvation is by faith and what you do, (Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 1, pp.
150, 152).
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by OLAADEGBU(op): 9:17pm On Jul 11, 2019
Maximus69:
Hello Kumuyi worshipper,

Is this the wedding ceremony of your Daddy SP's son?

Because if it is, then you're all fools if you still continue to follow Kumuyi ! wink

Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by OLAADEGBU(op): 9:28pm On Jul 11, 2019
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Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Nobody: 9:35pm On Jul 11, 2019
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=80175082][/quote]Do you believe your own post at all? cheesy

Your billboard says 'life is short, eternity is Not' ~God
Yet you're agitating against those who are ready to die for their faith!
Abeg which one you dey gangan self?
Ode, Oponu ara ile Kumuyi! cheesy
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by OLAADEGBU(op): 9:42pm On Jul 11, 2019
Maximus69:
Hello Kumuyi worshipper,

Is this the wedding ceremony of your Daddy SP's son?

Because if it is, then you're all fools if you still continue to follow Kumuyi ! wink
Maximus69:
Do you believe your own post at all? cheesy

Your billboard says 'life is short, eternity is Not' ~God
Yet you're agitating against those who are ready to die for their faith!
Abeg which one you dey gangan self?
Ode, Oponu ara ile Kumuyi! cheesy

Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Nobody: 9:51pm On Jul 11, 2019
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=80175446][/quote]Of course he did,
But his blood was NOT TRANSFUSED and he did this almost 2,000 years ago! wink
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by OLAADEGBU(op): 1:02pm On Oct 19, 2019
Maximus69:
Of course he did,
But his blood was NOT TRANSFUSED and he did this almost 2,000 years ago! wink
That's why you must be born again. smiley
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by Nobody: 4:07pm On Oct 19, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
That's why you must be born again. smiley
Of point! wink wink wink wink
Re: Is The Jehovah's Witness Organisation Christian? by OLAADEGBU(op): 4:38pm On Oct 19, 2019
Maximus69:
Of point! wink wink wink wink
"If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth" (Colossians 3:1-2).

Right on point. Your answer to this question will determine whether your organisation is Christian or not.

i) Where is Christ seated?
ii) Where should your affection be, heaven or earth?
iii) Do you agree that your destination is where your affection should be?
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