OLAADEGBU:


Conclusion

It is a noble thing to be willing to die rather than do evil; however, it is a tragic thing when a false teaching and misrepresentation of Scripture causes lives to be needlessly lost. This is, unfortunately, the case with the Jehovah's Witness doctrine on blood transfusions. Scripture, not to mention medical science and common sense, teaches us that eating blood and receiving a blood transfusion is not practically or morally equivalent; they are, in fact, the opposite. It is a heavy thing to consider how those who have promoted this false teaching will have to give an account before a holy God of the lives it has needlessly cost if they do not repent.

budaatum:


We must all the same now consider some of our own beliefs to ensure we don't make the same mistake of adopting false doctrines and teachings.

budaatum:


We must all the same now consider some of our own BELIEFS to ensure we don't make the same mistake of adopting false doctrines and teachings.

budaatum:

Don't patronize me Max. You know very well that buda is definitely not a "BELIEVER".

Maximus69:


Please buda, are you now a believer?

Well to God be the glory!

budaatum:

If buda were a believer buda would believe your version or that which some others say buda must believe instead of using buda's very own brain and mind and senses and being that the Lord God Almighty has given buda and which shall be [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A14-30&version=ESV]taken away[/url] from buda if buda uses them not!

Don't patronize me Max. You know very well that buda is definitely not a "believer".

budaatum:

Have you got a difficulty reading or is understanding the problem here max? I hope it's one or the other because the alternative is you are being devious!

Maximus69:

I no sabi grammar Ma,
Are you now a BELIEVER,as in one having BELIEFS?

OLAADEGBU:


At least you can now see how dangerous these "false doctrines and teachings" that I refute on this thread can be and why they should be called out.

budaatum:


Whenever I see the twig in another person's eyes, I find the forest is growing in my own. This helps me focus on removing that which blinds me instead of blindly trying to cure those who might be less blind than I am.

We all have false doctrines and teachings Degbu. Unless we wish to claim we alone are righteous, which is a forest itself.

OLAADEGBU:


By all means please point out any false doctrine(s) you think I may have so that we can trash them out on a separate thread.

budaatum:


No Deg. Pointing them out would be an assumption of my own righteousness and I assure you righteous I am not. How about you and I reason together instead of each trying to prove their own speculation alone can be the right one? Who knows. We may end up removing trees from our forest if not the entire forest itself.

OLAADEGBU:


It is up to you to remove the trees in your own forest before you can see the speck in mine. Meanwhile, let us entertain ourselves with the issue at hand on this thread.

OLAADEGBU:


The Crisis:

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OLAADEGBU:


The Crisis:

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OLAADEGBU:


The Crisis:

https://www.chick.com/default

OLAADEGBU:


The Crisis:

https://www.chick.com/default

johnw47:


Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, [u]shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone[/b]: which is the second death.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

@bold, no that's not the bible

OLAADEGBU:


The verses your Watchtower Society uses when forbidding you to do blood transfusion are Genesis 9:4; Leviticus 7:26-27; Acts 15:19-29 and the like. What God is addressing in those verses has nothing to do with blood transfusion it was about the eating of animal's blood and blood transfusion is not the same thing as eating animal blood. So you cannot use those verses as proof that God is against blood transfusion, they do not apply at all. This is what Jesus said:

"There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man" (Mark 7:15).

And if you are saying that 'the Watchtower have never done that' here is the proof:

Blood transfusion are a sin, Reasoning from Scriptures, 1985, page 72-73

It is also true that the Watchtower deceive you to earn your salvation by selling their magazines door to door trying to make the quotas. Do you really believe that their magazines them is from God and are infallible? Are they inspired? Here is proof that you think it is from God and not to be questioned:

Salvation is by faith and works you do, Studies in the Scriptures, vol. 1 page 150, 152 (You asked for proof, you got proof).

And because of the fear of being slaughtered in the Battle of Armageddon you have to be a good 'missionary' working yours socks off as a 'faithful witness.'

Some of you may even be called upon to be undercover agents (One of your new recruits here on NL will become handy here because of his previous experience of working as Mafia). Who will be called upon to follow members who appear to be suspect and thereby reports them to the elders who will in turn send the information to the Headquarters in New York to be placed in their files.

You guys must be a miserable lot and your hearts really empty. You need to begin to doubt if your elders really received this so called "new light" from the 'angels' sitting comfortably at the headquarters in NY.

You need to begin to seriously study the Bible independently. The Watchtower has led you down the alley to believe another gospel and the God you are serving is not the God of the Bible. You can't earn your salvation by works (See Galatians 2:16; Ephesians 2:8,9) like selling watchtower materials.

The Bible says that we will all stand before God and be judged by the Word (John 12:48). We should all make sure that the Word of God is our final authority and not the Watchtower or any other sort of material. Who are you going to believe? God or the Watchtower Society? Jesus is Jehovah, repent of your sin and accept Him as your Saviour to be set free.

PublicHealthNig:
See List Of National Blood Transfusion Service (NBTS) Centers In Nigeria

OLAADEGBU:


Are Blood Transfusions Sinful?

The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, or those who call themselves "Jehovah's Witnesses," have long insisted that blood transfusions are contrary to the direct commands of Scripture regarding blood. They have held to a firm commitment that their people should refuse blood transfusions, even if it costs them their lives (and for very many it has done just that). While the organization has wrestled with exactly which procedures of modern medicine do and do not fall into this violation, the basic premise that blood transfusions are contrary to Scripture has persisted since the early 20th century on into the 21st. The alleged biblical case for this has also stayed largely the same. The July 1, 1951, Watchtower magazine presented the case as follows:

https://carm.org/are-blood-transfusions-sinful

OLAADEGBU:


Let's revisit this death-cult called JW's stand on blood transfusion.

OLAADEGBU:


That is why I am alerting unsuspecting folks as to the danger of joining this deadly cult, many have died as a result of this evil theology.

OLAADEGBU:


If Jesus shed His precious blood to give me life, what stops me from giving life (blood) to those who need it to survive?

Janosky:

LIAR .
You're twisting the biblical narrative.

Name the persons who received blood transfusions from Jesus Christ..

OLAADEGBU:


Fake News.

OLAADEGBU:
Fake News.

Janosky:

Who Olaadegbu wan deceive?

FACTS DON'T LIE...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1482021.stm




Thursday, 9 August, 2001, 22:50 GMT 23:50
UK
"Aids scandals around the world
Many families blamed politicians for the
contamination
China is the latest country to admit that
Aids is cutting a swathe through its
population, but Aids-related scandals have
dogged many other countries since the
1980s and 1990s.
One of the most high-profile cases was that
of France's tainted blood scandal, which saw
a former health minister convicted for failing
adequately to screen blood which led to the
deaths from Aids of five people, and the
contamination of two others during a key
period in 1985.
Aids scandals around
the world
France: About 4,000
given infected blood in
the mid-1980s
Canada: About 2,000
people infected before
blood tests began in
1985
Italy: Some 1,300
people have died from
infected blood infusions
since 1985
Japan: Over 1,400
haemophiliacs were
exposed to HIV through
tainted blood; at least
500 thought to have
died
Two French ministers were acquitted of
manslaughter.
About 4,000 people, many of them
haemophiliacs, were given blood infected
with the virus.
Many of those contaminated have since
died. In most cases they received
transfusions before the link between HIV,
Aids and blood was fully understood.
All three politicians were alleged to have
delayed the introduction of a US blood-
screening test in France until a rival French
product was ready to go on the market.
No blood tests
In April of this year, Canada's Supreme
Court found the Canadian Red Cross guilty
of negligence for failing to screen blood
donors effectively for HIV infection.
Three suits were brought against the Red
Cross by people who received tainted blood.
Two of them subsequently died of Aids and
the third is HIV positive.
Blood was not always
properly screened
About 2,000 people were infected with HIV
and up to 60,000 with Hepatitis C before
blood tests began in late 1985.
Blood tests for Aids had not been developed
at the time, so screening of donors was the
most effective way of preventing infection.
In Italy, a Rome court ordered the Health
Ministry in June of this year to pay damages
to 351 people who contracted the HIV virus
and hepatitis through blood transfusions.
The court said the ministry was too slow to
introduce measures to prevent the virus
being spread by donated blood, and did not
establish proper checks on plasma.
About 100 of the victims - all haemophiliacs
- have already died, but the court ruled that
their families were entitled to the
compensation.
Angelo Magrini, the head of a
haemophiliacs' association, said at the time
1,300 people, including almost 150 children,
had died in Italy from infected blood
infusions since 1985.
Cover-up
In March this year, a court in Tokyo cleared
a former top Aids expert of professional
negligence over a scandal that exposed
thousands to the HIV virus through tainted
blood products.
The high-profile scandal, which grabbed
headlines in the mid-1990s, shocked Japan
with allegations of a government cover-up
and unethical links between big business
and bureaucrats.
Japan's Health Ministry did not ban
unheated blood products until December
1985, despite knowing they risked being
tainted with HIV.
Over 1,400 Japanese haemophiliacs were
exposed to HIV as a result, and more than
500 are believed to have died.
In February 2000, three former drug
company executives accused of selling
blood products tainted with HIV were given
prison terms.
Negligence charges
In Iran in the late 1990s, the former head of
Iran's blood transfusion centre also went on
trial over allegations that patients contracted
the HIV virus after receiving contaminated
blood.
Dr Farhadi and two other doctors faced
several charges including negligence in
importing HIV-tainted supplies from France.
The case followed complaints lodged by
families of some 170 people, many of them
children, suffering from haemophilia and the
blood disease thalassemia.
The prosecution at the time said hundreds
of people had contracted diseases including
HIV and hepatitis through contaminated
transfusions.
Contagion
And in Portugal, a court indicted a former
health minister over an Aids scandal dating
back to her time in office during the 1980s.
The court said the minister, Leonor Beleza,
should be tried for propagating a contagious
disease.
The decision refers back to a case in which
more than 100 Portuguese haemophiliacs
were infected with the Aids virus after
receiving transfusions of contaminated
plasma that had been imported and
distributed by the public health service.
Regional picture
Africa devastated
European hotspots
Background
What is Aids?
Race to find a cure
Aids drugs factfile
Case studies
Argentina's young victims
SA plant 'fights' Aids
Bad blood in China
Thai Aids fears
Russia's crisis
CLICKABLE GUIDE
Aids in Africa
World at a glance
TALKING POINT
Is enough being done to
combat Aids?
See also:
19 Jun 01 | Europe
Italian Aids victims to get damages
20 Apr 01 | Americas
Canadian Red Cross negligent in HIV
screening
28 Mar 01 | Asia-Pacific
Doctor cleared in HIV scandal
30 Nov 00 | Asia-Pacific
Asia's burgeoning Aids epidemic
09 Jun 99 | Middle East
Contaminated blood AIDS trial in Iran
09 Mar 99 | Europe
Acquittals in French blood trial
19 Nov 98 | Europe
Former Portuguese minister indicted over
AIDS scandal
08 Apr 99 | Medical notes
Blood: The risks of infection

OLAADEGBU:


Should we stop eating because some people died from food poisoning?